Armed Civilian Engages a Murderer with Long Gun in Idaho Today (Read 521 times)

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« Last Edit: August 02, 2026, 07:21:33 AM by Kalihi Uka »
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Yah - ova hea we just use whateva kine to stab-em at Manoa Marketplace.

No need one gun for shop go music lessons, brah.

... and here's the money quote for all the A$$HOLES on HIFICO's fakebook page, who still say "Why do you need a gun to go shopping?"

“Never in our wildest dreams did we imagine the shopping center would turn out like this”

https://www.staradvertiser.com/2025/02/21/breaking-news/manoa-music-school-owner-allegedly-attacked-inside-his-business/


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Re: Armed Civilian Engages a Murderer with Long Gun in Idaho Today
« Reply #4 on: August 02, 2026, 07:35:42 AM »
Anyhoo, back to the topic itself.

What's that he's go there?  Looks like it has a can on it.  Kinda hard to carry, even open.  For sure some of you guys must know this one.

Anyway, the circumstance points out that accuracy at distance is absolutely essential, but more likely, in practice, swiftness of draw as you move defensively against an assailant at arms length with a knife, etc. is the skill set to master.

This is what makes firearm training so damn interesting and engaging - as much or more so than any formal martial art.

I posted this in Strategy & Tactics so that I might learn something from you guys.
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Re: Armed Civilian Engages a Murderer with Long Gun in Idaho Today
« Reply #7 on: August 02, 2026, 09:34:38 AM »
We now interrupt this thread to cut to Hawaii Supreme Court Justice Todd Eddins, to get his comments on this breaking story:

“The history of the Hawaiian Islands does not include a society where armed people move about the community to possibly combat the deadly aims of others.”

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« Reply #8 on: August 02, 2026, 10:18:03 AM »
Kinda funny how it's very difficult to find videos of Jordan on youtube.
Almost like the techbros and news media are horrible people who want us disarmed and helpless.

The videos on social media show why it's good to practice shooting and moving, because apparently he took one in the chest.
There's a gap between the first and second volley where a quick reposition might have prevented the psycho from lining him up in the sights.

Also the 5.7 has higher velocity and can tumble in theory, but 9mm consistently makes a bigger wound channel and disrupts more tissue.
The difference in seconds it takes for the psycho to become incapacitated must feel like an eternity.

Admirable work though. He saved lives and it sounds like he will make it home. Most other folks were too busy messing with their phones.
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« Reply #9 on: August 02, 2026, 10:30:06 AM »
Kinda funny how it's very difficult to find videos of Jordan on youtube.
Almost like the techbros and news media are horrible people who want us disarmed and helpless.

The videos on social media show why it's good to practice shooting and moving, because apparently he took one in the chest.
There's a gap between the first and second volley where a quick reposition might have prevented the psycho from lining him up in the sights.

Also the 5.7 has higher velocity and can tumble in theory, but 9mm consistently makes a bigger wound channel and disrupts more tissue.
The difference in seconds it takes for the psycho to become incapacitated must feel like an eternity.

Admirable work though. He saved lives and it sounds like he will make it home. Most other folks were too busy messing with their phones.
For sure!

Also the ability to shoot around barriers / cover, like walls, etc. (if at all feasible) single handed (strong or weak), thus providing minimal target for return fire.

Single handed fire is important.  The standard double handed grip roots you to the spot, at least mentally, and provides the maximum target area for return fire.

Not a criticism in any way - just something I've long believed (but not trained nearly enough!!!).
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« Reply #10 on: August 02, 2026, 10:49:57 AM »
What was the motive of the gunman and his beef with the new InNOut restaurant?

Because this place originated in California?

I know Idahoans are pretty hostile to newcomers from blue states.
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« Reply #11 on: August 02, 2026, 11:54:13 AM »
Anyway, the circumstance points out that accuracy at distance is absolutely essential, but more likely, in practice, swiftness of draw as you move defensively against an assailant at arms length with a knife, etc. is the skill set to master.

Most response to active shooter with a rifle in open areas take place at far distances, typically 25 to 50 yards.  Active shootes aren't coming up close to one person in secret like in most crimes that occur within 7 yards.

Easy way to practice for this is at Koko Head Silhouette range at 50 yards.  Start from the low or compressed ready, then come up on target and take a shot at the large steel plate.   A slow and even trigger press is key.  Start off taking about 2 seconds to press the trigger.  Then slowly speed your way up to a quarter second press when you can get the majority of hits on steel.  Once you can reliably hit the plate, then do multiple shots slowly and work your way faster till you're at 1 second per shot and can get most of your shots on steel.
You have to know your limits and limits of your carry gun.  Small guns like snub nose revolvers and Glock 43s would max out at about 25 yards with a lot of practice.

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Re: Armed Civilian Engages a Murderer with Long Gun in Idaho Today
« Reply #12 on: August 02, 2026, 12:07:16 PM »
What was the motive of the gunman and his beef with the new InNOut restaurant?

Because this place originated in California?

I know Idahoans are pretty hostile to newcomers from blue states.
No known motive - except it appears that it was planned.  The 24 year old maggot pulled into the drive through, parked, and immediately went about shooting anyone he saw.

They never saw it coming.

My wife used to give me a hard time when I drive her for short trips with my fanny pack across my chest with my .357 in it (real short - I'm not getting out of the truck, etc.).

She did this until I told her that "the sun has never risen on a day on this planet that a man should leave home unarmed".

That was how it was where I was born.  I was lucky to have been born there.
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« Reply #13 on: August 02, 2026, 12:07:59 PM »
The videos on social media show why it's good to practice shooting and moving, because apparently he took one in the chest.
There's a gap between the first and second volley where a quick reposition might have prevented the psycho from lining him up in the sights.

For this scenario, a defender with a pistol moving in the open at distance against a rifle, doesn't do much to win.  They're always going to be at a disadvantage.  It does eat up time for other people to run away.

Cover and concealment is what matters.

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« Reply #14 on: August 02, 2026, 12:20:50 PM »
Anyway, the circumstance points out that accuracy at distance is absolutely essential, but more likely, in practice, swiftness of draw as you move defensively against an assailant at arms length with a knife, etc. is the skill set to master.

Most response to active shooter with a rifle in open areas take place at far distances, typically 25 to 50 yards.  Active shootes aren't coming up close to one person in secret like in most crimes that occur within 7 yards.

Easy way to practice for this is at Koko Head Silhouette range at 50 yards.  Start from the low or compressed ready, then come up on target and take a shot at the large steel plate.   A slow and even trigger press is key.  Start off taking about 2 seconds to press the trigger.  Then slowly speed your way up to a quarter second press when you can get the majority of hits on steel.  Once you can reliably hit the plate, then do multiple shots slowly and work your way faster till you're at 1 second per shot and can get most of your shots on steel.
You have to know your limits and limits of your carry gun.  Small guns like snub nose revolvers and Glock 43s would max out at about 25 yards with a lot of practice.

Thanks - All true, but what I was getting at is that you are far more likely (i.e. much higher probability) to be assaulted bodily at hand-to-hand combat range.

- in the worst case with an edged weapon, and / or multiple assailants.

This requires a different skill set, which includes proper body movement - the ability to strike / deflect blows - to create space to draw a weapon.

Active shooter situations, by comparison, are extremely rare.

That is what I meant by "more likely, in practice."
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« Reply #15 on: August 02, 2026, 12:37:15 PM »
saw a video where the shooter was less than 2 car lengths away from a couple in a car and the man kept his camera up and was filming the shooter while the female was trying to get him to stay down...

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« Reply #16 on: August 02, 2026, 12:55:09 PM »
saw a video where the shooter was less than 2 car lengths away from a couple in a car and the man kept his camera up and was filming the shooter while the female was trying to get him to stay down...
Yes, saw that too.  It's harrowing - unless they were also well armed - after all, it is Idaho.

All kidding aside - absolutely harrowing.
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« Reply #17 on: August 02, 2026, 08:04:56 PM »
It's now confirmed - it was a dude named Jordan Salinas who returned fire - quite a guy!

He's on the left, alongside his disabled brother.



Full story with his comments below.

A true American!

https://www.dailymail.com/news/article-16023511/twin-falls-idaho-n-shooter-identified-drive-thru.html
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Below is a link to the YouTube video released today by the Twin Fall police dept.

It is surveillance video of pretty much the whole thing - and is a must watch.

This was a fiend - a cold-blooded murder.

Until you watch this, you know maybe 1% of what actually took place.

Without the active armed resistance three individuals (yes three), there's pretty much no limit (except for ammo) to how many innocents he would have murdered.

At one point he was even running around firing into cars stuck at a traffic light, wounding some more.

THIS IS WHAT THE "NO GUNS" MONSTERS WE HAVE HERE WANT FOR YOU AND YOUR FAMILY.

https://www.yahoo.com/news/videos/video-shows-twin-falls-gunman-200008298.html
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Below is a link to the YouTube video released today by the Twin Fall police dept.

It is surveillance video of pretty much the whole thing - and is a must watch.

This was a fiend - a cold-blooded murder.

Until you watch this, you know maybe 1% of what actually took place.

Without the active armed resistance three individuals (yes three), there's pretty much no limit (except for ammo) to how many innocents he would have murdered.

At one point he was even running around firing into cars stuck at a traffic light, wounding some more.

THIS IS WHAT THE "NO GUNS" MONSTERS WE HAVE HERE WANT FOR YOU AND YOUR FAMILY.

https://www.yahoo.com/news/videos/video-shows-twin-falls-gunman-200008298.html


Thanks for sharing this.  That employee that engaged with him must have been shittin his pants but was very courageous.

Amazing that he lasted that long, being it Idaho of all places.
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