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General Topics => Legal and Activism => Topic started by: punaperson on March 13, 2019, 09:37:59 AM
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[See Reply #5 below for update on March 22, 2019.]
Hearing Friday, March 15... testimonies due Thursday, March 14, 10 AM.
COMMITTEE ON PUBLIC SAFETY, VETERANS, & MILITARY AFFAIRS
NOTICE OF HEARING
DATE: Friday, March 15, 2019
TIME: 10:00 AM
PLACE: Conference Room 430
A G E N D A
SB 600
(SSCR817)
RELATING TO FIREARMS.
Provides that no person less than 21 years of age shall bring any firearm into the State.
SB 621, SD1
(SSCR1020)
Status
RELATING TO FIREARMS.
Requires a person to report the person's lost, stolen, or destroyed firearms to the appropriate county police department. Establishes penalties for failure to report. (SD1)
SB 1466, SD2
(SSCR802)
RELATING TO GUN VIOLENCE PROTECTIVE ORDERS.
Establishes a process by which a law enforcement officer or family or household member may obtain a court order to prevent a person from accessing firearms and ammunition when the person poses a danger of causing bodily injury to oneself or another. Takes effect 2/1/2020. (SD2)
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Hearing Friday, March 15... testimonies due Thursday, March 14, 10 AM.
COMMITTEE ON PUBLIC SAFETY, VETERANS, & MILITARY AFFAIRS
NOTICE OF HEARING
DATE: Friday, March 15, 2019
TIME: 10:00 AM
PLACE: Conference Room 430
A G E N D A
SB 600
(SSCR817)
RELATING TO FIREARMS.
Provides that no person less than 21 years of age shall bring any firearm into the State.
SB 621, SD1
(SSCR1020)
Status
RELATING TO FIREARMS.
Requires a person to report the person's lost, stolen, or destroyed firearms to the appropriate county police department. Establishes penalties for failure to report. (SD1)
SB 1466, SD2
(SSCR802)
RELATING TO GUN VIOLENCE PROTECTIVE ORDERS.
Establishes a process by which a law enforcement officer or family or household member may obtain a court order to prevent a person from accessing firearms and ammunition when the person poses a danger of causing bodily injury to oneself or another. Takes effect 2/1/2020. (SD2)
https://www.capitol.hawaii.gov/measure_indiv.aspx?billtype=SB&billnumber=600&year=2019
https://www.capitol.hawaii.gov/measure_indiv.aspx?billtype=SB&billnumber=621&year=2019
https://www.capitol.hawaii.gov/measure_indiv.aspx?billtype=SB&billnumber=1466&year=2019
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See attached for testimony ideas.
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Testimonies are due for SB600, SB621 and SB1466. WE HAVE 12 HOURS !
You can use our web form @ https://hifico.org/psm/ This is the easiest method. 1 page for all 3 bills.
You can e-mail them direct to : pvmtestimony@capitol.hawaii.gov
(make sure to include the bill number, That you oppose that bill, your name and WHY you oppose it.)
You can use the state website here
https://www.capitol.hawaii.gov
You will need to log in and make an account to do so. Instructions can be found at www.hifico.org/bills (all the way at the bottom)
You should also call Gregg Takayama's office and let them know what you think of the bills. 808-586-6340
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See attached for testimony ideas.
Thanks for testimony ideas. Unlike other bills the latter two actually sound kind of reasonable from a John Q Public perspective. Their fatal flaw is the difference in how they say the laws will be upheld versus how laws actually get upheld these days. Shady cops and prosecutors are finally getting brought to light but the support network of people who either participated or at very least looked the other way is still firmly in place. Half of what the FBI is currently unraveling in it's case is a web of targeted harassment.
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JUD committee chair Chris Lee conveniently added these bill to the MONDAY 2 PM hearing at 4:49 PM on Friday afternoon, meaning that testimony must be submitted by Sunday at 2 PM.
Bill status and direct testimony submission links:
SB600: https://www.capitol.hawaii.gov/measure_indiv.aspx?billtype=SB&billnumber=600&year=2019
SB1466: https://www.capitol.hawaii.gov/measure_indiv.aspx?billtype=SB&billnumber=1466&year=2019
COMMITTEE ON JUDICIARY
Rep. Chris Lee, Chair
Rep. Joy A. San Buenaventura, Vice Chair
AMENDED NOTICE OF HEARING
DATE: Monday, March 25, 2019
TIME: 2:00pm
PLACE: Conference Room 325
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on it! like white on rice!
thanks for the heads-up and keeping us marching to the drum beat.
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If you previously submitted, you can view your testimonies and copy.
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I personally am no longer hung up on the modest tone and niceties of which my initial testimonies had. Hopefully it won't be construed as "mental abuse" :-* anti-gunners won't listen anyway, might as well have some fun with it. I reserve the right to take the blunt and direct approach when I see fit, I don't threaten or give them any reason to fear me, but I refuse to be polite with people to seek disarm and rule over people they do not/will not agree with. sorry but not sorry...
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Sorry no HIFICO quick forms are made, so please use the capitol website. You can use the same testimony for SB600 as no changes were made since the last hearing. SB1466 has some procedural changes but is essentially the same from the last hearing. You can still submit testimony after 2pm Sunday, but it'll be marked late.
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Do I read in the registration section 134-31 of SB600 HD 1 that dealers, (FFL's) licensed under the DOJ don't have to present the firearm for
inspection at registration?
Is that me as an 03 license? under the DOJ, or ATF.
That would be OK.
Don't know what version of this bill is germane, but that jumped out at me.
Aloha
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Continue to submit your testimony online if you haven't already.
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Submitted yesterday before the deadline.
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Just posted (I guess they need a couple of extra days to digest our cogent testimony... yeah, right):
As this is a decision making meeting only, no public testimony will be accepted.
COMMITTEE ON JUDICIARY
NOTICE OF DECISION MAKING
DATE: Wednesday, March 27, 2019
TIME: 2:00pm
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Can still talk to the representatives individually before the hearing.
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Thanks for everyone's testimonies. These two bills were deferred to Wednesday 2pm rm325 due to no quarum, not enough reps attended the hearing to vote. If you didn't have time to submit testimony, then you can still call or email the representatives at https://www.capitol.hawaii.gov/committeepage.aspx?comm=JUD&year=2019
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Both passed, nearly unanimously. Both amended... which won't be published for at least a few days. If anyone was there, please let us know what the amendments were.
SB600
3/27/2019 H The committees on JUD recommend that the measure be PASSED, WITH AMENDMENTS. The votes were as follows: 9 Ayes: Representative(s) C. Lee, San Buenaventura, Brower, Lowen, Morikawa, Takayama, Thielen; Ayes with reservations: Representative(s) Say, Yamane; Noes: none; and 2 Excused: Representative(s) Creagan, McKelvey.
SB1466, SD2, HD1
3/27/2019 H The committees on JUD recommend that the measure be PASSED, WITH AMENDMENTS. The votes were as follows: 9 Ayes: Representative(s) C. Lee, San Buenaventura, Brower, Lowen, Morikawa, Takayama, Yamane, Thielen; Ayes with reservations: Representative(s) Say; 0 Noes: none; and 2 Excused: Representative(s) Creagan, McKelvey.
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Sb600 effective date changed to July 1 2019 so it skips conference committee. Now it goes to the final floor vote then governor's desk.
Sb1466 was expanded to enable educators and medical providers to request protective orders. Goes to a floor vote then back to the Senate.
Getting no "no" votes is demoralizing.
There were about 5 or more HPD there, not sure why so many. There were a lot of other bills up.
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Sb600 effective date changed to July 1 2019 so it skips conference committee. Now it goes to the final floor vote then governor's desk.
Sb1466 was expanded to enable educators and medical providers to request protective orders. Goes to a floor vote then back to the Senate.
Getting no "no" votes is demoralizing.
There were about 5 or more HPD there, not sure why so many. There were a lot of other bills up.
Maybe the major bought backup in case i showed up again.
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Sb600 effective date changed to July 1 2019 so it skips conference committee. Now it goes to the final floor vote then governor's desk.
I'm sure you meant to write: "Now it goes to the final floor vote, and if it passes the floor vote, then governor's desk."
Oh, wait... never mind. >:(
The only question really, is, will it be unanimous, or will there be a "no" vote?
I think the "aye, with reservations" vote is both a cop out and stupid. That's like saying, "Well, that sucks... but sure, go ahead, I'm for it." (https://i.imgur.com/vTsXkxv.gif)
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Way too many supportive testimonies, it all seemed very organized. Way too many pro 2A citizens sat this one out, we can't let this happen again.
Modern Lefty teachers have been known to ask their students if their parents have firearms....scary isn't it? I have read/seen many instances of negative treatment and even retribution taken out on a student with different political leanings by their commie indoctrinators teachers. These new amendments to SB1466 do not bode well and will most definitely be abused.
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There were rallies at the capitol for Christchurch and even a huge lei project, so that's plenty of opportunity for helplessness advocates to politicize the tragedy. I missed the call on that one as well. Lose focus for a second and this is what happens.
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Way too many supportive testimonies, it all seemed very organized. Way too many pro 2A citizens sat this one out, we can't let this happen again.
Modern Lefty teachers have been known to ask their students if their parents have firearms....scary isn't it? I have read/seen many instances of negative treatment and even retribution taken out on a student with different political leanings by their commie indoctrinators teachers. These new amendments to SB1466 do not bode well and will most definitely be abused.
GRRRR... I sent my testimony in both on the Leg website and through HiFiOrg
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people are burnt out, how many times have we all written testimony for sb1466? Im gonna look into the cost of advertising on HHawaiiMedia and the legalities. Maybe i can set up a go fund me for the funding.