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Hearing set on

Comm   Room   Date/Time
JUD           325     2/26/2013 2:05 PM

SUPPORT!!!!

Testimony submitted.

Come on guys and gals. SUBMIT THAT TESTIMONY !  Even if you can't be at the hearing.

http://www.capitol.hawaii.gov/measure_indiv.aspx?billtype=HB&billnumber=603&year=2013

 

submitted 

Done! 

Submitted!  Anyone gonna show up?

Is that like castle doctrine?

What are you guys saying in your testimony?

Is that like castle doctrine?

What are you guys saying in your testimony?

Mine was a simple two sentence, and went somewhere along the lines of:

I support this bill and I believe it will reduce crime.  Criminals would be more apt to think twice of invading a home if they feel they may be harmed.

Wait... we were supposed to support this? 
Guys!  You need to include that information when you put out the call!  I just assume everything bill-related falls in the "oppose" category!!








Nah, I went and read the bill and made up my own mind.  But as i was in the process of that, it did occur to me to wonder if anyone would have that knee-jerk reaction.

Wait... we were supposed to support this? 
Guys!  You need to include that information when you put out the call!  I just assume everything bill-related falls in the "oppose" category!!








Nah, I went and read the bill and made up my own mind.  But as i was in the process of that, it did occur to me to wonder if anyone would have that knee-jerk reaction.

^True...we should specify when posting.

maybe he can edit the title and put a  or thumbs up or something.

I might be able to make it down for this hearing.  doesnt the recess come up soon for these guys?

Relevant in the sense that if if the King could not enter, neither should any intruder of lesser nobility be able to.

Quote from William Pitt, 1st Earl of Chatham, 17 Dec 1762, in a speech to Parliament:

The poorest man may in his cottage bid defiance to all the forces of the Crown. It may be frail — its roof may shake — the wind may blow through it — the storm may enter — the rain may enter — but the King of England cannot enter — all his force dares not cross the threshold of the ruined tenement.

IMAGE FROM WIKI

http://en.wikiquote.org/wiki/File:Elderpitt.jpg

Supported!!!

testimony submitted and link forwarded

Support and shared!  Would be good to not have to worry so much when these crackheads try and bust into your house.  As long as they dont take your means to resolve the problem. 

IMO if someone is in my house I should be allowed to do whatever is needed to remove them from said house..and not need to worry about prison/fines and whatever else comes along with something like that.

Done!

Done baby... Done!!!

Done. Gladly.

Here's the testimony I put together. I like to write out the testimony and attach it as a .doc. That way its a little more than just [OPPOSE] or [SUPPORT] in the testimony list. Might get read by the folks who should be reading it.

"Aloha,

I am writing to voice my support for HB 603.

Hawaii has a good balance of laws that make it difficult for potentially dangerous people to legally acquire firearms. This bill closes a hole that our current laws leave open: the unpleasant fact that criminals know they have the legal upper hand should a victim chose to defend themselves with a firearm – the most effective defense and deterrent.

As the law currently stands a single mother, for example, could be sued by a would-be rapist if she used a gun, even if she doesn't shoot the intruder, to keep him from raping her. Since the violent felony did not occur the mother is in the extremely unfortunate position of being held liable for use of deadly force due to the success of her self defense.

No one wants to shoot an intruder. What we want is for the intrusion to never happen in the first place. Removing the ambiguity around whether a home owner is protected from civil liability when using a firearm for defense in their own home will have the effect of reducing home break ins and related violent crime because such crimes will become orders of magnitude more dangerous for the criminals.

For this reason I strongly support this bill and urge you to do the same.

Mahalo for your time and service,"

Submitted again thru our business.... Self Defense Solutions Hawaii...

Submitted...."Aloha, I would like to voice my support for HB603. I believe that while we enjoy a largely idyllic life here in hawaii I believe that it is only a matter of time before we start to see crime patterns that mirror major cities on thr mainland. I hope this doesn't happen for many years, or even decades, we as good citizens deserve the right to defend ourselves and our families. Some might argue that this is what the police are for - to protect us from crime. I would argue that the police can't be there to stop every crime from happening. As law abiding citizens without the ability to defend ourselves in our own homes, and with the threat of liability hanging over our heads we are merely sheep hoping the wolf picks another hapless sheep. I would like to thank you for your time and hope that you will all vote to support this bill."