a two day class could be an option, but not four - at kokohead that is.   

a two day class could be an option, but not four - at kokohead that is.   

How is kokohead with allowing a for-profit company running a class there?

How is kokohead with allowing a for-profit company running a class there?

non-profits run courses all the time; theres nothing wrong with people under the rules getting just compensation at least where non-profits are concerned. The only difference between a non-profit and a for profit training institution is after you pay the instructors, the money has to stay in the company and can't get distributed out to whoever.  For example, magpul instructor could be an adjunct instructor and get "fair compensation" for teaching, which would be legitimately whatever the going rate for instructors of that quality are.  Expenses and stuff come from the non-profit side, because it's their event, and that would also be factored into the cost of the event.

People confuse non-profits for not being able to make a profit, which is not true.  It's just their funds have to go to the betterment and furtherance of their non-profit purposes.  For us, that purpose is defense of civil rights and firearms education.

Funtimes is a genius!   

non-profits run courses all the time; theres nothing wrong with people under the rules getting just compensation at least where non-profits are concerned. The only difference between a non-profit and a for profit training institution is after you pay the instructors, the money has to stay in the company and can't get distributed out to whoever.  For example, magpul instructor could be an adjunct instructor and get "fair compensation" for teaching, which would be legitimately whatever the going rate for instructors of that quality are.  Expenses and stuff come from the non-profit side, because it's their event, and that would also be factored into the cost of the event.

People confuse non-profits for not being able to make a profit, which is not true.  It's just their funds have to go to the betterment and furtherance of their non-profit purposes.  For us, that purpose is defense of civil rights and firearms education.

Right. I.E. Bishop Estate
I couldn't afford the fees instructors like Magpul charges.
Is it "fair comp" for the instructors in that market? Perhaps.

People confuse non-profits for not being able to make a profit, which is not true.  It's just their funds have to go to the betterment and furtherance of their non-profit purposes.  For us, that purpose is defense of civil rights and firearms education.

So if "Magpul" ran a class and charged for enrollment would that be a go or no-go at kokohead?

So if "Magpul" ran a class and charged for enrollment would that be a go or no-go at kokohead?

There are several businesses that do that now. The Japanese tourists on the rifle side and the various classes taught on the pistol side for people who want to obtain a pistol permit to acquire.

There are several businesses that do that now. The Japanese tourists on the rifle side and the various classes taught on the pistol side for people who want to obtain a pistol permit to acquire.

But does the C&C actually know these for profit classes are being held?  I would guess not. 

We could do 4 days in Glenwood...if there were enough people willing to fork out the cash.

^^^So long as there is enough notice and I can get time off, I'd be in.

^^^So long as there is enough notice and I can get time off, I'd be in.

Maybe you can finally answer the "piston versus DI" challenge, too!   

Keep us updated..I'm down. 

I think whoever is seriously interested should post what class they would be interested in

If it's on BI I would be down for a carbine 2 class

We could do 4 days in Glenwood...if there were enough people willing to fork out the cash.

OK guys - this is where "money talks" if we can make a list of guaranteed students with credit cards ready to pay the course fees up front, it will make Magpuls decision to come to Hawaii a whole lot easier. When I last talked to the Director of Precision Rifle he stated that he needed 12 students per class and they will try to run 3 to 4 different classes while they are here

2 day classes - $450
3 day classes - $600
4 day classes - $750

If we can start a list to know what classes everyone is interested in and who would be willing to pay the price we can get a better idea if there is enough interest to make it worthwhile for Magpul to provide their services here. After talking with the instructors all of them would come to Hawaii in a heartbeat but it is up to the higher ups and accountans to decide if it financially viable to make the trip.

I'd be willing to put the cash.  I'd freaking sleep in a tent on the big island if I had to do gun training here lol.

I'd be willing to put the cash.  I'd freaking sleep in a tent on the big island if I had to do gun training here lol.

Hey - Crazy Cat has offered to let people camp at the range if the course is held a Glenwood(Big Island) We could also offer Emergency Prep. classes or night shooting classes too  - Boy(Man) Scouts Camp 

I'm also willing, handgun or carbine. Obviously I'd need to know when so I can figure out if it would be good with my work schedule, but I'd be willing to pay upfront if need be to get them down here.

I'm down. Could probably only afford a 2 day class though right now.  Down for doing it camping tent style too if need be.

How can I find what type of classes they have? Go to their website?

Seriously interested, in more than one class.  Would need concrete dates before I can commit because my schedule is terrible.  Once location and dates are set, I can let you know. 
 

I'm in for whatever class they offer.  As long as it's not on my drill weekend.