2013 SB69: Gun buy-back program (Read 69762 times)

Hunter1007

Re: 2013 SB69: Gun buy-back program
« Reply #40 on: February 27, 2013, 04:59:14 PM »
Well guys when they actually have these buy backs I say we stand on the side walk and do our own buy back program. So they are gonna offer what $100 safeway gift cards for every gun? I'll offer $150 cash. I'll do my part. Keeping guns off the street by putting them in my safe :thumbsup:

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Re: 2013 SB69: Gun buy-back program
« Reply #41 on: February 27, 2013, 07:00:54 PM »
Its not the buyback you need to be concerned with.  apparently they added a whole bunch of additions to the registration process as part of this bill.

Any way to get a copy of the bill AS PASSED by committee?

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Re: 2013 SB69: Gun buy-back program
« Reply #42 on: February 28, 2013, 04:43:18 AM »
If you click on the link to go to the state website, on the right hand side of the page there is a list of all the versions of the bill. I believe this is the one you are talking about.
http://www.capitol.hawaii.gov/session2013/CommReports/SB69_SD1_SSCR334_.HTM

ETA: That looks like the comittee notes, not the actual bill. They may not have an actual revised version yet.
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Re: 2013 SB69: Gun buy-back program
« Reply #43 on: February 28, 2013, 06:21:33 AM »
These lawmakers are so freakin dumb. Why, if you know you are not allowed to own, would you register an out of state anyway?  Why would you now go through the extra BS to register when this shit passes.  All this will do is cause a larger backlog and burden on the PD with absulutly no impact on gun crime.  What a waste of freakin time and money!

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Re: 2013 SB69: Gun buy-back program
« Reply #44 on: February 28, 2013, 07:45:31 AM »
Yes heavies you are correct. Requiring out of state back ground check will do nothing for crime. Because criminals will not even bother going down. Why would they when they already have the gun and it is not on hawaii states registration. Smh at this idiotic abortion of legislation with all the changes they made to this bill and despite all the testimony against it, the lawmakers still approve it

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Re: 2013 SB69: Gun buy-back program
« Reply #45 on: February 28, 2013, 08:19:36 AM »
Hi all -- I received this email from HRA today..  Just wanted to pass this along

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HRA Leg Report, 2/28/2013

The Senate Ways And Means money committee (WAM) gave decision and took a vote to pass SB69, SD1, which started out as a gun buyback bill, but ended up stuffed with other issues by Sen.Will Espero’s Public Safety Committee.  We haven’t seen the actual Senate Draft 2 (SD2) yet, but Chair David Ige announced his recommendations, removing reference to gun buybacks, mental health background checks, and police gun safety programs from the bill.  The $200,000 earmarked appropriation for these is deleted, but a blank line for an appropriation to the county police was left in the bill for further discussion.  The bill will authorize the county police to do NICS (National Instant Checks System) checks (supported by HRA) on firearms owners who are already required to register firearms they bring in from out of state, and collect the FBI fee for fingerprints if the registrant has none on file.  The 3-day window to register guns brought in is increased to 5 days, compatible with the registration requirement for guns acquired in state, and allowing for 3-day weekends.  Sen. Sam Slom voted “no” as did WAM Vice-Chair, Senator Michelle Kidani, who said the counties should fund their own county police programs. Sen. Suzanne Chun Oakland expressed her concern about the Chair’s recommendation to extend the registration window.    Go to:

http://www.capitol.hawaii.gov/measure_indiv.aspx?billtype=SB&billnumber=69&year=2013

in a few days, when the clerks catch up, for the actual SD2 language crossing over to the House where the whole process repeats.

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The Legislature is at its half-way point March 7, 2013.  The worst gun bills are already dead for the year.  A big mahalo to all you activists who support our gun rights during this difficult legislative session.  Don’t let up before it’s over, May 2!

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Re: 2013 SB69: Gun buy-back program
« Reply #46 on: February 28, 2013, 12:59:48 PM »
Last night I publicly thanked Senator Kidani (Vice Chair of WAM) for voting NO on this bill in her committee. I mentioned that numerous testimony had been submitted in opposition along with mine and any new appropriations should be directed elsewhere especially to our ailing educational system. She expressed her concern that the bill was too broad and didn't feel the need for appropriation to come from the state but from the counties instead. We still would need to monitor this as it crosses over to the House as it begins again... :shaka:

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Re: 2013 SB69: Gun buy-back program
« Reply #47 on: February 28, 2013, 06:15:26 PM »
Well I do kind of like that they took the idea I gave them on extending the registration deadline to five days.
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3/2/13 SB69: 48 Hrs. Notice 03-05-13.
« Reply #49 on: March 02, 2013, 02:00:55 AM »
3/2/13 SB69: 48 Hrs. Notice 03-05-13.
2 March 2013, 3:00 am

3/2/13 SB69: Senate Status Update

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3/1/13 SB69: 48 Hrs. Notice 03-05-13.
« Reply #50 on: March 05, 2013, 01:00:07 PM »
3/1/13 SB69: 48 Hrs. Notice 03-05-13.
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Re: 2013 SB69: Gun buy-back program
« Reply #52 on: March 05, 2013, 01:45:30 PM »
Way better than it was.

No more police safety course or buyback program. Now its just a background check to register out of state firearms and extending the time limit to 5 days from 3.

And the act takes effect July, 2050 "to encourage further conversation."

I think they mean because they don't want to make any real decisions.

macsak

Re: 2013 SB69: Gun buy-back program
« Reply #53 on: March 05, 2013, 03:18:53 PM »
need to oppose
if this thing makes it to conference committee, all the anti language goes back in, and we cannot testify against or do anything
it must be stopped NOW
that's all this is, a trojan horse
we are screwed once this thing hits crossover

Way better than it was.

No more police safety course or buyback program. Now its just a background check to register out of state firearms and extending the time limit to 5 days from 3.

And the act takes effect July, 2050 "to encourage further conversation."

I think they mean because they don't want to make any real decisions.

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Re: 2013 SB69: Gun buy-back program
« Reply #54 on: March 05, 2013, 03:20:29 PM »
Was the hearing today?

And i agree Mac, thats the same thing that happened the first time.  Passed then a whole bunch of shit got added.  Everyone said something, they cut the bullshit.  Maybe they are just testing the waters more to see who is watching.  Wouldnt doubt the same thing would happen again during cross over.


need to oppose
if this thing makes it to conference committee, all the anti language goes back in, and we cannot testify against or do anything
it must be stopped NOW
that's all this is, a trojan horse
we are screwed once this thing hits crossover

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Re: 2013 SB69: Gun buy-back program
« Reply #56 on: March 05, 2013, 07:02:34 PM »
in conference committee, anything goes, no public input
if not killed now, they can add anything

actually, you could take a bill about preschools and change it into an AWB

Was the hearing today?

And i agree Mac, thats the same thing that happened the first time.  Passed then a whole bunch of shit got added.  Everyone said something, they cut the bullshit.  Maybe they are just testing the waters more to see who is watching.  Wouldnt doubt the same thing would happen again during cross over.

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3/7/13 SB69: Referred to PBS, JUD, FIN, referral sheet 30
« Reply #57 on: March 07, 2013, 02:00:32 PM »
3/7/13 SB69: Referred to PBS, JUD, FIN, referral sheet 30
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3/7/13 SB69: Pass First Reading
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3/7/13 SB69: Pass First Reading
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