Young v. State of Hawaii (Read 181025 times)

PalisadesKid

Re: Update Young v. State of Hawaii
« Reply #100 on: July 24, 2018, 10:44:42 AM »
Yes it's your right damn it!  Join most of the rest of the country already.  I'm glad to finally hear a slight hope for actual good gun laws in Hawaii.

Legislative Session 2019 they fire back with another failed attempt at an assault weapons ban just to spite us all. LOL  ;D

SOLEsource684

Re: Update Young v. State of Hawaii
« Reply #101 on: July 24, 2018, 10:52:48 AM »
So whats next? Can I rock out w/ my Glock out?  :shaka: :shaka:

Drakiir84

Re: Update Young v. State of Hawaii
« Reply #102 on: July 24, 2018, 11:11:15 AM »
So whats next? Can I rock out w/ my Glock out?  :shaka: :shaka:

Definitely not.
"The rifle is a weapon. Let there be no mistake about that. It is a tool of power, and thus dependent completely upon the moral stature of its user. It is equally useful in securing meat for the table, destroying group enemies on the battlefield, and resisting tyranny. In fact, it is the only means of resisting tyranny, since a citizenry armed with rifles simply cannot be tyrannized."
-Jeff Cooper

changemyoil66

Re: Update Young v. State of Hawaii
« Reply #103 on: July 24, 2018, 11:12:02 AM »
How can I donate money to help with attorneys fees?

rklapp

Re: Update Young v. State of Hawaii
« Reply #104 on: July 24, 2018, 11:16:06 AM »
Yahh! Freedom and justice shall always prevail over tyranny, Babysitter Girl!
https://ronsreloading.wordpress.com/

zippz

Re: Update Young v. State of Hawaii
« Reply #105 on: July 24, 2018, 11:18:58 AM »
How can I donate money to help with attorneys fees?

Ill add you to our facebook activism group.

6716J

Re: Update Young v. State of Hawaii
« Reply #106 on: July 24, 2018, 11:33:55 AM »
Ill add you to our facebook activism group.

Whats the page?
I'd rather have a bottle in front of me, than a frontal lobotomy.

6716J

I'd rather have a bottle in front of me, than a frontal lobotomy.

2ahavvaii

Re: Update Young v. State of Hawaii
« Reply #108 on: July 24, 2018, 11:38:46 AM »
This is hiliarious, the panel called out hawaii's policy of being a concealed carry state, and denying all permit applications.


While the County’s police chief purportedly awaits an
“exceptional case” to grant a concealed carry license, section 134-9 is
effectively a ban on the concealed carry of firearms. As counsel for the
County openly admitted at oral argument, not a single concealed carry
license has ever been granted by the County. Nor have concealed carry
applicants in other counties fared much better: Hawaii counties appear
to have issued only four concealed carry licenses in the past eighteen
years.

...............
Thus, even if the State and County remain free to accommodate the right to bear arms with concealed carry
after Peruta II, an issue we do not decide, section 134-9 does not offer a
realistic opportunity for a concealed carry license

6716J

Re: Update Young v. State of Hawaii
« Reply #109 on: July 24, 2018, 12:11:47 PM »
Wow....

Just read through the entire decision. I am truly amazed at the depth and breadth the court went to in reaching it's (rightful) decision. To quote portions and sections of the decision would require just posting the entire document. There are too many great reasonings to share individually. In reading the dissent, it is equally the opposite in shallowness. It is the judicial equivalent of toddler speak for "because I said so".

This is truly a landmark decision that will and should be a basis of decisions forward.  I would hope that the 9th en banc would agree not to hear hear it and the State would just let things go and move forward with removing onerous and burdensome regulations from the law.

To the plaintiffs and barristers I raise a glass for you today! Skol!

If you haven't read the entire decision, you should. The legalese is a pain, but once you get through it, you will love it.
http://cdn.ca9.uscourts.gov/datastore/opinions/2018/07/24/12-17808.pdf

Mahalo to all that have gone before to make this possible
I'd rather have a bottle in front of me, than a frontal lobotomy.

zippz

Re: Update Young v. State of Hawaii
« Reply #110 on: July 24, 2018, 12:26:30 PM »
Fyi, Young initially filed the case and represented himself with little legal experience.  The gun organizations didnt want to help him.  That takes a lot of courage.

2ahavvaii

Re: Update Young v. State of Hawaii
« Reply #111 on: July 24, 2018, 12:42:04 PM »
http://www.staradvertiser.com/2018/07/24/breaking-news/9th-circuit-court-rules-2nd-amendment-allows-right-to-carry-guns-in-public/

anti-gun fanatics wringing their hands and bleating about their safety because potentially law abiding citizens will exercise their 2nd amendment rights.  its hilarious.

ptanabe

Re: Update Young v. State of Hawaii
« Reply #112 on: July 24, 2018, 12:45:49 PM »
I read the brief but got bogged down in the language . Can someone give us a summary?
This reminds me of the wise words of democrat congressman John Conyers
“I love these members, they get up and say, ‘Read the bill’........... Wh...What good is reading the bill if it’s a thousand pages and you don’t have two days and two lawyers to find out what it means after you read the bill?”

zippz

Re: Update Young v. State of Hawaii
« Reply #113 on: July 24, 2018, 01:09:31 PM »
Whats the page?

Ill get you signed up at the next meeting.

P3w_P3w!

Re: Update Young v. State of Hawaii
« Reply #114 on: July 24, 2018, 02:16:49 PM »
I too would like to donate.

Bunker

Re: Update Young v. State of Hawaii
« Reply #115 on: July 24, 2018, 02:35:28 PM »
The Republicans have quietly been filling judge vacancies across the nation with conservatives and the 9th Circus is high on their radar because they are probably, if not, the most liberal court in the nation. They did suffer a setback last week when the White House withdrew the nomination of Ryan Bounds for the Ninth Circuit after realizing it did not have the necessary support in the Senate, but that vacancy will be filled with a Trumpster conservative judge. Hopefully a few more in the 9th Circuit will vacant and the Republicans on Trump's coattails can reshape the 9th, and then we'll have a fighting chance on future cases!

drck1000

Re: Update Young v. State of Hawaii
« Reply #116 on: July 24, 2018, 02:48:29 PM »
9th Circuit Court Makeup (Active Judges)

Nixon - 2
Carter - 4
Reagan - 3
Clinton - 16
Bush - 9
Obama - 7
Trump - 1

https://www.ca9.uscourts.gov/content/view_seniority_list.php?pk_id=0000000035

Wow!  Clinton appointed a bunch of judges (16!).  And there are some old judges.  One was appointed in 1971! Alfred Goodwin is 95 years old!  That's going to be a lot to change the tide. 

Aloha808

Re: Update Young v. State of Hawaii
« Reply #117 on: July 24, 2018, 05:05:14 PM »
Good news.  It's either the 9th circuit accepts it and permits must be issued or they reject it and it goes to scotus. And there are already previous rulings that ruled permits must be issued, so we know what scotus will say. Itll take a bit more time, but looks good to go. Still keep your fingers crossed

6716J

Re: Update Young v. State of Hawaii
« Reply #118 on: July 24, 2018, 06:03:57 PM »
The process for an en banc review....http://cloud.tapatalk.com/s/5b57f6908480f/Ninth-Circuit-En-Banc-Procedure-Flowchart.pdf.pdf

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I'd rather have a bottle in front of me, than a frontal lobotomy.

RSN172

Re: Update Young v. State of Hawaii
« Reply #119 on: July 24, 2018, 06:05:40 PM »
http://www.staradvertiser.com/2018/07/24/breaking-news/9th-circuit-court-rules-2nd-amendment-allows-right-to-carry-guns-in-public/

anti-gun fanatics wringing their hands and bleating about their safety because potentially law abiding citizens will exercise their 2nd amendment rights.  its hilarious.

Yes.  Watching the local evening news about this decision is fun stuff.
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