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General Topics => Off Topic => Topic started by: RSN172 on February 26, 2017, 04:49:36 PM

Title: SLINGSHOTS
Post by: RSN172 on February 26, 2017, 04:49:36 PM
Any of you out there use slingshots?  I used to make my own when I was a kid, but after looking at the Slingshot Channel on UTube, decided to buy some modern hi power models.  Got these from Amazon and 1000 3/8 steel balls was only $19.95.  Also got 250 7/16 size to try out.  The Pocket Shot with the low power black band is slightly more powerful than the slingshot with the six rubber bands.  Did not try the hi power blue band yet.  Both easily pushed the two layers of a cotton T shirt through the 1/4" cardboard at 10 feet.  Without the Tshirt in front, both will put the steel balls through 3/8" of strong cardboard.  I am pretty sure it will bury itself in flesh.  I will try it out next time I have to thin out my chicken flock.
Title: Re: SLINGSHOTS
Post by: Inspector on February 26, 2017, 06:44:56 PM
Watch this one first:

http://www.military.com/video/operations-and-strategy/improvised-weapons/slingshot-guy-finally-owns-himself/2707741982001

Then watch this one:

https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=bc5HUS8dLN0
Title: Re: SLINGSHOTS
Post by: RSN172 on February 26, 2017, 08:41:25 PM
Wearing eye protection using a slingshot is even more important than when using a gun.  The steel shot can fly back at you even when using old carpet on top of plywood.  Playing around with it today, I was impressed with the power and I think if I shot a chicken at 10 ft with the 3/8" or 7/16" ball, it would kill it no problem.  The Pocket Shot using pepper balls would be a good SD weapon.  Better than pepper spray.  I am going to try and shoot a pepper ball later this week and see what happens.
Title: Re: SLINGSHOTS
Post by: whynow? on February 26, 2017, 09:32:47 PM
Watch this one first:

http://www.military.com/video/operations-and-strategy/improvised-weapons/slingshot-guy-finally-owns-himself/2707741982001

Then watch this one:

https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=bc5HUS8dLN0
OUCH!!!  Damn thing looked real to me.  Glad "Herr Schleuder" is o.k. 
Regarding ricochets, I always thought that slingshot ammo shaped like a trapezoid with sharp points would be wicked.   When I used to go in Sports Auth. , I always looked at the slingshots but never bought. 
For a vehicle get home bag, a modern slingshot would be good in HI.
 When I was a kid, always carried in my pocket some favorite marbles, a wire slingshot with a BB tube and either a top or yoyo depending on the season.   Sometimes I carried an old Horlicks bottle filled with water as a micro canteen.  Simple times
Title: Re: SLINGSHOTS
Post by: passivekinetic on February 26, 2017, 10:02:16 PM
Good video!

But I was kinda wondering, they got the camera angle just right to get all his blood and gore. Seems rather convenient, since if you got such a head wound you'd probably be all over the place.

Ha!
Title: Re: SLINGSHOTS
Post by: Flapp_Jackson on February 26, 2017, 11:11:45 PM
https://youtu.be/9ieWrWLjii0
Title: Re: SLINGSHOTS
Post by: RSN172 on February 27, 2017, 04:01:31 AM
Wow.  The slingshot man gave me a big incentive to practice.  If I can consistently hit a soda can at 30 feet I would be very happy.  The Pocket Shot is hard to shoot accurately.  I would be happy if I could consistently hit a gallon jug at 20 feet.  That would mean I would be able to hit someone in the head at that distance.  With the 7/16" ball, I think it would kill a person if you hit them in the T zone of the face.  They certainly wouldn't want to fight anymore.  What I like about the Pocket Shot is you can carry it loaded in your pocket and it is very fast to,deploy and load.
Title: Re: SLINGSHOTS
Post by: drck1000 on February 27, 2017, 06:55:17 AM
I haven't touched a slingshot since I was like 10.  I had the version with only the single surgical tube set.  The velocity with three sets must be awesome, but sort of wonder about how to keep the bands balanced.  But yeah, with some practice, one can get pretty darn accurate.  When you're like 8,9,10, you have LOTS of time to practice.  Haha.  Not sure about lethal with a chicken, but there were lots of "targets" in the neighborhood that weren't safe out to about 30 yards or so. 
Title: Re: SLINGSHOTS
Post by: RSN172 on February 27, 2017, 07:34:48 AM
I haven't touched a slingshot since I was like 10.  I had the version with only the single surgical tube set.  The velocity with three sets must be awesome, but sort of wonder about how to keep the bands balanced.  But yeah, with some practice, one can get pretty darn accurate.  When you're like 8,9,10, you have LOTS of time to practice.  Haha.  Not sure about lethal with a chicken, but there were lots of "targets" in the neighborhood that weren't safe out to about 30 yards or so.
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You buy the replacement bands pre made with stops to fit in the frame.  I'm retired and only work one week a month so I got all kinds of time to practice.  It amazes me how the slingshot man can hit quarters thrown in the air.
Title: Re: SLINGSHOTS
Post by: robtmc on February 27, 2017, 10:48:48 AM
I haven't touched a slingshot since I was like 10.  I had the version with only the single surgical tube set.  The velocity with three sets must be awesome, but sort of wonder about how to keep the bands balanced.  But yeah, with some practice, one can get pretty darn accurate.  When you're like 8,9,10, you have LOTS of time to practice.  Haha.  Not sure about lethal with a chicken, but there were lots of "targets" in the neighborhood that weren't safe out to about 30 yards or so.
The old Wham-o slingshots were all the rage when I was a kid.  Found out they were great for launching cherry bombs at night............
Title: Re: SLINGSHOTS
Post by: oldfart on February 27, 2017, 04:14:21 PM
We used to make our own weapons with guava branch, surgical rubber and an old leather shoe.
Targets were little green army men.
Title: Re: SLINGSHOTS
Post by: RSN172 on February 28, 2017, 04:02:58 PM
Spent about 2 hours playing with my slingshots.  I was able to hit a soda can 60% of the time from 20 ft with tbe 6 band sling and then a band broke.  Didn't have any spares and ordered some from Amazon.  12 of them cost only $10.99.

Started playing with the Pocket Shot.  It put a 3/8" ball 2" deep into the trunk of a banana tree and the trunk of a banana is not real soft.  I started shooting a small cardboard box with old carpet for a backstop.  It went through the box and carpet.  I know this thing will bury the steel ball in flesh from at least 25 ft. 
Title: Re: SLINGSHOTS
Post by: whynow? on February 28, 2017, 07:59:04 PM
Spent about 2 hours playing with my slingshots.  I was able to hit a soda can 60% of the time from 20 ft with tbe 6 band sling and then a band broke.  Didn't have any spares and ordered some from Amazon.  12 of them cost only $10.99.

Started playing with the Pocket Shot.  It put a 3/8" ball 2" deep into the trunk of a banana tree and the trunk of a banana is not real soft.  I started shooting a small cardboard box with old carpet for a backstop.  It went through the box and carpet.  I know this thing will bury the steel ball in flesh from at least 25 ft.
Is the pocket shot the best or strongest (velocity and structural) of the modern slingshots out there?  Looks compact.  Was just thinking of all the slag that was sh!tcanned when I was working.  Pieces of metal slag might have been like the HP of slingshot ammo, LOL.
Title: Re: SLINGSHOTS
Post by: London808 on February 28, 2017, 08:27:42 PM
Is the pocket shot the best or strongest (velocity and structural) of the modern slingshots out there?  Looks compact. 

I will have a bunch of them for sale at the gun show :)
Title: Re: SLINGSHOTS
Post by: macsak on February 28, 2017, 08:29:02 PM
I will have a bunch of them for sale at the gun show :)

that pocket shot looks like it has, uh, "other" uses...
Title: Re: SLINGSHOTS
Post by: Heavies on February 28, 2017, 08:34:40 PM
that pocket shot looks like it has, uh, "other" uses...

coin purse, drink holder, rice scoop.....  What were you thinking about?  ???   :rofl:
Title: Re: SLINGSHOTS
Post by: RSN172 on February 28, 2017, 08:35:34 PM
The Pocket Shot is powerful, but Ithink there are stronger ones out there.  The PS can shoot regular arrows with an attachment they sell, so if you shot an intruder with a broad head arrow.......

The instructions say not to use rocks or sharp objects as that will cut the pouch.  When I was a kid, I would take some of my father's fishing lead, pound it flat, then cut it into squares.  That was some pretty wicked ammo, but the steel balls are really nice and cheap from Amazon.
Title: Re: SLINGSHOTS
Post by: London808 on February 28, 2017, 08:37:27 PM
The Pocket Shot is powerful, but Ithink there are stronger ones out there.  The PS can shoot regular arrows with an attachment they sell, so if you shot an intruder with a broad head arrow.......

The instructions say not to use rocks or sharp objects as that will cut the pouch.  When I was a kid, I would take some of my father's fishing lead, pound it flat, then cut it into squares.  That was some pretty wicked ammo, but the steel balls are really nice and cheap from Amazon.

There's some home made versions using a balloon and a gateraid bottle
Title: Re: SLINGSHOTS
Post by: macsak on February 28, 2017, 08:52:33 PM
coin purse, drink holder, rice scoop.....  What were you thinking about?  ???   :rofl:

heads
Title: Re: SLINGSHOTS
Post by: Heavies on February 28, 2017, 09:48:55 PM

heads

 :rofl:  :rofl: :rofl: :rofl: :rofl: :rofl: :rofl:
Title: Re: SLINGSHOTS
Post by: whynow? on March 01, 2017, 08:27:54 PM
I will have a bunch of them for sale at the gun show :)
Will check it out, only 17 days more.
Title: Re: SLINGSHOTS
Post by: whynow? on March 01, 2017, 08:39:25 PM
Just found a slingshot forum.  Just browsing through it, think it's important to wear safety glasses when shooting a SS.
http://slingshotforum.com/forum/4-general-slingshot-discussion/
Title: Re: SLINGSHOTS
Post by: drck1000 on March 02, 2017, 07:16:39 AM
Just found a slingshot forum.  Just browsing through it, think it's important to wear safety glasses when shooting a SS.
http://slingshotforum.com/forum/4-general-slingshot-discussion/
Wonder what kind of snobbery exists with slingshots.   ;D
Title: Re: SLINGSHOTS
Post by: drck1000 on March 02, 2017, 07:41:28 AM
Spent about 2 hours playing with my slingshots.  I was able to hit a soda can 60% of the time from 20 ft with tbe 6 band sling and then a band broke.  Didn't have any spares and ordered some from Amazon.  12 of them cost only $10.99.

Started playing with the Pocket Shot.  It put a 3/8" ball 2" deep into the trunk of a banana tree and the trunk of a banana is not real soft.  I started shooting a small cardboard box with old carpet for a backstop.  It went through the box and carpet. I know this thing will bury the steel ball in flesh from at least 25 ft.
That's pretty impressive! 

How about some tests with clothing?   ;D

I'm kidding.  Well, mostly.  Sort of.  Haha
Title: Re: SLINGSHOTS
Post by: whynow? on March 02, 2017, 08:02:04 AM
Wonder what kind of snobbery exists with slingshots.   ;D
Pretty sure there's the SS know-it-alls and purists who demand the best, like any other hobby.   Guess makes them feel big compared to the newbies.
Title: Re: SLINGSHOTS
Post by: eyeeatingfish on March 03, 2017, 12:29:17 AM
that pocket shot looks like it has, uh, "other" uses...

The rubber in the pocket shot has a lifespan. Cannot remember but it does need to be replaced after so many hundred shots.
Title: Re: SLINGSHOTS
Post by: drck1000 on March 03, 2017, 08:18:10 AM
Pretty sure there's the SS know-it-alls and purists who demand the best, like any other hobby.   Guess makes them feel big compared to the newbies.
Yeah, I am sure there are.  ;D

I am admin on another gun board.  The members there have a diverse interest base.  While we discuss many things like knives, cameras, and other stuff non-gun related, it's usually at a surface level.  So the guys mention being members on other boards for the specific interest.  Such as guitars, chainsaws, etc.  You would be surprised at the stories I hear of snobbery and such.  I don't know jack about chainsaws other than I think Stihl is a good brand.  Apparently, if you don't have Husqvarna or another brand, you're an idiot.  Then there are other boards where members chastise newbies for bringing up old threads, even if the new question is relevant and it's not like things are being rehashed.  There's often the "good ole boy" thing going on, which whatever, but to me it's stupid. 

While I certainly have my preferences and what I would recommend, I'm always open to other possibilities.  If people are not, that's fine too.  They can go on believing their Ford is better than a Chevy. . .  :rofl:
Title: Re: SLINGSHOTS
Post by: RSN172 on March 03, 2017, 09:25:59 AM
That's pretty impressive! 

How about some tests with clothing?   ;D

I'm kidding.  Well, mostly.  Sort of.  Haha
See my photo in the first post, pushing two layers of a Tshirt one inch through 1/4" thick cardboard.
Title: Re: SLINGSHOTS
Post by: robtmc on March 03, 2017, 09:59:32 AM
Just found a slingshot forum.  Just browsing through it, think it's important to wear safety glasses when shooting a SS.
My dim memory of an old Wham-O slingshot says that is a good idea.

Also, be very careful of what you use for ammo.  I tried some 1/2-5/8" nuts once.  For whatever reason, it did not come out of the sling clean and whacked into the wood frame near the web of my hand.  Smooth ammo seems to rest better in the sling I suppose.
Title: Re: SLINGSHOTS
Post by: London808 on March 10, 2017, 10:38:56 AM
Ready for the gun show. i have 18 to sell for those interested ( Sorry for hijacking the thread :)

(https://scontent-lax3-2.xx.fbcdn.net/v/t1.0-9/17264609_10158353542030634_8589838990819619718_n.jpg?oh=df586ea4d036c7e46ccf5917245c8b77&oe=5972DA3C)
Title: Re: SLINGSHOTS
Post by: whynow? on March 10, 2017, 11:16:33 PM
I'll check it out next Saturday. 
Was wondering if any states ban SS and found this on BudK and shipping restrictions,  :wacko:
http://www.budk.com/Marksman-Pocket-Hunter-Slingshot-With-3-Piece-Arrow-Set-29258
Title: Re: SLINGSHOTS
Post by: London808 on March 11, 2017, 09:25:30 AM
I'll check it out next Saturday. 
Was wondering if any states ban SS and found this on BudK and shipping restrictions,  :wacko:
http://www.budk.com/Marksman-Pocket-Hunter-Slingshot-With-3-Piece-Arrow-Set-29258

Hunting laws for 50 states.

State
Slingshots Allowed?
Yes means slingshots are allowed in some capacity.
No means not allowed in any capacity.
Link(s) for Details
*******************************
Alabama
Yes
Legal for small game and nuisance species.
http://slingshotforu...state/?p=504074

Alaska
Yes
Legal for small game and nuisance species.
http://slingshotforu...state/?p=504065

Arizona
Yes
Legal for certain listed species. See link.
http://slingshotforu...state/?p=504070

Arkansas
Yes
Legal for small game. No clear answer for non-game species.
http://slingshotforum.com/topic/40597-slingshot-hunting-state-by-state/?p=504639

California
Yes
Non-game species only, but limited. Read the regs.
http://slingshotforu...state/?p=504069

Colorado
Yes
Small game and birds.
http://slingshotforu...state/?p=504080

Connecticut
Yes
Legal for non-game species only.
http://slingshotforum.com/topic/40597-slingshot-hunting-state-by-state/?p=507126

Delaware
Yes
Legal for unprotected species only.
http://slingshotforum.com/topic/40597-slingshot-hunting-state-by-state/?p=506914

Florida
Yes
Legal for non-game animals and furbearers only.
http://slingshotforum.com/topic/40597-slingshot-hunting-state-by-state/?p=506330

Georgia
No
http://slingshotforum.com/topic/40597-slingshot-hunting-state-by-state/?p=505156

Hawaii
No
http://slingshotforu...state/?p=504079

Idaho
Yes
Legal unless specifically stated otherwise.
Prohibited for upland game birds.
http://slingshotforum.com/topic/40597-slingshot-hunting-state-by-state/?p=505175

Illinois
No
http://slingshotforu...state/?p=504174

Indiana
Yes
Legal (except for deer and turkey)
http://slingshotforum.com/topic/40597-slingshot-hunting-state-by-state/?p=507065

Iowa
Yes
Small game and furbearers that have hunting seasons.
http://slingshotforum.com/topic/40597-slingshot-hunting-state-by-state/?p=504574

Kansas
Yes
Rabbit, hare, and squirrel.
http://slingshotforu...state/?p=502411

Kentucky
No
http://slingshotforu...state/?p=504130

Louisiana
No
http://slingshotforum.com/topic/40597-slingshot-hunting-state-by-state/?p=506716

Maine
No
http://slingshotforum.com/topic/40597-slingshot-hunting-state-by-state/?p=506245

Maryland
Yes
Legal for unregulated game only, subject to local ordinances.
http://slingshotforum.com/topic/40597-slingshot-hunting-state-by-state/?p=506708

Massachusetts
Yes
Slingshots are not generally prohibited, but check regs on a species by species basis.
http://slingshotforum.com/topic/40597-slingshot-hunting-state-by-state/?p=506626

Michigan
Yes
http://slingshotforum.com/topic/40597-slingshot-hunting-state-by-state/?p=504220
http://slingshotforum.com/topic/40597-slingshot-hunting-state-by-state/?p=504563

Minnesota
Yes
Legal for non-game species only.
http://slingshotforum.com/topic/40597-slingshot-hunting-state-by-state/?p=504303

Mississippi
No
http://slingshotforum.com/topic/40597-slingshot-hunting-state-by-state/?p=504997

Missouri
Yes
http://slingshotforum.com/topic/40597-slingshot-hunting-state-by-state/?p=504221

Montana
Yes
Legal for unmanaged (non-game) species only
http://slingshotforum.com/topic/40597-slingshot-hunting-state-by-state/?p=504325

Nebraska
No
http://slingshotforum.com/topic/40597-slingshot-hunting-state-by-state/?p=504412

Nevada
Yes
Legal for unprotected species only.
http://slingshotforum.com/topic/40597-slingshot-hunting-state-by-state/?p=504603

New Hampshire
No
http://slingshotforum.com/topic/40597-slingshot-hunting-state-by-state/?p=504600

New Jersey
No
http://slingshotforum.com/topic/40597-slingshot-hunting-state-by-state/?p=506633

New Mexico
Yes
Legal for unprotected species only.
http://slingshotforum.com/topic/40597-slingshot-hunting-state-by-state/?p=504599

New York
Yes
Unprotected species only (no wrist braces allowed).
http://slingshotforum.com/topic/40597-slingshot-hunting-state-by-state/?p=504464
http://slingshotforum.com/topic/40597-slingshot-hunting-state-by-state/?p=504630

North Carolina
Yes
Legal for non-game species only.
http://slingshotforum.com/topic/40597-slingshot-hunting-state-by-state/?p=504912

North Dakota
Yes
Legal for non-game species only.
http://slingshotforum.com/topic/40597-slingshot-hunting-state-by-state/?p=504910

Ohio
No
http://slingshotforum.com/topic/40597-slingshot-hunting-state-by-state/?p=506342

Oklahoma
Yes
Regs state Pheasant, prairie dog, squirrel and rabbit are OK. Spoke with game department and was told unprotected species are also OK. While regulations say no shooting of any kind at quail on the ground, and slingshots are not listed as approved for quail when flying, I was told that there would be no problem with trying to shoot flying quail with a slingshot.
http://slingshotforum.com/topic/40597-slingshot-hunting-state-by-state/?p=504665

Oregon
Yes
Legal for predatory animals and nuisance species.
http://slingshotforum.com/topic/40597-slingshot-hunting-state-by-state/?p=504998

Pennsylvania
No
http://slingshotforum.com/topic/40597-slingshot-hunting-state-by-state/?p=504895

Rhode Island
No
http://slingshotforum.com/topic/40597-slingshot-hunting-state-by-state/?p=506627

South Carolina
Yes
Legal for small game and unprotected species
http://slingshotforum.com/topic/40597-slingshot-hunting-state-by-state/?p=507107

South Dakota
No
http://slingshotforum.com/topic/40597-slingshot-hunting-state-by-state/?p=506247

Tennessee
Yes
Non-game species only.
http://slingshotforum.com/topic/40597-slingshot-hunting-state-by-state/?p=506898

Texas
No
http://slingshotforu...state/?p=501839

Utah
Yes
Legal for unprotected wildlife only.
http://slingshotforum.com/topic/40597-slingshot-hunting-state-by-state/?p=506042

Vermont
No
http://slingshotforum.com/topic/40597-slingshot-hunting-state-by-state/?p=506635

Virginia
No
http://slingshotforu...state/?p=501757

Washington
Yes
Legal for unclassified wildlife only.
http://slingshotforum.com/topic/40597-slingshot-hunting-state-by-state/?p=506449

West Virginia
Yes
Legal for small game and non-game.
http://slingshotforum.com/topic/40597-slingshot-hunting-state-by-state/?p=506712

Wisconsin
No
http://slingshotforum.com/topic/40597-slingshot-hunting-state-by-state/?p=506379

Wyoming
Yes
Small game (mammals), ruffed grouse, and blue grouse.
http://slingshotforu...state/?p=502122

FEDERAL LAW PERTAINING TO MIGRATORY BIRDS
Yes
Legal, unless prohibited by State law.
http://www.ecfr.gov/cgi-bin/text-idx?SID=7feda7e2202ee67e2aff478d8a1ab34c&node=se50.9.20_121&rgn=div8

http://slingshotforum.com/topic/40953-slingshot-hunting-laws-all-50-states/ (http://slingshotforum.com/topic/40953-slingshot-hunting-laws-all-50-states/)
Title: Re: SLINGSHOTS
Post by: London808 on March 11, 2017, 09:28:51 AM
Hawaii §13-123-22 Conditions and restrictions

(10) No person shall possess or use tracer bullets, bullets with full metal jackets, blow guns,
guns powered by compressed gas, handguns, animal traps, slingshots, crossbows, poison,
explosives, or snares. Legal game mammal hunting weapons include rifles, shotguns,
handguns, bows and arrows, and spears and knives. Only weapons that are authorized for
the particular hunt are to be in the hunter's possession, while on the public hunting area.
Title: Re: SLINGSHOTS
Post by: RSN172 on March 12, 2017, 04:28:39 AM
Hawaii §13-123-22 Conditions and restrictions

(10) No person shall possess or usetracer bullets, bullets with full metal jackets, blow guns,
guns powered by compressed gas, handguns, animal traps, slingshots, crossbows, poison,
explosivaes, or snares. Legal game mammal hunting weapons includerifles, shotguns,
handguns, bows and arrows, and spears and knives. Only weapons that are authorized for
the particular hunt are to be in the hunter's possession, while on the public hunting area.

Seems like it contradicts itself.

Anyway, I bought the hammer handle for the pocket shot at Sportsman's Warehouse. Going to see how it helps with accuracy.  I can consistently hit a gallon milk jug with the pocket shot from 20 ft now.