Trump,1st Lady & top aid test positive for COVID-19 -- Under Self-Quarantine (Read 18520 times)

Brystont1

You missed the other threads where they say on day 1 of conception you are 100% human.  Just associating that amount of care for something to this amount of zero fucks of an actual adult humans.

Just trying to point out the hypocrisy no one apparently sees.

Dude COVID has a recovery rate of 99% what’s the recovery rate of abortion? They literally could not be more different Which makes your attempt at associating them hilarious.

Edit: that’s like saying I’m a hypocrite for being pro life if I drive my car on the road since I put other people at risk by driving my car.

drck1000

Carry on another topic to this to show the Hypocrisy.  People who are so adamant to safe all human life even those clumps of cells, yet at the same time don't care then their messiah trump endangers other peoples lives for no good reason.

Tangible as something producible.  A good outcome that risks such actions. Something logical.  Lets not get into semantics.
Just to be clear, not my hypocrisy.  I'm not part of that "clumps of cells" argument. 

And semantics are important.  It's folks who argue to not get into semantics when they are caught in not knowing what they hell they are talking about.  Talk about hypocrisy, you go on an one about abstract notions of life in the abortion issue (consciousness).  But all of a sudden want to argue "something logical" and "something producible" in this one?  Aiyaiyai. . .
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drck1000

Dude COVID has a recovery rate of 99% what’s the recovery rate of abortion? They literally could not be more different Which makes your attempt at associating them hilarious.

Edit: that’s like saying I’m a hypocrite for being pro life if I drive my car on the road since I put other people at risk by driving my car.
"Semantics.  1% is not zero. ."

That's the kind of "logic" is at work here in the great minds we are blessed to have in this forum. 

omnigun

Dude COVID has a recovery rate of 99% what’s the recovery rate of abortion? They literally could not be more different Which makes your attempt at associating them hilarious.

Edit: that’s like saying I’m a hypocrite for being pro life if I drive my car on the road since I put other people at risk by driving my car.

Alright I guess i won't win this convo.  We have different opinions on abortion. I don't think a clump of cells is alive.  Abortion is zero risk because its not alive and you cant kill the non living.  While covid, while doesn't kill most has a greater chance then not covid.  My analogy would be not driving vs drunk driving. 

But the hypocritical part was that 1% of adults  (200k+ in 7 months, 400k+ by years end) got a worse response than than abortion 862k in 12 months.  So the people of this forum valued 862k unborn babies FAR greater than 400k+ adult deaths.  Ideally they should be appalled by both with equal distain if they really lived their values.

omnigun

Just to be clear, not my hypocrisy.  I'm not part of that "clumps of cells" argument. 

And semantics are important.  It's folks who argue to not get into semantics when they are caught in not knowing what they hell they are talking about.  Talk about hypocrisy, you go on an one about abstract notions of life in the abortion issue (consciousness).  But all of a sudden want to argue "something logical" and "something producible" in this one?  Aiyaiyai. . .

You are team cells are humans.  So the hipocracy remains there.  You literally
Because, like, oh my gosh. He totally, like put those poor Secret Service agents are risk. Like totally dude. That’s, like, uh, totally like cray cray.
BTW, talking like a millennial isn’t easy. Haha
invalidated the secret service agents, while simultaneously defending the right of unborn children because of morals in another thread.  Where's your morals for adult living people?

If you are going to preach something stick to it.

drck1000

You are team cells are humans.  So the hipocracy remains there.  You literally invalidated the secret service agents, while simultaneously defending the right of unborn children because of morals in another thread.  Where's your morals for adult living people?

If you are going to preach something stick to it.
Sarcasm, Sheldon Cooper

If you go back and read, I am not "team cells are humans"?  What the hell is this?  The Voice?  WTF. . .

Again, if you go back and read, I am generally pro a person's choice to decide what is best for them.  If you are going to accuse people of things, get your damn facts straight. . .  I wasn't defending anything.  I actually do see a lot of the points you were making, again if you were to go back and actually read and comprehend.  I was pointing out the irrational nature of your approach and arguments.  There's a difference.  Just because you can't appreciate the difference, doesn't just make it hypocrisy or invalid.  Just the same as you think your beliefs make things true. . .

Heavies

Comparing a car ride to abortion is retarded. Get back to topic.

omnigun

Sarcasm, Sheldon Cooper

If you go back and read, I am not "team cells are humans"?  What the hell is this?  The Voice?  WTF. . .

Again, if you go back and read, I am generally pro a person's choice to decide what is best for them.  If you are going to accuse people of things, get your damn facts straight. . .  I wasn't defending anything.  I actually do see a lot of the points you were making, again if you were to go back and actually read and comprehend.  I was pointing out the irrational nature of your approach and arguments.  There's a difference.  Just because you can't appreciate the difference, doesn't just make it hypocrisy or invalid.  Just the same as you think your beliefs make things true. . .

I apologize,  I tend to overlap you and flapp too often.  You guys tend to team up and appear as a unified front.  Also I normally think things literally, more often than not.
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omnigun

Back on topic, Ok this is going to make all the trump worshippers like flapp lose their minds.  But does everyone know the treatment the president is using to fight covid is made with....gasp...wait for it...embryonic stem cells.  You know the thing all the pro-lifers are against? 

It's as if all the hypocrisy is summed up in a perfect way   :geekdanc:

Rocky

“I ask you to judge me by the enemies I have made.”
                                                           Franklin D. Roosevelt

Brystont1

Back on topic, Ok this is going to make all the trump worshippers like flapp lose their minds.  But does everyone know the treatment the president is using to fight covid is made with....gasp...wait for it...embryonic stem cells.  You know the thing all the pro-lifers are against? 

It's as if all the hypocrisy is summed up in a perfect way   :geekdanc:

Embryonic stem cells come from An aborted fetus?

omnigun

Embryonic stem cells come from An aborted fetus?

Embryonic stem cell research, which uses cells from days-old embryos created through in vitro fertilization. Take what you want from this. 

aieahound

https://www.americanthinker.com/blog/2020/10/speculation_mounts_about_the_source_of_president_trumps_illness.html

That’s just like my 4D chess theory.  :D
Only the opposite.

The lengths Two sides will go to.....
(And I’m not on either one.  But it is kinda funny.)

Brystont1

 ^-^
Embryonic stem cell research, which uses cells from days-old embryos created through in vitro fertilization. Take what you want from this.

You really haven’t thought a lot of your positions through very thoroughly.

These “embryos” were rejected for implantation. How does this violate pro life values?

drck1000

I apologize,  I tend to overlap you and flapp too often.  You guys tend to team up and appear as a unified front.  Also I normally think things literally, more often than not.
Say what? 

I disagree, poke fun at, etc with everyone!  No, you're not special and no, you're not being picked on. . .

omnigun

^-^
You really haven’t thought a lot of your positions through very thoroughly.

These “embryos” were rejected for implantation. How does this violate pro life values?

Most pro-lifers and those I know on this forum, for them life begins on inception.  When you fertilize the egg.  This technically counts.  Also I didn't say anything about rejected embryos.

Brystont1

Most pro-lifers and those I know on this forum, for them life begins on inception.  When you fertilize the egg.  This technically counts.  Also I didn't say anything about rejected embryos.

Life does begin at conception, in the womb... this is not very hard to understand dude. You don’t understand the pro life side very well.

And yes you did say something about rejected embryos. Considering that’s where embryonic stem cells come from.

Flapp_Jackson

Omnigrub has tried to troll me by mentioning my name no fewer than 3 times today, even though this is my first post of the day. I figured I'd chime in -- but not because of him.

Trump has some of the best doctors in the world treating him.  If anyone believes the President of the US (1) took a ride to greet supporters, and (2) exposed his security detail to COVID-19, all without consulting his doctors, then you should have another glass of KoolAid and scream at the sky some more.

As for being at the White House, doctors try to get patients out of the hospital as soon as possible no matter WHO they are.  Being in a hospital increases the risk for complications (cross infections in particular) as well as stress which increases the time to recuperate. 

Trump did NOT go home (i.e. his own house).  He went to the White House.  They have all the same equipment and people as the hospital to continue treating the President.  Being at Walter Reed would have been no different, and staying could have been detrimental for him.  Not to mention that the longer he stays, the crazier the loons on the Left, especially the MSM, would ramp up their calls to swear Pence in as President, and that Trump was on his death bed.

If he stayed, the loons would say he's dying or dead.  If he left, they would be screeching he's putting himself and others in mortal danger -- as if he's coughing and spewing ebola in everyone's face.

If you're terrified of COVID-19, the MSM and Democrats have succeeded.  It gives them power over you based on nothing more than fear.

Trump is a walking, talking example of why we should not let this virus run our lives.  If you catch it, you have less chance of dying than from the seasonal flu.

Facts matter.
The reasonable man adapts himself to the world;
the unreasonable one persists in trying to adapt the world to himself.
Therefore, all progress depends on the unreasonable man.
-- George Bernard Shaw

omnigun

Life does begin at conception, in the womb... this is not very hard to understand dude. You don’t understand the pro life side very well.

And yes you did say something about rejected embryos. Considering that’s where embryonic stem cells come from.

What's the difference between life created in the womb and the exact same method of life created in a lab?  Literally ends up 100% the exact same thing.  There is zero difference between the collection of cells created by natural fertilization and lab.  Not implanting them doesn't change what it is.

Embryonic stem cells only come from four to five day old blastocysts or younger embryos. These are eggs that have been fertilized in the laboratory but have not been implanted in a womb.
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omnigun

Omnigrub has tried to troll me by mentioning my name no fewer than 3 times today, even though this is my first post of the day. I figured I'd chime in -- but not because of him.

Trump has some of the best doctors in the world treating him.  If anyone believes the President of the US (1) took a ride to greet supporters, and (2) exposed his security detail to COVID-19, all without consulting his doctors, then you should have another glass of KoolAid and scream at the sky some more.

As for being at the White House, doctors try to get patients out of the hospital as soon as possible no matter WHO they are.  Being in a hospital increases the risk for complications (cross infections in particular) as well as stress which increases the time to recuperate. 

Trump did NOT go home (i.e. his own house).  He went to the White House.  They have all the same equipment and people as the hospital to continue treating the President.  Being at Walter Reed would have been no different, and staying could have been detrimental for him.  Not to mention that the longer he stays, the crazier the loons on the Left, especially the MSM, would ramp up their calls to swear Pence in as President, and that Trump was on his death bed.

If he stayed, the loons would say he's dying or dead.  If he left, they would be screeching he's putting himself and others in mortal danger -- as if he's coughing and spewing ebola in everyone's face.

If you're terrified of COVID-19, the MSM and Democrats have succeeded.  It gives them power over you based on nothing more than fear.

Trump is a walking, talking example of why we should not let this virus run our lives.  If you catch it, you have less chance of dying than from the seasonal flu.

Facts matter.

Other than the fact this is false and I am willing to bet you any amount of money you want on that if you disagree. (willing to go to a legal location to place the bet legitimately)

Love that you just ignored the whole I'm pro life question.  Guessing you don't have any come back for that.