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General Topics => General Discussion => Topic started by: stangzilla on November 14, 2016, 01:12:47 PM

Title: send ammo to big island via hawaiian air cargo
Post by: stangzilla on November 14, 2016, 01:12:47 PM
is it possible to air cargo some ammo to the big island?

I want to send some hand loads to my nephew on the big island for Christmas
better than knitting him a sweater.
can I sent it air cargo?
or is there another way to send it that's cheap and quick?
Title: Re: send ammo to big island via hawaiian air cargo
Post by: zippz on November 14, 2016, 01:15:27 PM
Ask friends and family to take on the plane.
Title: Re: send ammo to big island via hawaiian air cargo
Post by: stangzilla on November 14, 2016, 03:47:31 PM
aloha air cargo will not do it

Hawaiian air cargo will. but there's a big fee to send ammo.

I guess I'm knitting him a sweater.  unless someone has another idea.
none of my family or friends are going there before Christmas.
there goes that idea.   :(
Title: Re: send ammo to big island via hawaiian air cargo
Post by: Hanabata on November 14, 2016, 04:15:32 PM
Ammo is an awesome Christmas present!  :thumbsup:

Edit: Doh, posted my reply before seeing your followup.  Hopefully you can find a solution to send to BI.
Title: Re: send ammo to big island via hawaiian air cargo
Post by: iseekprophet on November 14, 2016, 04:38:02 PM
Pm inbound
Title: Re: send ammo to big island via hawaiian air cargo
Post by: stangzilla on November 14, 2016, 05:38:10 PM
young brothers will ship it
but I need to figure out how to fill out the hazmat forms and all that
and I don't know about cost
Title: Re: send ammo to big island via hawaiian air cargo
Post by: Surf on November 14, 2016, 06:17:22 PM
There is no longer the ORM-D classification for hazmat items like small arms ammunition under certain quantities.  To comply with international guidelines the "limited quantity" classification has been adopted for small arms ammunition 66lbs or less.  This is associated with the black and white diamond label, so there are no special hazmat certifications or forms to fill out. 

Young Brothers will take up to 66lbs in one package as a standard "limited quantity" hazmat item with the black and white diamond label(s).  There are requirements that the ammo be individually packaged divided by cardboard to protect primers, ie in factory trays and box.  In other words, no loose or bulk ammo in a bag stuffed in a box. This is by land or sea shipment.  Air Cargo quantity can be regulated by the carrier.   
Title: Re: send ammo to big island via hawaiian air cargo
Post by: RSN172 on November 14, 2016, 06:42:25 PM
Young Bros min charge a year ago was $55.
Title: Re: send ammo to big island via hawaiian air cargo
Post by: scorpio ps on November 14, 2016, 07:08:45 PM
One thing to remember with air cargo. You must be a known shipper.
Title: Re: send ammo to big island via hawaiian air cargo
Post by: gotblika on November 14, 2016, 08:24:49 PM
One thing to remember with air cargo. You must be a known shipper.

pretty sure thats for cargo shipments on passenger aircraft only
Title: Re: send ammo to big island via hawaiian air cargo
Post by: Tom_G on November 14, 2016, 09:42:08 PM
Just as a point of curiosity... what about transportation on private vehicles? If, for example, you had a friend with a boat who was looking to make a neighbor island run anyway. Or, for another example, you had a friend who was getting their pilot's license, and needed to rack up hours? I know in the latter case they can take passengers, but are forbidden from charging more than 1/2 the cost of the fuel.

Title: Re: send ammo to big island via hawaiian air cargo
Post by: stangzilla on November 15, 2016, 07:12:09 AM
There is no longer the ORM-D classification for hazmat items like small arms ammunition under certain quantities.  To comply with international guidelines the "limited quantity" classification has been adopted for small arms ammunition 66lbs or less.  This is associated with the black and white diamond label, so there are no special hazmat certifications or forms to fill out. 

Young Brothers will take up to 66lbs in one package as a standard "limited quantity" hazmat item with the black and white diamond label(s).  There are requirements that the ammo be individually packaged divided by cardboard to protect primers, ie in factory trays and box.  In other words, no loose or bulk ammo in a bag stuffed in a box. This is by land or sea shipment.  Air Cargo quantity can be regulated by the carrier.   

Young Bros min charge a year ago was $55.

thanks.   :shaka:
Title: Re: send ammo to big island via hawaiian air cargo
Post by: macsak on November 15, 2016, 07:17:13 AM
thanks.   :shaka:

ogc has a system set up so that they can deliver cases of ammo to the big island
try contacting them
Title: Re: send ammo to big island via hawaiian air cargo
Post by: stangzilla on November 15, 2016, 07:29:47 AM
ogc has a system set up so that they can deliver cases of ammo to the big island
try contacting them

i remember seeing on their website that they ship to neighbor islands.
i'll stop by their shop and ask more details.

i know my reloads are nothing that special, but i thought  it would be a nice gift for another shooter in my family.
being that i took the time to make it myself adds some personal touch to the gift of ammo
earlier this year i gave my nephew my GP100 with custom grips.  I love that gun.
good thing i had 2 of them, so i could spare 1.  ;) 
reloaded 357 ammo would be a nice touch to go with the revolver.  i was going to make some with LSWC and some with hornady JHP

i'll see what OGC has to say....  thanks, macsak.   :shaka:
Title: Re: send ammo to big island via hawaiian air cargo
Post by: Surf on November 15, 2016, 07:45:54 AM
Is it 11lbs or less?
Title: Re: send ammo to big island via hawaiian air cargo
Post by: kekoa on November 15, 2016, 09:30:33 AM
Yes, 11lbs. By Hawaiian Airlines Cargo and/or as checked baggage. For both, the minimum weights apply.
Title: Re: send ammo to big island via hawaiian air cargo
Post by: Surf on November 15, 2016, 10:03:26 AM
No, I am asking stangzilla if the ammo he wants to send is 11lbs or less?
Title: Re: send ammo to big island via hawaiian air cargo
Post by: RSN172 on November 15, 2016, 12:06:39 PM
And is it going to Hilo or Kona?
Kekoa, I think you meant to say 11 lbs is the maximum, not minimum weight. LOL.
Title: Re: send ammo to big island via hawaiian air cargo
Post by: stangzilla on November 15, 2016, 01:19:48 PM
yes, its less than 11 lbs
going to Hilo
Title: Re: send ammo to big island via hawaiian air cargo
Post by: kekoa on November 19, 2016, 12:22:51 PM
And is it going to Hilo or Kona?
Kekoa, I think you meant to say 11 lbs is the maximum, not minimum weight. LOL.

Just saying…I work for Hawaiian and know the carriage of goods requirements. Just trying to help a brother out but whatevers. I was meaning exactly what you are implying so you have me as confused as you are :shake:

LOL back at you son

edit: Ok my bad I see it now. Yes maximum weights. Would be nice if that was minimum though.
Title: Re: send ammo to big island via hawaiian air cargo
Post by: kekoa on November 19, 2016, 12:30:17 PM
yes, its less than 11 lbs
going to Hilo

You're good. Just pack it in manufacture ammo boxes or the plastic type used for reloading. Let em' know you got it and that is it.
Title: Re: send ammo to big island via hawaiian air cargo
Post by: stangzilla on November 21, 2016, 08:10:41 AM
You're good. Just pack it in manufacture ammo boxes or the plastic type used for reloading. Let em' know you got it and that is it.

I'm not going to Hilo, but the ammo is
that's why I wanted to send it another way
young bros is the only way
but I don't think i'll have time to reload the quantity that I would like to send.  being that its holiday time and I got other stuff to do first.
I might just wait till next year sometime and take it myself
I guess I'm knitting my nephew a sweater after all.    :D
Title: Re: send ammo to big island via hawaiian air cargo
Post by: bass monkey on November 21, 2016, 11:53:34 AM
Try and see if Hawaiian will let you send a un attended bag. 
I know other smaller airlines that allowed this type of thing, we would send loaded coolers or luggage or whatnot and have someone on the opposite end waiting for pickup.  Not sure if Hawaiian is the same way
Title: Re: send ammo to big island via hawaiian air cargo
Post by: mauiboi9 on November 21, 2016, 08:52:40 PM
Can not send unattended bags. OGC tactical used to send ammo to maui. Fee was 75 bucks but you could ship up to 7k rounds of 223. idk what the weight of it comes out to be. But the fee was a flat fee. So if u ordered 1k or 7k u still paid the same.
Title: Re: send ammo to big island via hawaiian air cargo
Post by: kekoa on November 22, 2016, 05:07:02 AM
I'm not going to Hilo, but the ammo is
that's why I wanted to send it another way
young bros is the only way
but I don't think i'll have time to reload the quantity that I would like to send.  being that its holiday time and I got other stuff to do first.
I might just wait till next year sometime and take it myself
I guess I'm knitting my nephew a sweater after all.    :D

Cool a sweater instead :shake: Yeah, no solo bags on the plane for sure. Air cargo works too. The bad part about that is the "air" part of it which translates into $$$. Knit some cartridges of his choice on the sweater.