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General Topics => General Discussion => Topic started by: justin1098 on March 19, 2018, 07:59:16 PM

Title: Youtube has new rules on firearm related videos
Post by: justin1098 on March 19, 2018, 07:59:16 PM
Youtube gun videos maybe coming to an end soon. They just released a new set of rules that are absurd. You can't even have reloading videos.

"Policies on content featuring firearms
YouTube prohibits certain kinds of content featuring firearms. Specifically, we don’t allow content that:

-Intends to sell firearms or certain firearms accessories through direct sales (e.g., private sales by individuals) or links to sites that sell these items. These accessories include but may not be limited to accessories that enable a firearm to simulate automatic fire or convert a firearm to automatic fire (e.g., bump stocks, gatling triggers, drop-in auto sears, conversion kits), and high capacity magazines (i.e., magazines or belts carrying more than 30 rounds).
-Provides instructions on manufacturing a firearm, ammunition, high capacity magazine, homemade silencers/suppressors, or certain firearms accessories such as those listed above. This also includes instructions on how to convert a firearm to automatic or simulated automatic firing capabilities.
-Shows users how to install the above-mentioned accessories or modifications."

https://support.google.com/youtube/answer/7667605?hl=en

Title: Re: Youtube has new rules on firearm related videos
Post by: mrgaf on March 19, 2018, 08:53:31 PM
Youtube gun videos maybe coming to an end soon. They just released a new set of rules that are absurd. You can't even have reloading videos.

"Policies on content featuring firearms
YouTube prohibits certain kinds of content featuring firearms. Specifically, we don’t allow content that:

-Intends to sell firearms or certain firearms accessories through direct sales (e.g., private sales by individuals) or links to sites that sell these items. These accessories include but may not be limited to accessories that enable a firearm to simulate automatic fire or convert a firearm to automatic fire (e.g., bump stocks, gatling triggers, drop-in auto sears, conversion kits), and high capacity magazines (i.e., magazines or belts carrying more than 30 rounds).
-Provides instructions on manufacturing a firearm, ammunition, high capacity magazine, homemade silencers/suppressors, or certain firearms accessories such as those listed above. This also includes instructions on how to convert a firearm to automatic or simulated automatic firing capabilities.
-Shows users how to install the above-mentioned accessories or modifications."

https://support.google.com/youtube/answer/7667605?hl=en

Just left them a nice little note telling them where to stick you tube....
Title: Re: Youtube has new rules on firearm related videos
Post by: rklapp on March 20, 2018, 08:40:59 AM
I also told them to check with their lawyers first before blatantly violating the 1st and 2nd Amendments. I can see banning videos showing how to convert a semi to auto (or anything violating the FCA) but reloading goes beyond the pale. I wonder if they will scour the videos or wait until someone reports them. Probably enough vigilantes out there to do the work for them.
Title: Re: Youtube has new rules on firearm related videos
Post by: Flapp_Jackson on March 20, 2018, 11:21:04 AM
Apparently PATREON doesn't have a problem with 2A content.

https://www.patreon.com/theyankeemarshal

https://www.patreon.com/hickok45

https://www.patreon.com/search?q=firearms
Title: Re: Youtube has new rules on firearm related videos
Post by: Tom_G on March 20, 2018, 12:39:18 PM
I also told them to check with their lawyers first before blatantly violating the 1st and 2nd Amendments.

They're not violating anything. It's a privately-owned service and they're free to set their TOS pretty much however they like. You have no constitutionally-guaranteed right to YouTube.
Title: Re: Youtube has new rules on firearm related videos
Post by: rklapp on March 20, 2018, 02:51:48 PM
They're not violating anything. It's a privately-owned service and they're free to set their TOS pretty much however they like. You have no constitutionally-guaranteed right to YouTube.
True, but it's worth a try.
Title: Re: Youtube has new rules on firearm related videos
Post by: Heavies on March 20, 2018, 09:29:29 PM
How do I contact them and let them know I will be discontinuing watching all content on youtube?
Title: Re: Youtube has new rules on firearm related videos
Post by: Flapp_Jackson on March 20, 2018, 09:37:52 PM
How do I contact them and let them know I will be discontinuing watching all content on youtube?

You would need to cancel all Google accounts:  Google, Gmail, YouTube, Google Maps, whatever else.  If you don't cancel all your accounts, it's like canceling cable TV and still using their internet and phone services.  Not much of a boycott!

Then contact the Google corporate offices in writing:

Headquarters

Google LLC
1600 Amphitheatre Parkway
Mountain View, CA 94043
USA

Title: Re: Youtube has new rules on firearm related videos
Post by: Heavies on March 20, 2018, 09:39:59 PM
You would need to cancel all Google accounts:  Google, Gmail, YouTube, Google Maps, whatever else.  If you don't cancel all your accounts, it's like canceling cable TV and still using their internet and phone services.  Not much of a boycott!

Then contact the Google corporate offices in writing:

Headquarters

Google LLC
1600 Amphitheatre Parkway
Mountain View, CA 94043
USA



Not really, they make a ton of money off youtube, and the data it collects for their advertising. It would make an impact.  That being said, I wouldn't be opposed to cancelling everything you stated above as well.. 
Title: Re: Youtube has new rules on firearm related videos
Post by: 2ahavvaii on March 21, 2018, 12:05:57 PM
wow wtf.  youtube users have provided a wealth of info that has helped me over the years on how to assemble/disassemble firearms, among other things.
Title: Re: Youtube has new rules on firearm related videos
Post by: changemyoil66 on March 21, 2018, 06:44:05 PM
So whats the alt to youtube and google? Im not a fan of yahoo search cause they got tons of fake news.

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Title: Re: Youtube has new rules on firearm related videos
Post by: Flapp_Jackson on March 21, 2018, 07:11:31 PM
So whats the alt to youtube and google? Im not a fan of yahoo search cause they got tons of fake news.

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For YouTube, there are several.  Many firearms channels are migrating to Patreon.  It was started as a site for musicians to post their videos and audio tracks, but it's getting videos from all over.

It uses a subscription/donation model to support the site and contributors rather than the ads like YT. 

For serach engines, the best alternatives are DuckDuckGo, Bing, and DogPile.  I would place Yahoo way down in the 9th or 10th place for the top 10 of all search engines.  There's one called Yippy, but it's not its own engine.  it searches other engines and returns their results, kind of like the old Jeeves - renamed Ask - did.
Title: Re: Youtube has new rules on firearm related videos
Post by: punaperson on March 21, 2018, 07:41:31 PM
Today I searched Youtube for several different assembly/build demos and got a LOT of results for each, so they haven't deleted those yet.
Title: Re: Youtube has new rules on firearm related videos
Post by: spanner1751 on March 21, 2018, 08:36:35 PM
Today I searched Youtube for several different assembly/build demos and got a LOT of results for each, so they haven't deleted those yet.

I downloaded a handy video to my computer on building an AR-15 lower receiver, just in case.
Title: Re: Youtube has new rules on firearm related videos
Post by: RSN172 on March 21, 2018, 08:49:38 PM
I am saving homemade gun videos.  Still available on YT.  No need to save how to make suppressor videos since they are easy to make, not to mention illegal and we all know as law abiding gun owners, none of us do anything illegal......I think.

I have been shying away from Google and using Bing more as a search engine.
Title: Re: Youtube has new rules on firearm related videos
Post by: mangosteenqueen on March 21, 2018, 09:11:24 PM
InRangeTV has started moving their content onto Pornhub under the name inrangetvshow or something like that.
I don't understand why youtube would want to ban free knowledge, it's like the 18th century again where the nobles don't want the commoners to be enlightened.
Title: Re: Youtube has new rules on firearm related videos
Post by: justin1098 on March 21, 2018, 09:53:00 PM
 You can click on the "no" button at the bottom of the new rules to submit your respectful and logical feedback. I would suggest giving feedback via any other method in addition to this one.

https://support.google.com/youtube/answer/7667605?hl=en
Title: Re: Youtube has new rules on firearm related videos
Post by: justin1098 on March 21, 2018, 09:56:53 PM
InRangeTV has started moving their content onto Pornhub under the name inrangetvshow or something like that.
I don't understand why youtube would want to ban free knowledge, it's like the 18th century again where the nobles don't want the commoners to be enlightened.

C&Rsenal made a youtube video with taofledermaus like this. It is fully censored and safe for work. It's hilarious too.

https://youtu.be/YxLggNH04j0
Title: Re: Youtube has new rules on firearm related videos
Post by: mangosteenqueen on March 21, 2018, 10:00:25 PM
While this YouTube thing is quite concerning, the move to PornHub is the best thing I’ve heard my entire life so far. A new type of pr0n
Title: Re: Youtube has new rules on firearm related videos
Post by: GlockNewb on March 21, 2018, 10:15:49 PM
While this YouTube thing is quite concerning, the move to PornHub is the best thing I’ve heard my entire life so far. A new type of pr0n

As a lithmus test, I checked the views of their “Glock19 vs. Hudson 9” video per site (video uploaded 3/20/2018 across all sites, views as of 3/21/2018 @ 10:15pm):
YouTube - 22,058 views
Full30.com - 2,807 views
PornHub - 5,768 views
Title: Re: Youtube has new rules on firearm related videos
Post by: hvybarrels on March 22, 2018, 12:15:00 AM
I think this is wonderful. Alphabet has been enjoying a privileged position for far too long and it's great that they are encouraging people who are interested in constitutional rights to seek out other venues. Hopefully this slows down the internet media consolidation process and coordinated assaults on free speech that goes with it.
Title: Re: Youtube has new rules on firearm related videos
Post by: punaperson on March 22, 2018, 09:30:26 AM
I just found this site, but haven't explored it yet. Might be useful as youtube goes totalitarian politically correct.

https://www.full30.com
Title: Re: Youtube has new rules on firearm related videos
Post by: mangosteenqueen on March 22, 2018, 09:43:44 AM
Full30 has been around for a few years, pretty sure all the big YouTube channels like Military Arms channel, iraqvet8888, 22plinkster...etc have mentioned it a few or many times. Currently only well known channels upload there and supposedly they’re still working on making it available for all other gun/outdoor related channels.
Title: Re: Youtube has new rules on firearm related videos
Post by: tillamook on March 22, 2018, 09:51:35 AM
Interesting trend.  Youtube doing this (my comment to them was I would keep my adblocker blocking everything),  reddit killing stuff like r/gundeals yesterday and several other gun-related discussions, facebook already cracking down on gun related content (while selling your personal details wholesale all over the world)

who would have thought letting a few massive companies corner the internet would lead to any problems. 

ah well, let it burn.  The faster this country collapses the better
Title: Re: Youtube has new rules on firearm related videos
Post by: rklapp on March 22, 2018, 11:05:17 AM
https://theguntube.com/channels/

The problem is that these sights don't have the sponsors that YT provides and therefore little revenue stream. It will take some time for these alternatives to become defacto.

He says they're given 30 days until this goes into effect.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=J70j9Vmn8ig&t=259s

Ben is devastated.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tDRnOItfSBs

H45 doesn't see too concerned.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NJjWGddwUSY&t=1216s

Same shit, different day.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bN5gRESD0OE&t=137s

Breaking it down...
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7B-oVw_Ir3c

There are alternatives.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uMcNOahTMGY&t=557s

Viva la revolucion!
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EUyNY73EAgs

It's the end...
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OoU3J93aGEM
Title: Re: Youtube has new rules on firearm related videos
Post by: mrgaf on March 22, 2018, 08:15:14 PM
While this YouTube thing is quite concerning, the move to PornHub is the best thing I’ve heard my entire life so far. A new type of pr0n

 :rofl: :rofl: :rofl: :rofl:  :thumbsup:
Title: Re: Youtube has new rules on firearm related videos
Post by: GlockNewb on March 23, 2018, 12:18:08 PM
Another update —> https://youtu.be/C7xDzYnst34

What’s great about this take is that he is more centrist-liberal who leans but isn’t full anti-gun. Also has great reach w/ 6mil subscribers and videos averaging 1mil views each.
Title: Re: Youtube has new rules on firearm related videos
Post by: rklapp on March 23, 2018, 03:57:29 PM
Johnny's solution is to post a video on YT with the load test results (i.e., targets) and then link to another platform with the complete video.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_OZkUEjVvkE
Title: Re: Youtube has new rules on firearm related videos
Post by: justin1098 on March 24, 2018, 07:50:23 PM
I'm not ready to quit watching youtube, so I installed adblock. It is the best thing ever! I should have done this years ago. No more commercials. no more add banners. No more add revenue for youtube!
Title: Re: Youtube has new rules on firearm related videos
Post by: hvybarrels on March 24, 2018, 08:01:58 PM
I'm not ready to quit watching youtube, so I installed adblock. It is the best thing ever! I should have done this years ago. No more commercials. no more add banners. No more add revenue for youtube!

Yeah it's a way better experience
Title: Re: Youtube has new rules on firearm related videos
Post by: punaperson on March 24, 2018, 08:17:42 PM
I'm not ready to quit watching youtube, so I installed adblock. It is the best thing ever! I should have done this years ago. No more commercials. no more add banners. No more add revenue for youtube!
They have ads on YouTube?
Title: Re: Youtube has new rules on firearm related videos
Post by: ren on March 25, 2018, 09:35:54 AM
they haven't banned ALL FIREARM related vids

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KQhD6izHFgg

lots of gun play CQB robbing
Title: Re: Youtube has new rules on firearm related videos
Post by: ren on March 25, 2018, 09:41:31 AM
Youtube doesn't want to promote anything gun related...gun violence etc.

but its OK for youth violence

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=L_dIZWLAQ1g
Title: Re: Youtube has new rules on firearm related videos
Post by: rklapp on March 25, 2018, 04:05:45 PM
Have you tried clicking on the Report button?