I would love to attend but a cost of $2k is a bit steep. So I didn't answer the poll so as not to skew the number of interest.

I would love to attend but a cost of $2k is a bit steep. So I didn't answer the poll so as not to skew the number of interest.

A lot of that was based on the ammo, and sadly, I think that 2k estimate is a bit under.   When I did Carbine 2 with Chris Costa of Costa Ludus, I fired almost 2500 rounds of .223 in the 3 day course.  I went through about 700 rounds of 9mm a day for the handgun portion.


As a side note, where the hell are all you people wanting training at for the *FREE* HDF range days?

While maybe not magpul, we may be teaching more classes.


As a side note, where the hell are all you people wanting training at for the *FREE* HDF range days?

On the Big Island 

On the Big Island 

have no fear 8-) we are working on some options for you too. (That won't be in the range of 2k, more like 450).

have no fear 8-) we are working on some options for you too. (That won't be in the range of 2k, more like 450).

Right on ,keep me updated.

I would love to attend but a cost of $2k is a bit steep. So I didn't answer the poll so as not to skew the number of interest.

From the Magpul Dynamics website:

Carbine 1 & 2
$450 - 2 day course | students provide their own ammo: 800rds, 200rds pistol
$600 - 3 day course | students provide their own ammo: 1250rds, 250rds pistol

Handgun 1& 2
$450 - 2 day course | students provide their own ammo: 900rds
$600 - 3 day course | students provide their own ammo: 1400rds

Shotgun
$450 - 2 day course
Students provide their own ammo:
600 rounds bird
50 rounds buck
50 rounds slug
100 rounds pistol

Hawaiian AIr roundtrip to Hilo from Honolulu is about $160 average.

We can also save some money by carpooling and also save on hotel by camping on site, where there is a will there is a way 

From the Magpul Dynamics website:

Carbine 1 & 2
$450 - 2 day course | students provide their own ammo: 800rds, 200rds pistol
$600 - 3 day course | students provide their own ammo: 1250rds, 250rds pistol

Handgun 1& 2
$450 - 2 day course | students provide their own ammo: 900rds
$600 - 3 day course | students provide their own ammo: 1400rds

Shotgun
$450 - 2 day course
Students provide their own ammo:
600 rounds bird
50 rounds buck
50 rounds slug
100 rounds pistol

Hawaiian AIr to Hilo from Honolulu is about $160 average.

We can also save some money by carpooling and also save on hotel by camping on site, where there is a will there is a way 

Only thing to add in there is that depending on your rifle, you have the oversize bag charge .  When travelling, my pelican costs me $100 to ship lol.

ok, given that info re: cost and round count
i would be in for handgun 2 or 3 day course ONLY
likely 3 more than 2, so i can maximize cost and time spent vs flight costs
i have relatives on hilo and kona side i can stay at, but i'd still like to maximize time and $$$
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From the Magpul Dynamics website:

Carbine 1 & 2
$450 - 2 day course | students provide their own ammo: 800rds, 200rds pistol
$600 - 3 day course | students provide their own ammo: 1250rds, 250rds pistol

Handgun 1& 2
$450 - 2 day course | students provide their own ammo: 900rds
$600 - 3 day course | students provide their own ammo: 1400rds

Shotgun
$450 - 2 day course
Students provide their own ammo:
600 rounds bird
50 rounds buck
50 rounds slug
100 rounds pistol

Hawaiian AIr to Hilo from Honolulu is about $160 average.

We can also save some money by carpooling and also save on hotel by camping on site, where there is a will there is a way 

btw, how much ammo are we allowed to take interisland?

ok, given that info re: cost and round count
i would be in for handgun 2 or 3 day course ONLY
likely 3 more than 2, so i can maximize cost and time spent vs flight costs

As a side note, where the hell are all you people wanting training at for the *FREE* HDF range days?

you need a cool DVD set. Call Panteao.

btw, how much ammo are we allowed to take interisland?

11 lbs.

you need a cool DVD set. Call Panteao.

hah =p nah we are nothing special; but I know we have been able to improve quite a few peoples shooting over the past year and some change.

Only thing to add in there is that depending on your rifle, you have the oversize bag charge .  When travelling, my pelican costs me $100 to ship lol.

That sucks for you - i've taken my Pelican 1720 numerous times on Hawaiian and Delta and have never been charged  either lucky or being a gold/platinum flight member actually has useful benefits.

That sucks for you - i've taken my Pelican 1720 numerous times on Hawaiian and Delta and have never been charged  either lucky or being a gold/platinum flight member actually has useful benefits.

1720 will be no problem, 1750 is oversize .  I store my rifle, two handguns with lights, all my magazines for all firearms (10 pistol, 8 rifle), flash lights, etc. in it.

btw, how much ammo are we allowed to take interisland?

Easiest thing would be to just consolidate our stuff and put it on a pallet on YB.  Split the costs.

btw, how much ammo are we allowed to take interisland?

With Hawaiian Air, max is 11lbs. That being said all of the times I did fly, the ticket agent never did weigh my ammo, they always weigh my check in bag but never the ammo separately as long as the check in bag was below the max. limit they never gave me a problem. I always declare that I have ammo in my check in but most times they are more occupied with checking and filling out the forms for my firearms.

Easiest thing would be to just consolidate our stuff and put it on a pallet on YB.  Split the costs.

Is there hazmat fees involved with inter island shipment of ammo? We could see if we can do a group buy on ammo from one of the LGS and hopefully get a bulk discount to help on cost also is it possible to have LGS have ammo dropped shipped to range location?

yeah, that's what i was thinking too
anyone have connections for shipping?

Easiest thing would be to just consolidate our stuff and put it on a pallet on YB.  Split the costs.

A small gvan container was about $200 about 5 years ago.  I'm sure if you pack it correct all will fit in the gvan

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As a side note, where the hell are all you people wanting training at for the *FREE* HDF range days?

when's the next HDF range day with rifles?