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*UPDATE* SB600, SB1466: BOTH PASSED, Wed., 27th, with amendments (Read 7500 times)

punaperson

*UPDATE* SB600, SB1466: BOTH PASSED, Wed., 27th, with amendments
« on: March 13, 2019, 09:37:59 AM »
[See Reply #5 below for update on March 22, 2019.]

Hearing Friday, March 15... testimonies due Thursday, March 14, 10 AM.

COMMITTEE ON PUBLIC SAFETY, VETERANS, & MILITARY AFFAIRS

NOTICE OF HEARING

DATE: Friday, March 15, 2019

TIME: 10:00 AM

PLACE: Conference Room 430

A G E N D A

SB 600

(SSCR817)

RELATING TO FIREARMS.

Provides that no person less than 21 years of age shall bring any firearm into the State.


SB 621, SD1

(SSCR1020)

Status

RELATING TO FIREARMS.

Requires a person to report the person's lost, stolen, or destroyed firearms to the appropriate county police department.  Establishes penalties for failure to report.  (SD1)


SB 1466, SD2

(SSCR802)

RELATING TO GUN VIOLENCE PROTECTIVE ORDERS.

Establishes a process by which a law enforcement officer or family or household member may obtain a court order to prevent a person from accessing firearms and ammunition when the person poses a danger of causing bodily injury to oneself or another.  Takes effect 2/1/2020.  (SD2)


« Last Edit: March 27, 2019, 04:39:28 PM by punaperson »
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macsak

Re: SB600, SB621, SB1466: Testimony due Thursday March 3, 10 AM for Friday hearing
« Reply #1 on: March 13, 2019, 09:47:52 AM »
Quote from: punaperson on March 13, 2019, 09:37:59 AM

Hearing Friday, March 15... testimonies due Thursday, March 14, 10 AM.

COMMITTEE ON PUBLIC SAFETY, VETERANS, & MILITARY AFFAIRS

NOTICE OF HEARING

DATE: Friday, March 15, 2019

TIME: 10:00 AM

PLACE: Conference Room 430

A G E N D A

SB 600

(SSCR817)

RELATING TO FIREARMS.

Provides that no person less than 21 years of age shall bring any firearm into the State.


SB 621, SD1

(SSCR1020)

Status

RELATING TO FIREARMS.

Requires a person to report the person's lost, stolen, or destroyed firearms to the appropriate county police department.  Establishes penalties for failure to report.  (SD1)


SB 1466, SD2

(SSCR802)

RELATING TO GUN VIOLENCE PROTECTIVE ORDERS.

Establishes a process by which a law enforcement officer or family or household member may obtain a court order to prevent a person from accessing firearms and ammunition when the person poses a danger of causing bodily injury to oneself or another.  Takes effect 2/1/2020.  (SD2)

https://www.capitol.hawaii.gov/measure_indiv.aspx?billtype=SB&billnumber=600&year=2019

https://www.capitol.hawaii.gov/measure_indiv.aspx?billtype=SB&billnumber=621&year=2019

https://www.capitol.hawaii.gov/measure_indiv.aspx?billtype=SB&billnumber=1466&year=2019

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zippz

Re: SB600, SB621, SB1466: Testimony due Thursday March 3, 10 AM for Friday hearing
« Reply #2 on: March 13, 2019, 07:45:16 PM »
See attached for testimony ideas.
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London808

Re: SB600, SB621, SB1466: Testimony due Thursday March 3, 10 AM for Friday hearing
« Reply #3 on: March 13, 2019, 07:55:49 PM »
Testimonies are due for SB600, SB621 and SB1466. WE HAVE 12 HOURS !

You can use our web form @ https://hifico.org/psm/ This is the easiest method. 1 page for all 3 bills.

You can e-mail them direct to : pvmtestimony@capitol.hawaii.gov
(make sure to include the bill number, That you oppose that bill, your name and WHY you oppose it.)

You can use the state website here
https://www.capitol.hawaii.gov
You will need to log in and make an account to do so. Instructions can be found at www.hifico.org/bills (all the way at the bottom)

You should also call Gregg Takayama's office and let them know what you think of the bills. 808-586-6340
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hvybarrels

Re: SB600, SB621, SB1466: Testimony due Thursday March 3, 10 AM for Friday hearing
« Reply #4 on: March 13, 2019, 08:29:27 PM »
Quote from: zippz on March 13, 2019, 07:45:16 PM
See attached for testimony ideas.

Thanks for testimony ideas. Unlike other bills the latter two actually sound kind of reasonable from a John Q Public perspective. Their fatal flaw is the difference in how they say the laws will be upheld versus how laws actually get upheld these days. Shady cops and prosecutors are finally getting brought to light but the support network of people who either participated or at very least looked the other way is still firmly in place. Half of what the FBI is currently unraveling in it's case is a web of targeted harassment.
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punaperson

Re: *UPDATE* SB600, SB1466: Testimony due Sunday March 24, 2 PM
« Reply #5 on: March 22, 2019, 09:46:50 PM »
JUD committee chair Chris Lee conveniently added these bill to the MONDAY 2 PM hearing at 4:49 PM on Friday afternoon, meaning that testimony must be submitted by Sunday at 2 PM.

Bill status and direct testimony submission links:

SB600: https://www.capitol.hawaii.gov/measure_indiv.aspx?billtype=SB&billnumber=600&year=2019

SB1466: https://www.capitol.hawaii.gov/measure_indiv.aspx?billtype=SB&billnumber=1466&year=2019

COMMITTEE ON JUDICIARY

Rep. Chris Lee, Chair

Rep. Joy A. San Buenaventura, Vice Chair

AMENDED NOTICE OF HEARING

DATE: Monday, March 25, 2019

TIME: 2:00pm

PLACE: Conference Room 325
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rpoL98

Re: *UPDATE* SB600, SB1466: Testimony due Sunday March 24, 2 PM
« Reply #6 on: March 23, 2019, 01:20:10 PM »
on it!  like white on rice!

thanks for the heads-up and keeping us marching to the drum beat.
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rklapp

Re: *UPDATE* SB600, SB1466: Testimony due Sunday March 24, 2 PM
« Reply #7 on: March 23, 2019, 06:07:49 PM »
If you previously submitted, you can view your testimonies and copy.
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Mdotweber

Re: *UPDATE* SB600, SB1466: Testimony due Sunday March 24, 2 PM
« Reply #8 on: March 23, 2019, 07:51:33 PM »
I personally am no longer hung up on the modest tone and niceties of which my initial testimonies had. Hopefully it won't be construed as "mental abuse"  :-* anti-gunners won't listen anyway, might as well have some fun with it. I reserve the right to take the blunt and direct approach when I see fit, I don't threaten or give them any reason to fear me, but I refuse to be polite with people to seek disarm and rule over people they do not/will not agree with. sorry but not sorry... 
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zippz

Re: *UPDATE* SB600, SB1466: Testimony due Sunday March 24, 2 PM
« Reply #9 on: March 24, 2019, 12:02:58 AM »
Sorry no HIFICO quick forms are made, so please use the capitol website.  You can use the same testimony for SB600 as no changes were made since the last hearing.  SB1466 has some procedural changes but is essentially the same from the last hearing.  You can still submit testimony after 2pm Sunday, but it'll be marked late.
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Gordyf

Re: *UPDATE* SB600, SB1466: Testimony due Sunday March 24, 2 PM
« Reply #10 on: March 24, 2019, 06:46:46 PM »
Do I read in the registration section 134-31 of SB600 HD 1 that dealers, (FFL's) licensed under the DOJ don't have to present the firearm for
inspection at registration?
Is that me as  an 03 license? under the DOJ, or ATF.
That would be OK.
Don't know what version of this bill is germane, but that jumped out at me.
Aloha
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Gordy

zippz

Re: *UPDATE* SB600, SB1466: Testimony due Sunday March 24, 2 PM
« Reply #11 on: March 25, 2019, 08:25:43 AM »
Continue to submit your testimony online if you haven't already.
« Last Edit: March 25, 2019, 08:32:58 AM by zippz »
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Bota-CS1

Re: *UPDATE* SB600, SB1466: Testimony due Sunday March 24, 2 PM
« Reply #12 on: March 25, 2019, 01:07:28 PM »
Submitted yesterday before the deadline.
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punaperson

Re: *UPDATE* SB600, SB1466: Testimony due Sunday March 24, 2 PM
« Reply #13 on: March 25, 2019, 05:09:55 PM »
Just posted (I guess they need a couple of extra days to digest our cogent testimony... yeah, right):

As this is a decision making meeting only, no public testimony will be accepted.

COMMITTEE ON JUDICIARY

NOTICE OF DECISION MAKING

DATE: Wednesday, March 27, 2019

TIME: 2:00pm
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zippz

Re: *UPDATE* SB600, SB1466: Decision Making Wed., 27th, NO TESTIMONY
« Reply #14 on: March 25, 2019, 05:24:29 PM »
Can still talk to the representatives individually before the hearing.
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zippz

Re: *UPDATE* SB600, SB1466: Decision Making Wed., 27th, NO TESTIMONY
« Reply #15 on: March 26, 2019, 11:34:51 AM »
Thanks for everyone's testimonies.  These two bills were deferred to Wednesday 2pm rm325 due to no quarum, not enough reps attended the hearing to vote.  If you didn't have time to submit testimony, then you can still call or email the representatives at https://www.capitol.hawaii.gov/committeepage.aspx?comm=JUD&year=2019
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punaperson

Re: *UPDATE* SB600, SB1466: Decision Making Wed., 27th, NO TESTIMONY
« Reply #16 on: March 27, 2019, 04:38:01 PM »
Both passed, nearly unanimously. Both amended... which won't be published for at least a few days. If anyone was there, please let us know what the amendments were.

SB600
3/27/2019   H   The committees on JUD recommend that the measure be PASSED, WITH AMENDMENTS. The votes were as follows: 9 Ayes: Representative(s) C. Lee, San Buenaventura, Brower, Lowen, Morikawa, Takayama, Thielen; Ayes with reservations: Representative(s) Say, Yamane; Noes: none; and 2 Excused: Representative(s) Creagan, McKelvey.

SB1466, SD2, HD1
3/27/2019   H   The committees on JUD recommend that the measure be PASSED, WITH AMENDMENTS. The votes were as follows: 9 Ayes: Representative(s) C. Lee, San Buenaventura, Brower, Lowen, Morikawa, Takayama, Yamane, Thielen; Ayes with reservations: Representative(s) Say; 0 Noes: none; and 2 Excused: Representative(s) Creagan, McKelvey.
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zippz

Re: *UPDATE* SB600, SB1466: BOTH PASSED, Wed., 27th, with amendments
« Reply #17 on: March 27, 2019, 05:27:35 PM »
Sb600 effective date changed to July 1 2019 so it skips conference committee.  Now it goes to the final floor vote then governor's desk.

Sb1466 was expanded to enable educators and medical providers to request protective orders.  Goes to a floor vote then back to the Senate.

Getting no "no" votes is demoralizing.

There were about 5 or more HPD there, not sure why so many.  There were a lot of other bills up.
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London808

Re: *UPDATE* SB600, SB1466: BOTH PASSED, Wed., 27th, with amendments
« Reply #18 on: March 27, 2019, 06:12:24 PM »
Quote from: zippz on March 27, 2019, 05:27:35 PM
Sb600 effective date changed to July 1 2019 so it skips conference committee.  Now it goes to the final floor vote then governor's desk.

Sb1466 was expanded to enable educators and medical providers to request protective orders.  Goes to a floor vote then back to the Senate.

Getting no "no" votes is demoralizing.

There were about 5 or more HPD there, not sure why so many.  There were a lot of other bills up.

Maybe the major bought backup in case i showed up again.
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punaperson

Re: *UPDATE* SB600, SB1466: BOTH PASSED, Wed., 27th, with amendments
« Reply #19 on: March 27, 2019, 07:45:20 PM »
Quote from: zippz on March 27, 2019, 05:27:35 PM
Sb600 effective date changed to July 1 2019 so it skips conference committee.  Now it goes to the final floor vote then governor's desk.
I'm sure you meant to write: "Now it goes to the final floor vote, and if it passes the floor vote, then governor's desk."

Oh, wait... never mind.  >:(

The only question really, is, will it be unanimous, or will there be a "no" vote?

I think the "aye, with reservations" vote is both a cop out and stupid. That's like saying, "Well, that sucks... but sure, go ahead, I'm for it."
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