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General Topics => Political Discussion => Topic started by: Flapp_Jackson on October 01, 2020, 06:36:15 PM
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Hope Hicks, one of the President's top White House aids, has tested positive for COVID-19.
Mr. and Mrs. Trump have taken tests, and they will self-quarantine as they await the results.
Wonderful! Now he finally has time to catch up on Twitter! :rofl:
Mike Pence was unavailable for comment, but he was seen measuring the oval office curtains..... :shake:
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https://www.hawaiinewsnow.com/2020/10/01/top-white-house-official-tests-positive-coronavirus/
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awwww damnn.....its Biden's fault. That's what he had under his sleeve....the Covid19 :grrr:
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Considering it's been reported that as many as 70%-90% of positive COVID-19 tests are actually closer to negative (aka false-positives), both are probably fine.
Your Coronavirus Test Is Positive. Maybe It Shouldn’t Be.
The PCR test amplifies genetic matter from the virus in cycles; the fewer cycles required, the greater the amount of
virus, or viral load, in the sample. The greater the viral load, the more likely the patient is to be contagious.
This number of amplification cycles needed to find the virus, called the cycle threshold, is never included in the results
sent to doctors and coronavirus patients, although it could tell them how infectious the patients are.
In three sets of testing data that include cycle thresholds, compiled by officials in Massachusetts, New York and Nevada,
up to 90 percent of people testing positive carried barely any virus, a review by The Times found.
https://www.nytimes.com/2020/08/29/health/coronavirus-testing.html
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awwww damnn.....its Biden's fault. That's what he had under his sleeve....the Covid19 :grrr:
I noticed Jill Biden was the only one of the two couples to wear a mask at the debate.
I also noticed she and Milania were together when going between the stage and the audience seats.
I wonder if Jill knew to protect herself so only Milania would get it -- and of course give it to the president.
I also wonder if Hope Hicks was infected before or after the Trumps. I guess they can't really know that for certain.
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I think it was that slimy Chris Wallace. He had the Covid in his pocket.
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I hope the President and the First Lady didn't get infected. With the election less than 5 weeks away it would be awful if they get sick.
It's already hard to run the country and campaign at the same time, it would be nuts if it has to be done while quarantined or sick.
Or does Pence step in...?
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I hope the President and the First Lady didn't get infected. With the election less than 5 weeks away it would be awful if they get sick.
It's already hard to run the country and campaign at the same time, it would be nuts if it has to be done while quarantined or sick.
Or does Pence step in...?
Trump and the first lady have covid
https://2ahawaii.com/index.php?topic=38279.0
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I hope the President and the First Lady didn't get infected. With the election less than 5 weeks away it would be awful if they get sick.
It's already hard to run the country and campaign at the same time, it would be nuts if it has to be done while quarantined or sick.
Or does Pence step in...?
News said the First Couple have tested positive. The President is expected to continue his duties while in quarantine.
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HCQ + Zinc + Vit C + Vit D
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HCQ + Zinc + Vit C + Vit D
+ azithromycin
+ ivermectin
+dexamethasone
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HCQ + Zinc + Vit C + Vit D
A Study of Hydroxychloroquine, Vitamin C, Vitamin D, and Zinc
for the Prevention of COVID-19 Infection
https://clinicaltrials.gov/ct2/show/NCT04335084
A bit late for prevention, huh? :shaka:
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+ azithromycin
+ ivermectin
+dexamethasone
Yeah, but you’re not a real doctor
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Yeah, but you’re not a real doctor
heads
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Have already heard re
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This is bad for Trump as he will miss future debates which give Biden a chance to screw up. Trump screwed up the last debate losing a little ground. It's a close race and he needs to gain a few points.
I hope Pence locks himself in a room alone. If Trump and Pence are taken out, it's Pelosi next in line. Might mess up the SCOTUS confirmation too if we lose one more senator.
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Trump will be fine. How do I know,
So far, only Pelosi and minimal fake news is talking negative about it. The main fake news isn't really saying much besides facts, like he is positive and so is FLOTUS. Like on my news feeds, not much bad talk about Trump and CV. Normally the fake news would be printing stories as of last night on the typical stuff like Pelosi is saying. They are not biting. Neither is Biden and other wack job DNC senators like Waters, Ohmar, AOC, etc... Yet anyways. PRetty much it's only TDS'ers that are talking negative about it. Of which would not vote for Trump anyways. This actually might push those on the fence about Biden or Trump to Trumps side seeing how TDS'ers are reacting. That's why the media is not doing their normal fake news story. The media knows this and doesn't want to push those votes toward Trump.
Imagine if Trump didn't catch CV, but Biden caught it first. Biden's crew would use it to their advantage and play the sympathy card hard. I'm sure he probably wouldn't even have it, but they would make like he does to get votes.
Trumps have the best medicine and care possible. Probably even got some cool stuff we don't even know about. What ever he and FLOTUS use, will be said and if its HCQ, which he already admitted to be taking, it will further his statement about it. Of which many fake news denies works and the NV governor banned it's usage unless at a medical center, until recently.
Trump is master at 4D chess, and already has SOP's ready to go in case he were to catch CV and needed to run the country from isolation.
The only thing that can harm this country is if he dies from it. He is in the age range that has a higher chance of dying, and his weight isn't the best . He's not fat, but he aint skinny either.
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This is bad for Trump as he will miss future debates which give Biden a chance to screw up. Trump screwed up the last debate losing a little ground. It's a close race and he needs to gain a few points.
I hope Pence locks himself in a room alone. If Trump and Pence are taken out, it's Pelosi next in line. Might mess up the SCOTUS confirmation too if we lose one more senator.
Trump actually gained 0.5% or more in his favorability polling after the debate, which was the predicted bump many expected.
He also gained 3% points in the Presidential race standings.
https://www.breitbart.com/politics/2020/10/02/poll-trump-gains-after-debate-as-race-swings-3-points-presidents-way/
This comment sounds more like an assumption, or maybe your personal assessment of Trump. The stats say otherwise.
He didn't gain 10 points, but he in no way lost ground.
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Dan Bergonio had a good vid about the debate. Basially he had friends tell him that trump tanked. So he asked them if they're still going to vote for Trump and the response was yes. So he said, then Trump didn't tank.
He also mentioned those with TDS are going to vote Biden no matter what anyways. So the debate was mainly to get those who are unknown side to vote for Trump. And to increase those who do support him to get out and vote, instead of supporting, but not voting at all.
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I guess HIPAA laws don't apply when your president...
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Odd how only Republicans in DC are getting infected :-X
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I guess HIPAA laws don't apply when your president...
That's the fact, Jack.
The people have the right to know if the person running the country, or running a campaining to become that person, is physically fit.
Still waiting for Biden to publish results of a cognitive ability test.
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Trump paid supporters outside Walter Reed Hospital a visit today -- well, more like a drive-by.
Trump may be released from the hospital by Monday. :thumbsup:
Although, if you're on Twitter, you may have been lead to believe Trump is in a coma, he's unable to be president and Pence should have been sworn in to replace him, or Trump's already dead.
This is why I'm no longer on Twitter or FB. If a Trump supporters asks the question "Where's Hunter?", they get banned. But post conspiracy theories about Trump's health, and you get thousands of likes and retweets/shares.
:wtf:
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I noticed online news articles put out clickbait headlines like "trump condition worse than what was said".
Then the truth is buried several paragraphs down in the story.
...shameful sensationalistic faux journalism.
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I noticed online news articles put out clickbait headlines like "trump condition worse than what was said".
Then the truth is buried several paragraphs down in the story.
...shameful sensationalistic faux journalism.
It's all about the clicks. It's how they make money.
We all know this, but people can't help but reward fake news by clicking it.
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It's all about the clicks. It's how they make money.
We all know this, but people can't help but reward fake news by clicking it.
I run Ununtu 18.04, 14.04, or Mint.
I use duckduckgo, Yippy, or Tor for Browsers.
I have adblock.
I don't see any adverts.
Even the ones they try to sneak in, I can turn off Javascript.
If they get money for my clicks, someone is getting ripped off.
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I run Ununtu 18.04, 14.04, or Mint.
I use duckduckgo, Yippy, or Tor for Browsers.
I have adblock.
I don't see any adverts.
Even the ones they try to sneak in, I can turn off Javascript.
If they get money for my clicks, someone is getting ripped off.
I also use duckduckgo vs. Google.
I use the BRAVE version of the Chrome browser, which blocks all kinds of scripts, ads and trackers.
Plus I use PiHole to remove entire domains used by advertisers.
PiHole is the bomb. It blocks ads on ALL my devices and apps, not just browsers.
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That's the fact, Jack.
The people have the right to know if the person running the country, or running a campaining to become that person, is physically fit.
Still waiting for Biden to publish results of a cognitive ability test.
Still waiting for Clintoon's and the Kenyan's health, STD and drug test results. All were kept conspicuously secret.
Should not the public know what sort is in the oval office?
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Still waiting for Clintoon's and the Kenyan's health, STD and drug test results. All were kept conspicuously secret.
Should not the public know what sort is in the oval office?
Yep. We don't need the leader of the free world presenting a weak and drug-dependent persona.
Imagine Joe trying to negotiate a trade deal or cease fire, and rambling on with, "You know! The thing! C'mon, man!"
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Did Trump really have COVID?
Trump tweeted Monday afternoon. “Feeling really good! Don’t be afraid of Covid. Don’t let it dominate your life. We have developed, under the Trump Administration, some really great drugs & knowledge. I feel better than I did 20 years ago!”
https://twitter.com/realDonaldTrump/status/1313186529058136070
Going back to White House after three days in hospital. (And an extracurricular car ride)
3D Chess ? 8)
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If Biden or Harris tested positive the media wouldnt report anything on it. Or they would blame Pres Trump
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At least that was a better distraction than more violence. . .
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Did Trump really have COVID?
Trump tweeted Monday afternoon. “Feeling really good! Don’t be afraid of Covid. Don’t let it dominate your life. We have developed, under the Trump Administration, some really great drugs & knowledge. I feel better than I did 20 years ago!”
https://twitter.com/realDonaldTrump/status/1313186529058136070
Going back to White House after three days in hospital. (And an extracurricular car ride)
3D Chess ? 8)
If youi have to question whether Trump has COVID-19 or is playing 4D Chess,
you've already lost the game.
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At least that was a better distraction than more violence. . .
Unfortunately, the violence continues.
The MSM now sees that after 130+ days of riots and "unrest", people are bored of it. So, they're shifting their focus to everything else that comes along.
Clicks, baby! :geekdanc:
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If Biden or Harris tested positive the media wouldnt report anything on it. Or they would blame Pres Trump
Now that a few WH press pool "journalists" tested positive, along with more WH staffers (McEnany), and a bunch of workers from the Presidential debate, it's obvious it's all Trump's fault! :wacko:
With a survival rate better than the annual flu (even without a vaccine), it's not about prevention. We need to isolate the "high risk of mortality" population, but the rest need to stay otherwise healthy and treat COVID when, not if, they get it.
Until there's a COVID-19 vaccine, the best we can do is avoid the wildfire by letting the disease continue with "controlled burns." That's what the masks and social distancing accomplishes: reducing the rate of infection -- NOT prevention.
Of course, the MSM wants us to believe we're fighting ebola, and that you have a better chance of dying from it than not (pay no attention to the actual stats). God knows when the next pandemic will happen. This might be the only one in their lifetime. Gotta capitalize on it before the vaccine comes out.
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If Biden or Harris tested positive the media wouldnt report anything on it. Or they would blame Pres Trump
I don’t think Biden would make it.
Definite blame on Trump.
At least that was a better distraction than more violence. . .
:thumbsup:
If youi have to question whether Trump has COVID-19 or is playing 4D Chess,
you've already lost the game.
Youi Is that a word ? ( inside joke on the English Major)
Don’t have to do anything.
Just throwing that conspiracy crap out there.
Who else you know of cleared quarantine in 3 days ? (Less if you count the car ride.)
4D Chess.
Hope the aids and McEnany get the experimental stuff the President got.
One, need more guinea pigs and Two, can’t lose McEnany she’s too sharp and well spoken.
I lost the game.....you already got on your knees and unzipped the President. You’re swallowing whatever he’s spewing.
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I don’t think Biden would make it.
Definite blame on Trump.
:thumbsup:
Youi Is that a word ? ( inside joke on the English Major)
Who else you know of cleared quarantine in 3 days ? (Less if you count the car ride.)
4D Chess.
Hope the aids and McEnany get the experimental stuff the President got.
One, need more guinea pigs and Two, can’t lose McEnany she’s too sharp and well spoken.
I lost the game.....you already got on your knees and unzipped the President. You’re swallowing whatever he’s spewing.
Who said Trump "cleared quarantine?"
Is that what his doctor said, or did you just assume he's not isolated in the WH the next 1-2 weeks?
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SNIP
you already got on your knees and unzipped the President. You’re swallowing whatever he’s spewing.
Monica been there and swallowed that.
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Monica been there and swallowed that.
Think she mighta burped it as wasn’t it still on the dress ?
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https://twitter.com/realDonaldTrump/status/1313267615083761665?s=20
4D Chess.
And he’s not quarantining unless he films with a selfie stick.
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https://twitter.com/realDonaldTrump/status/1313267615083761665?s=20
4D Chess.
And he’s not quarantining unless he films with a selfie stick.
How many people do you see in that video?
Ever hear of a tripod?
Can you count to one?
Damn, you're stupid.
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Trump: Don't be afraid of COVID-19. Don't let it run your lives.
MSM: Disgraceful! Disrespectful! It SHOULD run your life!
We need a new verb for these media clowns. "Triggered!!" just doesn't do them justice.
https://youtu.be/SWY7ohZCnx0
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https://www.americanthinker.com/blog/2020/10/speculation_mounts_about_the_source_of_president_trumps_illness.html
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He was like gasping for air. Its the steroids I bet he goes back to the hospital. He should of stayed there for more care for longer....Also the trip around the hospital in his car was completely moronic idk how flapp can even spin this one for his messiah.
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He was like gasping for air. Its the steroids I bet he goes back to the hospital. He should of stayed there for more care for longer....Also the trip around the hospital in his car was completely moronic idk how flapp can even spin this one for his messiah.
What’s with everyone losing their minds over the car ride? Am I missing something here?
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https://www.americanthinker.com/blog/2020/10/speculation_mounts_about_the_source_of_president_trumps_illness.html
CMO is gonna run out and buy cases of tinfoil and never gonna leave his tinfoil cocoon.
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What’s with everyone losing their minds over the car ride? Am I missing something here?
Because, like, oh my gosh. He totally, like put those poor Secret Service agents are risk. Like totally dude. That’s, like, uh, totally like cray cray.
BTW, talking like a millennial isn’t easy. Haha
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He was like gasping for air. Its the steroids I bet he goes back to the hospital. He should of stayed there for more care for longer....Also the trip around the hospital in his car was completely moronic idk how flapp can even spin this one for his messiah.
Did you know that the WH has a medical unit and urgent care center?
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He was like gasping for air. Its the steroids I bet he goes back to the hospital. He should of stayed there for more care for longer....Also the trip around the hospital in his car was completely moronic idk how flapp can even spin this one for his messiah.
is this bet open for 8 years like your supreme court bet?
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is this bet open for 8 years like your supreme court bet?
I'll be that I have to visit a hospital in the next 8 years.
You're so meen. . . :rofl:
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is this bet open for 8 years like your supreme court bet?
Nah not doing bets on this, Too much uncertainty.
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Because, like, oh my gosh. He totally, like put those poor Secret Service agents are risk. Like totally dude. That’s, like, uh, totally like cray cray.
BTW, talking like a millennial isn’t easy. Haha
Okay if we ignore the fact he did put those people in risk cause apparently unborn babies we must save but fuck em once they are born?? Please tell me a tangible purpose driving in a circle around the block serves?
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Okay if we ignore the fact he did put those people in risk cause apparently unborn babies we must save but fuck em once they are born?? Please tell me a tangible purpose driving in a circle around the block serves?
because the COVID19 death rate is far lower than abortion death rates....
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Okay if we ignore the fact he did put those people in risk cause apparently unborn babies we must save but fuck em once they are born?? Please tell me a tangible purpose driving in a circle around the block serves?
What the hell are you talking about. I didn’t say anything about unborn babies. Yes, I know what you’re referring to. Just how the eff does that relate to this topic. And you wonder why people call you irrational.
Tangible? Think you may need to seriously learn vocabulary. Really? Tangible? Ok, so you meant scientific fact that can not be disputed... Is an impact to moral tangible?
Ok. You talk shit about us older folks yet don’t see the idiocy of the stuff you say.
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Nah not doing bets on this, Too much uncertainty.
like you said you would bet the house on macgregor vs mayweather and wouldn't take my bet?
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Okay if we ignore the fact he did put those people in risk cause apparently unborn babies we must save but fuck em once they are born?? Please tell me a tangible purpose driving in a circle around the block serves?
making snowflakes like you upset...
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Okay if we ignore the fact he did put those people in risk cause apparently unborn babies we must save but fuck em once they are born?? Please tell me a tangible purpose driving in a circle around the block serves?
Did you really just compare abortions to COVID?!? :crazy:
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Did you really just compare abortions to COVID?!? :crazy:
You missed the other threads where they say on day 1 of conception you are 100% human. Just associating that amount of care for something to this amount of zero fucks of an actual adult humans.
Just trying to point out the hypocrisy no one apparently sees.
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What the hell are you talking about. I didn’t say anything about unborn babies. Yes, I know what you’re referring to. Just how the eff does that relate to this topic. And you wonder why people call you irrational.
Tangible? Think you may need to seriously learn vocabulary. Really? Tangible? Ok, so you meant scientific fact that can not be disputed... Is an impact to moral tangible?
Ok. You talk shit about us older folks yet don’t see the idiocy of the stuff you say.
Carry on another topic to this to show the Hypocrisy. People who are so adamant to safe all human life even those clumps of cells, yet at the same time don't care then their messiah trump endangers other peoples lives for no good reason.
Tangible as something producible. A good outcome that risks such actions. Something logical. Lets not get into semantics.
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You missed the other threads where they say on day 1 of conception you are 100% human. Just associating that amount of care for something to this amount of zero fucks of an actual adult humans.
Just trying to point out the hypocrisy no one apparently sees.
Dude COVID has a recovery rate of 99% what’s the recovery rate of abortion? They literally could not be more different Which makes your attempt at associating them hilarious.
Edit: that’s like saying I’m a hypocrite for being pro life if I drive my car on the road since I put other people at risk by driving my car.
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Carry on another topic to this to show the Hypocrisy. People who are so adamant to safe all human life even those clumps of cells, yet at the same time don't care then their messiah trump endangers other peoples lives for no good reason.
Tangible as something producible. A good outcome that risks such actions. Something logical. Lets not get into semantics.
Just to be clear, not my hypocrisy. I'm not part of that "clumps of cells" argument.
And semantics are important. It's folks who argue to not get into semantics when they are caught in not knowing what they hell they are talking about. Talk about hypocrisy, you go on an one about abstract notions of life in the abortion issue (consciousness). But all of a sudden want to argue "something logical" and "something producible" in this one? Aiyaiyai. . .
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Dude COVID has a recovery rate of 99% what’s the recovery rate of abortion? They literally could not be more different Which makes your attempt at associating them hilarious.
Edit: that’s like saying I’m a hypocrite for being pro life if I drive my car on the road since I put other people at risk by driving my car.
"Semantics. 1% is not zero. ."
That's the kind of "logic" is at work here in the great minds we are blessed to have in this forum.
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Dude COVID has a recovery rate of 99% what’s the recovery rate of abortion? They literally could not be more different Which makes your attempt at associating them hilarious.
Edit: that’s like saying I’m a hypocrite for being pro life if I drive my car on the road since I put other people at risk by driving my car.
Alright I guess i won't win this convo. We have different opinions on abortion. I don't think a clump of cells is alive. Abortion is zero risk because its not alive and you cant kill the non living. While covid, while doesn't kill most has a greater chance then not covid. My analogy would be not driving vs drunk driving.
But the hypocritical part was that 1% of adults (200k+ in 7 months, 400k+ by years end) got a worse response than than abortion 862k in 12 months. So the people of this forum valued 862k unborn babies FAR greater than 400k+ adult deaths. Ideally they should be appalled by both with equal distain if they really lived their values.
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Just to be clear, not my hypocrisy. I'm not part of that "clumps of cells" argument.
And semantics are important. It's folks who argue to not get into semantics when they are caught in not knowing what they hell they are talking about. Talk about hypocrisy, you go on an one about abstract notions of life in the abortion issue (consciousness). But all of a sudden want to argue "something logical" and "something producible" in this one? Aiyaiyai. . .
You are team cells are humans. So the hipocracy remains there. You literally
Because, like, oh my gosh. He totally, like put those poor Secret Service agents are risk. Like totally dude. That’s, like, uh, totally like cray cray.
BTW, talking like a millennial isn’t easy. Haha
invalidated the secret service agents, while simultaneously defending the right of unborn children because of morals in another thread. Where's your morals for adult living people?
If you are going to preach something stick to it.
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You are team cells are humans. So the hipocracy remains there. You literally invalidated the secret service agents, while simultaneously defending the right of unborn children because of morals in another thread. Where's your morals for adult living people?
If you are going to preach something stick to it.
Sarcasm, Sheldon Cooper
If you go back and read, I am not "team cells are humans"? What the hell is this? The Voice? WTF. . .
Again, if you go back and read, I am generally pro a person's choice to decide what is best for them. If you are going to accuse people of things, get your damn facts straight. . . I wasn't defending anything. I actually do see a lot of the points you were making, again if you were to go back and actually read and comprehend. I was pointing out the irrational nature of your approach and arguments. There's a difference. Just because you can't appreciate the difference, doesn't just make it hypocrisy or invalid. Just the same as you think your beliefs make things true. . .
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Comparing a car ride to abortion is retarded. Get back to topic.
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Sarcasm, Sheldon Cooper
If you go back and read, I am not "team cells are humans"? What the hell is this? The Voice? WTF. . .
Again, if you go back and read, I am generally pro a person's choice to decide what is best for them. If you are going to accuse people of things, get your damn facts straight. . . I wasn't defending anything. I actually do see a lot of the points you were making, again if you were to go back and actually read and comprehend. I was pointing out the irrational nature of your approach and arguments. There's a difference. Just because you can't appreciate the difference, doesn't just make it hypocrisy or invalid. Just the same as you think your beliefs make things true. . .
I apologize, I tend to overlap you and flapp too often. You guys tend to team up and appear as a unified front. Also I normally think things literally, more often than not.
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Back on topic, Ok this is going to make all the trump worshippers like flapp lose their minds. But does everyone know the treatment the president is using to fight covid is made with....gasp...wait for it...embryonic stem cells. You know the thing all the pro-lifers are against?
It's as if all the hypocrisy is summed up in a perfect way :geekdanc:
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https://www.americanthinker.com/blog/2020/10/speculation_mounts_about_the_source_of_president_trumps_illness.html
https://2ahawaii.com/index.php?topic=38273.msg340584#msg340584 ::)
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Back on topic, Ok this is going to make all the trump worshippers like flapp lose their minds. But does everyone know the treatment the president is using to fight covid is made with....gasp...wait for it...embryonic stem cells. You know the thing all the pro-lifers are against?
It's as if all the hypocrisy is summed up in a perfect way :geekdanc:
Embryonic stem cells come from An aborted fetus?
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Embryonic stem cells come from An aborted fetus?
Embryonic stem cell research, which uses cells from days-old embryos created through in vitro fertilization. Take what you want from this.
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https://www.americanthinker.com/blog/2020/10/speculation_mounts_about_the_source_of_president_trumps_illness.html
That’s just like my 4D chess theory. :D
Only the opposite.
The lengths Two sides will go to.....
(And I’m not on either one. But it is kinda funny.)
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Embryonic stem cell research, which uses cells from days-old embryos created through in vitro fertilization. Take what you want from this.
You really haven’t thought a lot of your positions through very thoroughly.
These “embryos” were rejected for implantation. How does this violate pro life values?
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I apologize, I tend to overlap you and flapp too often. You guys tend to team up and appear as a unified front. Also I normally think things literally, more often than not.
Say what?
I disagree, poke fun at, etc with everyone! No, you're not special and no, you're not being picked on. . .
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You really haven’t thought a lot of your positions through very thoroughly.
These “embryos” were rejected for implantation. How does this violate pro life values?
Most pro-lifers and those I know on this forum, for them life begins on inception. When you fertilize the egg. This technically counts. Also I didn't say anything about rejected embryos.
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Most pro-lifers and those I know on this forum, for them life begins on inception. When you fertilize the egg. This technically counts. Also I didn't say anything about rejected embryos.
Life does begin at conception, in the womb... this is not very hard to understand dude. You don’t understand the pro life side very well.
And yes you did say something about rejected embryos. Considering that’s where embryonic stem cells come from.
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Omnigrub has tried to troll me by mentioning my name no fewer than 3 times today, even though this is my first post of the day. I figured I'd chime in -- but not because of him.
Trump has some of the best doctors in the world treating him. If anyone believes the President of the US (1) took a ride to greet supporters, and (2) exposed his security detail to COVID-19, all without consulting his doctors, then you should have another glass of KoolAid and scream at the sky some more.
As for being at the White House, doctors try to get patients out of the hospital as soon as possible no matter WHO they are. Being in a hospital increases the risk for complications (cross infections in particular) as well as stress which increases the time to recuperate.
Trump did NOT go home (i.e. his own house). He went to the White House. They have all the same equipment and people as the hospital to continue treating the President. Being at Walter Reed would have been no different, and staying could have been detrimental for him. Not to mention that the longer he stays, the crazier the loons on the Left, especially the MSM, would ramp up their calls to swear Pence in as President, and that Trump was on his death bed.
If he stayed, the loons would say he's dying or dead. If he left, they would be screeching he's putting himself and others in mortal danger -- as if he's coughing and spewing ebola in everyone's face.
If you're terrified of COVID-19, the MSM and Democrats have succeeded. It gives them power over you based on nothing more than fear.
Trump is a walking, talking example of why we should not let this virus run our lives. If you catch it, you have less chance of dying than from the seasonal flu.
Facts matter.
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Life does begin at conception, in the womb... this is not very hard to understand dude. You don’t understand the pro life side very well.
And yes you did say something about rejected embryos. Considering that’s where embryonic stem cells come from.
What's the difference between life created in the womb and the exact same method of life created in a lab? Literally ends up 100% the exact same thing. There is zero difference between the collection of cells created by natural fertilization and lab. Not implanting them doesn't change what it is.
Embryonic stem cells only come from four to five day old blastocysts or younger embryos. These are eggs that have been fertilized in the laboratory but have not been implanted in a womb.
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Omnigrub has tried to troll me by mentioning my name no fewer than 3 times today, even though this is my first post of the day. I figured I'd chime in -- but not because of him.
Trump has some of the best doctors in the world treating him. If anyone believes the President of the US (1) took a ride to greet supporters, and (2) exposed his security detail to COVID-19, all without consulting his doctors, then you should have another glass of KoolAid and scream at the sky some more.
As for being at the White House, doctors try to get patients out of the hospital as soon as possible no matter WHO they are. Being in a hospital increases the risk for complications (cross infections in particular) as well as stress which increases the time to recuperate.
Trump did NOT go home (i.e. his own house). He went to the White House. They have all the same equipment and people as the hospital to continue treating the President. Being at Walter Reed would have been no different, and staying could have been detrimental for him. Not to mention that the longer he stays, the crazier the loons on the Left, especially the MSM, would ramp up their calls to swear Pence in as President, and that Trump was on his death bed.
If he stayed, the loons would say he's dying or dead. If he left, they would be screeching he's putting himself and others in mortal danger -- as if he's coughing and spewing ebola in everyone's face.
If you're terrified of COVID-19, the MSM and Democrats have succeeded. It gives them power over you based on nothing more than fear.
Trump is a walking, talking example of why we should not let this virus run our lives. If you catch it, you have less chance of dying than from the seasonal flu.
Facts matter.
Other than the fact this is false and I am willing to bet you any amount of money you want on that if you disagree. (willing to go to a legal location to place the bet legitimately)
Love that you just ignored the whole I'm pro life question. Guessing you don't have any come back for that.
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What's the difference between life created in the womb and the exact same method of life created in a lab? Literally ends up 100% the exact same thing.
Embryonic stem cells only come from four to five day old blastocysts or younger embryos. These are eggs that have been fertilized in the laboratory but have not been implanted in a womb.
ENOUGH!
You've now derailed two threads to ARGUE about YOUR BELIEFS and smear anyone who doesn't agree with you.
The RBG and now this Trump thread are NOT abortion debates.
Start another thread on abortion, or shut the f**k up!
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Other than the fact this is false and I am willing to bet you any amount of money you want on that if you disagree. (willing to go to a legal location to place the bet legitimately)
Love that you just ignored the whole I'm pro life question. Guessing you don't have any come back for that.
I ignored it because it's
OFF TOPIC!
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I ignored it because it's
OFF TOPIC!
Convenient. How is trumps treatment off topic on the topic about trumps covid 19? If i were to put it on the other thread I would argue it would have alot less relevance on topic. I could create another thread dedicated to this but it seems a waste.
Also zero mention of the false claim. You know flapp sometimes its okay to admit you are wrong...this is a safe place :crazy:
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What's the difference between life created in the womb and the exact same method of life created in a lab? Literally ends up 100% the exact same thing. There is zero difference between the collection of cells created by natural fertilization and lab. Not implanting them doesn't change what it is.
Embryonic stem cells only come from four to five day old blastocysts or younger embryos. These are eggs that have been fertilized in the laboratory but have not been implanted in a womb.
Wow lol. The difference, obviously, is that an egg that’s fertilized in a lab has no chance of ever becoming a child unless it is implanted in the womb. By your logic every time I fap and flush the swimmers down the drain I am a “pro life hypocrite”.
Again the fertilized eggs that have been used in embryonic stem cells were rejected for implantation.
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Wow lol. The difference, obviously, is that an egg that’s fertilized in a lab has no chance of ever becoming a child unless it is implanted in the womb. By your logic every time I fap and flush the swimmers down the drain I am a “pro life hypocrite”.
Again the fertilized eggs that have been used in embryonic stem cells were rejected for implantation.
You can implant it in the womb at any time, or there are experiments to grow things out of the womb right now. Why does the location of this clump of cells matter in what it is? Also I see no proof of your assertion that all the fertilized eggs that have been used in embryonic stem cells were rejected for implantation. Meaning that they are all non viable. Each country and state have their own rules, hard to find definitive answer.
Also when you fap those arn't fertilized....
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You can implant it in the womb at any time, or there are experiments to grow things out of the womb right now. Why does the location of this clump of cells matter in what it is? Also I see no proof of your assertion that all the fertilized eggs that have been used in embryonic stem cells were rejected for implantation. Meaning that they are all non viable. Each country and state have their own rules, hard to find definitive answer.
Also when you fap those arn't fertilized....
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(Funny you used to rip on me for using that)
Trump has some of the best doctors in the world treating him. If anyone believes the President of the US (1) took a ride to greet supporters, and (2) exposed his security detail to COVID-19, all without consulting his doctors, then you should have another glass of KoolAid and scream at the sky some more.
Better help yourself to some more from that pot, Mr. kettle.
As for being at the White House, doctors try to get patients out of the hospital as soon as possible no matter WHO they are. Being in a hospital increases the risk for complications (cross infections in particular) as well as stress which increases the time to recuperate.
Did not know you were a Doctor.
Trump did NOT go home (i.e. his own house). He went to the White House. They have all the same equipment and people as the hospital to continue treating the President. Being at Walter Reed would have been no different, and staying could have been detrimental for him. Not to mention that the longer he stays, the crazier the loons on the Left, especially the MSM, would ramp up their calls to swear Pence in as President, and that Trump was on his death bed.
Is Fox MSM ?
Facts matter.
And for the record I’m just questioning everybody’s sanity.
Flapp says crazier loons on the left while appearing to be a crazier loon on the right.
When do we just question all this crap?
Do we have a good choice for President?
Appears to me, No.
But also appears Trump is better of two evils if we can handle the social discourse for four more years.
As an “advanced” civilization we should. But that’s not saying a lot based on current events.
Shit, I’m back off-topic.
And nevermind with the abortion.
Start a new topic if you folks want.
It’s like Kuleana and Sovereignty.
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(Funny you used to rip on me for using that)
Quote from: Flapp_Jackson on Today at 12:35:01 PM
Trump has some of the best doctors in the world treating him. If anyone believes the President of the US (1) took a ride to greet supporters, and (2) exposed his security detail to COVID-19, all without consulting his doctors, then you should have another glass of KoolAid and scream at the sky some more.
Better help yourself to some more from that pot, Mr. kettle.
As for being at the White House, doctors try to get patients out of the hospital as soon as possible no matter WHO they are. Being in a hospital increases the risk for complications (cross infections in particular) as well as stress which increases the time to recuperate.
Did not know you were a Doctor.
Trump did NOT go home (i.e. his own house). He went to the White House. They have all the same equipment and people as the hospital to continue treating the President. Being at Walter Reed would have been no different, and staying could have been detrimental for him. Not to mention that the longer he stays, the crazier the loons on the Left, especially the MSM, would ramp up their calls to swear Pence in as President, and that Trump was on his death bed.
Is Fox MSM ?
Facts matter.
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In other words, you really have nothing useful to contribute.
Same-old, same-old.
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In other words, you really have nothing useful to contribute.
Same-old, same-old.
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Oh my Gosh Pot, did You just call Kettle again.
You DO NOT EVER answer a direct question.
Deflect and Insult. You should use that for your fifth forum user name. :geekdanc:
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In other words, you really have nothing useful to contribute.
Same-old, same-old.
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Quote from: Flapp_Jackson on Today at 12:35:01 PM
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In other words, you really have nothing useful to contribute.
Same-old, same-old.
Oh my Gosh Pot, did You just call Kettle again.
You DO NOT EVER answer a direct question.
Deflect and Insult. You should use that for your fifth forum user name. :geekdanc:
His other option is to ignore. Or scream off topic appears to be his newly learned skill.
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Ah, Don’t worry about Flapp.
He’s kind of a light weight. Deflect and insult.
(You seen his last 2 responses to me.?)
He’ll Throw in couple google references sometimes.
Try to Overwhelm you with Googlefu.
He’s Really good on technical reference stuff but has no original thought on social or political stuff.
As for Drck, Ren, Groveler, Heavies, JL808, OF, Inspector, Rocky and most of the others. Listen to their input.
Don’t need to agree with them but read what they’re saying.
And respond respectfully and in kind.
(And I know I missed a bunch. Skipped Macsak on purpose just to piss him off. Good guy though. :D)
And don’t need to derail multiple threads. Just start another if there’s a topic to discuss.
Abortion and stem cell culturing...now there’s an interesting topic.....just NOT in this thread.
Off-topic is a thread for a reason.
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In other words, you really have nothing useful to contribute.
From what i recall of two of three liberals, they just want to argue and maybe get the last word in, like a woman. Last word = I WIN!!!
Hey, maybe they ARE female, that would explain the endless need to argue about something.?
I suspect the kid with the iFag is the same way. Sure seems wrapped up about abortions, like you were threatening to steal something he might need?
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From what i recall of two of three liberals, they just want to argue and maybe get the last word in, like a woman. Last word = I WIN!!!
Hey, maybe they ARE female, that would explain the endless need to argue about something.?
I suspect the kid with the iFag is the same way. Sure seems wrapped up about abortions, like you were threatening to steal something he might need?
Ignorant and sexist we got a winning combo in this guy.