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Tools and Uses => Firearms and Accessories => Topic started by: drck1000 on January 26, 2016, 08:00:08 AM
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Anyone own or have personal experience with CZ 75?
I've always been interested in CZ handguns (and to a lesser extent their rifles) and recently have really gotten interested in the CZ 75B and the CZ-75 SP-01. I was watching Hickok45's videos on the CZ 75B (I think it was that variant) and it looked like a very fun gun and good shooter. Well, he makes almost all the guns he shoots look like fun.
Anyways, I recall seeing one here and there, but none of my shooting buddies have one. I would get one mostly for range fun and maybe give it a try in IPSC/USPSA.
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I currently own a cz 75b. Its SAO (single action only) and in 40 s&w. I like it, i like the weight doesnt make it feel like your shooting a 40 s&w feels like a 9mm, ease of take down. Wish i had a sp-01 version for the rail and wish it was double single action. But if you enjoy 1911 style you can have it cocked and locked. Just my 2 cents. I also have a 97b in 45acp. Didnt have much time behind this one though.
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Talk to all these guys.
Apparently they love their CZs.
https://2ahawaii.com/index.php?topic=17260.0
Plus they got some nice ones. :D
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I really like my CZ's. great guns IMO. Some aftermarket parts are available, but not as wide selections as other makes. Mine have been 100% reliable for me so far. Maybe 1000 rounds through my 75B stainless and 500 or so through my 75 compact PROTEK from CZ Custom.
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I currently own a cz 75b. Its SAO (single action only) and in 40 s&w. I like it, i like the weight doesnt make it feel like your shooting a 40 s&w feels like a 9mm, ease of take down. Wish i had a sp-01 version for the rail and wish it was double single action. But if you enjoy 1911 style you can have it cocked and locked. Just my 2 cents. I also have a 97b in 45acp. Didnt have much time behind this one though.
I'm interested in 9 mm single action versions. I think I would be happy with the 75B, but I'm interested in the SP-01 version for the front slide serrations and to a certain extent the rail. If I got the CZ, it would be primarily for range fun, but good to have options.
I saw the pics of your CZs in the threat that aieahound linked. Nice guns! With the cost of 45 ACP, I probably wouldn't have much time behing the 97b as well. :(
Talk to all these guys.
Apparently they love their CZs.
https://2ahawaii.com/index.php?topic=17260.0
Plus they got some nice ones. :D
Thank you for the link! Yeah, they got some nice custom CZs! :thumbsup:
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I really like my CZ's. great guns IMO. Some aftermarket parts are available, but not as wide selections as other makes. Mine have been 100% reliable for me so far. Maybe 1000 rounds through my 75B stainless and 500 or so through my 75 compact PROTEK from CZ Custom.
You've got some nice CZs! I like that they are seemingly pretty reasonably priced and have a darn good reputation. The aftermarket parts availability is a little concerning with regards to sight and holster options. Other than that, I don't intend to tinker much. Though the VZ grips on the PROTEK and the other poster's Copperhead in your other thread are certainly interesting.
Not sure if I'll go down the Cajun Gun Works route, but seems like they do great work!
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Does anyone have experience with the CZ P-09?
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Does anyone have experience with the CZ P-09?
I got one, I like it. Just gotta get used to the trigger so more, there's a little creep. Too used to the 1911 trigger :D. It came with the decocker and manual safety, I put the manual safety in.
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Came across two shooters with CZs over the weekend. Tale of two guns.
One was functioning flawlessly and shooting well to boot (he's a great shooter, so he makes many guns look "great"). Not sure of the variant, but it was described to me as the basic 75 frame with a "tactical slide". Was able to chat with the owner and he did mention his preference for the single action with safety versions and described some additional trigger mechanisms in the DA/SA variants that he didn't like.
The other was having all sorts of feeding issues. Seemed to get stuck from going back into battery by about 1/4" or so and sort of randomly, but often. I had assumed that it was due to reloads, but I found out later that the shooter was running factory ammo. Even the other shooter (above guy) who was also shooting a CZ tried to help out and to no avail. Some suspect it could be due to needing some adjustment in the feedramp and or chamber or recoil spring. No one else shot the gun in question, so couldn't eliminate anything on that regard.
I'll still be on the lookout for a CZ SP-01 in the next 6 months or so. If a nice 75B comes available, I might have to get that one. The more I hear about these guns and see them about, the more I get interested.
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Put in an order for the SP-01 a couple of weeks back. I was told that the wait could be as long as 4-6 months. . . In any case, really looking forward to my first CZ!
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I have a SP01 in 9mm. I thought it had a great trigger at the store so i picked it up immediately. Upon actually shooting it, i found out that there may have been some flashing in the sear causing it to feel like almost 0 creep and light. After about 30rds the actual trigger, while very smooth and light, had what felt like an inch of creep! I couldn't stand it. I had a quick chat with Cajun Gun Works, and orderd the race hammer and adjustable sear. After the install, well, i liked the way it shot before. Now its currently my favorite gun, even more than my beloved Mk3 22/45. I ended up getting the SAO flat trigger, fiber optic front sight, and spring kit as well. While not cheap or a breeze to install, i now use that as my pistol measuring stick. I plan on getting a P07 and getting the race hammer with sear from CGW as well, Dave from CGW told me its even easier to get a fantastic trigger with the new "omega" triggers. So if you've had a chance to shoot a tuned 9mm 1911, its close to my CZ75 SP01. It's essentially a tuned "Shadow", after the trigger work. I never had any issues with mine,besides the trigger. The trigger is probably me being picky. I love my volquartsen trigger 22/45, and my Kimber Custom triggers. So essentially i love crisp single action triggers. I compare the stock DA/SA trigger to my Sig 2340 but lighter. My SP01 comes in at 3lbs 8oz SA and 9lbs 9oz DA stock, and 2lbs 12oz / 7lbs 13oz after inital hammer and sear install. Then eventually 2lbs 7oz SAO. After the hammer and sear replacement the trigger was really really good for a SA/DA gun but i decided it was a range gun so went all the way and converted it to SAO. It shoots very flat and fast, ive emptied my mag as fast as i could pull trigger at Honolulu Firearms into a center mass silhouette target from 10 yds and all rounds on target dinner plate size group. Im not a great shooter by any means so i was ecstatic at that. My tuned glock was all over the paper at same distance. The weight really makes it a dream to shoot. I always wanted a CZ and was slightly disappointed with only the trigger but very happy with the rest of the gun. i hope you will be happy too.
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This is my SP01. I forgot to mention the front serrations arent as aggressive as id like to be able to press check or rack slide. Oh and i picked mine up from Xring, Security Equipment had a couple also.
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Thank you for the feedback Shots!
I was able to try some CZ recently. Both a SP-01 and something from the CZ custom shop. They are nice guns for sure. I think I'd have to get used to the trigger feel and reset (mostly length) coming from shooting Glocks and now a PPQ.
Looking forward to when my SP-01 arrives, but I don't expect it for some time. . . :(
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I've also been looking at these for awhile. Finally held one and also put in order on an SP01. Stoked to get it and experience it.
Others have posted that the tigger improves after lots of rounds (1000), dry firing, or some polishing.
4-6 months?!?!! Hope it comes sooner than that! 30 days is agonizing to me...... :'(
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I've also been looking at these for awhile. Finally held one and also put in order on an SP01. Stoked to get it and experience it.
Others have posted that the tigger improves after lots of rounds (1000), dry firing, or some polishing.
4-6 months?!?!! Hope it comes sooner than that! 30 days is agonizing to me...... :'(
Did you order the "standard" or Tactical version?
I had a chance to pick up a CZ 75B SA when I put in the order for the SP-01, but I decided to stick with the SP-01. Now, I'm thinking that if it's still available, I might pick that one up too. ;D
At least I'll have mags that can be used in either. Wish we could get the laws changed to allow standard capacity magazines here.
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Did you order the "standard" or Tactical version?
I had a chance to pick up a CZ 75B SA when I put in the order for the SP-01, but I decided to stick with the SP-01. Now, I'm thinking that if it's still available, I might pick that one up too. ;D
At least I'll have mags that can be used in either. Wish we could get the laws changed to allow standard capacity magazines here.
Tac version.
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Tac version.
:thumbsup:
One my buddies ordered the same one. We are all waiting. . .
Let me know what you think of your when it eventually comes in.
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:thumbsup:
One my buddies ordered the same one. We are all waiting. . .
Let me know what you think of your when it eventually comes in.
Will do! :thumbsup: Might take a while to put it through its paces. Kids reduce personal freedom almost as much as progressive libtards!! :rofl:
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Why are you waiting for them? They are all over Gunbroker.
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Why are you waiting for them? They are all over Gunbroker.
A quick search a few weeks ago resulted in no 9mm models, or at least none that were decently priced after shipping and FFL fees. Always try support local fun stores, especially if the price is going to be about the same.
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Never bought a gun through gunbroker.
I also did a search and there are some 75B (various variants) available, but the 10 rounders are rare. Yeah, I could get them pinned/blocked, but another cost and hassle. Even then, the pricing isn't great. I got a pretty good deal on this order and it's not like I "need" it, so I am willing to wait. I too prefer to support and go through LGS when they can get what I want and the pricing is close. With shipping and FFL, the guns on gunbroker would come out a good amount more, like 10%+.
I have bought FFL items online before, but usually only after the LGSs can't get it.
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I will always buy local when its comparable. For example. MY son wanted a H&k G36 22lr. The only local gun store that had one wanted $580+Tax. I picked one up on Gunbroker for $420+25shipping and $25 FFL thanks to awesome Henry @ Prime sports. So saving over $100 is a no brainier for me.
Oh i did buy my CZ75 9mm matte stainless from security equipment. But if they didn't have it i am not the kinda guy who waits 6-9 months for a gun i want.
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I will always buy local when its comparable. For example. MY son wanted a H&k G36 22lr. The only local gun store that had one wanted $580+Tax. I picked one up on Gunbroker for $420+25shipping and $25 FFL thanks to awesome Henry @ Prime sports. So saving over $100 is a no brainier for me.
Oh i did buy my CZ75 9mm matte stainless from security equipment. But if they didn't have it i am not the kinda guy who waits 6-9 months for a gun i want.
Yeah, I hear ya.
When I put down my deposit, the person mentioned 4-6 weeks, which was completely reasonable. However, he wasn't the one doing the ordering and coordinating with the supplier/distributor. I found out later that a friend who also put in an order for a CZ that the guy putting in the order indicated as long as 4-6 months! Wasn't exactly happy, but whatever. I've wanted that gun for a long time and I can wait. That and I recently bought a couple of new guns over Christmas, so it's not like I really "need" a new gun or jonesing for something new. Haha.
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Prime Sports has a CZ Customs Shadow on the wall. OOOOOOOHHHH the NICE!!!!!!!!!
(https://scontent-lax3-1.xx.fbcdn.net/hphotos-xaf1/v/t1.0-9/12821516_831462986981638_6625632996143726579_n.jpg?oh=57782e419e10f542d7b3cb214e1a18b2&oe=57503475)
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Prime Sports has a CZ Customs Shadow on the wall. OOOOOOOHHHH the NICE!!!!!!!!!
(https://scontent-lax3-1.xx.fbcdn.net/hphotos-xaf1/v/t1.0-9/12821516_831462986981638_6625632996143726579_n.jpg?oh=57782e419e10f542d7b3cb214e1a18b2&oe=57503475)
Damn! Did you get the price? Found out today that I'm supposed to get a bonus at work. Haven't received it, but might be tempted to spend it. Haha
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Damn! Did you get the price? Found out today that I'm supposed to get a bonus at work. Haven't received it, but might be tempted to spend it. Haha
No didn't. I wasn't in the market for one right now. All I can say is that this pistol is AWESOME. DA and SA pull feels so smooth, light, and tuned. Range toy and competition would be so much fun with this guy!
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No didn't. I wasn't in the market for one right now. All I can say is that this pistol is AWESOME. DA and SA pull feels so smooth, light, and tuned. Range toy and competition would be so much fun with this guy!
I got to fondle the Shadow over the weekend and, well, just DAYUM! In more ways than one!
It's a great feeling gun! I've shot a Shadow before, but like 5 rounds at a range session. The trigger is really nice for sure! Both SA and DA. The SA was impressive and the DA even more so since it wasn't like most DA pulls that I've tried. Well, most of those DA triggers weren't a CZ and had not gone through custom work. I liked the aggressive grip panel as my hands can get sweaty when I'm competing. Also, I was told that this gun is still legal for USPSA production division as well. The sights were nice as well and pretty much what I'd want for a competition gun.
That said, the price tag was also a different kind of dayum. It was at the top end of the range that I had expected, but I kind of had hopes that it would've been on the lower end. Just can't support that purchase right now, but I now have a better idea on options when I am in the market for something like that!
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Had the opportunity to shoot another CZ 75 Shadow this past weekend. The owner reported it as the most basic SP-01 Shadow version that was around high $800-900. Very nice gun! Shot about a mag through it and very accurate and very nice trigger. It's also a very soft shooter. I haven't shot a standard CZ 75, but I assume that the added weight of the frame of the SP-01 helps reduce some of the muzzle rise. I've heard that the standard CZ 75 are soft shooters none-the-less.
From the "basic" Shadow version, it appears that they upgraded the sights, which probably accounts for most of the difference between the CZ-USA production SP-01 and the custom Shadow version. The one that I shot yesterday did have a nice trigger on it. The one thing that I think I might take a while to like is the manual safety. Of the CZ's that I've shot, they all feel about the same, which is somewhat less than a positive engagement. I guess I am comparing to the safeties on a 1911. Probably not a big deal either way, but just something I've noticed in my handling of the gun so far, which isn't that much.
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:thumbsup:
One my buddies ordered the same one. We are all waiting. . .
Let me know what you think of your when it eventually comes in.
Picked mine up. This thing feels solid! Haven't taken it to the range yet but did a bunch of dry firing. Love the ergonomics. I'm sure the overall weight coupled with the low mass will be fun!
Like the ergonomics much better than my block. This thing fits like a glove!
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Picked mine up. This thing feels solid! Haven't taken it to the range yet but did a bunch of dry firing. Love the ergonomics. I'm sure the overall weight coupled with the low mass will be fun!
Like the ergonomics much better than my block. This thing fits like a glove!
Still nothing. . . :(
Not worried and expected a long wait, but still.
Have you shot yours yet?
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Shot a handgun match this past weekend and saw a few more CZs in action. I also saw some Tangfolio guns, which are very similar (start as CZ clones?).
From the CZs, I like that I can easily swap out the side grip panels to get different textures. It was hot and humid this past weekend and the grip on my Gen 4 Glock seemed ok, but I wish it was a little more textured.
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(http://www.thefirearmblog.com/blog/wp-content/uploads/2016/02/CZ4-660x437.jpg)
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Damn you!!! ;D
I was pretty close to buying the Shadow that Prime Sports had (or still has). Decided to wait until my SP-01 comes in and shoot with it for a little bit before diving into the Shadow realm, but this one is pretty interesting.
From what I read, it seems like the MSRP will be in the $1100 range. Seems like it's on the .cz website, but not the US website yet.
The mags will be another story, but I was talking to another CZ/Tangfolio shooter and might be able to get some blocked standard cap mags for a good price.
http://www.czfirearms.us/index.php?topic=77651.0 (http://www.czfirearms.us/index.php?topic=77651.0)
Hmmm. . .
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Was able to shoot another CZ Shadow over the weekend that was pretty close to what I would like to have in a competition gun. Fixed rear sight, plain and with serrations, and fiber optic front sight. The single action trigger is very nice but the double action trigger is also surprisingly very smooth!
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Just came home from OGC. Lots of CZs in stock if you're looking. Was tempting to come home with a 75B SA.
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I have a P01, the compact version of the SP01. It runs everything I've tried in it, but I've never tried any steel cased ammo. CZ's are great guns! They have a lot of used ones listed on buds gun shop, and a gun broker vendor cdisales has a whole bunch of them too. They're all listed with mags over 10 rounds though.
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Might be adding a CZ to the collection soon. . . ;D
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Well, will be headed to HPD to register a CZ Shadow. . . ;D
Maybe I'll add something else to make the most out of my trips to HPD. :P
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Well, will be headed to HPD to register a CZ Shadow. . . ;D
Maybe I'll add something else to make the most out of my trips to HPD. :P
:thumbsup: :thumbsup: :thumbsup: :D
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I'm really considering the CZ SP-01 shadow 2. I'm not sure if it came out yet, but can anyone chime in about it (or speculate about how it might be a good or bad purchase)?
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I'm really considering the CZ SP-01 shadow 2. I'm not sure if it came out yet, but can anyone chime in about it (or speculate about how it might be a good or bad purchase)?
Been searching for reviews, but I have only seen a very few other than the CZ corporate ads. I think they have only been released in Europe and Asia because the only reviews I have seen have been from there. Sadly, they are not in English so I have no idea what they are saying. Lol.
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I haven't seen anything about the Shadow 2 as well. I've been surfing a couple of CZ forums lately (researching SP-01s and other Shadow models) and haven't seen any "in hand" reviews. That's definitely a cool gun though. For me, I wanted something sooner rather than later. Anticipating a building rush on things as we get closer to November. I hope it doesn't happen, but still. . .
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Shadow Target II and PPQ 5" have been picked up. Waiting on the blocked mags for the CZ, but picked up a couple of mags just in case I got the itch. I was going to try to head to the range last week Friday, but got busy with other stuff. Really looking forward to shooting both of these. Need to get the holsters and mag pouches and then they will be ready to go for IPCS/USPSA.
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Shadow Target II and PPQ 5" have been picked up. Waiting on the blocked mags for the CZ, but picked up a couple of mags just in case I got the itch. I was going to try to head to the range last week Friday, but got busy with other stuff. Really looking forward to shooting both of these. Need to get the holsters and mag pouches and then they will be ready to go for IPCS/USPSA.
:o :o :o :thumbsup: :thumbsup: :thumbsup:
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Shot the CZ this past weekend and it's AWESOME! Very happy with the purchase! It's a great gun. The price tag did hit me, but I'm very happy that I got it. I'd still like to get a more basic CZ, but I'm loving this Shadow version.
One thing that I will change out is the grips. The one that it came with is super aggressive. Just handling it, I thought I would like it since I am used to the Glock Gen 4 texture. But after shooting it, I'm gonna try something different. It was pretty painful to the thumb pad portion of my support hand. Maybe something I could get used to over time, but it was pretty painful after about 20 rounds or so. Ended up shooting around 100, but enough that I will at least give a different texture a go.
Didn't get to shoot the PPQ 5". Messed up the rear sight and didn't have a chance to zero the replacement. Incidentally, if you are going with Dawson Precision sights, they are MUCH softer metal than 10-8 sights. Lesson learned the hard way. :grrr:
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Shot the CZ this past weekend and it's AWESOME! Very happy with the purchase! It's a great gun. The price tag did hit me, but I'm very happy that I got it. I'd still like to get a more basic CZ, but I'm loving this Shadow version.
One thing that I will change out is the grips. The one that it came with is super aggressive. Just handling it, I thought I would like it since I am used to the Glock Gen 4 texture. But after shooting it, I'm gonna try something different. It was pretty painful to the thumb pad portion of my support hand. Maybe something I could get used to over time, but it was pretty painful after about 20 rounds or so. Ended up shooting around 100, but enough that I will at least give a different texture a go.
Didn't get to shoot the PPQ 5". Messed up the rear sight and didn't have a chance to zero the replacement. Incidentally, if you are going with Dawson Precision sights, they are MUCH softer metal than 10-8 sights. Lesson learned the hard way. :grrr:
Pics!? :D :love:
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http://czcustom.com/new-firearms/cz-pistols-custom/cz-75-cts-ls-p-sa-da-9mm-black.html
(http://lghttp.56195.nexcesscdn.net/8037C30/magento/media/catalog/product/cache/1/thumbnail/600x/17f82f742ffe127f42dca9de82fb58b1/7/5/75_cts_ls_p_longslide_91710_.jpg)
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Pics!? :D :love:
I thought I posted. Maybe on another site.
I've been meaning to do a review with pics. Just have to set aside time to do so. :thumbsup:
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I thought I posted. Maybe on another site.
I've been meaning to do a review with pics. Just have to set aside time to do so. :thumbsup:
Yeeehaw! :thumbsup: O0
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http://czcustom.com/new-firearms/cz-pistols-custom/cz-75-cts-ls-p-sa-da-9mm-black.html
(http://lghttp.56195.nexcesscdn.net/8037C30/magento/media/catalog/product/cache/1/thumbnail/600x/17f82f742ffe127f42dca9de82fb58b1/7/5/75_cts_ls_p_longslide_91710_.jpg)
im going to get one of these
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My first impression of that long slide model was the MSRP of $1600 and was like :o
Then I remembered that the one that I just got was about that price. :oops:
I would still like a stock 75B SA or SP-01, but not a priority.
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My first impression of that long slide model was the MSRP of $1600 and was like :o
Then I remembered that the one that I just got was about that price. :oops:
I would still like a stock 75B SA or SP-01, but not a priority.
I like the new frame shape of the shadow 2, but really like the long slide.....
Ah. No money anyway, just dreaming...