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General Topics => General Discussion => Topic started by: mauiboi9 on April 17, 2020, 05:07:31 PM
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Just got an email Rainer arms has kn95 masks available to order individual or packs of 10
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The locusts must be swarming their site! No can get past the homepage..... :rofl: :rofl:
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Ok got thru... no need anyway but good to see they are available but the $$ is a little steep....oh well I got plenty of masks... supply and demand.... :thumbsup:
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Check out LA Police Gear. *Not sure of quality, but they have in stock.
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I couldn't get through the checkout. wanted to get some just in case something happens and have to go to the hospital. Thats our biggest source of infection which is the worst place to have it. Staff infected due to don't being able to use ppe at work and now our old folks home hale makua has been hit also. Just wanted to share if others didn't know was available.
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kryptek.com had cloth face masks for sale. Comes with replaceable filter also!
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I couldn't get through the checkout. wanted to get some just in case something happens and have to go to the hospital. Thats our biggest source of infection which is the worst place to have it. Staff infected due to don't being able to use ppe at work and now our old folks home hale makua has been hit also. Just wanted to share if others didn't know was available.
Mahalo Mauiboi9.
My ohana in Hana broke the news to me last week. I can't imagine Maui Memorial not having reserve PPE on hand. I knew at least two wards at the hospital was infected. Do you know if they have it under control?
Aloha.
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Mahalo Mauiboi9.
My ohana in Hana broke the news to me last week. I can't imagine Maui Memorial not having reserve PPE on hand. I knew at least two wards at the hospital was infected. Do you know if they have it under control?
Aloha.
So far half of our infected rate source all comes from maui memorial hospital atm.
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On a side note there are seamstresses here on oahu who are making cloth face masks with a zipper in the middle. Can stuff paper towels, napkin, or toilet paper. Not saying its better than a n95, but will last longer than having a dozen n95 masks and using them everyday.
I still dont use my issued masks 😂
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So far half of our infected rate source all comes from maui memorial hospital atm.
Mahalo. :shaka:
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On a side note there are seamstresses here on oahu who are making cloth face masks with a zipper in the middle. Can stuff paper towels, napkin, or toilet paper. Not saying its better than a n95, but will last longer than having a dozen n95 masks and using them everyday.
I still dont use my issued masks 😂
My mom been making cloth masks with pockets 12 hours a day for almost 4 weeks now. She found a hack where she can break apart air filters to stuff masks. Better rating than n95. Nephew has been passing it out to his crew at queens.
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My neighbor uses HEPA filter material she gets online from vacuum cleaner supply places. Sews in a full layer and so far it's like new through a half dozen washes.
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Be careful with hepa air filters, some contain fiberglass
You dont want to be inhaling fiberglass at close range
There are pm2.5 insert able filters you can use made specifically for cloth masks. They are same filter rating as n95
I have a few of these masks. Although filter rate is same, sealing off the air isn't as good as n95 bc it's not as tight
I also have some kn95, same as n95 just made in china
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I buy n95 masks from home depot for household work like sanding, grass cutting, grinding, etc. Retail is box of 20 for $20. This box lasts me for years so I only have a few left. Of course they are sold out now. But that's the regular price.
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If you're looking for local masks, look on CL
I got my cloth masks with pm2.5 insertable filters from a guy on CL
I ordered kn95 online, just gotta search to find a good price. So much gouging out there. I found some for less than $2 each, but sold out now
I work in health care and I'm not comfortable with the level of ppe we are provided, so I buy my own
At work I use n95 or kn95, outside work I use the cloth with the pm2.5 insert.
I probably seem a little paranoid about this to some people, but better to have and not need than to need and not have
Be safe everybody! :shaka:
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I have KN95 from a few suppliers and there are definite differences. Did some testing on them as well as masks that a friend bought at the Commissary. All passed the various performance tests that one can do, but one of my masks the fit was way worse than others. Yeah, not expecting the seal you get with fit test for N95, but one was so loose on my chin area that there was almost not direct contact. Then one of the masks from my buddy’s supply passed all, but then I tried to put it on to test, the ear loop came off super easy. Actually, 3 of the 4 loop connection points came off so easy that I don’t think it would’ve held on someone’s face.
Is the KN95 needed? For me and what exposure I expect, not really. That said, I wanted to have some on hand in addition to the cloth masks that I got when the face mask orders started coming down.
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Be careful with hepa air filters, some contain fiberglass
You dont want to be inhaling fiberglass at close range
There are pm2.5 insert able filters you can use made specifically for cloth masks. They are same filter rating as n95
I have a few of these masks. Although filter rate is same, sealing off the air isn't as good as n95 bc it's not as tight
I also have some kn95, same as n95 just made in china
Shop towels (Blue and another brand) did pretty well in testing of DIY type masks for filtration. I thought that was pretty interesting.
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Be careful with hepa air filters, some contain fiberglass
You dont want to be inhaling fiberglass at close range
There are pm2.5 insert able filters you can use made specifically for cloth masks. They are same filter rating as n95
I have a few of these masks. Although filter rate is same, sealing off the air isn't as good as n95 bc it's not as tight
I also have some kn95, same as n95 just made in china
Thanks, good to know.
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Personally I think this is all Horseshit.
If you had read some of my comments you know I helped my Microbiologist
degreed dad on his senior project. Typhus mutations.
If you are sick wear a mask, if not don't waste something someone else can
use.
It is real simple, you get infected by ingesting the virus.
be it picking your nose or eating food sneezed on.
The world is filthy with viruses and other "Germs".
Always has been, always will be.
an example
Both my wife and I had Chicken pox as kids, I have scars from it, she doesn't.
we are nearly the same age, in our mid 60's. We both still
are infected with that Virus,
She suffered from " Shingles",
I have not. We had to keep her "quarantined"
as many adults today haven't had chicken pox
and it can be deadly for adults never infected.
I didn't have to worry, so other than me doing
more chores than usual
LIfe went unchanged.
This virus may well be like chicken pox.
The shutdown hasn't affected me, but it certainty
has destroyed about 1/3 of Hawaiian state citizens
income stream.
Once things work out all the Government critters will
figure out where their money comes from.
People out of work don't pay taxes, buy things, or seek
out services.
Hope you remember that when Democrats want to be elected
in November.
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Shop towels (Blue and another brand) did pretty well in testing of DIY type masks for filtration. I thought that was pretty interesting.
Thanks. I have a few rolls of shop towels
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Thanks. I have a few rolls of shop towels
https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-8187603/amp/Designers-say-layers-blue-shop-towels-inside-cotton-masks-help-effectiveness-homemade-PPEs.html
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Be careful with hepa air filters, some contain fiberglass
You dont want to be inhaling fiberglass at close range
She confirmed that she uses Kirby HEPA filters, cut from sheets of material (not from bags). No fiberglass. There's a lot of YT videos about this.
She's probably sewn 8-900 so far. :thumbsup:
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I didn't expect to see this much action in the post. With people share their knowledge.
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each HEPA filter is different. some are ok with particle filler mostly a paper material, some have fiberglass, some carbon.
if you look up close and rub the filter some, you can see the fiberglass hairs on the ones that are fiberglass.
some have a material data sheet which show the materials exactly.
I seen one on YouTube with a 3m HEPA filter, the material data sheet was provided with no fiberglass.
I ordered the pm2.5 filters bc they are made for inserting into masks. they are pretty cheap. the shop towels are a good option too with 93% filtering, that's pretty good and I have some rolls of shop towels at home
I also saw a study where they use N95 vs regular surgical mask which are only 70% filtering, and nurses contracted the flu at about the same rate with either mask
the result of the study was there was no significant difference in using N95 or surgical when contracting the flu. there was slightly more contracting the flu wearing surgical mask but only a few percent, so was insignificant outcome
the virus itself is a small particle, but is attached to spit so the mask even if its not N95 will trap the spit and the virus bc its on the spit. that is the theory behind this study.
but i'm still going to wear my N95
at work I wear the N95 with a surgical mask on top. :shaka:
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each HEPA filter is different. some are ok with particle filler mostly a paper material, some have fiberglass, some carbon.
if you look up close and rub the filter some, you can see the fiberglass hairs on the ones that are fiberglass.
some have a material data sheet which show the materials exactly.
I seen one on YouTube with a 3m HEPA filter, the material data sheet was provided with no fiberglass.
I ordered the pm2.5 filters bc they are made for inserting into masks. they are pretty cheap. the shop towels are a good option too with 93% filtering, that's pretty good and I have some rolls of shop towels at home
I also saw a study where they use N95 vs regular surgical mask which are only 70% filtering, and nurses contracted the flu at about the same rate with either mask
the result of the study was there was no significant difference in using N95 or surgical when contracting the flu. there was slightly more contracting the flu wearing surgical mask but only a few percent, so was insignificant outcome
the virus itself is a small particle, but is attached to spit so the mask even if its not N95 will trap the spit and the virus bc its on the spit. that is the theory behind this study.
but i'm still going to wear my N95
at work I wear the N95 with a surgical mask on top. :shaka:
The most effective layer in an N95 is the melt-blown polypropylene layer. While the layer is porous compared to the other layers, it's ionically charged at the time of manufacture. The negatively-charged flu/CV particles are trapped in that layer by the ionic charge and are inactivated within 5 minutes of contact.
The melt-blown polypropylene layer is about 90% effective on its own. Combine that with the other 3 layers in an N95 certified mask, and that's where the 95%+ rating comes from.
It would have been great to make that melt-blown material known and available to the general public for use in homemade masks. It would have put the whole "works/doesn't work" debate to bed very early in this mess.
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Personally I think this is all Horseshit.
If you had read some of my comments you know I helped my Microbiologist
degreed dad on his senior project. Typhus mutations.
If you are sick wear a mask, if not don't waste something someone else can
use.
It is real simple, you get infected by ingesting the virus.
be it picking your nose or eating food sneezed on.
The world is filthy with viruses and other "Germs".
Always has been, always will be.
an example
Both my wife and I had Chicken pox as kids, I have scars from it, she doesn't.
we are nearly the same age, in our mid 60's. We both still
are infected with that Virus,
She suffered from " Shingles",
I have not. We had to keep her "quarantined"
as many adults today haven't had chicken pox
and it can be deadly for adults never infected.
I didn't have to worry, so other than me doing
more chores than usual
LIfe went unchanged.
This virus may well be like chicken pox.
The shutdown hasn't affected me, but it certainty
has destroyed about 1/3 of Hawaiian state citizens
income stream.
Once things work out all the Government critters will
figure out where their money comes from.
People out of work don't pay taxes, buy things, or seek
out services.
Hope you remember that when Democrats want to be elected
in November.
Yup the stinking demoncraps will start making up for lost $$ in the way of increased property tax, increased GET tax, taxing retirements and COLA income etc etc. One way or another they will find a way to get their dick beaters into our wallets, ignore our protests and vote themselves a nice little raise while they’re at it! They have no fear because they know that two thirds of Hawaii voters either don’t want to rock the boat, too politically stupid to know how to rock the boat or too damn lazy to rock the boat! In other words, we're screwed...... >:(
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Yup the stinking demoncraps will start making up for lost $$ in the way of increased property tax, increased GET tax, taxing retirements and COLA income etc etc. One way or another they will find a way to get their dick beaters into our wallets, ignore our protests and vote themselves a nice little raise while they’re at it! They have no fear because they know that two thirds of Hawaii voters either don’t want to rock the boat, too politically stupid to know how to rock the boat or too damn lazy to rock the boat! In other words, we're screwed...... >:(
When your government is powerful enough to give you everything you want, they are also powerful enough to take away everything you need.
Dependency is never a viable long term plan.
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When your government is powerful enough to give you everything you want, they are also powerful enough to take away everything you need.
Dependency is never a viable long term plan.
:thumbsup:
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Personally I think this is all Horseshit.
AGREED
It is real simple, you get infected by ingesting the virus.
be it picking your nose or eating food sneezed on.
The world is filthy with viruses and other "Germs".
Always has been, always will be.
an example
Both my wife and I had Chicken pox as kids, I have scars from it, she doesn't.
we are nearly the same age, in our mid 60's. We both still
are infected with that Virus,
She suffered from " Shingles",
I have not. We had to keep her "quarantined"
as many adults today haven't had chicken pox
and it can be deadly for adults never infected.
I didn't have to worry, so other than me doing
more chores than usual
LIfe went unchanged.
This virus may well be like chicken pox.
I too have been scarred by the pox.
I still remember how my mom and others sent us kids over to the neighbors to GET infected as noted in my "Hard Choice " poll. https://2ahawaii.com/index.php?topic=36564.0
I got it real bad, my sister didn't.
My mom had it bad too and just last year came down with shingles really bad, almost blinding.
Scared my semi-anti vax sis into getting the shingles shot.
We just completed ours vacs last month.
I think there is too much emphasis on the masks. I mean, you're more likely to touch something that an infected person has left virus on then touch one of your mucous membranes (nose, eye, mouth etc...) than walk thru an airborne particle sneezed out by someone within 6 ft.
I see this all the time like when at the store once a week for beer ESSENTIALS. ;)
Actually had a lady ask me to step back as my foot was stepping on the 6' demarcation "death" line. :o
We were both wearing masks and gloves but as she paid, she took off her glove, reached into her purse and pulled her ID and CC out of baggie and handed to clerk.
Clerk needed authorization so ID and CC were also handed to counter manager before being returned to her which she carefully returned to their plastic stronghold, then back to her purse.
She then picked up the wrong pen to sign the CC kiosk, dropped it and grabbed the correct pen and signed.
THEN SHE PUT HER GLOVE BACK ON ! :wtf:
Was tempted to warn her about her protocol but thought Darwinism it would be the same as altering mind set of anti-2a person.