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General Topics => General Discussion => Topic started by: Kapolei on June 10, 2017, 12:01:56 PM
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I appreciate if someone could tell me if I got things straight.
I owned guns on the mainland before. Back in the day. So guns aren't a new thing for me.
I will be in Alaska this summer and I want to take son to public range to fire off some rounds. I plan on going into Walmart and buying a 22 and a box of ammo. Like I did when I was a kid.
I will shoot off all the rounds at the range. Put the rifle in a hard case. And check it in my luggage.
When I get back home, the next day, I will take the rifle unloaded in the hard case into HPD with my Walmart receipt and ask them to register it.
Is there anything else I need to Do?
Thanks!
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Sounds good. Just have to check if Alaska allows for non resident purchase of rifles. Bring a couple of non tsa gun locks with you for the case.
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Sounds good. Just have to check if Alaska allows for non resident purchase of rifles. Bring a couple of non tsa gun locks with you for the case.
Thanks for the reply. Just talked to a guy in the sporting goods section in the Anchorage Walmart. He asked me my state. I told him Hawaii. He said should be no problem as long as you have a physical address on the drivers license.
I will be buying the case/locks with gun. What is TSA or non-TSA locks?
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Thanks for the reply. Just talked to a guy in the sporting goods section in the Anchorage Walmart. He asked me my state. I told him Hawaii. He said should be no problem as long as you have a physical address on the drivers license.
I will be buying the case/locks with gun. What is TSA or non-TSA locks?
Get regular non TSA locks for firearms. Every Tom, Dick and Harry in the airports have keys to them. Use regular, decent locks on the case. If TSA needs to look inside, they'll get ahold of you. Alaska is like my second home, flew into Los Anchorage and Fairbanks hundreds of times. Pretty akamai about people flying with firearms. I have purchased and bought back quite a few firearms from AK. Another place you can check out is Fred Myers....usually have a great selection. One thing to remember..when you get back to Hawaii, get it registered immediately. Keep your ticket stub to prove to the HPD nit wits that you just flew in. Wait no longer that 24-48 hours and I'd bring in all the paperwork from where you bought it as well. Good luck....
Ps: make sure your case is airline approved
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Thanks for the info. I will check out Fred Meyers. Maybe I'll scratch the plan on the 22. And find a low cost hunting rifle that we can have more fun with at the range.
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Do you have a long rifle permit as a Hawaii resident?
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Do you have a long rifle permit as a Hawaii resident?
No.
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Do you have a long rifle permit as a Hawaii resident?
Don't need one. Its one way to get around the HPD permit process.
However, they do get you to enroll in Rapback with a $42 charge.
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Don't need one. Its one way to get around the HPD permit process.
However, they do get you to enroll in Rapback with a $42 charge.
That's debatable :-)
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hahaaahh :D :D :D :D :D
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Thanks for everyone's input.
The point of this trip is not to get around Hawaii gun laws. I want to take my son to a shooting range when on vacation. The public range does not have gun rentals. So I thought I would buy a gun. I can easily scrap the plan because we are going to be doing a lot of other things. But I can't imagine that I would run afoul of any Hawaii law if I buy a gun when I am in Alaska to go to the shooting range. Since I paid for the gun and own it, I want to bring it home. Is there anyone that thinks I need to get a Hawaii permit to acquire to bring the gun home? I am serious about the question (it is not an argument). Please let me know if there is any difference of opinion on this from anyone that you know of.
thanks
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Thanks for everyone's input.
The point of this trip is not to get around Hawaii gun laws. I want to take my son to a shooting range when on vacation. The public range does not have gun rentals. So I thought I would buy a gun. I can easily scrap the plan because we are going to be doing a lot of other things. But I can't imagine that I would run afoul of any Hawaii law if I buy a gun when I am in Alaska to go to the shooting range. Since I paid for the gun and own it, I want to bring it home. Is there anyone that thinks I need to get a Hawaii permit to acquire to bring the gun home? I am serious about the question (it is not an argument). Please let me know if there is any difference of opinion on this from anyone that you know of.
thanks
I think the thing I'd be worried about is the Walmart policy.
Even if the law allows them to sell long guns to out-of-state buyers, Walmart may exclude buyers from specific states (so you can't go around the permit to acquire requirements), or they can simply refuse all out-of-state firearms sales.
I'm sure you can call the stores in the area you will be visiting and ask for a copy of their firearms sales policies. Hate to get there and have to waste time looking for a gun dealer that will sell to you.
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Hawaii State laws does not have jurisdiction in another State. Thus you only need a permit if you wish to buy a firearm within the State of Hawaii.
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Individual Store may have their own policies. Almost all dealers refuse to sell anything to California residents in Alaska.
Look and ask in the Alaska forum on AR15.com
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Individual Store may have their own policies. Almost all dealers refuse to sell anything to California residents in Alaska.
Look and ask in the Alaska forum on AR15.com
I called Walmart in Anchorage. The guy in sporting goods asked me what state. He said Hawaii not a problem.
I am now leaning towards picking up a single shot 410 for about a hundred bucks. This is a first time shooting experience for a kid. Maybe we will just shoot out in the woods. Got to do some homework on that. Or we might go to a range with some slugs.
... https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Tj2_v5hLcvI
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I suggest bringing your boy out to the Shooting Sports Fair coming up in a few days.
Think of it as the 50th State Fair with guns...tons of guns.
Bring ear and eye protection and some cash.
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I suggest bringing your boy out to the Shooting Sports Fair coming up in a few days.
Think of it as the 50th State Fair with guns...tons of guns.
Bring ear and eye protection and some cash.
If you don't have enough eye/ear protection for everyone, they sell them there for a couple of bucks.
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I suggest bringing your boy out to the Shooting Sports Fair coming up in a few days.
Think of it as the 50th State Fair with guns...tons of guns.
Bring ear and eye protection and some cash.
thanks... maybe we can bring some of his friends... is there a minimum age?
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thanks... maybe we can bring some of his friends... is there a minimum age?
Check this link for event details:
https://2ahawaii.com/index.php?topic=27849.0
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Check this link for event details:
https://2ahawaii.com/index.php?topic=27849.0
thanks .... looks like 9 to 12 for 22
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Maybe we will just shoot out in the woods. Got to do some homework on that. Or we might go to a range with some slugs.
I know some people shoot on invited private land which I understand to be legal. Don't think it's legal to go onto public land and shoot trees. They'd call that endangering and pull your permit AFAIK. There's designated hunting areas like on Pali but need a hunting license to shoot a gun there, right?
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I know some people shoot on invited private land which I understand to be legal. Don't think it's legal to go onto public land and shoot trees. They'd call that endangering and pull your permit AFAIK. There's designated hunting areas like on Pali but need a hunting license to shoot a gun there, right?
I am talking about my trip to Alaska. I found Knik River Public use area as a place to go. I want my son to experience the way things were when I was a kid. We went to Big 5 or Kmart and bought guns and ammunition and went outside the city and shot up some cans. The KMART checker didn't look at us funny for buying a case of 12 gauge shells. I don't even remember my dad being present when I bought my Remington 870 when I was about 14.
Knik River:
"Like other Public Use Areas in the state, the purpose for establishing the KRPUA is to preserve, perpetuate, and enhance public recreation, enjoyment of fish and wildlife, and the traditional use of fish and wildlife resources. The area provides for a full-spectrum of outdoor recreational opportunities, and is open to motorized and non-motorized recreational pursuits. Activities common to the area include riding of off-highway vehicles (OHV's), hunting, fishing, trapping, target shooting, boating, flying planes, horseback riding, biking, hiking, camping, and wildlife viewing."
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I am talking about my trip to Alaska. I found Knik River Public use area as a place to go. I want my son to experience the way things were when I was a kid. We went to Big 5 or Kmart and bought guns and ammunition and went outside the city and shot up some cans. The KMART checker didn't look at us funny for buying a case of 12 gauge shells. I don't even remember my dad being present when I bought my Remington 870 when I was about 14.
Oh. I know we weren't allowed to shoot in the woods in Washington State. I went out with my neighbor and his shotgun to shoot at birds, you know, for fun. The local game warden showed up and confiscated his shotgun. That's the benefit of subsonic silencer firearms, if you can get a silencer.
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Oh. I know we weren't allowed to shoot in the woods in Washington State. I went out with my neighbor and his shotgun to shoot at birds, you know, for fun. The local game warden showed up and confiscated his shotgun. That's the benefit of subsonic silencer firearms, if you can get a silencer.
I am a strong believer in knowing the laws and following them. With the Internet, there is little excuse for not doing your homework ahead of time. If Alaska let's me have a hassle free time, that sounds good to me. It is just as close as the west coast. It might become my second home like the other poster said.
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I am a strong believer in knowing the laws and following them. With the Internet, there is little excuse for not doing your homework ahead of time. If Alaska let's me have a hassle free time, that sounds good to me. It is just as close as the west coast. It might become my second home like the other poster said.
We were young and stupid.
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We were young and stupid.
Well, at least you're no longer young! :rofl:
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Thanks for everyone's input.
The point of this trip is not to get around Hawaii gun laws. I want to take my son to a shooting range when on vacation. The public range does not have gun rentals. So I thought I would buy a gun. I can easily scrap the plan because we are going to be doing a lot of other things. But I can't imagine that I would run afoul of any Hawaii law if I buy a gun when I am in Alaska to go to the shooting range. Since I paid for the gun and own it, I want to bring it home. Is there anyone that thinks I need to get a Hawaii permit to acquire to bring the gun home? I am serious about the question (it is not an argument). Please let me know if there is any difference of opinion on this from anyone that you know of.
thanks
Everything should be fine. I've done it three or four times. What's crucial is to get the HPD first thing to start the process, bring receipt and ticket stub ( don't offer it unless they ask. I was only asked once) and yes as Suka said, $42 clams for rapback....
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I suggest bringing your boy out to the Shooting Sports Fair coming up in a few days.
Think of it as the 50th State Fair with guns...tons of guns.
Bring ear and eye protection and some cash.
Great idea!
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Everything should be fine. I've done it three or four times. What's crucial is to get the HPD first thing to start the process, bring receipt and ticket stub ( don't offer it unless they ask. I was only asked once) and yes as Suka said, $42 clams for rapback....
They take credit cards now. No need to remind people to bring cash. :shaka:
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Well, at least you're no longer young! :rofl:
Stop trolling me. Waah! :rofl:
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Stop trolling me. Waah! :rofl:
You leave that big an opening, someone is going to walk through! Figured it might as well be me. :geekdanc:
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:wave: Kapolei
Just my 2 sense here.
Thought the .410 is a fun little shotty, but ammo is more expensive, they're not the best for shooting clay's (but can be done) and I'm not sure about shooting at the steel range with them so that may limit your options when you return.
(My first gun was a over and under .22-.410 :D)
I recommend a .22.
10/22 is probably the standard in .22's highly custom-able, and can be shot at the rifle range or the steel range.
My preference would lean to a nice bolt .22 especially for a first gun
One shot makes you concentrate more :geekdanc: and does add some safety factor to the occasion instead of spitting out 10 rnds as fast as you can in a 10/22 :crazy:
Of course another option if your gonna really suck the kid into shooting the latest and greatest would be something in an .22 AR platform (CMMG, M & P 15/22) but I think the 10/22 or bolt are the best for first time.
Enjoy and Welcome son into the Wonderful World of Wifles ! :thumbsup:
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Thinking back to why I liked to shoot as a kid.....
I started with cap or paper shot guns
Then plastic japanese spring action bb repeaters...great fun
Then an old bb gun
Old crosman 22 pellet gun
22 bolt action at grandfather's house
New crosman 22 pellet gun
12 ga pump
If you have a yard space, a bb gun is a great start.
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Thinking back to why I liked to shoot as a kid.....
I started with cap or paper shot guns
Then plastic japanese spring action bb repeaters...great fun
Then an old bb gun
Old crosman 22 pellet gun
22 bolt action at grandfather's house
New crosman 22 pellet gun
12 ga pump
If you have a yard space, a bb gun is a great start.
Minor off-topic rant... then I'll retire to the sidelines again. When I spoke with Hawaii County District Attorney Mitch Roth about shooting (mostly .22LR as steel challenge practice) on my 4 acre property he told me he thought that would be illegal because of the proximity of residences in the area. I then asked him if it would be illegal to shoot airguns, especially those that shoot larger caliber, higher weight projectiles at higher muzzle velocities than the .22LR. "There is no law against that." So something with less range and lower velocity and weight is illegal (.22LR) ("danger to public safety"), but something with greater range, higher velocity, and greater weight IS LEGAL. The only possible way that could be logically consistent and rational (well, sort of, barely, kinda) is if the "public danger" was deemed to be the volume level. :crazy: And they wonder why people don't respect the law and those who enforce it?
:stopjack:
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Minor off-topic rant... then I'll retire to the sidelines again. When I spoke with Hawaii County District Attorney Mitch Roth about shooting (mostly .22LR as steel challenge practice) on my 4 acre property he told me he thought that would be illegal because of the proximity of residences in the area. I then asked him if it would be illegal to shoot airguns, especially those that shoot larger caliber, higher weight projectiles at higher muzzle velocities than the .22LR. "There is no law against that." So something with less range and lower velocity and weight is illegal (.22LR) ("danger to public safety"), but something with greater range, higher velocity, and greater weight IS LEGAL. The only possible way that could be logically consistent and rational (well, sort of, barely, kinda) is if the "public danger" was deemed to be the volume level. :crazy: And they wonder why people don't respect the law and those who enforce it?
:stopjack:
I agree it makes no sense. I think it comes down to the neighbors not wanting to hear the firearm bang rather than how dangerous the firearm is.