Obama's "Gun Violence Reduction" Proposals (Read 9278 times)

Colt808

Obama's "Gun Violence Reduction" Proposals
« on: January 16, 2013, 07:50:10 AM »
I'm sure everyone was glued to their TV's this morning. The President signed/initiated 23 Executive Actions today...

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1. Issue a Presidential Memorandum to require federal agencies to make relevantdata available to the federal background check system.

2. Address unnecessary legal barriers, particularly relating to the Health InsurancePortability and Accountability Act, that may prevent states from makinginformation available to the background check system.

3. Improve incentives for states to share information with the background checksystem.

4. Direct the Attorney General to review categories of individuals prohibited fromhaving a gun to make sure dangerous people are not slipping through the cracks.

5. Propose rulemaking to give law enforcement the ability to run a full backgroundcheck on an individual before returning a seized gun.

6. Publish a letter from ATF to federally licensed gun dealers providing guidance onhow to run background checks for private sellers.

7. Launch a national safe and responsible gun ownership campaign.

8. Review safety standards for gun locks and gun safes (Consumer Product SafetyCommission).

9. Issue a Presidential Memorandum to require federal law enforcement to trace gunsrecovered in criminal investigations.

10. Release a DOJ report analyzing information on lost and stolen guns and make itwidely available to law enforcement.

11. Nominate an ATF director.

12. Provide law enforcement, first responders, and school officials with propertraining for active shooter situations.

13. Maximize enforcement efforts to prevent gun violence and prosecute gun crime.

14. Issue a Presidential Memorandum directing the Centers for Disease Control toresearch the causes and prevention of gun violence.

15. Direct the Attorney General to issue a report on the availability and most effectiveuse of new gun safety technologies and challenge the private sector to developinnovative technologies.

16. Clarify that the Affordable Care Act does not prohibit doctors asking their patientsabout guns in their homes.

17. Release a letter to health care providers clarifying that no federal law prohibitsthem from reporting threats of violence to law enforcement authorities.

18. Provide incentives for schools to hire school resource officers.

19. Develop model emergency response plans for schools, houses of worship andinstitutions of higher education.

20. Release a letter to state health officials clarifying the scope of mental healthservices that Medicaid plans must cover.

21. Finalize regulations clarifying essential health benefits and parity requirementswithin ACA exchanges.

22. Commit to finalizing mental health parity regulations.

23. Launch a national dialogue led by Secretaries Sebelius and Duncan on mental health.

Ooh...I feel safer already.  :-\ Seriously though, everyone should read the entire document. Obama's gun violence prevention proposals
« Last Edit: January 16, 2013, 07:55:51 AM by Colt808 »
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Bunker

Re: Obama's "Gun Violence Reduction" Proposals
« Reply #1 on: January 16, 2013, 08:01:45 AM »
I'm sure everyone was glued to their TV's this morning. The President signed/initiated 23 Executive Actions today...

Ooh...I feel safer already.  :-\ Seriously though, everyone should read the entire document. Obama's gun violence prevention proposals

Here is the video.
http://www.washingtonpost.com/politics/obama-900-americans-dead-from-guns-this-past-month/2013/01/16/66ab25f6-6001-11e2-a389-ee565c81c565_video.html

Jl808

Obama's "Gun Violence Reduction" Proposals
« Reply #2 on: January 16, 2013, 08:05:10 AM »
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RKBA

Re: Obama's "Gun Violence Reduction" Proposals
« Reply #3 on: January 16, 2013, 08:07:52 AM »
I'm actually a little relieved. Considering all the talk about what an EO could entail, such as completely stopping the importation of firearms and ammunition via an EO, etc... this isn't too bad. It still totally sucks, but it could have been worse. 

shaggadelic

So has SHTF? with the new 23 Executive what does this mean for us?
« Reply #4 on: January 16, 2013, 08:12:43 AM »
srsly? are our mags doomed? anyone have more detail on this? the press conference was kinda veg at best

shaggy

Pit808

Re: Obama's "Gun Violence Reduction" Proposals
« Reply #5 on: January 16, 2013, 08:19:53 AM »
I'm actually a little relieved. Considering all the talk about what an EO could entail, such as completely stopping the importation of firearms and ammunition via an EO, etc... this isn't too bad. It still totally sucks, but it could have been worse.

+1
chitty chitty bang bang.......

sikryd

Re: So has SHTF? with the new 23 Executive what does this mean for us?
« Reply #6 on: January 16, 2013, 08:28:31 AM »
I believe that by Executive Order, Obama can only enforce existing laws on gun issues.  I was listening to talk radio this morning on the way to work, and it said that AWB / Magazine restrictions need to go through Congress.  I may be wrong, someone will correct me if I am.  Lets hope Congress comes to its senses, and honors the Oath that they took when they entered office.  I have sent a total of 52 letters to  Congress through snail mail, I hope they take my letters to heart.  Please everyone, keep writing them, emailing them, calling them, we can not let our rights be striped from us.

Bunker

Re: Obama's "Gun Violence Reduction" Proposals
« Reply #7 on: January 16, 2013, 08:30:14 AM »
I'm actually a little relieved. Considering all the talk about what an EO could entail, such as completely stopping the importation of firearms and ammunition via an EO, etc... this isn't too bad. It still totally sucks, but it could have been worse.

It's not over...he said comprehensive plan. EOs was just one part. He has called for legislative action as well:

"Congress should take critical steps through new legislation, including: requiring background checks for all gun sales; reinstating the prohibition on high-capacity magazines; renewing and strengthening the ban on assault weapons; and creating serious penalties for gun traffickers who help put guns into the hands of criminals."


Colt808

Re: So has SHTF? with the new 23 Executive what does this mean for us?
« Reply #8 on: January 16, 2013, 08:32:23 AM »
srsly? are our mags doomed? anyone have more detail on this? the press conference was kinda veg at best

shaggy
Already posted...
http://2ahawaii.com/index.php?topic=5894.0
Reason obeys itself; and ignorance submits to whatever is dictated to it. ~Thomas Paine


And I still see stupid people.

Haoleb

Re: So has SHTF? with the new 23 Executive what does this mean for us?
« Reply #9 on: January 16, 2013, 08:32:32 AM »
I dont think SHTF yet, If you look at what the executive orders are specifically its mostly stuff I think the majority of gun owners would agree with. Now, if the crypt keeper gets her way through congress it is another story. The fight is not over yet.

xer 21

Re: So has SHTF? with the new 23 Executive what does this mean for us?
« Reply #10 on: January 16, 2013, 08:34:07 AM »
http://www.thetruthaboutguns.com/2013/01/robert-farago/list-of-obamas-23-executive-orders-on-gun-control/#more-190029

not a single ban or equipment restriction.  there isnt even a natioanl registry.

90% of it is focusing on better enforcing current laws and reviewing current safety standards.  the only one that could be dangerous is allowing the AG to revise what constitues a "dangerous person".

xer 21

Re: Obama's "Gun Violence Reduction" Proposals
« Reply #11 on: January 16, 2013, 08:36:23 AM »
It's not over...he said comprehensive plan. EOs was just one part. He has called for legislative action as well:

"Congress should take critical steps through new legislation, including: requiring background checks for all gun sales; reinstating the prohibition on high-capacity magazines; renewing and strengthening the ban on assault weapons; and creating serious penalties for gun traffickers who help put guns into the hands of criminals."

and then the house laughed.

yes, congress is still an issue and we cant go to sleep on this, but seriously, the house isnt going to vote on a ban.  they have better shit to do anyways.

Colt808

Re: Obama's "Gun Violence Reduction" Proposals
« Reply #12 on: January 16, 2013, 08:46:57 AM »
I'm actually a little relieved. Considering all the talk about what an EO could entail, such as completely stopping the importation of firearms and ammunition via an EO, etc... this isn't too bad. It still totally sucks, but it could have been worse. 
Anyone who is even the slightest bit relieved should read the entire release again carefully.

It's not over...he said comprehensive plan. EOs was just one part. He has called for legislative action as well:

"Congress should take critical steps through new legislation, including: requiring background checks for all gun sales; reinstating the prohibition on high-capacity magazines; renewing and strengthening the ban on assault weapons; and creating serious penalties for gun traffickers who help put guns into the hands of criminals."
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It's just the beginning...The President knows he doesn't have the votes right now, so he's going to work on gaining support in the coming weeks/months. It's seemingly benign for that reason. If support grows, any legislation would extend beyond what was laid out today. Make no mistake these actions are just the "tip of the wedge".
Reason obeys itself; and ignorance submits to whatever is dictated to it. ~Thomas Paine


And I still see stupid people.

DjEROQ

Re: Obama's "Gun Violence Reduction" Proposals
« Reply #13 on: January 16, 2013, 09:02:40 AM »
Can we as a state of Hawaii deny this EO?  There willing to give all this money to add security to our schools when our own teachers are struggling to keep their jobs!  Teachers paychecks have been cut drastically to make budget so they suffer with the financial burden.  This I won't understand if it passes Hawaii law and let the schools faculty still suffer! Everyone i'm sure will agree that the quality of teaching is not like it used to be.  I was just talking to couple old timers last night and they agreed, and send there kids private school cause the public system sucks!  Do we actually need the extra security and expensive equipment that the EO is recommending? I think the problem in Hawaii is the gang violence more than anything in the schools. 

Dblnaknak

Re: Obama's "Gun Violence Reduction" Proposals
« Reply #14 on: January 16, 2013, 09:25:56 AM »
Can we as a state of Hawaii deny this EO?  There willing to give all this money to add security to our schools when our own teachers are struggling to keep their jobs!  Teachers paychecks have been cut drastically to make budget so they suffer with the financial burden.  This I won't understand if it passes Hawaii law and let the schools faculty still suffer! Everyone i'm sure will agree that the quality of teaching is not like it used to be.  I was just talking to couple old timers last night and they agreed, and send there kids private school cause the public system sucks!  Do we actually need the extra security and expensive equipment that the EO is recommending? I think the problem in Hawaii is the gang violence more than anything in the schools.

Gang violence ??? Haha. Have you been to the mainland.? Hawaii does not have "gang violence"! I'm tired about hearing about teachers salaries. They make pretty good money when you break it down. They only work 9 months out of the year. Have you ever taken a look at how much a sheriff gets paid? Most of them could qualify for welfare and they carry a gun everyday. Most them that are assigned to patrol do the same job as HPD and encounter the same risk.  :wtf:

ren

Re: Obama's "Gun Violence Reduction" Proposals
« Reply #15 on: January 16, 2013, 09:30:12 AM »
So at the Federal level it is not as bad as I thought. A mag cap/ban is acceptable over a "AW" ban or worse - an ammo ban. I'm more worried about legislation at the state level after hearing about NY. Our state is as blue as NY and our legislators have always tried to pass some kind of stupid feel-good bill. I remember former HING TAG CDR along with former police Chief Correa, broadcasting on local TV news about the need for a 50 cal ban and handgun ban.
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Dblnaknak

Re: Obama's "Gun Violence Reduction" Proposals
« Reply #16 on: January 16, 2013, 09:37:26 AM »
So at the Federal level it is not as bad as I thought. A mag cap/ban is acceptable over a "AW" ban or worse - an ammo ban. I'm more worried about legislation at the state level after hearing about NY. Our state is as blue as NY and our legislators have always tried to pass some kind of stupid feel-good bill. I remember former HING TAG CDR along with former police Chief Correa, broadcasting on local TV news about the need for a 50 cal ban and handgun ban.

They are pushing for both. A AW ban and magazine ban. They need congressional approval so we might only get 1 of the 2 if any passed. Just hope that here isn't anymore school shootings or its fucked.

RKBA

Re: Obama's "Gun Violence Reduction" Proposals
« Reply #17 on: January 16, 2013, 09:38:25 AM »
Anyone who is even the slightest bit relieved should read the entire release again carefully.

I did read it carefully. I know this isn't over yet, and it's just the beginning. I truly believe that the fight for our 2a rights will never end. But the fact of the matter is there are a lot of things that he could have attempted via an EO that he didn't. So yes, I am relieved.

new guy

Re: Obama's "Gun Violence Reduction" Proposals
« Reply #18 on: January 16, 2013, 10:27:50 AM »
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xer 21

Re: Obama's "Gun Violence Reduction" Proposals
« Reply #19 on: January 16, 2013, 11:23:12 AM »
They are pushing for both. A AW ban and magazine ban. They need congressional approval so we might only get 1 of the 2 if any passed. Just hope that here isn't anymore school shootings or its fucked.
are they really?  Because so far the only peep I've seen from the state is schatz, and he's only voting on senate bills that will die in the house.