2013 SB69: Gun buy-back program (Read 69768 times)

Heavies

Re: 2013 SB69: Gun buy-back program
« Reply #80 on: March 20, 2013, 04:09:31 AM »
Rhoads needs to get voted out of office :grrr:
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Heavies

Re: 2013 SB69: Gun buy-back program
« Reply #81 on: March 20, 2013, 04:13:50 AM »
I am not understanding why the HRA and the NRA are in disagreement with this bill.  Also, I am not understanding why the HRA is in disagreement with most of us here.  This confusion is causing the antis to feel that they will be able to push this through, and encourage them to come up with other ways to piss on our rights.  I still oppose and I hope that the HRA will change course on this....    thoughts?

ren

Re: 2013 SB69: Gun buy-back program
« Reply #82 on: March 20, 2013, 05:38:38 AM »
Here is a response from HRA in an email to one of our club members

This NRA/ILA Alert contains some inaccuracies.  SB69HD1 is not a "gun registration" bill.  If it is killed, persons bringing in firearms from out of state will still be required to physically present themselves and their firearms at the county police HQ's to register them per existing statute. 

The line at HPD is now down to 1.5 hours.  By the time this bill would take effect, June, 2013, it will probably be back to the usual 45min, not "one to two days."

There is no mention in this alert that the 3-day window for out of state registration is extended to 5 days by this bill, allowing for three day weekends.

HRA is working with Honolulu City Council and Mayor Caldwell to see if appropriations from this bill can be used to open registration and permits in Kapolei, and establish Sat. hours.

This bill would require the PD's to do NICS checks on persons bringing firearms into the state, something they are already doing because FBI tells them they must.  They do not need statutory authorization to do so.  Any LE entity and FFL's can request a NICS background check and act on the information.  It would authorize the PD's to collect the once-in-a-lifetime floating FBI fee, currently $16.50, as permitted under existing statute for in-state acquisitions.

NRA used to support instant checks.  HRA still does.  Criminals do apply for permits and arrests are made.   I feel NRA has over-reacted to this bill.  The Senate took all the "onerous" language and requirements out of it before it crossed to the House.  HRA supports the current draft.   I'll be testifying for HRA in support today.  This is the first Hawaii Legislative session for our new NRA/ILA Rep in Sacramento.  He's a fine young attorney who took over the job 3 mos. ago.  He's caught up in the current NRA effort to keep Hawaii type statutes from passing nationally.  Unfortunately this disagreement is confusing our supporters, encouraging our opponents, and interfering with our long term HRA goals of improving the Hawaii statutes.  Fence-sitting legislators are raising eyebrows. 

If the bill passes JUD today, it will have a House WAM hearing and then Conference Committees.  I would consider it personal favor if you would consider HRA's position on the bill.  We are the boots on the ground here.

Very respectfully,

Max
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Bunker

Re: 2013 SB69: Gun buy-back program
« Reply #83 on: March 21, 2013, 07:39:32 PM »
I am not understanding why the HRA and the NRA are in disagreement with this bill.  Also, I am not understanding why the HRA is in disagreement with most of us here.  This confusion is causing the antis to feel that they will be able to push this through, and encourage them to come up with other ways to piss on our rights.  I still oppose and I hope that the HRA will change course on this....    thoughts?
Nothing has changed my mind. Any bill that infringes on our 2a rights is a non starter for me. I still oppose. None of these new bills do anything to reduce restrictions already imposed on Hawaii gun owners, and we have some of the strictest in the nation already.

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Re: 2013 SB69: Gun buy-back program
« Reply #85 on: March 22, 2013, 09:03:32 AM »
Seems no matter how much opposition this crap has, they still pass it.  Sick

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Re: 2013 SB69: Gun buy-back program
« Reply #87 on: March 22, 2013, 05:42:44 PM »
How does it go forward with 4 people voting no and 4 people excused?

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Re: 2013 SB69: Gun buy-back program
« Reply #89 on: March 26, 2013, 10:50:21 AM »
I am not understanding why the HRA and the NRA are in disagreement with this bill.  Also, I am not understanding why the HRA is in disagreement with most of us here.  This confusion is causing the antis to feel that they will be able to push this through, and encourage them to come up with other ways to piss on our rights.  I still oppose and I hope that the HRA will change course on this....    thoughts?

I agree with Bunker.

Give a little here, give a little there, before you know it you gave a lot.

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Re: 2013 SB69: Gun buy-back program
« Reply #92 on: April 04, 2013, 03:57:02 AM »
Sailing through, no matter what the opposing constituents have to say.  Well, boot them all next election! 

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4/5/13 SB69: Received from House (Hse. Com. No. 432).
« Reply #94 on: April 04, 2013, 09:00:06 PM »
4/5/13 SB69: Received from House (Hse. Com. No. 432).
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4/5/13 SB69: Deferred until 04-09-13.
« Reply #95 on: April 05, 2013, 05:00:05 PM »
4/5/13 SB69: Deferred until 04-09-13.
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4/9/13 SB69: Deferred until 04-11-13.
« Reply #96 on: April 09, 2013, 12:00:12 PM »
4/9/13 SB69: Deferred until 04-11-13.
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Re: 2013 SB69: Gun buy-back program
« Reply #97 on: April 09, 2013, 12:06:00 PM »
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4/11/13 SB69: Senate disagrees with House amendments.
« Reply #98 on: April 11, 2013, 02:00:04 PM »
4/11/13 SB69: Senate disagrees with House amendments.
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Re: 4/11/13 SB69: Senate disagrees with House amendments.
« Reply #99 on: April 11, 2013, 02:41:31 PM »
ouch
this one is going to get hashed out in conference committee
anything goes
could even morph into awb
can't imagine they would try that, but it is possible

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