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Title: Random Talk Thread
Post by: BLKDRGN on October 21, 2013, 09:59:54 AM
Just a thread to talk about random gun related things.
Title: Re: Random Talk Thread
Post by: BLKDRGN on October 21, 2013, 10:05:33 AM
I went to SRGC yesterday to take the free 101 defensive class. It was pretty fun using holsters and slings. I learned a lot and I would recommend it everyone. We also learned how to deal with jammed firearms. We used handguns, tactical rifles, and shotguns.

I also tried out my friends Double Tap .45 hangun. Stupid recoil hurts so much that my hand is really bruised. It's hit's like 2 as hard than my .50 AE Desert Eagle. Also tried out his UTS 15. That was very fun and suprisingly super light. Way lighter than my Remington 1100.
Title: Re: Random Talk Thread
Post by: macsak on October 21, 2013, 10:11:08 AM
were you a member or a guest?

I went to SRGC yesterday to take the free 101 defensive class. It was pretty fun using holsters and slings. I learned a lot and I would recommend it everyone. We also learned how to deal with jammed firearms. We used handguns, tactical rifles, and shotguns.

I also tried out my friends Double Tap .45 hangun. Stupid recoil hurts so much that my hand is really bruised. It's hit's like 2 as hard than my .50 AE Desert Eagle. Also tried out his UTS 15. That was very fun and suprisingly super light. Way lighter than my Remington 1100.
Title: Re: Random Talk Thread
Post by: BLKDRGN on October 21, 2013, 10:17:19 AM
were you a member or a guest?

I'm a member. My wife and I took the defensive class. Someone brought a Saiga to that class which people got to try out. I brought my DE but only one person wanted to try it out. Great thing was after the class we were able to stay late until 4:30 since we had a special guest from Japan. That's when I got to try out the UTS and double tap. They also brought out their brand new AX .338. I can't remember the brands but the scope was like $4k and the spotting scope was $2k.
Title: Re: Random Talk Thread
Post by: BLKDRGN on October 21, 2013, 10:20:25 AM
Oh and special thanks to Dex from X-ring. Traded my stock 10/22 triggers for some special parts that are not released yet.
Title: Re: Random Talk Thread
Post by: BLKDRGN on October 21, 2013, 10:28:33 AM
Checked out StarAdvertiser this morning and had three shootings.

Nevada school shooting
http://www.staradvertiser.com/news/breaking/228636901.html?id=228636901 (http://www.staradvertiser.com/news/breaking/228636901.html?id=228636901)

Nevada Vegas strip shooting
http://www.staradvertiser.com/news/breaking/228622881.html?id=228622881 (http://www.staradvertiser.com/news/breaking/228622881.html?id=228622881)

Nevada golf course shooting
http://www.staradvertiser.com/news/breaking/20131020_Man_pleads_guilty_to_shooting_golfer_who_hit_home.html?id=228557111 (http://www.staradvertiser.com/news/breaking/20131020_Man_pleads_guilty_to_shooting_golfer_who_hit_home.html?id=228557111)
Title: Re: Random Talk Thread
Post by: macsak on October 21, 2013, 11:08:19 AM
are guests allowed to take the defensive class, or is it members only?

I'm a member. My wife and I took the defensive class. Someone brought a Saiga to that class which people got to try out. I brought my DE but only one person wanted to try it out. Great thing was after the class we were able to stay late until 4:30 since we had a special guest from Japan. That's when I got to try out the UTS and double tap. They also brought out their brand new AX .338. I can't remember the brands but the scope was like $4k and the spotting scope was $2k.
Title: Re: Random Talk Thread
Post by: BLKDRGN on October 21, 2013, 11:22:31 AM
are guests allowed to take the defensive class, or is it members only?

Guests can take the class as long as there is a member to sponsor. The 101 class is geared more towards safety than full on defensive tactical training. They teach how to properly handle your firearm when using holsters and slings. I'm assuming the next class is more tactical training.

After the class is when I practiced fast draw with my tactical rifle. Ex quickly drop my magazine and reload, fire 3 rapid shots, drop mag and reload... IMO this will help train you for real combat situations. A criminal will not allow you to take your time to fire or reload.
Title: Re: Random Talk Thread
Post by: macsak on October 21, 2013, 11:27:20 AM
golf course shooting was last year
plead guilty this week

Checked out StarAdvertiser this morning and had three shootings.

Nevada school shooting
http://www.staradvertiser.com/news/breaking/228636901.html?id=228636901 (http://www.staradvertiser.com/news/breaking/228636901.html?id=228636901)

Nevada Vegas strip shooting
http://www.staradvertiser.com/news/breaking/228622881.html?id=228622881 (http://www.staradvertiser.com/news/breaking/228622881.html?id=228622881)

Nevada golf course shooting
http://www.staradvertiser.com/news/breaking/20131020_Man_pleads_guilty_to_shooting_golfer_who_hit_home.html?id=228557111 (http://www.staradvertiser.com/news/breaking/20131020_Man_pleads_guilty_to_shooting_golfer_who_hit_home.html?id=228557111)
Title: Re: Random Talk Thread
Post by: macsak on October 21, 2013, 11:27:56 AM
ok, thanks
i have a friend that has been going as a guest, but was out of town this weekend

Guests can take the class as long as there is a member to sponsor. The 101 class is geared more towards safety than full on defensive tactical training. They teach how to properly handle your firearm when using holsters and slings. I'm assuming the next class is more tactical training.

After the class is when I practiced fast draw with my tactical rifle. Ex quickly drop my magazine and reload, fire 3 rapid shots, drop mag and reload... IMO this will help train you for real combat situations. A criminal will not allow you to take your time to fire or reload.
Title: Re: Random Talk Thread
Post by: dirsh on October 21, 2013, 11:38:52 AM
I've been wanting to join for a while. How's the wait list for civilian members?
Title: Re: Random Talk Thread
Post by: fang23 on October 21, 2013, 11:46:08 AM
Checked out StarAdvertiser this morning and had three shootings.

Nevada school shooting
http://www.staradvertiser.com/news/breaking/228636901.html?id=228636901 (http://www.staradvertiser.com/news/breaking/228636901.html?id=228636901)

Nevada Vegas strip shooting
http://www.staradvertiser.com/news/breaking/228622881.html?id=228622881 (http://www.staradvertiser.com/news/breaking/228622881.html?id=228622881)

Nevada golf course shooting
http://www.staradvertiser.com/news/breaking/20131020_Man_pleads_guilty_to_shooting_golfer_who_hit_home.html?id=228557111 (http://www.staradvertiser.com/news/breaking/20131020_Man_pleads_guilty_to_shooting_golfer_who_hit_home.html?id=228557111)

I'm waiting for Sen. Barbara Boxer to propose a ban on  Nevada. Oh, wait. Senate majority leader Harry Reid is from Nevada. Never mind.
Title: Re: Random Talk Thread
Post by: BLKDRGN on October 21, 2013, 11:47:45 AM
I've been wanting to join for a while. How's the wait list for civilian members?

I really don't know but best is to just apply during the monthly meetings. Check out their website SRGC Hawaii. All I know is that there is something like 500 members but only like up to 30 people showed up in the last few months each time to shoot.
Title: Re: Random Talk Thread
Post by: BLKDRGN on October 21, 2013, 12:08:23 PM
For anyone who wants to join SRGC Hawaii. Anyone correct me if I'm wrong.

1. Bring lots of ammo. You can easily do 100 rounds in about 30 minutes.
2. Bring chairs and shade if you want to rest. There is no cover in the area where you shoot.
3. There is more than enough space. It's the size of Koko from pistol to silloutte side.
4. Bring drinks.
5. Bring a huge tarp or net. You have to pickup every shell and account for it.
6. Be prepared to clean your weapons cause it's going to get dirty from red dirt and grass.
7. Bring a cart if want. It's a long walk if they do not allow you to park temporally to drop your gear off.
8. Do not speed anywhere on base.
9. Bring fun targets like the orange ones you see at Sports Authority
10. Bring pistols and rifles since you can shoot both
11. Cannot shoot anything above 7.62
12. Your frame targets need to be weighed down or staked since it can get windy.
13. Use of holsters and slings are allowed
14. Fast fire is allowed per RSO rules
15. Bring sun screen. It can get blazing hot. A hat is recommended
Title: Re: Random Talk Thread
Post by: BLKDRGN on October 21, 2013, 12:25:30 PM
I read this from another forum. One of the guys was saying what would you rather face, a person with a AR15 or a knife? The other person comes back and says neither but if I had to choose I'd rather face him with my own rifle or handgun than be unarmed.

Title: Re: Random Talk Thread
Post by: 338KID on October 21, 2013, 12:44:36 PM
I'm a member. My wife and I took the defensive class. Someone brought a Saiga to that class which people got to try out. I brought my DE but only one person wanted to try it out. Great thing was after the class we were able to stay late until 4:30 since we had a special guest from Japan. That's when I got to try out the UTS and double tap. They also brought out their brand new AX .338. I can't remember the brands but the scope was like $4k and the spotting scope was $2k.

Schmidt & Bender P4F scope and leuppy mk4 20-60x80 spotting scope
Title: Re: Random Talk Thread
Post by: BLKDRGN on October 21, 2013, 02:02:03 PM
Schmidt & Bender P4F scope and leuppy mk4 20-60x80 spotting scope

Where you there?
Title: Re: Random Talk Thread
Post by: BLKDRGN on October 21, 2013, 02:03:33 PM
MidwayUSA Sweepstakes

RX-1000 Laser Rangefinder
BX-4 McKinley HD Binocular
VX-3 Rifle Scope 3.5-10x 40mm & More

http://www.midwayusa.com/sweepstakes (http://www.midwayusa.com/sweepstakes)
Title: Re: Random Talk Thread
Post by: 338KID on October 21, 2013, 02:04:38 PM
Where you there?
No I know them . I originally ordered that ax338 but opted out of the quick adjustments.
Title: Re: Random Talk Thread
Post by: hnl.flyboy on October 22, 2013, 12:20:12 AM
Just a thread to talk about random gun related things.

So, I went to Kona this past Friday-Sunday.  My friend told me she "...only had $200 to spend on ammo," and i figured, "Holy crap, that's a lot of ammo!"  Ammo was purchased on Friday before my 6:30pm arrival, as the shops would be closed on the weekend.  Turns out that in Kona, $200 worth of ammo comes out to 50 rounds of steel cased .45ACP, 50 rounds of .38Spl,  60 rounds of steel cased .223, 50 rounds of steel cased 9x19, and a 325 round box of Federal Automatch .22lr ( the one 325 round box of .22lr cost $44, and I believe the box of 9x19 was $24).  Dear God, I never thought I'd ever feel bad about bringing guns for friends to shoot, but I felt terrible for having them spend so much for ammo!

I was able to bring 60 rounds of Lake City M855, two bricks of American Eagle .22lr, and a box of some 9x19 so we were able to shoot a little more.  I ended up leaving all the leftovers behind (just 30 M855 and a brick and box of .22lr) since I have more access on Oahu and still have a press at home.

I've maybe bought 4 boxes total of various calibers since before the scare, so I'm not used to seeing inflated prices, but geez...The neighbor island guys have it rough!
Title: Re: Random Talk Thread
Post by: BLKDRGN on October 22, 2013, 08:57:39 AM
iPad Air at 1lb or iPad mini with retina display was announced today. These would be great to attach to your spotting scope. I'm not sure but if it does have the slo-mo recording at 120fps that would be great to watch later.
Title: Re: Random Talk Thread
Post by: SugarMan2000 on October 24, 2013, 08:52:58 PM
So, I went to Kona this past Friday-Sunday.  My friend told me she "...only had $200 to spend on ammo," and i figured, "Holy crap, that's a lot of ammo!"  Ammo was purchased on Friday before my 6:30pm arrival, as the shops would be closed on the weekend.  Turns out that in Kona, $200 worth of ammo comes out to 50 rounds of steel cased .45ACP, 50 rounds of .38Spl,  60 rounds of steel cased .223, 50 rounds of steel cased 9x19, and a 325 round box of Federal Automatch .22lr ( the one 325 round box of .22lr cost $44, and I believe the box of 9x19 was $24).  Dear God, I never thought I'd ever feel bad about bringing guns for friends to shoot, but I felt terrible for having them spend so much for ammo!

I was able to bring 60 rounds of Lake City M855, two bricks of American Eagle .22lr, and a box of some 9x19 so we were able to shoot a little more.  I ended up leaving all the leftovers behind (just 30 M855 and a brick and box of .22lr) since I have more access on Oahu and still have a press at home.

I've maybe bought 4 boxes total of various calibers since before the scare, so I'm not used to seeing inflated prices, but geez...The neighbor island guys have it rough!

Yeah Kona side is really expensive. Hilo is a little cheaper but kinda dry on popular calibers.
Title: Re: Random Talk Thread
Post by: BLKDRGN on October 24, 2013, 09:35:36 PM
Would it be cheaper to buy ammo in bulk on Oahu and then ship it back? Is it illegal to bring over ammo from Oahu? Could I bring 1000lbs of ammo in my enclosed trailer and go by boat?
Title: Re: Random Talk Thread
Post by: BLKDRGN on October 24, 2013, 09:39:20 PM
For bolt action such as my Remington 700, am I supposed to store the rifle with the bolt open? What about rifles where if I left it open it would be under spring pressure?
Title: Re: Random Talk Thread
Post by: Jl808 on October 24, 2013, 11:59:42 PM

For bolt action such as my Remington 700, am I supposed to store the rifle with the bolt open? What about rifles where if I left it open it would be under spring pressure?

Why leave the bolt open?  Just curious. I always close mine. Should it be open?
Title: Re: Random Talk Thread
Post by: hnl.flyboy on October 25, 2013, 09:10:07 AM

For bolt action such as my Remington 700, am I supposed to store the rifle with the bolt open? What about rifles where if I left it open it would be under spring pressure?

I always store my guns with bolts closed and action uncocked...
Title: Re: Random Talk Thread
Post by: 230RN on October 25, 2013, 09:44:29 AM
I store mine with the bolt closed and uncocked.  This can be done by pulling the trigger as you allow the bolt to close.  Thus, the firing pin doesn't slam forward.

With my Ruger auto pistols with enclosed hammers, I hold the bolt open about a half inch, pull the trigger and allow the hammer to fall on the back of the bolt rather than the firing pin.  Same with rimfire rifles. This also works well with my 10/22 and with my AR and with Garand-style actions. (M1, M1 Carbine.)

When I lived in an "aggressive" area, I used to keep rifle bolts separate from the rifles.  Some rifle bolts can be uncocked while out of the rifle, but some are a pain in the patootie to re-cock them out of the rifle so you can put them back in the gun.  Without going and getting one and trying it, I seem to recall that with Mannlicher-style bolts (Mosin-Nagant, Carcano), this was nearly impossible.  Also with some Remington .22 bolt rifles.

I recall seeing an authoritative source which said that merely keeping a spring compressed did not harm it, but that constant compression and decompression (as with magazines) was what wore them out.  That's one of those things you remember, but don't remember where you got it from.