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General Topics => Legal and Activism => Topic started by: Q on September 03, 2013, 12:02:24 PM
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Once upon a time, there was such a thing as a home FFL. That's more-or-less disappeared. While people who had them were grandfathered, if you want to get a FFL today, you must have a storefront and keep hours.
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Once upon a time, there was such a thing as a home FFL. That's more-or-less disappeared. While people who had them were grandfathered, if you want to get a FFL today, you must have a storefront and keep hours.
That's true.
A few years ago when I 1st started to get into guns I wanted to compare prices for FFL fees.
Well this is what I came upon,
one was working out of a self-storage bldg,
another was in a home in a sub division,
another was from a paint shop,
another I could not find, but it was a dead end street.
But what I did find was that, prices were really varied.
* I finally settled on one that charges me only 20.00, and it is not a gun shop.
** I know one that advertises 10.00, but I have yet to utilize that FFL dealer.
Don't need it at this place in time.
One day.
It has taught me to "shop around."
* Has a store front.
** Is a LGS
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Once upon a time, there was such a thing as a home FFL. That's more-or-less disappeared. While people who had them were grandfathered, if you want to get a FFL today, you must have a storefront and keep hours.
I don't really know about the keep hours, but commercial front yes.
ATF has no restrictions other than lock them up (from the what the ATF told me over the phone). City and County may have some in the licensing branch, but they did say they have some guys who do internet sales.
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* per personal request for info...
http://www.fflclick.com/STATES/HI.htm (http://www.fflclick.com/STATES/HI.htm)
FFLCLICK.COM
Federal Firearms License Holders
HAWAII
Maebo’s - See Transfer fee: $20.00 long guns
http://npfirearms.com/ (http://npfirearms.com/)
NP Firearms
FFL fee $10.00? See below 14th Q down.
• Home /FAQ #14
• Q: Can I transfer a firearm I purchased elsewhere to your store?
• A: Yes, please read below:
• 1. All transfers cost $10.00 flat rate
• 2. You must let us know in advance regarding the shipping party, and the detailed firearm information.
• 3. If you are transferring to our store an illegal firearm or firearm item, we will surrender it to the County Police Department.
• 4. In order to assume possession of a transferred firearm, you must provide us with a valid permit to acquire, and photo ID.
• 5. Firearms sent to our store without prior notification and/or payment will be held.
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Thanks for the info 1422lr to bad they are located in Hilo
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I wonder if this was a kitchen table FFL. Chased the women to the Phillipines even.
http://thepolicenews.net/default.aspx/act/newsletter.aspx/category/News+1-2/MenuGroup/Home/NewsLetterID/39661/startrow/34.htm (http://thepolicenews.net/default.aspx/act/newsletter.aspx/category/News+1-2/MenuGroup/Home/NewsLetterID/39661/startrow/34.htm)
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From the instructions for ATF F 5310.12 (Form 7):
To receive a license as a dealer (including pawnbrokers & gunsmiths), importer, or manufacturer of firearms, you must intend to engage in a firearms business.
From page 1 of the form:
5. Business Address
(RFD or street number, city, State, and ZIP code) (NOTE: The business address CANNOT be a P.O. Box.
From page 2 of the form:
13. Hours of Operation of Applicant's Business
(Must be completed)
Also from page 2:
8a. Do You Intend To Sell Firearms Only at Gun Shows? Yes No
(If yes, do not submit application)
19. Do You Intend to Use Your License Only to Acquire Personal Firearms? Yes No
(If yes, do not submit application.)
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My friend had a 01 FFL
He had a store front in Kalihi.
He only sold 3 guns a year because it was his secondary business......ATF took his license away. Told him he had to sell at least 5 a month
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From the instructions for ATF F 5310.12 (Form 7):
From page 1 of the form:
From page 2 of the form:
Also from page 2:
You don't need business hours for the ATF. I was very close to participating in setting up a FFL for procurement for government contracts since my friend and I both have good vet statutes. We spoke with the ATF; there would be no hours, no real storefront that people could visit - ever (just a storage building in a commercial area). This was not a problem with them.