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General Topics => General Discussion => Topic started by: ren on January 24, 2020, 07:49:53 AM
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https://www.hawaiinewsnow.com/2020/01/24/waianae-robbery-victim-says-despite-her-screams-no-one-stopped-help/ (https://www.hawaiinewsnow.com/2020/01/24/waianae-robbery-victim-says-despite-her-screams-no-one-stopped-help/)
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She should be armed. It's her place of business so CCW no problem. Even if her landlord says no, CCW no can see.
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For a person such as herself, I think pepper spray would be a better solution.
She would just need to carry it on her person while the shop is open.
Minimal cost and minimal training required.
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She should be armed. It's her place of business so CCW no problem. Even if her landlord says no, CCW no can see.
Suppose she did have a gun and used it. In this state she would be arrested, her gun confiscated,
and she'd lose several days pay on lawyers and court appearances.
Hawaii Cops are here to enforce the law, not to protect you.
I'd bet she could not get a CCW license from her police chief even after
this assault. She does have to leave her business to deposit her money.
Will a cop escort her? No.
I know I'm preaching to the choir here but I'm frustrated when I read about stuff
like this.
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We need more police! That the answer! Mental Illness and violent crime is just apart of the hawaiian style! We all poor and cant afford anything! And every job you need a college degree! SO A LIFE OF CRIME IS EASY! Back in the day of hawaiian kingdom it was a skill to steal from someone! It would show that the person was stupid or naïve that they go there stuff taxed!
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And someone screaming in waianae is a common thing! crazy and cronics everywhere!
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And someone screaming in waianae is a common thing! crazy and cronics everywhere!
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This is somewhat true, but really it has more to do with the usual "no get involved" attitude.
Nothing new or unusual about that.
What is new and unusual is the volume of violent or semi-violent crimes recently.
The proposed gun control measures don't really help this trend.
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Suppose she did have a gun and used it. In this state she would be arrested, her gun confiscated,
and she'd lose several days pay on lawyers and court appearances.
Hawaii Cops are here to enforce the law, not to protect you.
I'd bet she could not get a CCW license from her police chief even after
this assault. She does have to leave her business to deposit her money.
Will a cop escort her? No.
I know I'm preaching to the choir here but I'm frustrated when I read about stuff
like this.
I know a bar owner who was denied a CCW and she was told to hire an armored car service at 3am to pick up the nights cash income.
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I know a bar owner who was denied a CCW and she was told to hire an armored car service at 3am to pick up the nights cash income.
Theres a good reason for that because these armored car and armed security officers are retired _____ .
Giving CCW is like weaning people off welfare. Why would govt give up power?
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Theres a good reason for that because these armored car and armed security officers are retired _____ .
Giving CCW is like weaning people off welfare. Why would govt give up power?
The last time I saw one of these "services" I could have used an illegal gun,walked up, blew his brains
out, took his gun, took the money and walked away, knowing nobody could have identified or stopped me.
Luckily I'm one of the people that think this is a bad thing.
Hawaii is so easy.
Wait till you start getting Moslem Refugees here.
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She should get a big dog. :crazy:
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Hawaii Cops are here to enforce the law, not to protect you.
I guess the two who died last week forgot about that rule...
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https://www.hawaiinewsnow.com/2020/01/24/waianae-robbery-victim-says-despite-her-screams-no-one-stopped-help/ (https://www.hawaiinewsnow.com/2020/01/24/waianae-robbery-victim-says-despite-her-screams-no-one-stopped-help/)
People are timid and scared to intervene, this is actually a fairly common reaction.
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People are timid and scared to intervene, this is actually a fairly common reaction.
Maybe they were unarmed or afraid of getting sued?
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The last time I saw one of these "services" I could have used an illegal gun,walked up, blew his brains
out, took his gun, took the money and walked away, knowing nobody could have identified or stopped me.
Luckily I'm one of the people that think this is a bad thing.
Hawaii is so easy.
Wait till you start getting Moslem Refugees here.
LOL SO REAL! I SEE WEAK SPOTS IN THERE SYSTEM ALL THE TIME!
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Maybe they were unarmed or afraid of getting sued?
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Or armed and afraid of getting sued. This phenomenon exists beyond violent situations though, it has been documented in situations where there is no risk to the bystander.
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Or armed and afraid of getting sued. This phenomenon exists beyond violent situations though, it has been documented in situations where there is no risk to the bystander.
Not in hawaii. If someone was next door and they leave their place of business, they can become a felon. No customer is armed.
Or u talking about the mainland?
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For a person such as herself, I think pepper spray would be a better solution.
She would just need to carry it on her person while the shop is open.
Minimal cost and minimal training required.
I agree, in this case less than lethal would be a better option
If I owned a small business such as this one, I would be armed and carry a less than lethal option
I used to work in Waianae for 2 years back in early 2000's. I saw that place change. Homeless got way out of control. I saw some crazy stuff out there. But everyplace is getting worse lately.
Everyone in hawaii needs to wise up. Cops cant protect you. We need to take measures to protect ourselves
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I agree, in this case less than lethal would be a better option
If I owned a small business such as this one, I would be armed and carry a less than lethal option
I used to work in Waianae for 2 years back in early 2000's. I saw that place change. Homeless got way out of control. I saw some crazy stuff out there. But everyplace is getting worse lately.
Everyone in hawaii needs to wise up. Cops cant protect you. We need to take measures to protect ourselves
"Everyone in hawaii needs to wise up. Cops cant protect you. We need to take measures to protect ourselves".
Quit voting for Democrats. That is not going to happen, but the only way you can protect yourself in public
is to become a criminal. So what is the biggest threat? Cops or fellow Criminals?
In my mind the Cops are the biggest threat.
Full disclosure; My BIL is a Federal cop and I like him.
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"Everyone in hawaii needs to wise up. Cops cant protect you. We need to take measures to protect ourselves".
Quit voting for Democrats. That is not going to happen, but the only way you can protect yourself in public
is to become a criminal. So what is the biggest threat? Cops or fellow Criminals?
In my mind the Cops are the biggest threat.
Full disclosure; My BIL is a Federal cop and I like him.
How many people reading this do you think are now voting for Democrats???
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How many people reading this do you think are now voting for Democrats???
One,
EEF
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How many people reading this do you think are now voting for Democrats???
I was told to vote them in :rofl: :rofl:
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I was told to vote them in :rofl: :rofl:
Which union are you part of? ???
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Not in hawaii. If someone was next door and they leave their place of business, they can become a felon. No customer is armed.
Or u talking about the mainland?
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Shoot from inside the doorway :thumbsup:
But my main point was about people being hesitant to help others, its not merely for a lack of being allowed to be armed.
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One,
EEF
Not Likely.
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I vote for one.
Sam Kong. (D)
Representative
33rd District. (Aiea)
As pro-2A as they come.
Ask Zippz. Pretty sure He’ll vouge.
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Not Likely.
Noted.
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I vote for one.
Sam Kong. (D)
Representative
33rd District. (Aiea)
As pro-2A as they come.
Ask Zippz. Pretty sure He’ll vouge.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GuJQSAiODqI