I looked up 2nd degree murder and as usual for me, it's clear as mud.  As far as putting it into context as to what happened in this incident.

I hope more information comes out as to why they slapped this charge upon the 42 year old man whose house was being rammed by the front loader.

What was he supposed to do?  Ask nicely to stop?  Kinda past that don't you think?

Was he supposed to aim for the leg?

Was it because he did a mag dump on the guy?  Did he continue to shoot the guy after the guy is down?

HPD should explain why the 2nd degree murder charge.

I looked up 2nd degree murder and as usual for me, it's clear as mud.  As far as putting it into context as to what happened in this incident.

I hope more information comes out as to why they slapped this charge upon the 42 year old man whose house was being rammed by the front loader.

What was he supposed to do?  Ask nicely to stop?  Kinda past that don't you think?

Was he supposed to aim for the leg?

Was it because he did a mag dump on the guy?  Did he continue to shoot the guy after the guy is down?

HPD should explain why the 2nd degree murder charge.

Probably not a clear cut self-defense shooting.  Like maybe the loader guy came over to complain about noise late at night and the handgun guy threatened him with a gun, which would be initiating or escalating the incident and remove self-defense protections.

We're back to promoting fisting again.

The shootings were particularly tragic, Landford said, because an uncle in one of the families had been talking to Landford and other members of the neighborhood board about settling disputes between younger Waianae residents the “old-school way.”

“Growing up in the old days, you fist it out, shook hands and it’s over,” Landford said. “An uncle would tell the kids, ‘Once you leave the yard it’s over. You cannot call your cousin or brother or father. It’s over. The thing is done and everybody goes home.’ We cannot do that anymore. Now with social media, kids think they’re all Al Capone. It’s tough.”

In the old days, men were men.

Gentlemen.  With honor.

Now everyone is insecure.

We're back to promoting fisting again.

The shootings were particularly tragic, Landford said, because an uncle in one of the families had been talking to Landford and other members of the neighborhood board about settling disputes between younger Waianae residents the “old-school way.”

“Growing up in the old days, you fist it out, shook hands and it’s over,” Landford said. “An uncle would tell the kids, ‘Once you leave the yard it’s over. You cannot call your cousin or brother or father. It’s over. The thing is done and everybody goes home.’ We cannot do that anymore. Now with social media, kids think they’re all Al Capone. It’s tough.”

The community fosters its own culture. I wonder why these events don't occur frequently in other neighborhoods like Hawaii Kai? If you look at race and income you're like that witch doctor that looks at only the symptoms and not the disease.

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We're back to promoting fisting again.

The shootings were particularly tragic, Landford said, because an uncle in one of the families had been talking to Landford and other members of the neighborhood board about settling disputes between younger Waianae residents the “old-school way.”

“Growing up in the old days, you fist it out, shook hands and it’s over,” Landford said. “An uncle would tell the kids, ‘Once you leave the yard it’s over. You cannot call your cousin or brother or father. It’s over. The thing is done and everybody goes home.’ We cannot do that anymore. Now with social media, kids think they’re all Al Capone. It’s tough.”

I'm guessing drugs and money are a major reason for the Westside violence.  Money makes people do stuoopid things. Drugs make people fearless and stoopider.
Actually, I think drugs and money form a vicious cycle.

Bad parenting.  Fatherless children.  Drug mommies.  Wearing bling bling while their hanna batta babies wear 2 day old diapers filled with shiite.

I remember years ago an article about parents teaching their children how to exploit the welfare system.

And the best was a buff looking surfer buying booze at foodland pupukea with food stamps his girlfriend gave him.  He was in cahoots with the foodland cashier. 

Hell when I was working I had a co-worker who had a billion children with his girlfriend and they were exploiting the welfare system even though he was making good money as an electrician.  He moved in with his girlfriend and the girlfriend never reported him as part of the household wage earner.

I digress.  But anyway, there are a lot of social ills starting from stupid liberal crap that was introduced in the early 70's that I believe are the root of our social collapse today.  Meaning lack of consideration, respect for private property, etc.  This probably led to what happened with this incident.

A large portion of our young population simply was not raised right.

My opinion.  Of course.

Heavy equipment qualifies as a dead weapon.
Everybody knew the front loader guy was trouble but little or no action was taken.

Waiting on information on the identity of the dead and wounded victims.  Who are they and what relation to anybody there.  How come no information on them.

The family is afraid of retaliation from Silva's family.  Yes, understandable.

Can Silva's family say the same?  Or are they the "ainokea" type?

The dead and wounded victims have family too.

Waiting on information on the identity of the dead and wounded victims.  Who are they and what relation to anybody there.  How come no information on them.

The dead and wounded victims have family too.

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My friend is a grief counselor and went to visit the family yesterday. So sad.
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And then we have this winner on Maui.
ER doc, domestic violence detective brought to tears in Maui child abuse trial

https://www.hawaiinewsnow.com/2024/09/10/er-doc-domestic-violence-detective-brought-tears-maui-child-abuse-trial/
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There has to be a special kind of karma for anybody that beats up one year old babies.

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My friend is a grief counselor and went to visit the family yesterday. So sad.
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And then we have this winner on Maui.
ER doc, domestic violence detective brought to tears in Maui child abuse trial

https://www.hawaiinewsnow.com/2024/09/10/er-doc-domestic-violence-detective-brought-tears-maui-child-abuse-trial/
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There has to be a special kind of karma for anybody that beats up one year old babies.

Child abuse cases tear my heart apart.  I think of my grandkids and I cannot believe we have people out there capable of doing the unthinkable.

Yeah, that special "karma" awaits them in prison.  I believe inmates have a deep hatred for child abusers.

Child abuse cases tear my heart apart.  I think of my grandkids and I cannot believe we have people out there capable of doing the unthinkable.

Yeah, that special "karma" awaits them in prison.  I believe inmates have a deep hatred for child abusers.

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When the "special karma" happens, I would pay money for a ringside seat.....hell, I would sell tickets and provide beer and popcorn for the audience.

assault vehicle. No info on make and model. Registered or not.

https://www.hawaiinewsnow.com/2024/09/27/hpd-man-intentionally-drove-vehicle-into-2-people-kalihi/

assault vehicle. No info on make and model. Registered or not.

https://www.hawaiinewsnow.com/2024/09/27/hpd-man-intentionally-drove-vehicle-into-2-people-kalihi/

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Not a gun

another instance of knife violence....we are getting stabbed to death here where are the laws?

https://www.kitv.com/news/man-seriously-injured-from-alleged-stabbing-in-downtown-honolulu/article_55f67d7a-9b2a-11ef-ac30-4707ed1a960f.html