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Title: Obama Justice
Post by: Rocky on October 28, 2016, 10:00:41 AM
Obama commutes sentences of 98 inmates Thursday;
All related to drug charges.
I'm not talking marijuana here but the production, distribution and trafficking of PCP, Crack, Cocaine, Meth and other narcotics. :(
42 had life terms :o
17 had firearms charges  :-\
6 were convicted felons (one was 3 charges) :P

https://www.washingtonpost.com/news/post-politics/wp/2016/10/27/obama-commutes-sentences-of-98-inmates-thursday-42-had-life-terms/

 :wtf:
Title: Re: Obama Justice
Post by: eyeeatingfish on October 28, 2016, 04:57:49 PM
42 had life sentences but only 6 of them were convicted felons? I would expect them all to be felons.
Title: Re: Obama Justice
Post by: stangzilla on October 28, 2016, 05:00:11 PM
he's freed more prisoners than the previous 11 presidents combined
he loves them criminals.   >:(
Title: Re: Obama Justice
Post by: ren on October 28, 2016, 05:06:43 PM
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Tt1W0F0yObg (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Tt1W0F0yObg)
Title: Re: Obama Justice
Post by: Rocky on October 28, 2016, 05:38:01 PM
42 had life sentences but only 6 of them were convicted felons? I would expect them all to be felons.

6 of the 17 with fire arm charges were already convicted felons (one with 3 charges)
 i:e. It was illegal for them to have guns.
Gee, these convicted felons were breaking the law  :shake:
 :rofl: :rofl: :rofl: :rofl:
Title: Re: Obama Justice
Post by: eyeeatingfish on October 28, 2016, 07:21:21 PM
he's freed more prisoners than the previous 11 presidents combined
he loves them criminals.   >:(

I think it is interesting on what types he is letting go though. Previous presidents seem to free all their corrupt friends but Obama is freeing regular criminals. I am sure he will free some buddies too but just an interesting observation.
Title: Re: Obama Justice
Post by: robtmc on October 28, 2016, 07:39:36 PM
17 had firearms charges  :-\
Fast and Furious, Part II????
Title: Re: Obama Justice
Post by: Rocky on October 29, 2016, 06:57:50 AM
I think it is interesting on what types he is letting go though. Previous presidents seem to free all their corrupt friends but Obama is freeing regular criminals. I am sure he will free some buddies too but just an interesting observation.

"regular criminals" ? :wacko:

    A burglar is a regular criminal.
A car thief is a regular criminal
A cop taking bribes  is a regular criminal.
A  shoplifting, jay walking, pot smoker driving drunk  is a regular criminal.
Chief Kealoha  our Mayor and Governor are regular criminals.

    These criminals, judged non violent even though they had firearms while committing crimes were spewing poison to our children and creating a society of degenerate's, dependents and in the end, more criminals.  :wtf:

    He has just released those that are  the scourge of our nation to continue destroying our it.   :'(
Title: Re: Obama Justice
Post by: eyeeatingfish on October 30, 2016, 09:29:03 PM
"regular criminals" ? :wacko:

    A burglar is a regular criminal.
A car thief is a regular criminal
A cop taking bribes  is a regular criminal.
A  shoplifting, jay walking, pot smoker driving drunk  is a regular criminal.
Chief Kealoha  our Mayor and Governor are regular criminals.

    These criminals, judged non violent even though they had firearms while committing crimes were spewing poison to our children and creating a society of degenerate's, dependents and in the end, more criminals.  :wtf:

    He has just released those that are  the scourge of our nation to continue destroying our it.   :'(

You mistake my pointing out the differences with defending his actions. I merely found it interesting that he was pardoning people other than just his corrupt buddies.
Title: Re: Obama Justice
Post by: ren on October 30, 2016, 09:53:19 PM
You mistake my pointing out the differences with defending his actions. I merely found it interesting that he was pardoning people other than just his corrupt buddies.

he's just recreating this scene from Fast & Furious

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mYOH2XBUoik

shuffling the MahJong
you can't tell the difference between the convicts and his friends in the mad dash
Title: Re: Obama Justice
Post by: aklovr on October 31, 2016, 09:51:46 AM
0bama vowed to have the most transparent administration upon being elected, and now Wikileaks is helping him out with that ; ;)
Title: Re: Obama Justice
Post by: Rocky on October 31, 2016, 04:55:31 PM
You mistake my pointing out the differences with defending his actions. I merely found it interesting that he was pardoning people other than just his corrupt buddies.


No mistake.
In no way am "defending his actions".    :rofl: :rofl:

    If you meant that you were not "defending his actions" but rather noticed he was letting out criminals other than "his corrupt buddies" fine.
My point was he preaches against drugs and guns but drugs and guns criminals go.
Title: Re: Obama Justice
Post by: eyeeatingfish on November 01, 2016, 08:20:32 PM

No mistake.
In no way am "defending his actions".    :rofl: :rofl:

    If you meant that you were not "defending his actions" but rather noticed he was letting out criminals other than "his corrupt buddies" fine.
My point was he preaches against drugs and guns but drugs and guns criminals go.

Gotcha!

Although I hesitate to make judgements just based on numbers. Thing is that numbers don't tell an in depth story. Some of the people getting pardon's might have stories that paint a different picture than just convictions. Maybe the trial was questionable or maybe the charge was inappropriate, maybe the individual changed their life around seriously, etc. Maybe these pardons actually make a lot of sense if we read the actual cases. I am sure we can all think of a case where justice wasn't applied correctly.

Title: Re: Obama Justice
Post by: Rocky on November 01, 2016, 08:39:18 PM
Gotcha!

Although I hesitate to make judgements just based on numbers. Thing is that numbers don't tell an in depth story. Some of the people getting pardon's might have stories that paint a different picture than just convictions. Maybe the trial was questionable or maybe the charge was inappropriate, maybe the individual changed their life around seriously, etc. Maybe these pardons actually make a lot of sense if we read the actual cases. I am sure we can all think of a case where justice wasn't applied correctly.

True.
Maybe some are actually his corrupt friends.  :o
Title: Re: Obama Justice
Post by: macsak on November 01, 2016, 08:49:15 PM
True.
Maybe some are actually his corrupt friends.  :o

like his best friend who was soliciting prostitutes in kakaako?
and it was never publicized about what sex the officer he propositioned was?
Title: Re: Obama Justice
Post by: changemyoil66 on November 02, 2016, 09:14:37 AM
There should be a bill that anytime anyone is pardoned (president, mayor, etc...) there should be a reason.  Even if the reason is "he's a friend of mine or I owe a friend a favor".  At least the public will know why someone was pardoned.
Title: Re: Obama Justice
Post by: All_rice on November 02, 2016, 07:08:20 PM
There are already news on some of the criminals released already committing crimes. I know I read of one that went and committed murder as soon as he got out.
Title: Re: Obama Justice
Post by: eyeeatingfish on November 02, 2016, 07:20:03 PM
There are already news on some of the criminals released already committing crimes. I know I read of one that went and committed murder as soon as he got out.

Link?