Do you think they'll allow this at kokohead? (Read 14460 times)

Lifer

Re: Do you think they'll allow this at kokohead?
« Reply #20 on: July 08, 2013, 01:22:40 PM »
Very nice setup.

I like the other ideas, snowman style; 3 squares or circles hanging from each other. >:D

GZire

Re: Do you think they'll allow this at kokohead?
« Reply #21 on: July 08, 2013, 01:56:34 PM »
Very nice setup.

I like the other ideas, snowman style; 3 squares or circles hanging from each other. >:D

How about two circles and a rectangle between them?

mauiblue

Re: Do you think they'll allow this at kokohead?
« Reply #22 on: July 08, 2013, 08:41:49 PM »
Look at the history of Hawaii's legislature, and you will understand.  :rofl: :shake:

That still doesn't answer my question. At Ukumehame on Maui silhouette targets are allowed. I've got even some bad guy poster targets and no range officers made any issues.

bighoks

Re: Do you think they'll allow this at kokohead?
« Reply #23 on: July 08, 2013, 10:09:40 PM »
That's a cool setup you got there

Kingkeoni

Re: Do you think they'll allow this at kokohead?
« Reply #24 on: July 09, 2013, 06:56:56 AM »
Could you guys please enlighten me why silhouette targets are not allowed at Kokohead? Thanks.

I believe that the reasoning for this is that they (idiots that run this state) believe that shooting at a silhouette gives people the feeling that you are training to kill someone, but shooting at a circle or square means you're not.


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Re: Do you think they'll allow this at kokohead?
« Reply #25 on: July 09, 2013, 03:43:39 PM »
I believe that the reasoning for this is that they (idiots that run this state) believe that shooting at a silhouette gives people the feeling that you are training to kill someone, but shooting at a circle or square means you're not.


Otay, whudeber you shay mommy.  :rofl:

Lol this. And  the rule you cant put targets above each other on the handgun side because it simulates a body and headshot... ??? Lol just shoot below the target and then your real target.  what else am I training at the range for haha?  And you can stack them on the rifle side though?... ???

dirsh

Re: Do you think they'll allow this at kokohead?
« Reply #26 on: July 09, 2013, 04:26:58 PM »
Lol this. And  the rule you cant put targets above each other on the handgun side because it simulates a body and headshot... ??? Lol just shoot below the target and then your real target.  what else am I training at the range for haha?  And you can stack them on the rifle side though?... ???

I always thought it was because they want people shooting straight and not at all kinds of angles  (prevent ricochets?)
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Re: Do you think they'll allow this at kokohead?
« Reply #27 on: July 09, 2013, 04:44:35 PM »
I always thought it was because they want people shooting straight and not at all kinds of angles  (prevent ricochets?)

Yeah, like more than half the people aren't hitting all around their targets at odd angles anyway!!  :rofl:    :wacko:
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« Reply #28 on: July 09, 2013, 05:46:25 PM »
lol true
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Re: Do you think they'll allow this at kokohead?
« Reply #29 on: July 09, 2013, 07:46:55 PM »
Thanks kingkeoni for the reply to my post. Looks like it's quite strict at Kokohead. :-(

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« Reply #30 on: July 09, 2013, 08:36:51 PM »
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Re: Do you think they'll allow this at kokohead?
« Reply #31 on: July 10, 2013, 01:19:49 AM »
prior to and during WWII, service members initially trained with bull's eye targets. It was later revealed that by doing so, it did not prepare the men for the psychological effects of having to shoot an actual person, which resulted in men literally freezing up or completely going bat shit crazy after firefights.

I can only assume that the state cronies don't want anyone shooting at 'real' targets because they think it will make individuals 'comfortable' with shooting human beings, which give law enforcement the upper hand should some type of armed altercation take place.

If that's the case, it has already been proven by experts that games like COD can psychological condition and prepare an individual to kill far more than shooting at a silhouette can, so the argument that 'shooting at silhouettes makes people more prone to killing other people' is dumb; just like almost every other gun law in Hawaii.

I don't believe it's a matter of conditioning people to shoot another person.  I think silhouette training creates an automatic reaction to shoot center of mass.  Unless the attacker/enemy wears a bulls eye on his shirt, you need to practice shooting where you would on a live target.

I can see where shooting a silhouette can psychologically create a conditioned response, where you automatically draw and fire without having to stop to think what to do.  But, making you more or less inclined to kill another human being?  That's something that involves so many variables, I can't imagine the mental programming required to turn someone into a merciless killer if they weren't that way to begin with.  Shooting a human-shaped target doesn't cover a fraction of those variables!
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