Are there any prepared/survivalist "groups" in Hawaii? Or is it here on the boards. Sort of loosely floating around in this section? 

Don't get me wrong....a number of independents sharing one common board to help each other with our common goal is better than being completely alone. Just asking 

Please send 5 references, mental evaluation, health evaluation, skills not related to firearms, height, weight, bmi, eye color, hair color, high school diploma, place of birth, year of birth, IQ number, type of vehicle you drive, driver abstract record, 2 silver pieces, and a minah bird in one papaya tree...

Just joking around.  I think there is a website dedicated to bringing people of like minds together.  I searched for Hawaii and I didn't find any.

I don't think there is a specific, Hawaii group, but each set of forums usually has it's own section for like minded individuals.

As for a Hawaii specific group, it would be truly beneficial for survival purposes to know that there is a group of people we can count on to band together. Extreme long term survival is best achieved (imho) in a group, provided the resources are used properly.

I did a cursory search for Hawaii survivalists earlier in the year but didn't come up with anything.  I like to lurk on Survivalistboards.com but a lot of their plans and preps do not apply as universally to us in Hawaii. 

Yeah that's one of the sites I like to go through while bored at work. So much good information there but sometimes...most times... you have to sift through information that doesn't apply to Hawaii. Like changing weather patterns, or owning a ranch and living out in the boonies, varmint hunting, how to cook squirrels, etc. There's a few Hawaii people also over there.

I searched for Hawaii survivalists before too. Actually ONE TIME a year or several ago, on craigslist under Groups was a post looking for members for their survival group. lol.

Extreme long term survival is best achieved (imho) in a group, provided the resources are used properly.

Agreed.

I've moved this board to category from a sub-category to a main category. Hopefully more people will be able to see it.

I've gone through a few boards but don't usually stay too long. I just find what I'm looking for and that's it. Not as much a survival nut as i am a gun nut

There are a few Oahu-ians on the Zombie Hunters forum...not enough to start our own chapter, but there are a few.

I'm torn on the whole survivalist group thing. While I certainly agree that there are alot of benefits to it, I also think that there are alot of drawbacks. To be honest, I haven't come to peace with the idea of joining a group in a disaster. Currently, my plans are solo in nature-just me and the dog-unless we're talking about TEOTWAWKI or a total SHTF scenario...in which case I would be very skeptical and would wait it out until I have about 25% of my reserves remaining. At that point, I would begin to slowly and cautiously recon and observe any other groups in my area to determine if they are trustworthy and safe. I'm not so deluded to think that I can go all Survivorman and live alone indefinitely in the woods, but I am enough of a realist to understand that the grass isn't always greener on the other side. There is safety in numbers, but numbers also draw attention...

- Alex

True, I won't disregard that, however we are on an island. We really can't go far, and if it were a TEOTWAKI type scenario, eventually we would all be screwed. The amount of natural resources is not nearly enough to support a moderately sized population at best. That is however if people don't kill each other for every last bit of resources.

It would take very careful planning and very very good survival skills away from civilization for any form of long term survival.

True, I won't disregard that, however we are on an island. We really can't go far, and if it were a TEOTWAKI type scenario, eventually we would all be screwed. The amount of natural resources is not nearly enough to support a moderately sized population at best. That is however if people don't kill each other for every last bit of resources.

It would take very careful planning and very very good survival skills away from civilization for any form of long term survival.

Think shotgun and birds!

But eventually we'll run out of ammo. Then it's rocks and sharp sticks!

Thanks 2a!

Agreed in that on a island, Oahu at least, with such a high population density, we really don't have free-ranging space to get lost in. I think in this case it's going to be The Haves Vs. Have Nots. I would think the Have Nots are both more willing to commit violence for survival and they will be outnumbering The Haves. But I'm sure we've all heard this debate before. More bodies to pull security and for labor. More food and resources to support them. More people means more risks. More people mean more skills for the group. Safety in numbers. etc.

Maybe we should go to the other sites where Hawaii folks are and tell them, "Awesome plans on this site! But we're barely allowed to defend ourselves outside of our house here in Hawaii. What if Zombies/Aliens/Russians/Dinosaur Rampage/Asteroid/SHTF/TEOTWAWKI while you're NOT AT HOME? Visit www.2ahawaii.com to help fight for your rights!".

Preparing for a dinosaur rampage. lol.

There are a few Oahu-ians on the Zombie Hunters forum...not enough to start our own chapter, but there are a few.

I'm torn on the whole survivalist group thing. While I certainly agree that there are alot of benefits to it, I also think that there are alot of drawbacks. To be honest, I haven't come to peace with the idea of joining a group in a disaster. Currently, my plans are solo in nature-just me and the dog-unless we're talking about TEOTWAWKI or a total SHTF scenario...in which case I would be very skeptical and would wait it out until I have about 25% of my reserves remaining. At that point, I would begin to slowly and cautiously recon and observe any other groups in my area to determine if they are trustworthy and safe. I'm not so deluded to think that I can go all Survivorman and live alone indefinitely in the woods, but I am enough of a realist to understand that the grass isn't always greener on the other side. There is safety in numbers, but numbers also draw attention...

- Alex

Very true.  But still, given the choice between teaming up with a bunch of you guys who already have the survivalist mindset and the proficency with firearms or the random whomever happens to be in the neighborhood and whatever they bought from the supermarket that week... I'd much rather cast in my lot with fellow survivalists/2A members. 

I had a really good reply post ready and my 1984 garage computer crashed while I was trying to  post it. Damn the bad luck, but  it's absolute failure allows me to sum it up in a few lines instead of the novel I had. Having been through Hurricanes, Tornadoes, etc on the mainland, I thought I would chime in.

Like minded individuals will always group up together.  Good or bad. Be skeptic and choose carefully. Keep your friends close and your enemies closer. Your best buds friendship no longer matters when he can't feed/water his family and you can....something has to give there.

The "majority" remains the majority  when it comes to dealing with the loss of everything they are used to in their daily lives. They still expect the expected that will never come to them and most have no ability to improvise or even realize the predicament they may be in. When it gets bad, the GOV isn't coming to save you no matter how much money you have.  This makes them dangerous....spoken riots, looting, and just down right stupidity.

In a real crisis, situational awareness, provisions, KNOWLEDGE coupled with the  WILL TO SURVIVE are worth more than some beachfront property. If the US dollar suddenly became worthless ,  I like to think my mindset and doctrine  is worth its weight in gold. I also think that stockpiling gold is stupid IMHO..if the shit goes down, I would rather have ammunition and stores than a pound of gold in my possession.

I have spent time living in the wild "off the land"  and it is by no means easy; we barely made it on sticks and stones after 3 weeks. Even armed with the know-how and the tools of the trade , it is down right difficult by any measure. 

Suddenly all the critters you think you will eat  go on vacation, your water sources (the most needed of all) are not viable or reliable,  your will to survive is easily tested after the loss of water, food, or shelter.  If you cannot cannot provide water, food, and shelter, for you and you group, you will all be taking a dirt nap quickly.

IMHO, even the majority of "haves and have nots" eventually  become the people at the shelter (avoid if possible) . It's the "can and wills" that will survive. You have to decide early to be in that group and have that mindset. You also need to arm yourself with the knowledge, and application thereof.



 

Damn you guys sound like a bunch of gun totin' tin foil hat wearing militia members

On topic, I only know of one survival group on Oahu. Its myself, wife, kids, and dog. We also have some honorary members, like our inlaws and some close friends.

Whoa, the inlaws made it into your group?

Whoa, the inlaws made it into your group?

I know what you mean! 

Inlaws make excellent decoys.

i know that the last post was at the end of last year, but i found this post to be relatively informative so i thought i'd share my find... a website which appears to be in its infancy, but nonetheless is where i felt this thread was heading.... not necessarily a place to congregate per se, but at least it's a start for the topic more specific for the islands??  maybe folks could nurture it into a place to share thoughts and ideas about an impending economic collapse or other types of isolation scenarios.
anyway, here's the link:

http://www.survivalhawaii.com/

Thanks for the plug. 

I think a good deal of the guys hanging out on 2AHawaii may have already seen me blabing about survivalhawaii.com but always appreciate good words! 

I got lots of love for this site, get a lot of my info from here and i think that "shall issue" for CCW in Hawaii is important, even if i don't talk about it as much as I should on the page.

Anyway, let us know what you'd like to see on SurvivalHawaii.com we put out podcasts generally once a week, always looking for topics to have waiting for us so if there's something you'd like to hear discussed we might not know everything but we'll do the research and would love to hear from you!

Our focus is getting the survivalist out of the shadows, make it more open and friendly. I know the need for OPSEC and all but In Hawaii, shootz, survival with aloha guys! We are at big risk here but no reason to be all humbug 'bout it.

-Dave
SurvivalHawaii.com

I'm a caveman and not into podcasts, but love the articles. =Op

I have a request. Entertain us with the adventure of building an aquaponic system. lol.