Talk about bias...

Whether we disagree or agree with information, the information should not be censored.

This is how information counter to the "approved" narrative becomes hard or impossible to find. AKA censorship.

Not sure how we will go about circumventing such a powerful MONOPOLY on information, that Google is...

http://www.healthnutnews.com/google-blacklists-natural-news-removes-140000-pages-index/

I've thought about what it would take to start up a whole "just the facts" news outlet.  I'm sure there have certainly been attempts at that, only to get swarmed by doubters, MSM backers submarining them, etc. 

I absolutely refused to listen to KSSK when Perry and Price (when he was still on air) were on.  I liked that I could listen to some news in between music, but they always had to but in their .02 commentary, which usually was    Hey, their forum, but made me sick to listen to most of the time. 

Even though I hate fake news and would be open to regulating or censoring it, in practice I can't think of any way to do so. Because who can we trust to do it? I believe the news is already fake beyond what people realize, not just with opinions but even some facts. When the media is fake with facts, it's often the government that pressures them. This includes not reporting facts that the government wants to hide. We only get to find out about fake news when "they" fight internally.

My unique interpretation of free speech is that powerful organizations (the government, the media, Microsoft, etc) should all be required to uphold the First Amendment and not censor others. But simultaneously the same organizations may have to censor themselves. When an entity is beholden to respect the free speech rights of the weak (individuals) it's automatic that the entity's own free speech rights weaken. But few people realize or accept this, thus inconsistency and vagueness throughout american law results in lawsuits over cake messages.

Even though I hate fake news and would be open to regulating or censoring it, in practice I can't think of any way to do so. Because who can we trust to do it? I believe the news is already fake beyond what people realize, not just with opinions but even some facts. When the media is fake with facts, it's often the government that pressures them. This includes not reporting facts that the government wants to hide. We only get to find out about fake news when "they" fight internally.

My unique interpretation of free speech is that powerful organizations (the government, the media, Microsoft, etc) should all be required to uphold the First Amendment and not censor others. But simultaneously the same organizations may have to censor themselves. When an entity is beholden to respect the free speech rights of the weak (individuals) it's automatic that the entity's own free speech rights weaken. But few people realize or accept this, thus inconsistency and vagueness throughout american law results in lawsuits over cake messages.

There's fake news and just plain shitty reporting.  What I mean by that is in this day and age of outlets wanting to be the first to report breaking news, they often rush to get something, anything, even if it's speculation.  How many times have we found that initial reports of the incidents like say Sandy Hook, et al where the initial reports were flat out wrong to suspect at best.  Yeah, the truth often comes to light through investigation (or sometimes not), but people often remember the first thing they hear about a given situation.  That's how perpetuation of myths and such run rampant.  So many people nowadays either don't want to or don't care to think for themselves.  While I am not ultra-skeptical about everything to the point of being tin-foil hatted, I usually take initial reports from MSM with a heavy does of "will need to wait and see what the details really turn out to be". 

Not sure how we will go about circumventing such a powerful MONOPOLY on information, that Google is...

Bing Rewards! 

http://projectveritas.com/2017/02/21/cnnleaks-part-i/

I can hardly wait for the Readers Digest version. 

I can hardly wait for the Readers Digest version. 

They are taking volunteers to transcribe the raw, unedited audio for them.

Anyone here who is objective, curious, and interested in the truth willing to volunteer to help with a cause that's getting national attention? 

It would go a long way toward assisting that bastion of unbiased truth-telling, Snopes, in their fact checking of the recordings, too!

Anyone?

Anyone?

 

It always amazes me how someone with ZERO accomplishments of any magnitude will call the President, a multibliionaire, builder of some the world's most beautiful and unique buildings, developer of some of the most prestigious luxury resorts, and creator of one of the longest-running successful TV reality shows worldwide "an idiot."

You really ought to stop being so shallow and judgmental based on a few comments on Twitter.  You're falling for the bait Trump puts out there for the Liberals ......

Oh, wait!  I guess you can't help it!

You know nothing of my accomplishments. You just love those ad-hom attacks don't you.

More of your "objective analysis"? Source links please.

That is my opinion.

But lets support it. How about Trump's famous news conference where he defended the Trump steaks brand with steaks purchased from the grocery store and he or his staff was too stupid to remove the store label. Or when he defended Trump wines by showing a vodka line? How is that for a start? Did the media photoshop the video to make fake news?

You know nothing of my accomplishments. You just love those ad-hom attacks don't you.

You didn't dispute my comments.  You deflected.

As usual.

That is my opinion.

But lets support it. How about Trump's famous news conference where he defended the Trump steaks brand with steaks purchased from the grocery store and he or his staff was too stupid to remove the store label. Or when he defended Trump wines by showing a vodka line? How is that for a start? Did the media photoshop the video to make fake news?

"Famous?"  I haven't seen either of those.

What anti-Trump websites have you been spending your days on?

Got any links??

"Famous?"  I haven't seen either of those.

What anti-Trump websites have you been spending your days on?

Got any links??

http://abcnews.go.com/Politics/majority-products-trump-boasted-night-anymore/story?id=37524507

Let me know if that is too biased for you and i will post one of the links to a  dozen other news agencies.

I must make a small correction though, it was the wines he showed to cover for the vodka, not the other way around as I previously stated.

** Link fixed.

http://abcnews.go.com/Politics/trump-list-shows-746-travelers-detained-processed-travel/story?id=45646957

Let me know if that is too biased for you and i will post one of the links to a  dozen other news agencies.

I must make a small correction though, it was the wines he showed to cover for the vodka, not the other way around as I previously stated.

Nothing on that link but travel-related reports related to the immigration EO.  Nothing about steaks or wine/vodka.

Please try to follow the conversation.   

Nothing on that link but travel-related reports related to the immigration EO.  Nothing about steaks or wine/vodka.

Please try to follow the conversation.   

Not sure how that got there. Here is the correct link.

http://abcnews.go.com/Politics/majority-products-trump-boasted-night-anymore/story?id=37524507

Not sure how that got there. Here is the correct link.

http://abcnews.go.com/Politics/majority-products-trump-boasted-night-anymore/story?id=37524507

I'm through with you.  You can't seem to do anything but argue.

I thought you'd be feeling better after your principled vote for Gary Johnson.  How's that political statement working out?  What's Gary up to now?  Not a single peep out of him since election night.

I guess he only cares about his followers during the campaign, huh?

I'm through with you.  You can't seem to do anything but argue.

I thought you'd be feeling better after your principled vote for Gary Johnson.  How's that political statement working out?  What's Gary up to now?  Not a single peep out of him since election night.

I guess he only cares about his followers during the campaign, huh?

So I basically showed a source to support my opinion, which you specifically asked for and now that I am backing up my opinion of Trump you are going to both change the subject, and quit? Ok, go ahead and quit, concede. I wouldn't have to argue with you if you weren't wrong so often.

So I basically showed a source to support my opinion, which you specifically asked for and now that I am backing up my opinion of Trump you are going to both change the subject, and quit? Ok, go ahead and quit, concede. I wouldn't have to argue with you if you weren't wrong so often.

 

So I basically showed a source to support my opinion, which you specifically asked for and now that I am backing up my opinion of Trump you are going to both change the subject, and quit? Ok, go ahead and quit, concede. I wouldn't have to argue with you if you weren't wrong so often.

Dude I don't even understand why you are posting on this website.

It is painful for everyone involved.

Honestly I don't even understand why you are a gun owner or even why you said you voted libertarian.

You seem so very far from libertarian and you seem totally out of touch with what is going on in America right now, while everyone is celebrating the renaissance of core American values, you seem totally oblivious, or at least appear to be.

Surely you cannot be enjoying yourself on this website. Exchanges between you and other members are bordering on farce these days and I admit I am guilty sometimes of fanning the flames but we are all reduced to trying to find entertainment out of your painful posts.

Do you not agree?

Dude I don't even understand why you are posting on this website.

It is painful for everyone involved.

Honestly I don't even understand why you are a gun owner or even why you said you voted libertarian.

You seem so very far from libertarian and you seem totally out of touch with what is going on in America right now, while everyone is celebrating the renaissance of core American values, you seem totally oblivious, or at least appear to be.

Surely you cannot be enjoying yourself on this website. Exchanges between you and other members are bordering on farce these days and I admit I am guilty sometimes of fanning the flames but we are all reduced to trying to find entertainment out of your painful posts.

Do you not agree?

He has every right to be on this website, Even if his views differ from thos of the majority here.  That being said i think hes a troll who only posts to get reactions ? Has anyone met him in Real life?? is he this much of a dick to your face ?

I've met him in RL.  He's actually showed up and volunteered at about 3 of our 2a-related activities.