Hpd hacked rumor? (Read 1282 times)

MrJones

Hpd hacked rumor?
« on: January 02, 2024, 02:37:24 PM »
Heard a rumor that Hpd got hacked? Anyone else hear that?
  What would happen if they did get hacked and their database got deleted ?

Dr Jones

changemyoil66

Re: Hpd hacked rumor?
« Reply #1 on: January 02, 2024, 03:16:17 PM »
If its reg, then every gun owner will have to go in person and re-register

oldfart

Re: Hpd hacked rumor?
« Reply #2 on: January 02, 2024, 03:44:36 PM »
 :thumbsup:
What, Me Worry?

MrJones

Re: Hpd hacked rumor?
« Reply #3 on: January 02, 2024, 04:18:17 PM »
Did they get rid of all the paper copies, microfilm?

Jones

Flapp_Jackson

Re: Hpd hacked rumor?
« Reply #4 on: January 02, 2024, 04:35:53 PM »
Impossible!  We have laws that prevent crimes like this!

"How can you diagnose someone with an obsessive-compulsive disorder
and then act as though I had some choice about barging in?"
-- Melvin Udall

QUIETShooter

Re: Hpd hacked rumor?
« Reply #5 on: January 06, 2024, 02:36:35 PM »
Great news. :thumbsup:
Sometimes you gotta know when to save your bullets.

MrJones

Re: Hpd hacked rumor?
« Reply #6 on: January 06, 2024, 06:53:20 PM »
I personally don’t think it’s true. HPD database probably pretty well protected, figure hackers would have a hard time.

Dr Jones

QUIETShooter

Re: Hpd hacked rumor?
« Reply #7 on: January 07, 2024, 08:44:14 AM »
I personally don’t think it’s true. HPD database probably pretty well protected, figure hackers would have a hard time.

Dr Jones

I hope it's true.  Registration = confiscation.
Sometimes you gotta know when to save your bullets.

Flapp_Jackson

Re: Hpd hacked rumor?
« Reply #8 on: January 07, 2024, 09:30:49 AM »
Quote
Security Breach of Personal Information

It is the policy of the Honolulu Police Department
(HPD) to comply with all statutory requirements in
the event of a security breach of personal information.

APPLICABILITY

A. This procedure shall be initiated if a
security breach occurs involving personal information
(e.g., a laptop or thumb drive containing police
reports with personal information is lost or
stolen or a database containing personal information is hacked).

B. In the event of a security breach of personal
information, the HPD is required, as a government
agency that collects personal information for
specific government purposes, to provide notice
to the affected persons that there has been a
security breach following discovery or notification of the breach.


DEFINITIONS

A. Encryption or encrypted: the use of an
algorithmic process to transform data into
a form in which the data is rendered unreadable
or unusable without the use of a confidential process or key.

B. Personal information: an individual’s first
name or first initial and last name in combination
with any one or more of the following when either
the name or the following are not encrypted:

   1. Social security number;

   2. Driver’s license number or Hawaii State Identification Card number; or

   3. Account number, credit or debit card number, access
       code, or password that would permit access to an
       individual’s financial account.

“Personal information” does not include publicly
available information that is lawfully made
available to the general public from federal, state,
or local government records.

C. Records: any material on which written, drawn,
spoken, visual, or electromagnetic information is
recorded or preserved, regardless of physical form or characteristics.

D. Security breach: an incident of unauthorized
access to and acquisition of unencrypted or unredacted
records or data containing personal information where
illegal use of the personal information has occurred
or is reasonably likely to occur and that creates a risk of harm to a person.

Any incident of unauthorized access to and acquisition
of encrypted records or data containing personal
information along with the confidential process or
key constitutes a security breach. Good faith
acquisition of personal information by an employee
or agent of the HPD for a legitimate purpose is not
a security breach, provided that the personal
information is not used for a purpose other than
a lawful purpose of the HPD and is not subject to
further unauthorized disclosure.

PROCEDURE

A. Personnel shall immediately notify their
commander upon the discovery or notification
that a security breach has occurred.

B. Upon discovery or notification of the
security breach, disclosure notification shall
immediately be made to the affected person.


   1. Required notice shall be delayed if notification
       may impede a criminal investigation or jeopardize national security.

   2. If such a delay is required, it shall be
       documented in writing to include the name of
       the law enforcement officer making the request
       and the division engaged in the investigation.

   3. Notice shall be immediately provided once it
       is determined that the notice will no longer
       impede the investigation or jeopardize national security.

C. The notice shall be clear (see Attachment 1
for a sample notice) and shall include the following information:

   1. The incident in general terms;

   2. The type of personal information that was
       subject to unauthorized access and acquisition;

   3. The general steps taken to protect the personal
       information from further unauthorized access;

   4. A telephone number that the person may call
       for further information and assistance, if one exists; and

   5. Advice that directs the person to remain
       vigilant by reviewing account statements and monitoring free credit reports.

D. Notice to affected persons may be provided by one of the following methods:

   1. A written notice to the last available address on record via certified mail;

   2. An electronic mail notice if the HPD is in
       possession of a valid electronic mail address
       and if the person has agreed to receive
       communications electronically from the HPD;

   3. Telephonic notice, provided that the contact
       is made directly with the affected person; and

   4. Substitute notice under specific conditions.

       a. Substitute notice shall only be allowed if:

           (1) The cost of providing notice would exceed $100,000;

           (2) The affected class of subject persons to
                 be notified exceeds 200,000 persons;

           (3) The HPD does not have sufficient contact
                 information for or consent from the affected
                 person. In this case, it may be used for only that affected person; or

           (4) The HPD is unable to identify a particular
                 affected person. In this case, it may be used
                 for only that unidentifiable person.

       b. Substitute notice shall consist of ALL of the following:

           (1) An electronic mail notice when the HPD has
                 an electronic mail address for the subject person;

           (2) Conspicuous posting of the notice on the HPD Internet Web site; and

           (3) Notification to major statewide media.

E. The commander of the element that is responsible
for the breach or the focal point of the breach
shall oversee the drafting and issuance of the notice.

F. The commander of the element that is
responsible for the breach or the focal
point of the breach shall prepare a written
report to the Legislature within
20 days after discovery of the security
breach. The written report shall contain
the following information:

   1. Detailed information relating to the nature of the breach;

   2. The number of individuals affected by the breach;

   3. A copy of the notice of security breach that was issued;

   4. The number of individuals to whom the notice was sent;

   5. Whether the notice was delayed due to law enforcement considerations; and

   6. Any procedures that have been implemented to
       prevent the breach from reoccurring.

If notification to the Legislature may impede
a criminal investigation or jeopardize national
security, the report to the Legislature may be
delayed until 20 days after it has been determined
that notice will no longer impede the investigation
or jeopardize national security.

G. The report shall be submitted via the
element’s chain of command for approval
and transmitted to the Legislature through
the Legislative Liaison Office.

H. The report to the Legislature shall be
in letter form and addressed to the Speaker
of the House of Representatives and the President
of the Senate (see Attachment 2).

https://www.honolulupd.org/policy/policy-security-breach-of-personal-information/
"How can you diagnose someone with an obsessive-compulsive disorder
and then act as though I had some choice about barging in?"
-- Melvin Udall

rpoL98

Re: Hpd hacked rumor?
« Reply #9 on: January 07, 2024, 10:20:31 AM »
sounds like a similar scenario to what happened in the 80's or 90's when the basement of the old HPD police station got flooded and all the old registrations were lost to paper mache, supposedly.  I forgot the name of that street where the HQ was.

flaboy808

Re: Hpd hacked rumor?
« Reply #10 on: January 08, 2024, 10:26:58 AM »
I personally don’t think it’s true. HPD database probably pretty well protected, figure hackers would have a hard time.

Dr Jones

You’re kidding right?  Here’s a very short list of systems that were “protected” but still got hacked…

… Kronos;
… the Costa Rican government;
… Maerk;
… Swiss port;
… Travelex;
… the UK National Health Service.

These are just the ones we know. Don’t forget the ones that shut down the utility companies AND some city and counties in the U.S. 

Tell me again how HPD  or any other organization isn’t vulnerable.





The Supreme Court has ruled that you, as an individual, have no right to protection by the police. Their only obligation is to protect "society".

Flapp_Jackson

Re: Hpd hacked rumor?
« Reply #11 on: January 08, 2024, 10:40:36 AM »
I personally don’t think it’s true. HPD database probably pretty well protected, figure hackers would have a hard time.

Dr Jones

The Honolulu Board or Water Supply and other "pretty well protected" systems with health-related personal info were "hacked," so HPD is not immune.

The #1 form of hacking of high profile servers is ransom-ware.  It happens most often when a user with access to the system opens an email attachment, clicks a link, etc. that installs a malicious piece of code.  This allows the hacker to encrypt and hold hostage the organization's information with a demand of payment.

Was your info compromised whether or not the organization paid the hackers?  If they have enough access to encrypt all that data, it's more likely they would have also downloaded it to market it to ID thieves and other criminals.  Just because the ransom was paid in no way guarantees your info was not compromised.

It only takes one complacent user to open the door.  How well a system is secured is often irrelevent.

The question is not ,"Can that system be hacked?"  The question is, "How long do you want to be down before recovery WHEN that system is hacked?"  Backups are the #1 safeguard against all types of hacks.  Wipe the systems, restore the backup from before the infection, and punish the user that opened the door.
"How can you diagnose someone with an obsessive-compulsive disorder
and then act as though I had some choice about barging in?"
-- Melvin Udall

changemyoil66

Re: Hpd hacked rumor?
« Reply #12 on: January 08, 2024, 11:34:43 AM »


It only takes one complacent user to open the door.  How well a system is secured is often irrelevent.

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Thats how MGM got hacked. They posed as an employee cause they had his public linkd info.

changemyoil66

Re: Hpd hacked rumor?
« Reply #13 on: January 08, 2024, 11:36:21 AM »
The fact that our socials are on our paper registrations, which is 1 way to meet the CCW requirement about proof of registration. Means people will have their social and DOB in their pockets/wallets.

macsak

Re: Hpd hacked rumor?
« Reply #14 on: January 08, 2024, 12:20:01 PM »
whoa
flabby808 returns!

 :wave: :worship: :shake: :rofl: :crazy: :shaka: :geekdanc: :thumbsup: O0 >:D

You’re kidding right?  Here’s a very short list of systems that were “protected” but still got hacked…

… Kronos;
… the Costa Rican government;
… Maerk;
… Swiss port;
… Travelex;
… the UK National Health Service.

These are just the ones we know. Don’t forget the ones that shut down the utility companies AND some city and counties in the U.S. 

Tell me again how HPD  or any other organization isn’t vulnerable.

MrJones

Re: Hpd hacked rumor?
« Reply #15 on: January 09, 2024, 07:48:06 PM »
Maybe HPD is vulnerable, but the hackers see no purpose or challenge.

Dr Jones

hvybarrels

Re: Hpd hacked rumor?
« Reply #16 on: January 09, 2024, 07:50:56 PM »
Maybe HPD is vulnerable, but the hackers see no purpose or challenge.

Dr Jones

Most institutions quietly pay the ransom and pretend like nothing happened
“Wars happen when the government tells you who the enemy is. Revolutions happen when you figure it out for yourselves.”

changemyoil66

Re: Hpd hacked rumor?
« Reply #17 on: January 09, 2024, 08:12:00 PM »
Most institutions quietly pay the ransom and pretend like nothing happened
Like Ceasars.

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Flapp_Jackson

Re: Hpd hacked rumor?
« Reply #18 on: January 09, 2024, 09:39:53 PM »
Maybe HPD is vulnerable, but the hackers see no purpose or challenge.

Dr Jones

Wait.  First, you said:

HPD database probably pretty well protected, figure hackers would have a hard time.

Now you are saying:

the hackers see no purpose or challenge.

it can't be both.  Either it's a challenge (well protected), or it's too easy (no challenge).

You're contradicting yourself, I believe.
"How can you diagnose someone with an obsessive-compulsive disorder
and then act as though I had some choice about barging in?"
-- Melvin Udall