i didnt vote yet because im waiting to see the ammo situation. dont wanna commit yet and screw up the head count.

i have enough 9mm to take the 3 day pistol class, but then id be pretty low after that. plus taking ammo with me wont be easy. id love to buy a case of ammo on whatever island its on, as long as its reasonable. last case i bought was $199/1000 haha! i still trip how things change in 6 months.
 anything less than double that will be acceptable as long as its on island or thats the shipped price. if it gets to be over .50 cents a round for 9mm at an outerisland LGS or after i factor in the shipping then count me out. id be too distracted thinking about how id rather be using a m&p22 with 3.5 cents a round winchester hahaha. yes, i know legit training is invaluable but if we cant work together to reduce the total cost of the classes,then it may just be bad timing. imho.

im also interested in the shotgun course but i cant imagine bringing 700 rounds of 12 gauge with me!! i have a whole mortar can full of just birdshot from kingkeoni and it easily weighs more than 25 pounds. probably 50. i think theres only around 700 rounds in there too!

With Hawaiian Air, max is 11lbs. That being said all of the times I did fly, the ticket agent never did weigh my ammo, they always weigh my check in bag but never the ammo separately as long as the check in bag was below the max. limit they never gave me a problem. I always declare that I have ammo in my check in but most times they are more occupied with checking and filling out the forms for my firearms.



Is there hazmat fees involved with inter island shipment of ammo? We could see if we can do a group buy on ammo from one of the LGS and hopefully get a bulk discount to help on cost also is it possible to have LGS have ammo dropped shipped to range location?

United is the same, 11 lbs max. In two trips, they didn't weigh anything first trip, the agent didn't even have me open the rifle bag inside the Pelican shell. Last night, the guy asked to see my mags to show they were empty, but it was real quick.

when's the next HDF range day with rifles?

Right now only the price of ammo is keeping us from doing it.  I have considered doing a AK day, since 7.62 is available in cheap... but most people can't afford to come out and blow $300 dollars in ammo for a training day.

Count me in for an AR or AK day. Unless magpul comes down then ill have to save ammo for that

Seems like ammo prices and demand has peaked, so hopefully things will be a bit better at the end of summer.

Seems like ammo prices and demand has peaked, so hopefully things will be a bit better at the end of summer.

Just saw a tweet for some steel 5.56 for 399 / 1k... that is almost some prices we can train on .   I can't afford it right now since I just bought a Rem 700 LTR.

I haven't gone shooting in so long because of prices =o(

Magpul Dynamics Hawaii - Update

Ok - just got a reply back from the Director of Precision Rifle(Caylen Wojcik), he had a meeting the Director of Carbine(Jon Canipe) and they are down for a Hawaii Class. I am now waiting for them to decide on a date, I suggested to them somewhere between Nov - Jan. Also looks like the range in Glenwood Hilo is the only range willing to host the class unless anyone can come up with any other possible locations. As for which classes will be offered, the instructors want to run two classes back to back so according to the replies from the poll it would be Handgun 1 and carbine 1. They will need at least 15 students per class, so once the dates are set we will need to make sure the slots get filled quickly or they will cancel the classes. Will update with more details when Magpul gets back to me 

Magpul Dynamics Hawaii - Update

Ok - just got a reply back from the Director of Precision Rifle(Caylen Wojcik), he had a meeting the Director of Carbine(Jon Canipe) and they are down for a Hawaii Class. I am now waiting for them to decide on a date, I suggested to them somewhere between Nov - Jan. Also looks like the range in Glenwood Hilo is the only range willing to host the class unless anyone can come up with any other possible locations. As for which classes will be offered, the instructors want to run two classes back to back so according to the replies from the poll it would be Handgun 1 and carbine 1. They will need at least 15 students per class, so once the dates are set we will need to make sure the slots get filled quickly or they will cancel the classes. Will update with more details when Magpul gets back to me 

That is awesome, thanks again.

In I hope!  Thanks for getting this going!  I bet it will sell out and will have to add additional sessions

Where is hnl.flyboy and did he get his pilot certification, yet?? 

I'm here!  Haven't been keeping up...Looks like some 50-odd pages of unread threads..

I am a pilot and have been for almost 7 years, but I'm still flying under the limitations of a Private Pilot--I cannot fly for "compensation or hire."  Therefore, flying 400 lbs (about all my craft can carry) to Kona would run me personally somewhere in the neighborhood of $650 (4.4 hours there and back at ~$140-$150 an hour, depending on the fuel surcharge), and an aviation lawyer could probably argue that I'm still outside the law (obtaining your favor could be construed as "compensation").  Even if I had my Commercial certificate, $650 for 400 pounds of ammo is probably not worth it.

Awesome!  Now we just. Gotta pin down the dates,   

So theres a minimum of 15 students, which I'm sure wont be a problem filling.  Is there a MAXIMUM?

i think you'll be surprised when the $$$ come due
i think there's going to be a lot of back and forth when that happens

So theres a minimum of 15 students, which I'm sure wont be a problem filling.  Is there a MAXIMUM?

Alright, how much will it cost?

*EDIT*
Didn't think the magpul website would open at work but it did.

Looks like the Lvl1 starts at 2-day courses and they're $450 each. Handgun1 requires 900 rnds min. Carbine1 requires 800rnds + 200 pistol rnds.
3-day courses are $600 each and more ammo.

mwuehehehehe

 

damn, no carbine 2?

Watching the Carbine1 1-5 drill I'd be a level -3 on that scale     If these guys are coming out to train us I'm going - at least will be on our timezone and short flight time. 

Whew doggy, 800 rounds.  I have about 500 rounds of .223 I've been sitting on, I guess this will be as good a time as any.  Time to start buying more.

I'm guessing in that timeframe, cost of bulk ammo should be down to about $0.45 a round for M193 and $0.25 for 9mm with availability.  Please avoid the first weekend of the month, it's usually Army and Air Guard/Reserve drill weekend.

Whew doggy, 800 rounds.  I have about 500 rounds of .223 I've been sitting on, I guess this will be as good a time as any.  Time to start buying more.

Thats nothing.  The 3 day course is 1,250 rounds.  And these are the reduced course requirements too.