I just wish they would do more to reduce the actual price, not just hide the price in our taxes. Insulin is so old its out of patent and it costs a few dollars to produce a vial.
The orders signed Friday afternoon included allowing certain drugs to be imported from Canada and making
changes to the way discounts negotiated by middlemen called pharmacy benefit managers are passed on to
Medicare patients.
The most radical order involves requiring Medicare to pay the same price for some drugs — the ones patients
receive in the hospital as part of Medicare Part B — that other countries pay. However, Trump said he is giving
the pharmaceutical industry until Aug. 24 to make a deal with him before he implements it.
You didn't read the Executive Order, did you?
https://www.npr.org/2020/07/24/895290378/trump-signs-executive-orders-on-drug-prices
Nothing is being "hidden" now. In fact, the exact opposite is true. No longer are drug prices obscured. What they pay is what patients pay, not some accounting aggregate of inflated ancillary costs bundled with drug prices.
We aren't subsidizing high prices for Medicare. The costs of drugs are bring reduced.
Period.
I see, well in that case, great job! Hopefully we will see an improvement across the board, not just medicare.
This should be news headline shiit in Hawaii, I would assume, where diabetes is widespread.Thanks Hound for asking. We are doing well in the new digs. The wife is busy decorating and buying shit we don’t need. We have a nice looking place tho. So I guess it’s okay. 😂
Good News Inspector.
Hope and the wife are doing well in your abode. Sounds like you are though. :shaka:
Wow! That's great news! That's quite a positive impact!Thanks for asking. She is doing better. She lost 70 pounds of water weight and has gained a little back but she is fighting it. They keep adjusting her drugs to keep the water off. We are planning on doing some traveling after lockdowns are over.
How is she doing overall? Hope she's recovering nicely, or at least as best as possible.
My sister has been on insulin since she was little. Not sure what her co-pays are like as I believe she's been on private insurance all her life. Still overall good news for millions of Americans.
Glad you just demonstrated that you have no problem posting your "informed" opinion, and then are able to retract it after your opinion is proven to be based on ignorance, lies and made up BS.
You should do some serious reflecting on how wrong you were on this issue, and perhaps question whether the "facts" you based other opinions were just as wrong.
This is very awesome and important news. Of course the mainstream media is totally ignoring it..
I am glad you are so easily amazed that someone will correct their statements when they get more information.
If you paid attention to my comment though, you will see never once did I mention medicare for starters. Furthermore I referenced the the low cost of insulin production vs the high cost people are charged for it. How about you be a little less short sighted and realize maybe I wasn't just talking about medicare but insulin prices as a whole. A drop in the price to medicare plan holders doesn't mean a drop for everyone. Don't get me wrong, if Trump brought around savings to both medicare members as well as the government (and therefore the taxpayers) than that is great but that doesn't solve the problem of insulin price for everyone not on medicare. But I guess you can't be bothered by those little details because then you wouldn't get to start flame wars on the internet. You would rather be dishonest and bicker, we all know that is your MO.
The lower prices are not going to be limited to Medicare beneficiaries. That's just the standard they are using to start the process. Once again, do some REAL research, and stop posting uninformed opinions.
Everyone will be benefiting from the lower prices. Trump can only affect the programs under his control. It'll take the PEOPLE forcing CONGRESS to adopt similar standards for everyone to benefit.
Trump can only do so much without Congress.
Did a quick google search and plenty of mainstream media has articles about it. CNN, Washington Post, etc.
Thanks Hound for asking. We are doing well in the new digs. The wife is busy decorating and buying shit we don’t need. We have a nice looking place tho. So I guess it’s okay. 😂Well, you better add a nice gun closet to your "list". ;D
Thanks for asking. She is doing better. She lost 70 pounds of water weight and has gained a little back but she is fighting it. They keep adjusting her drugs to keep the water off. We are planning on doing some traveling after lockdowns are over.That's good to hear! Excellent to hear that you folks are making plans to travel. Enjoy the retired life! Can I start calling ya "granpaw"? :rofl:
When I had my wife on private insurance her copays were $25 & $35. And she was on another drug that the copay was $65. But the nice thing with private insurance was we could get a 90 day supply with the one copay. And you could get prescriptions by mail and in some cases they waived the copay. Medicare the copay is per month so it doesn’t help you to order 90 days ahead.
Well, you better add a nice gun closet to your "list". ;DGot a couple more incoming so I am going to have to start making room for a another safe!
That's good to hear! Excellent to hear that you folks are making plans to travel. Enjoy the retired life! Can I start calling ya "granpaw"? :rofl:
This is very awesome and important news. Of course the mainstream media is totally ignoring it..Agreed. They totally ignored it when President Trump signed the EO. I watch the news every day. I watch the business channels mostly. FBN was all over it. CNBC, crickets. MSNBC, crickets. CNN, bashed Trump for being a tyrant/ruler for signing another EO. Said it would increase the cost of insulin. And it would raise our taxes. The only thing worse than not mentioning something good is mentioning it but redirecting the significance and then lying about the reality of things.
Got a couple more incoming so I am going to have to start making room for a another safe!Better yet, a gun ROOM! ;D
Well, since you are a young whipper snapper I guess you can call me “Granpaw”. :rofl:
Better yet, a gun ROOM! ;DThis is my gun room.
I do miss meeting up with you and the black powder guys. Great group of gun enthusiasts!
This is my gun room.I see a lot of clean wall space without guns! 🤔
Better yet, a gun ROOM! ;DYeah I miss my BP Bruddahs. We always had some interesting guns to shoot. The amount of knowledge between all the old guys was tremendous as well. We always welcomed everyone and encouraged them to come shoot our guns. What a treat that was. :shaka:
I do miss meeting up with you and the black powder guys. Great group of gun enthusiasts!
Yeah I miss my BP Bruddahs. We always had some interesting guns to shoot. The amount of knowledge between all the old guys was tremendous as well. We always welcomed everyone and encouraged them to come shoot our guns. What a treat that was. :shaka:Was cool too when you and the other BP guys enjoyed shooting my "new fangled" guns. ;D
Was cool too when you and the other BP guys enjoyed shooting my "new fangled" guns. ;DI can say without hesitation that they are all good people. As a matter of fact I can say you were an honorary member of our group. :shaka:
Not sure if I ever told you, but in like my second or third trip to the range, I shot next to one of your BP buddies. He shot my AR and I shot his bolt action .223. That started my interest in bolt actions. Cool dudes.
I can say without hesitation that they are all good people. As a matter of fact I can say you were an honorary member of our group. :shaka:Well, they shared their coffee and donuts with me, so I'd say so. ;D
Having to search for it huh? Exactly my point..... SMHJust like SA's acknowledgement of 9/11, buried deep in their worthless "news" rag.
The media has yet to develop the technology to beam news straight into my brain so yes, I had to go look at news sources to find the story.
Point is that you should check to see if other news sources really aren't reporting it before claiming they aren't and are therefore biased.
The media has social media, tv stations, Twitter, et al.
We hear 57 times a day about covid. Yet a medication that benefits millions becoming affordable, and saves millions of lives is not given the same or even more exposure? Yeah, it shows what bias there are here. SMH.
How do you know they aren't giving the same exposure? Do you consume all news outlets equally? Saying you never saw it therefore bias doesn't mean anything unless you are really checking multiple news sources. I am not making the case that CNN isn't biased though, rather I am hoping we can elevate our critical thinking above the level of assuming that because you didn't see it on CNN that they didn't cover it and therefore are pushing some narrative. That just digs us further into out foxholes.
On top of that, claiming bias based on what is and isn't covered can be problematic. There are so many things that could be covered that a news outlet has to pick and choose which stories they are going to run. This leaves the door open to claims of bias all the time because one side can always point out something the other side didn't cover.
Consider also that social media is smart. They figure out your preferences and show you more stuff that goes along your beliefs/hobies/etc. So if you normally look at Fox news you are probably going to get more Fox stories and fewer CNN stories. This is great because you can focus on products/news/sports you are interested in, the downside is that it can give us a false sense of the situation.
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Trump announced last year that Medicare beneficiaries would be receiving a debit card soon with $200 credit to be used for drug and other medical expenses.I had not heard that. Can I use it to buy boolits?
$200 isn't a massive amount, but it's better than $0.00. Plus, that's another $200 per person that makes it out of DC and goes into the economy.
:thumbsup:
I had not heard that. Can I use it to buy boolits?
Interesting that Trump did mention this specifically during the debate.