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Tools and Uses => Firearms and Accessories => Topic started by: S7ICKlVlAN on June 05, 2012, 05:20:35 PM
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Aloha gang, getting my choices narrowed down on a good weapon light for a few of my newer long guns. I think I'll be going with a Surefire Fury on my M6A2 and a Mini-Scout on my AK.
I was wondering what y'all are running and has it served it's intended purpose with it's features/function?
:shaka: :popcorn:
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For my handguns it's SF X300. Airsoft gun uses my old TLR-2 as I don't care if it gets shot out.
I'm thinking about picking up the new SF X300's this year as they bump up the output significantly to 500 candela.
Problem with the Fury is that two stage switch. I would need to be able to choose which output I want to run if I was to use that on a rifle. The upside is the Fury has a great amount of output.
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x5l gen 2 on the xdm
fenix pd32 mountd with a vltor offset mount on the pof 415 at the end of the forearm rail 3:00 position
fenix tk11 pressure switch with vltor mount on the top receiver on mossberg 500
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GZire - I agree. Wish that Fury came with a single setting. That's the only thing that's stopped me from buying and mounting already.
rswarrior - Got any pics brutha?
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X300 at 12 o'clock on my LMT MRP. It was a PITA to out on and I'm not looking forward to taking it off when I need to replace the batteries. I also have an X300 for my Glock 17.
I also have a Surefire G2X for another AR with a VLTOR Scout mount. I am planning on ordering a Haley Thorntail mount for the G2X as well.
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TLR-1
I like that it is so easy to take on/off if you want to switch to rifle or pistol rail.
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Yes I dig the TLR's. I'm actually running an M6X (Similar) on my G23.
Anyone running Elzetta lights? I was looking at the 3C with crenellated bezel and pressure switch as well.....
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GZire - I agree. Wish that Fury came with a single setting. That's the only thing that's stopped me from buying and mounting already.
rswarrior - Got any pics brutha?
As soon as the new X300 comes out I'm buying one. I think it's a good choice for a rifle, but need to check the spread of the beam at distance. With a handgun that new light might be too much output. I'm thinking you can blind yourself with splashback of the light off close objects with 500 candela.
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As soon as the new X300 comes out I'm buying one. I think it's a good choice for a rifle, but need to check the spread of the beam at distance. With a handgun that new light might be too much output. I'm thinking you can blind yourself with splashback of the light off close objects with 500 candela.
So the new X300 will be 500 lumens/candela? I think the current X300 at 170 lumens is bright enough for when I'm in my condo. I have other 200 lumen Surefire handheld lights and I agree that 500 lumens may be too bright for indoor use. I haven't tried the X300 outdoors yet though, but the G2X is great for finding my way around areas of my parents and grandmother's house that don't have good lighting.
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As soon as the new X300 comes out I'm buying one. I think it's a good choice for a rifle, but need to check the spread of the beam at distance. With a handgun that new light might be too much output. I'm thinking you can blind yourself with splashback of the light off close objects with 500 candela.
Werd. Well if it's a nice focused light and provided I can get at least 2 hours of runtime outta it, I would definitely jump on that as well. 500 is a sick amount of output for a light that size.
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So the new X300 will be 500 lumens/candela? I think the current X300 at 170 lumens is bright enough for when I'm in my condo. I have other 200 lumen Surefire handheld lights and I agree that 500 lumens may be too bright for indoor use. I haven't tried the X300 outdoors yet though, but the G2X is great for finding my way around areas of my parents and grandmother's house that don't have good lighting.
Yup the new X300 (Ultra) will be on par with the new Fury light. I did a night test of the Fury against my E2D LED and the difference is crazy.
http://www.lapolicegear.com/surefire-x300-ultra-light.html (http://www.lapolicegear.com/surefire-x300-ultra-light.html)
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Yup the new X300 (Ultra) will be on par with the new Fury light. I did a night test of the Fury against my E2D LED and the difference is crazy.
http://www.lapolicegear.com/surefire-x300-ultra-light.html (http://www.lapolicegear.com/surefire-x300-ultra-light.html)
Wow! I've heard of the Fury and I saw them at the gun show in March, but that was inside the Blaisdell and with the lights on. I can't imagine 500 lumens when 200 is pretty damn bright already. That would surely be quite blinding.
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OGC should have a couple of Fury flashlights.
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Surefire mini scout on my AK, surefire m961 on my AR, and streamlight m3 on my glock.
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Aloha gang, getting my choices narrowed down on a good weapon light for a few of my newer long guns. I think I'll be going with a Surefire Fury on my M6A2 and a Mini-Scout on my AK.
I was wondering what y'all are running and has it served it's intended purpose with it's features/function?
:shaka: :popcorn:
Take into consideration the fury is not weapon rated so there are reports of the settings from low to high and high to low switching between shots due to recoil. It has something to do with exposed circuitry in the head(the head by the way is not removable on the fury model). That being said I have a fury and it's AWESOME as a handheld light.
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Yup the new X300 (Ultra) will be on par with the new Fury light. I did a night test of the Fury against my E2D LED and the difference is crazy.
http://www.lapolicegear.com/surefire-x300-ultra-light.html (http://www.lapolicegear.com/surefire-x300-ultra-light.html)
Same here. The first thing I did was do a comparison outside at night with my e2dL when I bought it. The TIR lens on the e2dL makes the 200 lumens more of a focused beam. The fury is a little more floody but blew the e2dL away in terms of output. They are my two favorite surefire handhelds.
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As soon as the new X300 comes out I'm buying one. I think it's a good choice for a rifle, but need to check the spread of the beam at distance. With a handgun that new light might be too much output. I'm thinking you can blind yourself with splashback of the light off close objects with 500 candela.
I definitely will be getting the x300 ultra when it comes out also. wonder what the price is gonna be like? :shake:
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Surefire m951 with a Malkoff M61 over 200 lumens :thumbsup:
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Aloha all,
I have a Surefire M952 for my full length AR & a Inforce WML for my LE6940. I normally don't "run" them on my rifles on range days, especially the somewhat cumbersome M952. However, the WML is so compact & unobtrusive I pretty much leave it in place on my 6940. I really like the WML's switch as well, it's easy to use even without a remote... No wires to route, making for a nice clean install ;) Only bummer is it's not mega bright at 120 Lumens (think the M952 maybe the same). Good enough for me though :thumbsup:
Boomah :shaka:
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X300 at 12 o'clock on my LMT MRP. It was a PITA to out on and I'm not looking forward to taking it off when I need to replace the batteries. I also have an X300 for my Glock 17.
I also have a Surefire G2X for another AR with a VLTOR Scout mount. I am planning on ordering a Haley Thorntail mount for the G2X as well.
They have the Haley thorntail mounts in stock at security equipment. I picked up a dropwing yesterday and mounted it on the us palm AK rail top cover with my mini scout. Came out great. Perfect light position, and no need to change your grip to operate the light.
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They have the Haley thorntail mounts in stock at security equipment. I picked up a dropwing yesterday and mounted it on the us palm AK rail top cover with my mini scout. Came out great. Perfect light position, and no need to change your grip to operate the light.
Awesome! Thanks for the heads up. I'll have to swing by SEC to check it out.
I think the thorntail will work well and I like that you don't (or shouldn't) need to change your grip and that the attachment is further back than most light mounts.
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About to order a streamlight tlr1s and tlr3
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Awesome! Thanks for the heads up. I'll have to swing by SEC to check it out.
I think the thorntail will work well and I like that you don't (or shouldn't) need to change your grip and that the attachment is further back than most light mounts.
No problem :thumbsup:
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I got a TLR-1 on my 870 :thumbsup:
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No problem :thumbsup:
Stopped by SEC yesterday and picked up a Thorntail. The ring interferes with the flip up sight on one of my guns when I tried to mount the clip on the top rail. I have handguards on the side rails, but I think I may take that off and go to something like the ladders or the Larue clips. I have another gun with a FSP that the Thorntail would work on as well, but it's currently on it's way back to BCM for inspection. It's a solid mount though for sure.
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Stopped by SEC yesterday and picked up a Thorntail. The ring interferes with the flip up sight on one of my guns when I tried to mount the clip on the top rail. I have handguards on the side rails, but I think I may take that off and go to something like the ladders or the Larue clips. I have another gun with a FSP that the Thorntail would work on as well, but it's currently on it's way back to BCM for inspection. It's a solid mount though for sure.
I hear you on clearance,I have ladders on most of my guns, I like the lower profile compared to handgaurds or the magpul rail covers. Always wanted to try the Larue clips, but I never seen any locally. So far ive gotta say the Haley mount is holding up very well.
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I hear you on clearance,I have ladders on most of my guns, I like the lower profile compared to handgaurds or the magpul rail covers. Always wanted to try the Larue clips, but I never seen any locally. So far ive gotta say the Haley mount is holding up very well.
I have all ladders on my BCM, which I wanted to keep as light as possible. The Thorntail fits just fine with the FSP on that gun. Another gun that I was thinking of putting the Thorntail on has Troy rail covers and Troy flip-up sights. The Thorntail would fit ok if secured on the top rail, but it would obstruct the button to put the sights back down. >:(
I could mount it on the 9 o'clock rail, but then I'd have to go will all ladders or the Larue clips since that's where the Troy rail covers currently are. I'll decide after I get my BCM back after I send it off to them for another issue.
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For handguns i would only go surefire x300 and viridian x5l gen 2.
For rifles, i don't own any lights for them yet ::) but i'm planning on getting either a surefire scout M300 or M600 when they release the new versions that are 500 lumens or maybe a surefire RAID. I own 3 ar's and an arsenal AK and need to get one for each lol O0
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I have a 4sevens aa turbo in an Elzetta mount for the hd shotty. Great light for the price but the UI is a little weird. Wanted something that takes AA batteries so I can solar recharge on hiking trips. I'm going to get another one from 4sevens, but maybe a different kind since you can swap parts out between them.
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I'm runnin an Insight M6X on my M&P15....I like it a lot! :thumbsup:
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surefire LED (i think G2) on an Elzetta mount on my remington 870
viridian x5l gen2 on my P30
i highly recommend the viridian and the elzetta mount
any standard size flashlight will go in the elzetta
i think if i had to do it over again, i would get a light with higher lumens for my 870
I'm runnin an Insight M6X on my M&P15....I like it a lot! :thumbsup:
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don't know about the lumens, but i think i have the lower of the G2 range surefires
i think out of the 3 patterns shown, i would choose the middle
if you have a narrow middle beam, it can act somewhat like a laser on a handgun
you can see how the pattern matches the middle beam at different distances and use it as an aiming point
What would you consider ideal amount of lumens for the 870?
I was all over the place with regard to what I wanted in a weapon lights but these diagrams and corresponding definitions helped narrow down my options.
(http://www.streamlight.com/Static/Image/GenericImage/beam-types.jpg)
(http://www.streamlight.com/education/images/bulbs.gif)
“Lumens” of a bulb is a measurement of the entire output of the bulb. (Focus is not considered.)
“Lumens” of LEDs is a measurement of all the light inside the “beam angle”.
“Peak beam candlepower” is a measure of the brightest spot in a focused beam.
As my 870 will primarily used as my "go-to" for HD, I figured the TLR-1 HL (C4 LED that is supposedly impervious to shock; 12, 000 candela peak beam intensity and up to 630 lumens; a TIR optic that produces a concentrated beam with optimum peripheral illumination; and a $129.00 price tag!!), I figured that I could buy one to test and see if it was a worthwhile light.
Could also attach it to the G19 or SAR or anything with a picatinny/1913 rail, if necessary.
I guess I'll just have to wait 10 more days for the damn thing to ship!! :grrr:
Still interested to hear/see what others are using, too.
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For my Colt 6940: Streamlight TLR-1S w/KZ mount (Center/Front of Sight)
For my primary HD pistol (G30): Veridian C5L Laser/LED Light (Zombie Edition!!) >:D
For my Mossberg 590: Fenix TK-11
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What would you consider ideal amount of lumens for the 870?............................
I think this depends on where/how you intend on using the shotgun.
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SureFire 623LMG for my 590A1.
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Me personally?
HD positive target identification, only.
HD I think anything from 60 lumens up would be OK. Something to think about though is in a small enclosed environment with the potential for backsplash from light, you probably want to cap the light output, so personally for me I say 200 lumens max. The 500 lumens lights now are overkill indoors.
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HD I think anything from 60 lumens up would be OK. Something to think about though is in a small enclosed environment with the potential for backsplash from light, you probably want to cap the light output, so personally for me I say 200 lumens max. The 500 lumens lights now are overkill indoors.
+1
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On my AR I have a inforce wml (HSP version) on a thorntail mount, on my sig 226 I have a streamlight tlr-1s
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Mounted LED Lenser M5 to my shotgun
with a barrel clamp on mag tube...