Target Frames for Koko Head (Read 29157 times)

mishka

Target Frames for Koko Head
« on: October 04, 2010, 03:32:49 PM »
If anyone needs to build a pistol frame I have the specifications for a good solid frame with collapsible legs.  I just built one and intend to build a few more just to have spares.  The specs on Koko Head's website are for a non-collapsible which is a pain in the butt to transport!

I also have specs to build a 100% collapsible frame that takes seconds to set up.  Though it is not as sturdy as the others, it works and you could strap it on a bicycle if you needed to (though I don't know how you would transport the backing (cardboard) lol.   I just keep that one in my trunk at all times just in case I forget the good frame.

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Re: Target Frames for Koko Head
« Reply #1 on: October 04, 2010, 04:04:55 PM »
Mishka, if you'd be willing to share for everyone, you can just attach it to a post. If not, I'd appreciate the plans :shaka:
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Re: Target Frames for Koko Head
« Reply #2 on: October 04, 2010, 08:47:37 PM »
If anyone needs to build a pistol frame I have the specifications for a good solid frame with collapsible legs.  I just built one and intend to build a few more just to have spares.  The specs on Koko Head's website are for a non-collapsible which is a pain in the butt to transport!

I also have specs to build a 100% collapsible frame that takes seconds to set up.  Though it is not as sturdy as the others, it works and you could strap it on a bicycle if you needed to (though I don't know how you would transport the backing (cardboard) lol.   I just keep that one in my trunk at all times just in case I forget the good frame.


That would be great. I have a pickup truck so transporting it is no problem but now the frame never leaves the truck bed! Would be nice to have a collapsible one so I can take it out of the truck from time to time and store it neatly at my shop.


As for the cardboard/bicycle dilemma, you could always cut a slit in the middle going halfway down and crease it so it folds neatly into quarters, roughly 1' x 1'. Not sure how sturdy it would be, though  ;D
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Re: Target Frames for Koko Head
« Reply #3 on: October 05, 2010, 03:54:12 PM »
If anyone needs to build a pistol frame I have the specifications for a good solid frame with collapsible legs.  I just built one and intend to build a few more just to have spares.  The specs on Koko Head's website are for a non-collapsible which is a pain in the butt to transport!

I also have specs to build a 100% collapsible frame that takes seconds to set up.  Though it is not as sturdy as the others, it works and you could strap it on a bicycle if you needed to (though I don't know how you would transport the backing (cardboard) lol.   I just keep that one in my trunk at all times just in case I forget the good frame.


That would be great. I have a pickup truck so transporting it is no problem but now the frame never leaves the truck bed! Would be nice to have a collapsible one so I can take it out of the truck from time to time and store it neatly at my shop.


As for the cardboard/bicycle dilemma, you could always cut a slit in the middle going halfway down and crease it so it folds neatly into quarters, roughly 1' x 1'. Not sure how sturdy it would be, though  ;D

lol yeah, the thing I always forget though..  not like you can transport your pistol on your bike anyhow!

I will get on it this week.  Jeez I wish my camera were still working, making an instructional video would be 10X easier.  I can be pretty detailed with things, but I'm no carpenter, so  I'll just draw and scan some rough sketches.. or I can take crappy phone pics to illustrate.  That's probably better.

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Re: Target Frames for Koko Head
« Reply #4 on: October 05, 2010, 04:02:26 PM »
If anyone needs to build a pistol frame I have the specifications for a good solid frame with collapsible legs.  I just built one and intend to build a few more just to have spares.  The specs on Koko Head's website are for a non-collapsible which is a pain in the butt to transport!

I also have specs to build a 100% collapsible frame that takes seconds to set up.  Though it is not as sturdy as the others, it works and you could strap it on a bicycle if you needed to (though I don't know how you would transport the backing (cardboard) lol.   I just keep that one in my trunk at all times just in case I forget the good frame.

I'd be interested in seeing both of these as well.  I built the standard kokohead spec'd frames but now I'm wishing I had taken a little more time to engineer something more portable.  Ah well, next time I bring new shooters out with me and my frames get shot to splinters I'll have something new to build.  :D
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Re: Target Frames for Koko Head
« Reply #5 on: October 05, 2010, 09:24:46 PM »
I'd be interested in seeing both of these as well.  I built the standard kokohead spec'd frames but now I'm wishing I had taken a little more time to engineer something more portable.  Ah well, next time I bring new shooters out with me and my frames get shot to splinters I'll have something new to build.  :D

Just let me have a go at it. You'll be building a new one before the mag is empty  :wacko: LOL.
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Re: Target Frames for Koko Head
« Reply #6 on: October 06, 2010, 09:27:13 AM »
I buy 8' lengths of 1" x 2" at City Mill.  They give you one free cut, so I have them cut to the width of whichever range (14" for rifle, 24.75" for pistol) and then I just use 2" C-clamps to assemble.  The cardboard gets pinched where the 4 C-clamps are holding, between the uprights and the crosspieces.  For disassembly and storage, I just clamp all the lumber together.

Maybe we should split this discussion off from the October match thread?

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Re: Target Frames for Koko Head
« Reply #7 on: October 06, 2010, 09:58:12 AM »
Great Idea Tom!
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Re: Target Frames for Koko Head
« Reply #8 on: October 06, 2010, 11:21:20 AM »
I remember building mine a while ago. I'm mathematically stupid and can NEVER get measurements right. So when it called for pieces to fit like a puzzle, I said screw it and used brackets to attach the legs to the body. I was thinking of building  one with bolts and wing nuts so I can take it down and fit better in cars. I'd lov e to see what you guys did for take down frames.

I like to use wood instead of cardboard for the middle part to staple targets to as it feels more stable. It's freaking windy out there.

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Re: Target Frames for Koko Head
« Reply #9 on: October 06, 2010, 01:08:33 PM »
When I built my first pistol frame, I cut, coped, and made the pieces fit perfectly. I used wing nuts and longer bolts so I could remove the backer and loosen the bolts to fold the frame into one compact piece. It was fancy to say the least.
My brother and I then proceeded to shoot holes through the wood destroying it utterly.  ::)
Now I just use a cheap H frame type. Still folds flat but is easily replaceable without any fancy cuts.
I had forgot my usual frame and went and purchased that one from WGS. Hehe. So simple, yet effective. Man I over engineer stuff.  Just goes to show. Never point your gun at anything you don't intend to destroy! ;D

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Re: Target Frames for Koko Head
« Reply #10 on: October 06, 2010, 01:12:19 PM »
I buy 8' lengths of 1" x 2" at City Mill.  They give you one free cut, so I have them cut to the width of whichever range (14" for rifle, 24.75" for pistol) and then I just use 2" C-clamps to assemble.  The cardboard gets pinched where the 4 C-clamps are holding, between the uprights and the crosspieces.  For disassembly and storage, I just clamp all the lumber together.

Maybe we should split this discussion off from the October match thread?



Home Depot does multiple cuts for free, or the guy who cut my wood did anyway.  :P I also use 1"x2" wood for my rifle frames and just brace it in the ground with pieces from other peoples' shot up frames.
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mishka

Re: Target Frames for Koko Head
« Reply #11 on: October 07, 2010, 09:42:53 AM »
Sorry I haven't had time to get the info together guys, I'd really like to include pics or diagrams.  I am not great at creating instructions for this sort of thing.

It's funny how everyone has their different approach for this.  My first pistol frame I got from my uncle.  I put 7+ holes in it the first day!  .357 Magnum JHP holes muahahaha!!   Hey, he is the one who gave me the ammo.  And to shoot from a 2.75" barrel?  What should he expect?  Miraculously,  with some duct tape it still stands.  But I just got tired of trying to fit into my backseat.  Well, I don't put holes in frames anymore, so having a semi-fancy folding frame works well for me.

I will try to get the info up by next week whether my new camera comes in or not.

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Re: Target Frames for Koko Head
« Reply #12 on: October 17, 2010, 03:38:50 PM »

Home Depot does multiple cuts for free, or the guy who cut my wood did anyway.  :P I also use 1"x2" wood for my rifle frames and just brace it in the ground with pieces from other peoples' shot up frames.

Yeah they do, I had them make like 20 cuts for this shelf I was building for my computer desk. The guy cut one sheet of wood into all the sizes of the piece I need.
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Re: Target Frames for Koko Head
« Reply #13 on: August 29, 2011, 12:46:01 AM »
I'm looking to build my brother in law a frame for his birthday.  Any word on the collapsible frame diagrams?
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Re: Target Frames for Koko Head
« Reply #14 on: August 29, 2011, 12:50:04 AM »
I'm looking to build my brother in law a frame for his birthday.  Any word on the collapsible frame diagrams?

I built my own frame. Use 2.5" x 1/4" bolts and washers with wing nuts. Loosen the nuts a little bit, and the whole thing folds up.
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Re: Target Frames for Koko Head
« Reply #15 on: March 22, 2013, 04:22:34 PM »
This is an old thread but anyone willing to share build instructions? I seen some different frames that people use over at the pistol side.

I wanted to build one that is collapsible and easily transported. Someone please share some build plans. Detailed info with pictures would be awesome!

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Re: Target Frames for Koko Head
« Reply #16 on: March 22, 2013, 10:59:20 PM »
Build the frame to the specs on the KHSC website, then use bolts and wing nuts to assemble. Voilà, collapsible frame.

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Re: Target Frames for Koko Head
« Reply #17 on: March 22, 2013, 11:04:15 PM »
exactly

or i used 1 X 2 s and cut the legs in half and put another set of wing nuts
so that the legs are shorter when folded
especially useful on the pistol stand

Build the frame to the specs on the KHSC website, then use bolts and wing nuts to assemble. Voilà, collapsible frame.

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Re: Target Frames for Koko Head
« Reply #18 on: March 23, 2013, 07:38:49 AM »
Thats it? I seriously thought there was more to it than that. Mahalo for the replies. Aloha.

macsak

Re: Target Frames for Koko Head
« Reply #19 on: March 23, 2013, 09:24:49 AM »
i put 2 wing nuts in each leg half
you can take one off and loosen the other and fold them
or you can take both off and remove the whole lower piece

it kind oof depends on whether the width or the length is a problem
usually i leave them full length if i am going by myself, and recline the front seat and lie them flat
or squeeze them into the rear seat behind the front seats
i  just did the leg thing for if i wanted to keep them in my trunk at all times

Thats it? I seriously thought there was more to it than that. Mahalo for the replies. Aloha.