Ain't the best, but more than we had before when you could be held civially liable even if no criminal charges were ever brought against you for the death or injury of the bad guy.....

Roger That HiCarry !

Back to the topic....For those that have already applied (and maybe I missed this somewhere else...) what's the deal with fingerprints? Does HPD do them when you complete the application? Or do you have to bring them in from somewhere?

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What exactly do we need to take with us ? 
Passport photos, etc.
And do we need our reason for request prepared ? 

The day I went, started to fill out the forms and then had to evacuate the building so I don't recall if had to do prints or not.  Either way they will do them there if you don't have an approved print card already.  As I recall the form was oriented toward to those applying for security guard or LEO positions so submitting a letter of explanation makes sense.  As always have your ID ready.  Another thing is have a copy of the handgun registration for the firearm you select to carry.  That's about it.  Thank you all for your efforts!

The day I went, started to fill out the forms and then had to evacuate the building so I don't recall if had to do prints or not.  Either way they will do them there if you don't have an approved print card already.  As I recall the form was oriented toward to those applying for security guard or LEO positions so submitting a letter of explanation makes sense.  As always have your ID ready.  Another thing is have a copy of the handgun registration for the firearm you select to carry.  That's about it.  Thank you all for your efforts!

Is it going to matter if I do not have a hand gun?

Is it going to matter if I do not have a hand gun?

In this state yes, the egg comes before the chicken (or was it the other way ).  They want to know exactly which firearm you intend to carry.  Another sort of restriction but it is what it is.

FWIW,  in the early '70s, I did see the permits of CCW that was issued.

The ID cards took up about 2/3 of a shoe box.  Yep, that's how they were stored.

According to C & C "rules" all Tests (including CCW) are supposed to be Public Record

and Available to the Public at the City Clerks Office.

Again, I did get to see the entire test.  Should have gotten a complete set when I did.

HPD later pulled everything related to CCW.

Later, I did try to get a copy thru my friend at the Mayor's Office and my City Councilperson.

NOPE, HPD wasn't going to release anything because CCW is NOT issued so no NEED to see test and other info.

What is Needed is to change the law to SHALL ISSUE from MAY Issue.

We Need to convince a handful of legislators on our side to introduce same bills in Senate and House.

Watch Every LE organization in Hawaii show up and Testify Against Shall Issue.

We NEED to fill the hearing room with Pro 2a testimony.  Flood the Fax and Email with Pro Shall Issue testimony.

Even if we don't get it the first time, having 100s of Pro testimony will be noticed.

You want to get their attention, get 200 Women out protesting for Shall Issue in the Capitol Rotunda.

I understand that's how Alaska got theirs.

Thanks for the history and suggestions Old Guy! 

update:   At the moment seeking O'ahu residents for this.  (The B.I. is covered and if successful "the other 2 issuing islands will have to follow suit").

(This is not to discourage other county residents to apply for an O'ahu license (or vice versa), in case of travel here.  Our crime rate sure to be much higher than your home island so the need for protection is still there but getting off the subject slightly.)

FWIW,  in the early '70s, I did see the permits of CCW that was issued.

The ID cards took up about 2/3 of a shoe box.  Yep, that's how they were stored.

According to C & C "rules" all Tests (including CCW) are supposed to be Public Record

and Available to the Public at the City Clerks Office.

Again, I did get to see the entire test.  Should have gotten a complete set when I did.

HPD later pulled everything related to CCW.

Later, I did try to get a copy thru my friend at the Mayor's Office and my City Councilperson.

NOPE, HPD wasn't going to release anything because CCW is NOT issued so no NEED to see test and other info.

What is Needed is to change the law to SHALL ISSUE from MAY Issue.

We Need to convince a handful of legislators on our side to introduce same bills in Senate and House.

Watch Every LE organization in Hawaii show up and Testify Against Shall Issue.

We NEED to fill the hearing room with Pro 2a testimony.  Flood the Fax and Email with Pro Shall Issue testimony.

Even if we don't get it the first time, having 100s of Pro testimony will be noticed.

You want to get their attention, get 200 Women out protesting for Shall Issue in the Capitol Rotunda.

I understand that's how Alaska got theirs.

Old Guy,

Why not start an sign up sheet specific to this purpose to get a list of people who could be mobilized at a moments notice when this thing comes up in the legislature?

The email sign up sheet should also be a pledge to show up and testify for this one specific purpose if this ever comes up.

If you'd like to do this, I can assist with setting up an electronic sign up sheet.

can I apply to CCW my AR?

Ain't the best, but more than we had before when you could be held civially liable even if no criminal charges were ever brought against you for the death or injury of the bad guy.....

Back to the topic....For those that have already applied (and maybe I missed this somewhere else...) what's the deal with fingerprints? Does HPD do them when you complete the application? Or do you have to bring them in from somewhere?

On Maui MPD takes your prints when you apply. Even for just a long gun license. Sure it would be the same for HPD too.

I would like to see all hand gun owners apply for a CCW, as the police chief starts to reject thousands of applications out of hand and for no good reason, that could be the basis of a case, it would definitely make the news.

2aHawaii could make available a PDF version of each Islands CCW form and request that those downloading the form keep 2a apprised of their progress and results.  The information on the numbers could be posted on 2a so that we can all see the progress or lack there of.

Since most people have given up on applying, because of the certanty of being denied, the issue isn't getting much attention, but that would change if they started getting thousands of applications and then rejecting 100% of them.  Then they would have to explain how the very same pool that they get their police officers from is not to be trusted with a CCW.

Would be great if this bill ever got any traction....many Hawaii gun owners would be carrying, so long as they have a valid CCW from another state.

On August 1, 2013, U.S. Reps. Rich Nugent (R-Fla.) and Jim Matheson (D- Utah), introduced H.R. 2959, The National Right to Carry Reciprocity Act. This NRA-backed legislation would allow any person with a valid concealed carry permit to carry a concealed firearm in any other state that issues concealed firearm permits or does not prohibit the carrying of concealed firearms. A state's laws governing where concealed firearms may be carried would still apply to all within its borders. Similar legislation to H.R. 2959 passed the U.S. House of Representatives in the 112th Congress by an overwhelming bipartisan vote of 272-154.

Doesn't hurt to contact our U.S. Representative's to voice our support and ask them to support H.R. 2959, albeit I already know they don't support it. Contact information can be found using the "Write Your Representatives" feature at www.NRAILA.org. Additional information can be found at www.NRAILA.org.

I'm with hawaiirog. Make a template and I will apply and inform 2@ of the results. Anyone else in

On Maui MPD takes your prints when you apply. Even for just a long gun license. Sure it would be the same for HPD too.

Assuming HPD in this case is Honolulu Police Department, then the answer is no.  They will print you for the mandatory FBI background check, but they will not print you for a CCW application, or any voluntary reason.  You are responsible for obtaining a filled fingerprint card, and it has to be the old-school ink version, not a contemporary scanned version.

Wish it were easy to get a ccw here..hi is actually worse than ca in that aspect. They can obtain a ccw in a lot counties by the sheriff but the process is long.

Hey folks, I had an idea. What if we have a random drawing and award the winner or winners a free firearm (I say a 500 dollar max each firearm). This drawing should be done from the folks that signed up for mobilization/ participation in a Concealed carry list we discused here. Hell, I might even buy (one lol) said firearm. I mean depending on the number of folks signing up chances of winning might be high! We could even have lesser prized of upgrades/ parts/ mags. I also had a though how about we start a new discussion and just have folks down for the cause list things like name maybe phone number, ect so in the event we need to meet to argue for or against  legislation we can get in touch with folks better. Why not ask folks backing CCW to sign a petion. I can make the post if desired just let me know guys! :)p.s. Please leave any suggestions (my ideas arnt the best sometimes lol) thanks!