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General Topics => Political Discussion => Topic started by: punaperson on February 17, 2017, 03:26:51 PM
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After giving them an hour yesterday to whine in front of him and the public, Trump Sums Up Media Situation:
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I am no fan of the media right now but Trump is just making enemies and sticking his foot in the mouth. I like him on some things but he is an absolute idiot when it comes to spouting his mouth.
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I am no fan of the media right now but Trump is just making enemies and sticking his foot in the mouth. I like him on some things but he is an absolute idiot when it comes to spouting his mouth.
That's your opinion.
He's using the media and misdirecting them. He's a brilliant man. But you can keep calling the President an idiot if you want.
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That's your opinion.
He's using the media and misdirecting them. He's a brilliant man. But you can keep calling the President an idiot if you want.
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One can be a brilliant man and an idiot at the same time. For all the smart things he says he says an equal amount of stupid stuff. For example he wants people who leaked information about Russia held responsible but at the same time calls it fake. It isn't a leak if it isn't real, make up his mind already.
I don't know if I would say he is brilliant but he certainly is smart.
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One can be a brilliant man and an idiot at the same time. For all the smart things he says he says an equal amount of stupid stuff. For example he wants people who leaked information about Russia held responsible but at the same time calls it fake. It isn't a leak if it isn't real, make up his mind already.
I don't know if I would say he is brilliant but he certainly is smart.
He beat the most powerful political machine in the country spending half what she did (not counting Clinton's PACs and SuperPACs), and used mostly his own money. He hand-picked his campaign team. He didn't use mostly political experts. He created a winning team and lead them to victory.
That's what we elected. He's a winner. We're tired of broken promises, excuses, and failures in office. Bitch about Trump all you want, but he's going to do what previous politicians only promised us in order to buy our votes.
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For all the smart things he says he says an equal amount of stupid stuff. For example he wants people who leaked information about Russia held responsible but at the same time calls it fake. It isn't a leak if it isn't real, make up his mind already.
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Talk about disingenuous! Or are you that ill-informed? Or that incapable of understanding basic logic (A is not B)? 1 (A). The release of the SIGINT re Flynn's (confidential/classified) phone call(s) with anyone, including the Russian was illegal. Trump wants the people who did that prosecuted, or at least removed from their positions. 2 (B). What was "fake" were media claims that 1. Flynn had done something illegal and/or unethical by discussing sanctions with the Russian, and 2. that Trump was displeased with Flynn for discussing sanctions with the Russian. As Trump stated, not only was it NOT illegal NOR unethical, but he expected Flynn to do precisely that (discuss sanctions) because that was part of Flynn's job, and had Flynn not done it of his own initiative Trump would have directed him to do so. The issue of Flynn's interaction with Pence is a completely separate issue having no bearing on the former issues.
You're entitled to have any opinions you'd like, but you're not entitled to make up shit (and expect anyone even half-informed to believe it). Yeah, you can (and do) have opinions based upon ignorance of the facts. That's nothing new nor startling. If you come here and try to pass it off as "objective" analysis... well, that's a fucking joke dude.
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He beat the most powerful political machine in the country spending half what she did (not counting Clinton's PACs and SuperPACs), and used mostly his own money. He hand-picked his campaign team. He didn't use mostly political experts. He created a winning team and lead them to victory.
That's what we elected. He's a winner. We're tired of broken promises, excuses, and failures in office. Bitch about Trump all you want, but he's going to do what previous politicians only promised us in order to buy our votes.
Oh please, he won because he had the worst opponent imaginable. People hated both candidates at unprecedented rates, Trump just managed to be hated by a few less people in the right voting areas. I am not saying he is going to wreck america but he is an idiot. He lies to our faces repeatedly. Yes he will do some good but he is still an idiot.
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Trump... he is an idiot. ...he is still an idiot.
More of your "objective analysis"? Source links please.
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Oh please, he won because he had the worst opponent imaginable. People hated both candidates at unprecedented rates, Trump just managed to be hated by a few less people in the right voting areas. I am not saying he is going to wreck america but he is an idiot. He lies to our faces repeatedly. Yes he will do some good but he is still an idiot.
It always amazes me how someone with ZERO accomplishments of any magnitude will call the President, a multibliionaire, builder of some the world's most beautiful and unique buildings, developer of some of the most prestigious luxury resorts, and creator of one of the longest-running successful TV reality shows worldwide "an idiot."
You really ought to stop being so shallow and judgmental based on a few comments on Twitter. You're falling for the bait Trump puts out there for the Liberals ......
Oh, wait! I guess you can't help it!
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Oh please, he won because he had the worst opponent imaginable. People hated both candidates at unprecedented rates, Trump just managed to be hated by a few less people in the right voting areas. I am not saying he is going to wreck america but he is an idiot. He lies to our faces repeatedly. Yes he will do some good but he is still an idiot.
President Trump is busy deciding on cabinet and Supreme Court nominees. Meanwhile, you're thinking about looking into Hawaiian Tel Com TV after you move.
LOL! :worship: :worship:
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You really ought to stop being so shallow and judgmental based on a few comments on Twitter. You're falling for the bait Trump puts out there for the Liberals ......
Well..................................
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It's fine if you think Trump is an idiot for spouting his mouth but I don't think so. He won despite doing that, which is the ultimate achievement. Maybe spouting his mouth even helped him with some people. It actually helped him with me. I am more inclined to vote for someone like that even if I disagree with some of the things said.
As some may have noticed before, I tend to stand strongly with the First Amendment to the point that most people disagree with me, and I believe that I stand much stronger with free speech than Trump does. However, I am in full agreement with Trump regarding fake news, even though some people say Trump's stance on fake news goes against free speech (I don't agree).
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More of your "objective analysis"? Source links please.
no more Snopes please....
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DJT got the media say'n more dumb stuff as Barry would say. Hear Mika say it's up to the media to control people's thoughts. Spoken like a true NAZI. She should try another career where she no need tink too much.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OJ9ce-yMEfc
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It's fine if you think Trump is an idiot for spouting his mouth but I don't think so. He won despite doing that, which is the ultimate achievement. Maybe spouting his mouth even helped him with some people. It actually helped him with me. I am more inclined to vote for someone like that even if I disagree with some of the things said.
As some may have noticed before, I tend to stand strongly with the First Amendment to the point that most people disagree with me, and I believe that I stand much stronger with free speech than Trump does. However, I am in full agreement with Trump regarding fake news, even though some people say Trump's stance on fake news goes against free speech (I don't agree).
I laughed out loud when I read that statement. I guess many can take that different ways.
While I am certainly not a conformist, people who tend to find themselves beyond where others would go could be called extremists or pioneers. Matter of perspective. That said, that statement reminds me of one day that I was driving on Piikoi and found myself driving head on into a woman driving in the other direction. As she came to a stop, I could see her giving me the palms in the air in the "WTF are you doing" manner. Well, I'm going home going mauka in Piikoi and I would say that you're the one needing the "WTF" when there are 5-6 lanes of maybe 50+ cars heading the opposite direction. I guess from her perspective, I was going the wrong direction because I was in her way. . .
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Talk about bias...
Whether we disagree or agree with information, the information should not be censored.
This is how information counter to the "approved" narrative becomes hard or impossible to find. AKA censorship.
Not sure how we will go about circumventing such a powerful MONOPOLY on information, that Google is...
http://www.healthnutnews.com/google-blacklists-natural-news-removes-140000-pages-index/
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Ooops. Meant to edit previous post. :(
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CNN Leaks...TODAY
(Already released)
https://youtu.be/Qc0-NuzYqik
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http://projectveritas.com/2017/02/21/cnnleaks-part-i/
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https://www.reddit.com/r/The_Donald/comments/5vquu8/exposing_the_media_project_veritas_releases_part/
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Talk about bias...
Whether we disagree or agree with information, the information should not be censored.
This is how information counter to the "approved" narrative becomes hard or impossible to find. AKA censorship.
Not sure how we will go about circumventing such a powerful MONOPOLY on information, that Google is...
http://www.healthnutnews.com/google-blacklists-natural-news-removes-140000-pages-index/
I've thought about what it would take to start up a whole "just the facts" news outlet. I'm sure there have certainly been attempts at that, only to get swarmed by doubters, MSM backers submarining them, etc.
I absolutely refused to listen to KSSK when Perry and Price (when he was still on air) were on. I liked that I could listen to some news in between music, but they always had to but in their .02 commentary, which usually was :grrr: Hey, their forum, but made me sick to listen to most of the time.
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Even though I hate fake news and would be open to regulating or censoring it, in practice I can't think of any way to do so. Because who can we trust to do it? I believe the news is already fake beyond what people realize, not just with opinions but even some facts. When the media is fake with facts, it's often the government that pressures them. This includes not reporting facts that the government wants to hide. We only get to find out about fake news when "they" fight internally.
My unique interpretation of free speech is that powerful organizations (the government, the media, Microsoft, etc) should all be required to uphold the First Amendment and not censor others. But simultaneously the same organizations may have to censor themselves. When an entity is beholden to respect the free speech rights of the weak (individuals) it's automatic that the entity's own free speech rights weaken. But few people realize or accept this, thus inconsistency and vagueness throughout american law results in lawsuits over cake messages.
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Even though I hate fake news and would be open to regulating or censoring it, in practice I can't think of any way to do so. Because who can we trust to do it? I believe the news is already fake beyond what people realize, not just with opinions but even some facts. When the media is fake with facts, it's often the government that pressures them. This includes not reporting facts that the government wants to hide. We only get to find out about fake news when "they" fight internally.
My unique interpretation of free speech is that powerful organizations (the government, the media, Microsoft, etc) should all be required to uphold the First Amendment and not censor others. But simultaneously the same organizations may have to censor themselves. When an entity is beholden to respect the free speech rights of the weak (individuals) it's automatic that the entity's own free speech rights weaken. But few people realize or accept this, thus inconsistency and vagueness throughout american law results in lawsuits over cake messages.
There's fake news and just plain shitty reporting. What I mean by that is in this day and age of outlets wanting to be the first to report breaking news, they often rush to get something, anything, even if it's speculation. How many times have we found that initial reports of the incidents like say Sandy Hook, et al where the initial reports were flat out wrong to suspect at best. Yeah, the truth often comes to light through investigation (or sometimes not), but people often remember the first thing they hear about a given situation. That's how perpetuation of myths and such run rampant. So many people nowadays either don't want to or don't care to think for themselves. While I am not ultra-skeptical about everything to the point of being tin-foil hatted, I usually take initial reports from MSM with a heavy does of "will need to wait and see what the details really turn out to be".
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Not sure how we will go about circumventing such a powerful MONOPOLY on information, that Google is...
Bing Rewards! :rofl:
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http://projectveritas.com/2017/02/21/cnnleaks-part-i/
I can hardly wait for the Readers Digest version. :rofl: :rofl: :rofl:
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I can hardly wait for the Readers Digest version. :rofl: :rofl: :rofl:
They are taking volunteers to transcribe the raw, unedited audio for them.
Anyone here who is objective, curious, and interested in the truth willing to volunteer to help with a cause that's getting national attention?
It would go a long way toward assisting that bastion of unbiased truth-telling, Snopes, in their fact checking of the recordings, too!
Anyone?
Anyone?
:geekdanc:
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It always amazes me how someone with ZERO accomplishments of any magnitude will call the President, a multibliionaire, builder of some the world's most beautiful and unique buildings, developer of some of the most prestigious luxury resorts, and creator of one of the longest-running successful TV reality shows worldwide "an idiot."
You really ought to stop being so shallow and judgmental based on a few comments on Twitter. You're falling for the bait Trump puts out there for the Liberals ......
Oh, wait! I guess you can't help it!
You know nothing of my accomplishments. You just love those ad-hom attacks don't you. :stopjack:
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More of your "objective analysis"? Source links please.
That is my opinion.
But lets support it. How about Trump's famous news conference where he defended the Trump steaks brand with steaks purchased from the grocery store and he or his staff was too stupid to remove the store label. Or when he defended Trump wines by showing a vodka line? How is that for a start? Did the media photoshop the video to make fake news?
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You know nothing of my accomplishments. You just love those ad-hom attacks don't you. :stopjack:
You didn't dispute my comments. You deflected.
As usual.
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That is my opinion.
But lets support it. How about Trump's famous news conference where he defended the Trump steaks brand with steaks purchased from the grocery store and he or his staff was too stupid to remove the store label. Or when he defended Trump wines by showing a vodka line? How is that for a start? Did the media photoshop the video to make fake news?
"Famous?" I haven't seen either of those.
What anti-Trump websites have you been spending your days on?
Got any links??
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"Famous?" I haven't seen either of those.
What anti-Trump websites have you been spending your days on?
Got any links??
http://abcnews.go.com/Politics/majority-products-trump-boasted-night-anymore/story?id=37524507
Let me know if that is too biased for you and i will post one of the links to a dozen other news agencies.
I must make a small correction though, it was the wines he showed to cover for the vodka, not the other way around as I previously stated.
** Link fixed.
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http://abcnews.go.com/Politics/trump-list-shows-746-travelers-detained-processed-travel/story?id=45646957
Let me know if that is too biased for you and i will post one of the links to a dozen other news agencies.
I must make a small correction though, it was the wines he showed to cover for the vodka, not the other way around as I previously stated.
Nothing on that link but travel-related reports related to the immigration EO. Nothing about steaks or wine/vodka.
Please try to follow the conversation. :wtf:
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Nothing on that link but travel-related reports related to the immigration EO. Nothing about steaks or wine/vodka.
Please try to follow the conversation. :wtf:
Not sure how that got there. Here is the correct link.
http://abcnews.go.com/Politics/majority-products-trump-boasted-night-anymore/story?id=37524507
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Not sure how that got there. Here is the correct link.
http://abcnews.go.com/Politics/majority-products-trump-boasted-night-anymore/story?id=37524507
I'm through with you. You can't seem to do anything but argue.
I thought you'd be feeling better after your principled vote for Gary Johnson. How's that political statement working out? What's Gary up to now? Not a single peep out of him since election night.
I guess he only cares about his followers during the campaign, huh?
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I'm through with you. You can't seem to do anything but argue.
I thought you'd be feeling better after your principled vote for Gary Johnson. How's that political statement working out? What's Gary up to now? Not a single peep out of him since election night.
I guess he only cares about his followers during the campaign, huh?
So I basically showed a source to support my opinion, which you specifically asked for and now that I am backing up my opinion of Trump you are going to both change the subject, and quit? Ok, go ahead and quit, concede. I wouldn't have to argue with you if you weren't wrong so often.
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So I basically showed a source to support my opinion, which you specifically asked for and now that I am backing up my opinion of Trump you are going to both change the subject, and quit? Ok, go ahead and quit, concede. I wouldn't have to argue with you if you weren't wrong so often.
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So I basically showed a source to support my opinion, which you specifically asked for and now that I am backing up my opinion of Trump you are going to both change the subject, and quit? Ok, go ahead and quit, concede. I wouldn't have to argue with you if you weren't wrong so often.
Dude I don't even understand why you are posting on this website.
It is painful for everyone involved.
Honestly I don't even understand why you are a gun owner or even why you said you voted libertarian.
You seem so very far from libertarian and you seem totally out of touch with what is going on in America right now, while everyone is celebrating the renaissance of core American values, you seem totally oblivious, or at least appear to be.
Surely you cannot be enjoying yourself on this website. Exchanges between you and other members are bordering on farce these days and I admit I am guilty sometimes of fanning the flames but we are all reduced to trying to find entertainment out of your painful posts.
Do you not agree?
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Dude I don't even understand why you are posting on this website.
It is painful for everyone involved.
Honestly I don't even understand why you are a gun owner or even why you said you voted libertarian.
You seem so very far from libertarian and you seem totally out of touch with what is going on in America right now, while everyone is celebrating the renaissance of core American values, you seem totally oblivious, or at least appear to be.
Surely you cannot be enjoying yourself on this website. Exchanges between you and other members are bordering on farce these days and I admit I am guilty sometimes of fanning the flames but we are all reduced to trying to find entertainment out of your painful posts.
Do you not agree?
He has every right to be on this website, Even if his views differ from thos of the majority here. That being said i think hes a troll who only posts to get reactions ? Has anyone met him in Real life?? is he this much of a dick to your face ?
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I've met him in RL. He's actually showed up and volunteered at about 3 of our 2a-related activities.
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Dude I don't even understand why you are posting on this website.
It is painful for everyone involved.
Honestly I don't even understand why you are a gun owner or even why you said you voted libertarian.
You seem so very far from libertarian and you seem totally out of touch with what is going on in America right now, while everyone is celebrating the renaissance of core American values, you seem totally oblivious, or at least appear to be.
Surely you cannot be enjoying yourself on this website. Exchanges between you and other members are bordering on farce these days and I admit I am guilty sometimes of fanning the flames but we are all reduced to trying to find entertainment out of your painful posts.
Do you not agree?
Don't make the mistake that just because I dislike Trump I cannot be a conservative. He is doing some things I very much agree with, but I will still voice when I think he is wrong. I don't know why Trump should get a pass on screw ups just because he is our friend on many issues.