Does anyone kno if Las Vegas has a long rifle n shotgun permit requirement (Read 17157 times)

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Anybody kno how much shops charge fo ffl shipping to dea store??

Shipping is based on the service and carrier you choose.  FFL fees are just for the transferring the firearm between buyer and seller.  When a seller in, say, Virginia, ships a rifle to Hawaii, it costs the same to any gun shop on Oahu.  The gun shop's FFL fees vary, however.  You pay for shipping plus FFL fee.
When only cops have guns, it's called a "police state".

Paul96734

Anybody kno how much shops charge fo ffl shipping to dea store??

Shipping will be variable. The FFL fee should be around $50.00 per shop.

Paul96734

Anybody kno how much shops charge fo ffl shipping to dea store??

You can also bring the weapons back on Hawaiian Airlines. Listed is their website's information concerning their transport:

http://www.hawaiianairlines.com/AboutUs/Pages/CarriageRuleItem.aspx?cr=195


Shooting Equipment (Sporting Firearms)
Items of shooting equipment will be accepted only as checked baggage subject to the conditions and charges specified below. For the purpose of this provision one item of shooting equipment is defined as (1) one bag and may include up to but not more than, 5kg (11 lbs) of ammunition. Normal baggage size and weight limits apply.

    Conditions of Acceptance
        Firearms must be unloaded and placed in a suitable container. Firearms must be packed in (1) a manufacturer's crush-proof type container, manufactured specifically for the firearm, or (2) a hard case. Baggage containing handguns must be locked with a key or lock combination in possession of the passenger only, and the bag must be of hard side type. Baggage containing firearms will be transported in an area, other than the cockpit, that is inaccessible to passengers.
        Ammunition must be packed in the manufacturer's original package or securely packed in fiber, wood, or metal boxes.
        For transportation to/from locations outside of the United States acceptance requirements of the host government apply and must be verified upon acceptance. The passenger shall comply with all laws, regulations, orders, demands, or travel requirements of countries to be flown from, into, or over, and with all rules, regulations, and instructions of carrier. Carrier shall not be liable for any aid or information given by any agent or employee of carrier to any passenger in connection with obtaining necessary documents or complying with such laws, regulations, orders, demands, requirements, or instructions, whether given orally, in writing, or otherwise, or for the consequences to any passenger resulting from his failure to obtain such documents or to comply with such laws, regulations, orders, demands, requirements, or instructions.
    Charges
    When in excess, firearms will be subject to normal excess baggage charges.

Rdi

You can also bring the weapons back on Hawaiian Airlines. Listed is their website's information concerning their transport:

http://www.hawaiianairlines.com/AboutUs/Pages/CarriageRuleItem.aspx?cr=195


Shooting Equipment (Sporting Firearms)
Items of shooting equipment will be accepted only as checked baggage subject to the conditions and charges specified below. For the purpose of this provision one item of shooting equipment is defined as (1) one bag and may include up to but not more than, 5kg (11 lbs) of ammunition. Normal baggage size and weight limits apply.

    Conditions of Acceptance
        Firearms must be unloaded and placed in a suitable container. Firearms must be packed in (1) a manufacturer's crush-proof type container, manufactured specifically for the firearm, or (2) a hard case. Baggage containing handguns must be locked with a key or lock combination in possession of the passenger only, and the bag must be of hard side type. Baggage containing firearms will be transported in an area, other than the cockpit, that is inaccessible to passengers.
        Ammunition must be packed in the manufacturer's original package or securely packed in fiber, wood, or metal boxes.
        For transportation to/from locations outside of the United States acceptance requirements of the host government apply and must be verified upon acceptance. The passenger shall comply with all laws, regulations, orders, demands, or travel requirements of countries to be flown from, into, or over, and with all rules, regulations, and instructions of carrier. Carrier shall not be liable for any aid or information given by any agent or employee of carrier to any passenger in connection with obtaining necessary documents or complying with such laws, regulations, orders, demands, requirements, or instructions, whether given orally, in writing, or otherwise, or for the consequences to any passenger resulting from his failure to obtain such documents or to comply with such laws, regulations, orders, demands, requirements, or instructions.
    Charges
    When in excess, firearms will be subject to normal excess baggage charges.
Thanx paul96734
Fo all da info hopefully I can find something crossin my fingers..

Rdi

Shipping is based on the service and carrier you choose.  FFL fees are just for the transferring the firearm between buyer and seller.  When a seller in, say, Virginia, ships a rifle to Hawaii, it costs the same to any gun shop on Oahu.  The gun shop's FFL fees vary, however.  You pay for shipping plus FFL fee.
Thanx Moosed
Fo da info crossin my fingers dat I can find something up dem much mahalo'z  :shaka:

jonjon

Was wondering if anybody had some info on dis question was plannin a Vegas trip n jus in case I see something nice I wanted to kno if I would even able to purchase a rifle?? Mahalo'z  :shaka:

You are by law allowed to purchase long guns or shotguns from a Nevada FFL dealer as a Nevada non-resident and take possession of that firearm immediately after purchase. Bill ab217 went into effect July 1, 2011 and repeals the provisions of  NRS 597.910

http://openstates.org/nv/bills/76/AB217/documents/NVD00005350/ link to Bill ab217

This is only for the sale of long guns and not for handguns also the long gun purchased by the non-resident has to be legal in the purchasers home state.

That being said - The local gun shops will do whatever they want because most don't know the law has been changed since July 01, 2011. Bass Pro wont sell to non-residents but The Gun Store will.

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The out of state resident laws apply to residents of only contiguous states to Nevada

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So is it worth the drive to arizona?  Is it cash and carry for no residents? 
I assume I can still buy at gun shows and pawn shops?

jonjon

The out of state resident laws apply to residents of only contiguous states to Nevada

Click the link in my post above - the law was changed on July 01, 2011.  You don't have to be a resident from contiguous state to purchase a long gun in Nevada.

sa594

Click the link in my post above - the law was changed on July 01, 2011.  You don't have to be a resident from contiguous state to purchase a long gun in Nevada.

Good to know

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If I read it correctly, there has to be an FFL in the picture.  Either the seller or the buyer has to be a licensed dealer.  According to my interpretation, you can travel to Nevada, buy a rifle from an FFL holder there, and then fly back to Hawaii with it -- as long as the sale complies with Hawaii law as well.  Once you return, you should have to take it to the police department and register it as an out-of-state purchased rifle or shotgun.  There should be no need to ship the firearm to an FFL since ownership will have already been transferred to you.

I'm not a lawyer nor an FFL holder, so take this as a layman's reading of the law in Nevada:

http://www.leg.state.nv.us/Session/76th2011/Bills/AB/AB217.pdf
When only cops have guns, it's called a "police state".

DeejayTTHawaii

Hmm, very helpful info. I'm going to Vegas next month and want to see if the prices are better there!  :geekdanc:
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jonjon

If I read it correctly, there has to be an FFL in the picture.  Either the seller or the buyer has to be a licensed dealer.  According to my interpretation, you can travel to Nevada, buy a rifle from an FFL holder there, and then fly back to Hawaii with it -- as long as the sale complies with Hawaii law as well.  Once you return, you should have to take it to the police department and register it as an out-of-state purchased rifle or shotgun.  There should be no need to ship the firearm to an FFL since ownership will have already been transferred to you.

I'm not a lawyer nor an FFL holder, so take this as a layman's reading of the law in Nevada:

http://www.leg.state.nv.us/Session/76th2011/Bills/AB/AB217.pdf

Yup - that's it, as long as the seller has an ffl you can take possession of the long gun after purchase. The only thing is that many of the gun stores up there do not know about the revision to law and they will tell you that they can't sell to you.

Another thing to think about is getting a part time resident Nevada ID esepesially for people who travel to las Vegas alot which is most of Hawaii. Also if you have property in Vegas or relatives that will let you use their address to get a part time resident ID. Once you get that you can buy whatever you want.

Rdi

If I read it correctly, there has to be an FFL in the picture.  Either the seller or the buyer has to be a licensed dealer.  According to my interpretation, you can travel to Nevada, buy a rifle from an FFL holder there, and then fly back to Hawaii with it -- as long as the sale complies with Hawaii law as well.  Once you return, you should have to take it to the police department and register it as an out-of-state purchased rifle or shotgun.  There should be no need to ship the firearm to an FFL since ownership will have already been transferred to you.

I'm not a lawyer nor an FFL holder, so take this as a layman's reading of the law in Nevada:

http://www.leg.state.nv.us/Session/76th2011/Bills/AB/AB217.pdf
Thanx Moosed fo all da info I will look into it  :shaka:

Rdi

Hmm, very helpful info. I'm going to Vegas next month and want to see if the prices are better there!  :geekdanc:
DeejayTThawaii
I was wonderin da same thing Hmmmm?? Lmk  :shaka:

Rdi

Yup - that's it, as long as the seller has an ffl you can take possession of the long gun after purchase. The only thing is that many of the gun stores up there do not know about the revision to law and they will tell you that they can't sell to you.

Another thing to think about is getting a part time resident Nevada ID esepesially for people who travel to las Vegas alot which is most of Hawaii. Also if you have property in Vegas or relatives that will let you use their address to get a part time resident ID. Once you get that you can buy whatever you want.
Jonjon thanx fo da info I will look into da part time resident card also.  :shaka:

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 597.910 Sales of rifles and shotguns to residents of Nevada and contiguous states in accordance with federal law.
 1. Residents of the State of Nevada may purchase rifles and shotguns in states contiguous to Nevada if:
     (a) Such residents conform to the applicable provisions of the federal firearms control law (18 U.S.C. §§ 921 et seq.) and any
           regulation promulgated thereunder.
     (b) Such residents conform to the provisions of law applicable to such a purchase in Nevada and in the state where the purchase is
          made.
 2. Residents of a state contiguous to the State of Nevada may purchase rifles and shotguns in Nevada if:
     (a) Such residents conform to the applicable provisions of the federal firearms control law (18 U.S.C. §§ 921 et seq.) and any
           regulation promulgated thereunder.
     (b) Such residents conform to the provisions of law applicable to such purchase in Nevada and in the state where such persons reside.
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597.910 Sales of rifles and shotguns to residents of Nevada and contiguous states in accordance with federal law.
 1. Residents of the State of Nevada may purchase rifles and shotguns in states contiguous to Nevada if:
     (a) Such residents conform to the applicable provisions of the federal firearms control law (18 U.S.C. §§ 921 et seq.) and any
           regulation promulgated thereunder.
     (b) Such residents conform to the provisions of law applicable to such a purchase in Nevada and in the state where the purchase is
          made.
 2. Residents of a state contiguous to the State of Nevada may purchase rifles and shotguns in Nevada if:
     (a) Such residents conform to the applicable provisions of the federal firearms control law (18 U.S.C. §§ 921 et seq.) and any
           regulation promulgated thereunder.
     (b) Such residents conform to the provisions of law applicable to such purchase in Nevada and in the state where such persons reside.

That's the OLD LAW.  The NEW LAW repeals all of the "Contiguous States" mumbo jumbo:

When only cops have guns, it's called a "police state".

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I cant find the corrected document in the .gov sites..
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I cant find the corrected document in the .gov sites..

http://www.leg.state.nv.us/Session/76th2011/Bills/AB/AB217.pdf

Or you can go to the 100% reliable "Bible" of the Interweb:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Gun_laws_in_Nevada

Scroll to the bottom before the biblio.   :shaka:


When only cops have guns, it's called a "police state".