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Title: Georgia Senate showdown
Post by: omnigun on November 21, 2020, 03:09:47 PM
As we all know Georgia and its 2 senate seats are up for special election.  Democrats need to win both to take the senate.

This brings me to this article.
https://www.newsweek.com/georgia-trump-supporters-destroy-gop-boycott-senate-runoffs-1549245

RIP 2a....if this is true.    Qanon has done alot of stupid shit before but this takes the cake.  We might be screwed.   :wacko: :wtf:
Title: Re: Georgia Senate showdown
Post by: Flapp_Jackson on November 21, 2020, 03:19:02 PM
An unnamed, pro-Trump "protestor" claims "we" are going to "destroy" the GOP if ..... they don't do something undefined to ...... "stop the steal?"

Sounds like an ANTIFA dumbass got on camera to spout off stupid crap that's eerily similar to the same rhetoric ANTIFA and BLM use.

Unless the 2 or 3 people are proven to be Trump supporters, and the people on Social Media proven to not have "jumped the shark", this is just more media propaganda crafted to demoralize and deflate the optimism of actual Trump supporters.

The article posted is lacking in details on the people being interviewed. 

Some random person saying vague things threatens ambiguous consequences against the GOP.

Meh.
Title: Re: Georgia Senate showdown
Post by: Flapp_Jackson on November 21, 2020, 03:23:28 PM
Pop quiz, Hot Shot!

Without using ANY Internet or WWW resources, answer this pop culture question:

What does "jump the shark," mean, and when/how did it become a saying?

No lifelines!  No phoning a friend, no 50/50 (essay questions don't have that), and no polling the audience (friends, family, neighbors, coworkers, stray dog, imaginary friends, ...).

If you know this, it should take only one or two sentences.

READY?

GO!!

 :geekdanc: :popcorn:
Title: Re: Georgia Senate showdown
Post by: changemyoil66 on November 21, 2020, 03:53:39 PM
Let the same cheating begin. This is what happens when majority of the gop dont have the balls to help trump.

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Title: Re: Georgia Senate showdown
Post by: aletheuo137 on November 22, 2020, 07:29:46 AM
https://amgreatness.com/2020/11/21/waiting-for-sidney/

Hopefully, this will encourage some.

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Title: Re: Georgia Senate showdown
Post by: hvybarrels on November 22, 2020, 11:17:39 AM
We are watching a populist revolution of the GOP, which has been infested by swamp monsters for generations now. If this goes well I might sign up.
Title: Re: Georgia Senate showdown
Post by: Flapp_Jackson on November 22, 2020, 11:25:23 AM
We are watching a populist revolution of the GOP, which has been infested by swamp monsters for generations now. If this goes well I might sign up.

Yep.  The people trying to constantly associate the GOP with Trump, and vice versa, are ignoring the whole reason Trump was elected.

We're tired of the status quo FROM BOTH PARTIES.  It took 2 years for the DC GOP to mostly support Trump, and a good many still support the swamp over him.

When you rock the boat, EVERYBODY who was happy with their ride wants it to stop.  Party is irrelevant.
Title: Re: Georgia Senate showdown
Post by: macsak on November 22, 2020, 12:35:33 PM
Yep.  The people trying to constantly associate the GOP with Trump, and vice versa, are ignoring the whole reason Trump was elected.

We're tired of the status quo FROM BOTH PARTIES.  It took 2 years for the DC GOP to mostly support Trump, and a good many still support the swamp over him.

When you rock the boat, EVERYBODY who was happy with their ride wants it to stop.  Party is irrelevant.

but what do "independents" think?
Title: Re: Georgia Senate showdown
Post by: Flapp_Jackson on November 22, 2020, 12:41:35 PM
but what do "independents" think?

Independents think everyone else will eventually drown each other.  They think they can then just waltz in and take over the boat as captain.
Title: Re: Georgia Senate showdown
Post by: hvybarrels on November 22, 2020, 02:05:20 PM
but what do "independents" think?

In good times they are "independents", but in bad times they are known as sectarians and secessionists.
Title: Re: Georgia Senate showdown
Post by: omnigun on November 22, 2020, 03:43:13 PM
but what do "independents" think?

I don't like trump.  He is the swamp.  Just a different flavor.
Title: Re: Georgia Senate showdown
Post by: omnigun on November 22, 2020, 03:44:32 PM
Independents think everyone else will eventually drown each other.  They think they can then just waltz in and take over the boat as captain.

No...Independents pick anyone that we like regardless of party they are in. 
Title: Re: Georgia Senate showdown
Post by: groveler on November 22, 2020, 04:08:53 PM
Yep.  The people trying to constantly associate the GOP with Trump, and vice versa, are ignoring the whole reason Trump was elected.

We're tired of the status quo FROM BOTH PARTIES.  It took 2 years for the DC GOP to mostly support Trump, and a good many still support the swamp over him.

When you rock the boat, EVERYBODY who was happy with their ride wants it to stop.  Party is irrelevant.
This is just my opinion,  but there are Democrats that can never be
convinced that they are idiots. the same can be said for some Republicans.
So all our elections are aimed at the people that can't make
up their mind.
Our government is decided by the weakest willed people.
The kind of people I would not sell a gun to as I don't
trust them to be safe.

Prepare for the worst about to happen.

Title: Re: Georgia Senate showdown
Post by: Flapp_Jackson on November 22, 2020, 06:24:11 PM
No...Independents pick anyone that we like regardless of party they are in.

For the 50th time, you keep saying this, but the FACT IS "Independent" candidates rarely win locally, and will probably never win the Presidency ever.

Bernie Sanders is a SOCIALIST who identifies in Congress as an Independent (I).  He caucuses with the Democrats (Socialists of a feather...), and he had to sign an agreement that, if he won the Democrat nomination for the presidential race, he would have to switch his party affiliation to Democrat (D). 

So, you keep saying you're voting for whoever you want.  You can do that even if you register (D) or (R).  Failing to commit doesn't make you any more Independent than me or others in this state.  Dems can vote for Trump, and Reps can vote for Biden.  All you're really doing is fixing it so you can't vote in the primaries.

Independent?  More like "scared of making a poor choice."
Title: Re: Georgia Senate showdown
Post by: aletheuo137 on November 23, 2020, 08:21:55 AM
I don't like trump.  He is the swamp.  Just a different flavor.
What are some of your reasons for not liking him?

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Title: Re: Georgia Senate showdown
Post by: omnigun on November 23, 2020, 08:36:00 AM
For the 50th time, you keep saying this, but the FACT IS "Independent" candidates rarely win locally, and will probably never win the Presidency ever.

Bernie Sanders is a SOCIALIST who identifies in Congress as an Independent (I).  He caucuses with the Democrats (Socialists of a feather...), and he had to sign an agreement that, if he won the Democrat nomination for the presidential race, he would have to switch his party affiliation to Democrat (D). 

So, you keep saying you're voting for whoever you want.  You can do that even if you register (D) or (R).  Failing to commit doesn't make you any more Independent than me or others in this state.  Dems can vote for Trump, and Reps can vote for Biden.  All you're really doing is fixing it so you can't vote in the primaries.

Independent?  More like "scared of making a poor choice."

Sounds like someone boxed in to a party.  There will never be change if everyone keeps your mindset.  I've voted democrat, republican, libertarians, independents.  Yes you can pick a party,  then vote outside of it, but that's a sign of endorsing a party.
Title: Re: Georgia Senate showdown
Post by: aletheuo137 on November 23, 2020, 08:53:25 AM
Sounds like someone boxed in to a party.  There will never be change if everyone keeps your mindset.  I've voted democrat, republican, libertarians, independents.  Yes you can pick a party,  then vote outside of it, but that's a sign of endorsing a party.
It's hard to fly when you hang around turkeys.

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Title: Re: Georgia Senate showdown
Post by: Flapp_Jackson on November 23, 2020, 09:44:51 AM
Sounds like someone boxed in to a party.  There will never be change if everyone keeps your mindset.  I've voted democrat, republican, libertarians, independents.  Yes you can pick a party,  then vote outside of it, but that's a sign of endorsing a party.

Boxed in?  Are you that ignorant?

If you think I voted for John McCain or Bob Dole, think again.

I'm just not terrified of what other people would think if they found out I'm registered for a specific party.

I find that most Independents I've encountered are really former Democrats who can't stand the party any more, but have been so brainwashed to hate Republicans they can't  bring themselves to join the GOP.  Hence, they pretend to be on the fence and claim "I'm Independent", like that's better than having an actual party preference.

There is no "Independent Party".  You're no different than claiming "Unaffiliated."  You just convinced yourself that "Independent" sounds cooler.   8)
Title: Re: Georgia Senate showdown
Post by: Flapp_Jackson on November 23, 2020, 09:51:07 AM
Sounds like someone boxed in to a party.  There will never be change if everyone keeps your mindset.  I've voted democrat, republican, libertarians, independents.  Yes you can pick a party,  then vote outside of it, but that's a sign of endorsing a party.

Because you say so?   :rofl:

Voters don't "endorse" candidates or parties.  You either SUPPORT them with your vote, volunteer work, and donations, or you don't.  There's no such thing as someone like me "endorsing a party!"

Affiliation means you want to participate in that party's primaries -- nothing more.  Lots of Democrats have tried switching party affiliation to mess up Republican primaries by voting for the worst of the candidates, believing they can somehow make the general election easier for the Democrat primary winner.  So, are THOSE DEMOCRATS "endorsing" the GOP?

 :rofl: :rofl:

The stupid that flows from your SmartPhone gives all SmartPhones a bad name.
Title: Re: Georgia Senate showdown
Post by: omnigun on November 23, 2020, 10:52:25 AM
Because you say so?   :rofl:

Voters don't "endorse" candidates or parties.  You either SUPPORT them with your vote, volunteer work, and donations, or you don't.  There's no such thing as someone like me "endorsing a party!"

Affiliation means you want to participate in that party's primaries -- nothing more.  Lots of Democrats have tried switching party affiliation to mess up Republican primaries by voting for the worst of the candidates, believing they can somehow make the general election easier for the Democrat primary winner.  So, are THOSE DEMOCRATS "endorsing" the GOP?

 :rofl: :rofl:

The stupid that flows from your SmartPhone gives all SmartPhones a bad name.

Picking a side is endorsement, regardless of malicious or any specific intent....In polls you are now on one side of the party line and treated statistically as that.
Title: Re: Georgia Senate showdown
Post by: omnigun on November 23, 2020, 10:52:50 AM
What are some of your reasons for not liking him?

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He lies more than anyone I know.

He says stupid shit often

Haven't done enough for 2a ( breaking promises) (banning bumpstocks)

Iran and north Korea have gotten worse not better

Didn't back up Hong Kong or Taiwan against china

China is stronger and trade deficit is WORSE than when he started.

Healthcare is still fucked after saying he would fix it

Beyond fucked up Covid response

Immigration haven't been fixed.  Still plenty illegals, didn't kick them out yet or build a wall

Relations with europe and the rest of the world are at an all time low

Budget deficit is up, despite promising to lower it

Climate change

Ignorance to science

Trying to ban abortions

Forcing religion on the masses (bible thumping saying this country needs more god, more religion etc)

__________________________________________________________________________________________


His list of good things is far shorter.  Probably missed a bunch of stuff.
Title: Re: Georgia Senate showdown
Post by: aletheuo137 on November 23, 2020, 11:28:10 AM
He lies more than anyone I know.

He says stupid shit often

Haven't done enough for 2a ( breaking promises) (banning bumpstocks)

Iran and north Korea have gotten worse not better

Didn't back up Hong Kong or Taiwan against china

China is stronger and trade deficit is WORSE than when he started.

Healthcare is still fucked after saying he would fix it

Beyond fucked up Covid response

Immigration haven't been fixed.  Still plenty illegals, didn't kick them out yet or build a wall

Relations with europe and the rest of the world are at an all time low

Budget deficit is up, despite promising to lower it

Climate change

Ignorance to science

Trying to ban abortions

Forcing religion on the masses (bible thumping saying this country needs more god, more religion etc)

__________________________________________________________________________________________


His list of good things is far shorter.  Probably missed a bunch of stuff.
Did you get all that yourself or from the DNC? Don't let them occupy space in your head. Turn it off for three weeks and then come back. They're in your head because you let them.

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Title: Re: Georgia Senate showdown
Post by: macsak on November 23, 2020, 11:45:58 AM
He lies more than anyone I know.

He says stupid shit often

Haven't done enough for 2a

sounds like someone i know...
Title: Re: Georgia Senate showdown
Post by: changemyoil66 on November 23, 2020, 11:48:49 AM
He lies more than anyone I know.





You've never heard a chick tell you that you're hot/handsome/huge? Or "you're the best I've ever had"  :rofl: :rofl: :rofl:
Title: Re: Georgia Senate showdown
Post by: changemyoil66 on November 23, 2020, 11:49:43 AM
He lies more than anyone I know.

He says stupid shit often

Haven't done enough for 2a ( breaking promises) (banning bumpstocks)

Iran and north Korea have gotten worse not better

Didn't back up Hong Kong or Taiwan against china

China is stronger and trade deficit is WORSE than when he started.

Healthcare is still fucked after saying he would fix it

Beyond fucked up Covid response

Immigration haven't been fixed.  Still plenty illegals, didn't kick them out yet or build a wall

Relations with europe and the rest of the world are at an all time low

Budget deficit is up, despite promising to lower it

Climate change

Ignorance to science

Trying to ban abortions

Forcing religion on the masses (bible thumping saying this country needs more god, more religion etc)

__________________________________________________________________________________________


His list of good things is far shorter.  Probably missed a bunch of stuff.

We've discussed this in previous threads and most of what you listed is wrong.
Title: Re: Georgia Senate showdown
Post by: drck1000 on November 23, 2020, 11:54:45 AM
sounds like someone i know...
Bazinga

You've never heard a chick tell you that you're hot/handsome/huge? Or "you're the best I've ever had"  :rofl: :rofl: :rofl:
Yeah, a feels times in my younger days. Somewhere across the street from present day Ala Moana  :rofl:
Title: Re: Georgia Senate showdown
Post by: Flapp_Jackson on November 23, 2020, 11:56:06 AM
You've never heard a chick tell you that you're hot/handsome/huge? Or "you're the best I've ever had"  :rofl: :rofl: :rofl:

He's obviously never been to a hostess bar, either ....

--- so I've been told.   :geekdanc: :wave:
Title: Re: Georgia Senate showdown
Post by: aletheuo137 on November 23, 2020, 12:34:21 PM
https://www.jenkuznicki.com/mark-levin-educates-on-civil-litigation-for-the-ignorant-talking-heads

Here's an article for your dismissals.

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Title: Re: Georgia Senate showdown
Post by: Jl808 on November 23, 2020, 02:27:11 PM
Nothing scientific of course, and just sharing an observation....

Two things I can say about people that I personally know who hate Trump...

... has never actually met Trump in person.
... gets their news from CNN.
Title: Re: Georgia Senate showdown
Post by: aletheuo137 on November 23, 2020, 02:31:09 PM
Nothing scientific of course, and just sharing an observation....

Two things I can say about people that I personally know who hate Trump...

... has never actually met Trump in person.
... gets their news from CNN.
I think I know the same people

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Title: Re: Georgia Senate showdown
Post by: drck1000 on November 23, 2020, 02:35:46 PM
Nothing scientific of course, and just sharing an observation....

Two things I can say about people that I personally know who hate Trump...

... has never actually met Trump in person.
... gets their news from CNN.
MSNBC, particularly Maddow. . . I def know people like that! 

Also, generally lots of LGBTQelemenopee types. . .
Title: Re: Georgia Senate showdown
Post by: omnigun on November 23, 2020, 02:37:35 PM
Nothing scientific of course, and just sharing an observation....

Two things I can say about people that I personally know who hate Trump...

... has never actually met Trump in person.
... gets their news from CNN.

Most of my news is from multiple sources and fox, and yup never met the guy.  I doubt anyone here did. I do google news and www.allsides.com/.  Try and get a balance of all different sides.  I do use CNN but also fox.  Gotta see different sources.  Don't be stuck to just one.   Though MSNBC and Britbart I refuse to watch far left or right news sources.  Fox and CNN and many others are at least middleish.
Title: Re: Georgia Senate showdown
Post by: aletheuo137 on November 23, 2020, 02:55:22 PM
Nothing scientific of course, and just sharing an observation....

Two things I can say about people that I personally know who hate Trump...

... has never actually met Trump in person.
... gets their news from CNN.
He fits the bill

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Title: Re: Georgia Senate showdown
Post by: omnigun on November 23, 2020, 03:02:02 PM
https://www.foxnews.com/politics/georgia-absentee-ballot-request-surge-senate-races

GOP better start embracing absentee and mail ballots and get as much voters as possible we need this election win. 
Title: Re: Georgia Senate showdown
Post by: changemyoil66 on November 23, 2020, 03:13:30 PM
If u get ur info from multiple fake news sources, almost all have the same agenda. Fox being the exception. But thats like 1 vs. 10. So "mutiple" doesnt really make a difference.


 

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Title: Re: Georgia Senate showdown
Post by: drck1000 on November 23, 2020, 03:20:07 PM
If u get ur info from multiple fake news sources, almost all have the same agenda. Fox being the exception. But thats like 1 vs. 10. So "mutiple" doesnt really make a difference.


 

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What is mutiple?  Mutated multiple? 

And. . . MSNBC as far left?  Bwahahahahaha.  Uh huh. . .  Should see some stuff I see liberals post.  MSNBC isn't that far left. . .
Title: Re: Georgia Senate showdown
Post by: aletheuo137 on November 23, 2020, 04:36:39 PM
https://www.ft.com/content/18a95526-3af9-4545-9d77-b3a0d7a7640a

Here's another fake news for you

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Title: Re: Georgia Senate showdown
Post by: changemyoil66 on November 23, 2020, 06:28:19 PM
What is mutiple?  Mutated multiple? 

And. . . MSNBC as far left?  Bwahahahahaha.  Uh huh. . .  Should see some stuff I see liberals post.  MSNBC isn't that far left. . .
I lose track of most broadcasters. When i turn the tv on and channels 1003-1008 all report the same orangeman bad stuff.

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Title: Re: Georgia Senate showdown
Post by: omnigun on November 23, 2020, 07:11:21 PM
I lose track of most broadcasters. When i turn the tv on and channels 1003-1008 all report the same orangeman bad stuff.

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I don't have tv, all my news is from the internet.  Thought cable was dead for young ppl.
Title: Re: Georgia Senate showdown
Post by: Flapp_Jackson on November 23, 2020, 08:53:39 PM
What is mutiple?  Mutated multiple? 

And. . . MSNBC as far left?  Bwahahahahaha.  Uh huh. . .  Should see some stuff I see liberals post.  MSNBC isn't that far left. . .

Multiple Miggs.  Choked to death on his own tongue.   :crazy:

Sounds like a plan!   :geekdanc:
Title: Re: Georgia Senate showdown
Post by: Flapp_Jackson on November 23, 2020, 08:58:43 PM
I don't have tv, all my news is from the internet.  Thought cable was dead for young ppl.


Would you do us all a favor and publish a list of the stereotypes you base your opinions on?  It would go a long way toward dismissing your comments up front without having to weed out all the negative biases you harbor against so many groups.

We can start the list with:

Young People:        Don't subscribe to cable TV

Please continue....  I don't have time to review all your previous posts, but I do know old people, Democrats, Republicans, Independents, People on the Mainland, and every documented race and gender should be in there.

Thanks!   :thumbsup:
Title: Re: Georgia Senate showdown
Post by: omnigun on December 02, 2020, 09:14:23 PM
We are fucked

https://www.foxnews.com/politics/pro-trump-attorneys-sidney-powell-lin-wood-urge-georgians-not-vote-senate-runoffs-without-changes
Title: Re: Georgia Senate showdown
Post by: Wchiro on December 02, 2020, 11:36:10 PM
Most of my news is from multiple sources and fox, and yup never met the guy.  I doubt anyone here did. I do google news and www.allsides.com/.  Try and get a balance of all different sides.  I do use CNN but also fox.  Gotta see different sources.  Don't be stuck to just one.   Though MSNBC and Britbart I refuse to watch far left or right news sources.  Fox and CNN and many others are at least middleish.

Check Tucker Carlson's take on your multiple sources:  https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=urAF4Tx_m3g.
Mockingbird Fake news media.
Title: Re: Georgia Senate showdown
Post by: omnigun on January 05, 2021, 05:29:09 PM
Looking bad.  Both Republicans have a slim lead and most of the remaining count is heavy democrat cities like Atlanta.   Fuck everything.  Fuck Trump.   He might of doomed us.  Will keep waiting and hoping but doesn't look good.   
Title: Re: Georgia Senate showdown
Post by: zippz on January 05, 2021, 05:40:03 PM
Votes not looking good, looks like both Dems might win by ~50,000 votes.  Guess I was wrong on ammo prices coming down during the summer.  Going to be a long 4 years.. 
Title: Re: Georgia Senate showdown
Post by: Flapp_Jackson on January 05, 2021, 06:10:10 PM
Votes not looking good, looks like both Dems might win by ~50,000 votes.  Guess I was wrong on ammo prices coming down during the summer.  Going to be a long 4 years..

Just saw a blog entry saying that the results may not be known until lunchtime tomorrow.

I guess Dominion needs more time to gin up actual ballots this time instead of digitally manufacturing Democrat votes.
Title: Re: Georgia Senate showdown
Post by: hvybarrels on January 05, 2021, 06:47:37 PM
Votes not looking good, looks like both Dems might win by ~50,000 votes.  Guess I was wrong on ammo prices coming down during the summer.  Going to be a long 4 years..


It won’t be 4. Population is already getting major buyers remorse now that Trump Derangement Syndrome is wearing off and they discover who really causes the disaster (not Trump). Mid terms are going to be a bloodbath with a lot of RINOs getting taken out as well. Then again will we make it that far as a country? Most beat cops and military grunts support Trump. This latest election fraud just bumped up the possibility of a coup dramatically.

One thing is for sure. The Democrats will screw it all up. They are very consistent like that
Title: Re: Georgia Senate showdown
Post by: mrgaf on January 05, 2021, 06:49:45 PM
As much as I hate to say it the Dummocrats are gonna take it..... welcome to socialism.....we are royally screwed..... :(
Title: Re: Georgia Senate showdown
Post by: Brystont1 on January 05, 2021, 06:50:39 PM


It won’t be 4. Population is already getting major buyers remorse now that Trump Derangement Syndrome is wearing off and they discover who really causes the disaster (not Trump). Mid terms are going to be a bloodbath with a lot of RINOs getting taken out as well. Then again will we make it that far as a country? Most beat cops and military grunts support Trump. This latest election fraud just bumped up the possibility of a coup dramatically.

One thing is for sure. The Democrats will screw it all up. They are very consistent like that

Not sure why we would participate in an election ever again if the fraud is not taken care of. If they could fraudulently win the presidential election how would the RINOs be voted out?
Title: Re: Georgia Senate showdown
Post by: changemyoil66 on January 05, 2021, 06:54:22 PM
Ill say dominion machines are used again and  a D will win.

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Title: Re: Georgia Senate showdown
Post by: hvybarrels on January 05, 2021, 07:16:49 PM
Not sure why we would participate in an election ever again if the fraud is not taken care of. If they could fraudulently win the presidential election how would the RINOs be voted out?

There is a threshold that no amount of cheating will change, but even if they were able to fix that issue I have a feeling that being a faithless election official will become a very hazardous job in the immediate future. All these people caught on video stuffing the ballot boxes could be easily identified by Chan nerds, and now it is pretty much inevitable that we will soon experience a wave of homegrown insurgency by people who feel like they have nothing left to lose. Antifa and BLM just proved that political violence works, so now the question becomes which side is scarier?

The campaigns of fraud and fake news are an act of desperation by a criminally stupid and increasingly senile deep state elite. Instead of graceful accepting the inevitability of populism they just created the conditions for this country to tear itself apart.
Title: Re: Georgia Senate showdown
Post by: drck1000 on January 05, 2021, 07:19:32 PM
Interesting how many sites are referencing AP as source for stats, but are “ahead” of AP in reporting.
Title: Re: Georgia Senate showdown
Post by: ren on January 05, 2021, 07:20:57 PM
no worries..Biden won't be able to pass any gun-grabbing laws without Congress.....
and local ammo sale prices are up right now in the ads...nothing to see 8)
Title: Re: Georgia Senate showdown
Post by: omnigun on January 05, 2021, 08:26:16 PM
no worries..Biden won't be able to pass any gun-grabbing laws without Congress.....
and local ammo sale prices are up right now in the ads...nothing to see 8)

Welp Trump fucked that up.   Now we might not have congress.
Title: Re: Georgia Senate showdown
Post by: macsak on January 05, 2021, 08:37:17 PM
Welp Trump fucked that up.   Now we might not have congress.

sarcasm is hard...
Title: Re: Georgia Senate showdown
Post by: hvybarrels on January 05, 2021, 09:22:45 PM
There is a maximum level of cognitive ability that propaganda works best on.
Title: Re: Georgia Senate showdown
Post by: Kuleana on January 05, 2021, 09:23:45 PM
Instead of graceful accepting the inevitability of populism they just created the conditions for this country to tear itself apart.
Wait a minute; that's my line.
Title: Re: Georgia Senate showdown
Post by: zippz on January 05, 2021, 09:41:43 PM


It won’t be 4. Population is already getting major buyers remorse now that Trump Derangement Syndrome is wearing off and they discover who really causes the disaster (not Trump). Mid terms are going to be a bloodbath with a lot of RINOs getting taken out as well. Then again will we make it that far as a country? Most beat cops and military grunts support Trump. This latest election fraud just bumped up the possibility of a coup dramatically.

One thing is for sure. The Democrats will screw it all up. They are very consistent like that

Reason I say at least 4 years is they have 2 years to pass gun control and possibly flip the Supreme Court.  If Republicans take the House and Senate in 2022, then all they can do is prevent more gun control.  It takes winning the presidency and keeping the house/senate in 2024 to reverse the damage.
Title: Re: Georgia Senate showdown
Post by: jc2721 on January 05, 2021, 10:02:14 PM
Star-Advertiser is reporting that Warnock has won his race, but this is based on AP's "analysis" that Loeffler has no viable way of winning the election (fwiw) :wacko:
Title: Re: Georgia Senate showdown
Post by: ren on January 05, 2021, 10:11:00 PM
and the classifieds are out of control!
Title: Re: Georgia Senate showdown
Post by: hvybarrels on January 05, 2021, 10:24:06 PM
and the classifieds are out of control!

Some difficult decisions to be made for sure. Sell it all before they take it away? Can make a decent bit of coin at the moment but the value of the dollar is dropping like a rock
Title: Re: Georgia Senate showdown
Post by: Flapp_Jackson on January 05, 2021, 11:24:44 PM
As of last report I saw, both races went to the Dems, but the margins are so close, I'm curious if there will be recounts.  Run-off elections may have different rules.

If these results stand, then .....


(https://i.imgur.com/Vg3WfuS.gif)
Title: Re: Georgia Senate showdown
Post by: Wchiro on January 06, 2021, 07:58:31 AM
Most of my news is from multiple sources and fox, and yup never met the guy.  I doubt anyone here did. I do google news and www.allsides.com/.  Try and get a balance of all different sides.  I do use CNN but also fox.  Gotta see different sources.  Don't be stuck to just one.   Though MSNBC and Britbart I refuse to watch far left or right news sources.  Fox and CNN and many others are at least middleish.

Over 90% of the News agency's are owned by 9 Corporations which are anti Trump so you're actually probably getting your news from one source FAKE NEWS.  Fox News have a few pro Trump reporters but the majority are anti Trump. 
Title: Re: Georgia Senate showdown
Post by: Kuleana on January 06, 2021, 08:10:14 AM
Most beat cops and military grunts support Trump. This latest election fraud just bumped up the possibility of a coup dramatically.
What?  A coup led by the police and the military?

Well, how fitting that if this happens.  America, the empire in denial, will officially become the "Empire of the United States".
Title: Re: Georgia Senate showdown
Post by: Brystont1 on January 06, 2021, 08:32:40 AM
Damn the dems have the house senate and the presidency  :rofl:

Well I remember when we were so excited in 2016 when republicans controlled all 3 and they didn’t do squat. It’s gonna be an interesting couple of years.
Title: Re: Georgia Senate showdown
Post by: changemyoil66 on January 06, 2021, 08:59:34 AM
Over 90% of the News agency's are owned by 9 Corporations which are anti Trump so you're actually probably getting your news from one source FAKE NEWS.  Fox News have a few pro Trump reporters but the majority are anti Trump.

Pretty much hit the nail on the head.  I follow independent journalist for the past 4 years.
Title: Re: Georgia Senate showdown
Post by: changemyoil66 on January 06, 2021, 09:00:17 AM
Damn the dems have the house senate and the presidency  :rofl:

Well I remember when we were so excited in 2016 when republicans controlled all 3 and they didn’t do squat. It’s gonna be an interesting couple of years.

But like 1 person posted, it's OK because it will only be for the next 4 years.
Title: Re: Georgia Senate showdown
Post by: omnigun on January 06, 2021, 09:37:07 AM
Dang I hope pence runs in 2024.  I got new respect for the man.  This is what an actual republican looks like.

“It is my considered judgment that my oath to support and defend the Constitution constrains me from claiming unilateral authority to determine which electoral votes should be counted and which should not,” Pence wrote in his three-page letter addressed to members of Congress.
Title: Re: Georgia Senate showdown
Post by: mrgaf on January 06, 2021, 10:49:56 AM
What?  A coup led by the police and the military?

Well, how fitting that if this happens.  America, the empire in denial, will officially become the "Empire of the United States".

OMG you starting up again?  :D
Title: Re: Georgia Senate showdown
Post by: hvybarrels on January 06, 2021, 11:02:07 AM
What?  A coup led by the police and the military?

Well, how fitting that if this happens.  America, the empire in denial, will officially become the "Empire of the United States".

Your Sinophilia is obvious, creepy, and distasteful.

No, Comrade. Not everything is about your precious anti-capitalist revolution.

All the cops and grunts have to do is stand down.
Title: Re: Georgia Senate showdown
Post by: rklapp on January 06, 2021, 12:35:42 PM
I told you so. This does not make me happy.
Title: Re: Georgia Senate showdown
Post by: Kuleana on January 06, 2021, 02:10:10 PM
OMG you starting up again?  :D
Not at all Mr. G.   :shaka:

I just find it ironic how many of my contentions, regarding the fall, of the US, into a declining fascist empire, is coming to fruition.

The American people themselves are being played, against one another, by the ultrawealthy elite.  Rigged elections; flip flopping politicians; and paid-off patsies, on both the so-called Left and Right stirring-up civil unrest.  All of these shenanigans are dress rehearsal, for what was planned a long time ago.  Trump was nothing, but a stumbling block, in their plans, providing a brief reprieve to America's old guard.

Unfortunately, for those, who believed in Trump was playing 4D chess, as did this Hawaiian; whatever you want to call those who really control the US, they were playing 5D chess and are about to checkmate the last remanence, of the old American Republic.
Title: Re: Georgia Senate showdown
Post by: hvybarrels on January 06, 2021, 02:24:34 PM
Not at all Mr. G.   :shaka:

I just find it ironic how many of my contentions, regarding the fall, of the US, into a declining fascist empire, is coming to fruition.

The American people themselves are being played, against one another, by the ultrawealthy elite.  Rigged elections; flip flopping politicians; and paid-off patsies, on both the so-called Left and Right stirring-up civil unrest.  All of these shenanigans are dress rehearsal, for what was planned a long time ago.  Trump was nothing, but a stumbling block, in their plans, providing a brief reprieve to America's old guard.

Unfortunately, for those, who believed in Trump was playing 4D chess, as did this Hawaiian; whatever you want to call those who really control the US, they were playing 5D chess and are about to checkmate the last remanence, of the old American Republic.

It is difficult to tell if you despise fascism (whatever that means) because you speak about it with so much admiration and respect.

We are not witnessing the checkmate of a grand game played by the masters of the human race, but rather a bunch of senile old fools desperately clawing for power as the population turns against them.
Title: Re: Georgia Senate showdown
Post by: macsak on January 06, 2021, 02:40:01 PM
Not at all Mr. G.   :shaka:

I just find it ironic how many of my contentions, regarding the fall, of the US, into a declining fascist empire, is coming to fruition.

The American people themselves are being played, against one another, by the ultrawealthy elite.  Rigged elections; flip flopping politicians; and paid-off patsies, on both the so-called Left and Right stirring-up civil unrest.  All of these shenanigans are dress rehearsal, for what was planned a long time ago.  Trump was nothing, but a stumbling block, in their plans, providing a brief reprieve to America's old guard.

Unfortunately, for those, who believed in Trump was playing 4D chess, as did this Hawaiian; whatever you want to call those who really control the US, they were playing 5D chess and are about to checkmate the last remanence, of the old American Republic.

do you get paid per comma?
Title: Re: Georgia Senate showdown
Post by: Flapp_Jackson on January 06, 2021, 02:43:41 PM
It is difficult to tell if you despise fascism (whatever that means) because you speak about it with so much admiration and respect.

We are not witnessing the checkmate of a grand game played by the masters of the human race, but rather a bunch of senile old fools desperately clawing for power as the population turns against them.

I'm not so sure we have a majority of "fools" voting for oppressive government as much as we have a few of those people already in power cheating to retain/regain power where they can.

It's obvious the Left can't win on the merits of their ideas, or they wouldn't always be on the side that benefits from all the "glitches", anomalies, unconstitutional rule changes and 3AM magical ballot deliveries.
Title: Re: Georgia Senate showdown
Post by: groveler on January 06, 2021, 02:45:05 PM
Pop quiz, Hot Shot!

Without using ANY Internet or WWW resources, answer this pop culture question:

What does "jump the shark," mean, and when/how did it become a saying?

No lifelines!  No phoning a friend, no 50/50 (essay questions don't have that), and no polling the audience (friends, family, neighbors, coworkers, stray dog, imaginary friends, ...).

If you know this, it should take only one or two sentences.

READY?

GO!!

 :geekdanc: :popcorn:
I was just reviewing some 2A posts and came across this.
I didn't see any answers.  I never watched the show but I think it
was Happy days and the Fontz riding something going over a shark.
I never understood the term other than doing something too soon.
Title: Re: Georgia Senate showdown
Post by: Flapp_Jackson on January 06, 2021, 03:02:22 PM
I was just reviewing some 2A posts and came across this.
I didn't see any answers.  I never watched the show but I think it
was Happy days and the Fontz riding something going over a shark.
I never understood the term other than doing something too soon.

Correct-a-mundo ...   :thumbsup: :geekdanc:

The "something" was water-skis.  Of course, he wore his leather jacket during the jump.    :rofl:

"Jumping the shark" is now an idiom used to describe a misguided attempt at generating new publicity for something that was once, but which is no longer, widely popular; the attempt serves instead to highlight the irrelevance of what it intends to promote.

The Happy Days episode had dual meaning.  Fonzie had lost his courage and was desperate to get it back.  He thought taking a challenge nobody else had the guts to do would restore his courage.  In the same way, the show was in a ratings period.  They thought something outrageous like Fonzie jumping a shark would score big on the ratings.

https://youtu.be/VLDER6GP30c
Title: Re: Georgia Senate showdown
Post by: groveler on January 06, 2021, 03:07:36 PM
I'm not so sure we have a majority of "fools" voting for oppressive government as much as we have a few of those people already in power cheating to retain/regain power where they can.

It's obvious the Left can't win on the merits of their ideas, or they wouldn't always be on the side that benefits from all the "glitches", anomalies, unconstitutional rule changes and 3AM magical ballot deliveries.
I have a different point of view.
The left's point of view will always win because it rewards idiots that vote.
Most people aren't all that smart.  They are cleaver, but not smart.
So they can be motivated to do things not in their best long term
interests by a short term reward.
They can be fed BS that makes them fearful and acting out of ignorance
do anything to eliminate that threat. Climate change, Covid 19 et al.

I despise the Democrat party and their values.
But I know most people are idiots so Democrats will be the majority.
America was originally set up to negate this problem and even the
"playing field", so the smart guys and the idiots had equal chances
at America's opportunities, but little possibility of oppressing each other.
That is today, long gone.
This 20JAN21 will kill America.
Smart guys will prepare for and destroy the Democrats source of
resources.  Idiots will steal our resources by passing laws we can
no longer legally oppose.
I'm glad I'm not on the mainland.





Title: Re: Georgia Senate showdown
Post by: Flapp_Jackson on January 06, 2021, 03:15:50 PM
I have a different point of view.
The left's point of view will always win because it rewards idiots that vote.
Most people aren't all that smart.  They are cleaver, but not smart.
So they can be motivated to do things not in their best long term
interests by a short term reward.
They can be fed BS that makes them fearful and acting out of ignorance
do anything to eliminate that threat. Climate change, Covid 19 et al.

I despise the Democrat party and their values.
But I know most people are idiots so Democrats will be the majority.
America was originally set up to negate this problem and even the
"playing field", so the smart guys and the idiots had equal chances
at America's opportunities, but little possibility of oppressing each other.
That is today, long gone.
This 20JAN21 will kill America.
Smart guys will prepare for and destroy the Democrats source of
resources.  Idiots will steal our resources by passing laws we can
no longer legally oppose.
I'm glad I'm not on the mainland.

I understand the theory, but election after election, the Liberal left hasn't been able to motivate their voters to actually vote.  They talk, blog and Tweet a good game, but when the elections roll around, they just don't vote like Republicans seem to.

At least that was the case before Obama.  Even then, I have a feeling donations going through China-based web servers and ballot harvesting where people just didn't show up at the polls were the difference. 

Hillary still thinks she won.  The popular vote was increased nationally by states that were voting Blue anyway, such as CA and NY.  Didn't matter if they had record turn out.  It only mattered in swing states.

I still think the level of cheating has increased, and the lack of transparency and empathy to get to the truth proves it.

"I think I have COVID-19.  Can I get treatment?"

"Prove you have COVID."

"I need the test kit, and you have them all.  Will you provide me one?"

"Sorry.  If you have no proof you're sick, we certainly aren't going to help you gather that evidence. That's on you."
Title: Re: Georgia Senate showdown
Post by: Kuleana on January 06, 2021, 06:33:07 PM
We are not witnessing the checkmate of a grand game played by the masters of the human race, but rather a bunch of senile old fools desperately clawing for power as the population turns against them.
If the US population is turning against them, then that's only 50%.  Not enough to break the hold of the imperial power elite.

You know what's really funny.  If I even mentioned that some group would storm the US Capitol and said that was the signal, for the end of the US, sometime last year; I would bet my view would have been dismissed and I would have been dog-piled, not only by you, but everyone else who saw the US, as you do.

Well, some group did cross the Rubicon, sacked the US Capitol, and still there some blowing this off, as nothing, thinking all of America will be holding hands and singing Kumbaya, in the near future.  My God; and there are some who think I am delusional.

The historical signs of nation fall is already written on many urban city walls.  The ever declining US will soon unmask itself, showing its true face of empire, and then later balkanize, into separate nation states, based on political, racial, or ethnic affiliation.

I have no time table for this outcome, but then again, I did not think the storming, of the US Capitol, would happen so soon...

Title: Re: Georgia Senate showdown
Post by: drck1000 on January 06, 2021, 07:30:26 PM
Sacked the US Capitol? Maybe I’ve been watching too much GoT and other medieval shows, like Robin Hood. That doesn’t seem like sacking. Over dramatic much?
Title: Re: Georgia Senate showdown
Post by: Flapp_Jackson on January 06, 2021, 07:34:51 PM
My God; and there are some who think I am delusional.

Are you sure you're not imagining that?   :wacko: :geekdanc:
Title: Re: Georgia Senate showdown
Post by: aieahound on January 06, 2021, 07:41:05 PM
If the US population is turning against them, then that's only 50%.

That’s the scary part.
The Country is split in half.
Was with the last election also but it’s more pronounced and visible.
Clinton supporters crying like babies was a lot different than Trump supporters storming the Capitol.
The line keeps getting drawn deeper by both sides.
Title: Re: Georgia Senate showdown
Post by: Kuleana on January 06, 2021, 09:18:15 PM
Are you sure you're not imagining that?   :wacko: :geekdanc:
To be honest, since what's happening, in the US, is so surreal, I really don't know anymore.

Even with the views everyone knows I have; I, myself, can't believe the events that are really unfolding.
Title: Re: Georgia Senate showdown
Post by: Kuleana on January 06, 2021, 09:36:53 PM
do you get paid per comma?
Eh, I gotta earn a living brah.
Title: Re: Georgia Senate showdown
Post by: Kuleana on January 06, 2021, 09:41:05 PM
Sacked the US Capitol? Maybe I’ve been watching too much GoT and other medieval shows, like Robin Hood. That doesn’t seem like sacking. Over dramatic much?
I was using the 21st century version of mob sacking.

Let's hope some other group does not partake in some "old school" sacking, with rape and pillaging.
Title: Re: Georgia Senate showdown
Post by: macsak on January 06, 2021, 09:44:06 PM
Eh, I gotta, earn a living, brah.

fify
Title: Re: Georgia Senate showdown
Post by: ren on January 06, 2021, 09:48:19 PM
If the US population is turning against them, then that's only 50%.  Not enough to break the hold of the imperial power elite.

You know what's really funny.  If I even mentioned that some group would storm the US Capitol and said that was the signal, for the end of the US, sometime last year; I would bet my view would have been dismissed and I would have been dog-piled, not only by you, but everyone else who saw the US, as you do.

Well, some group did cross the Rubicon, sacked the US Capitol, and still there some blowing this off, as nothing, thinking all of America will be holding hands and singing Kumbaya, in the near future.  My God; and there are some who think I am delusional.

The historical signs of nation fall is already written on many urban city walls.  The ever declining US will soon unmask itself, showing its true face of empire, and then later balkanize, into separate nation states, based on political, racial, or ethnic affiliation.

I have no time table for this outcome, but then again, I did not think the storming, of the US Capitol, would happen so soon...

I don't agree with most of your perspectives and opinions but I can see your point in this post.
Title: Re: Georgia Senate showdown
Post by: mrgaf on January 07, 2021, 02:34:17 PM
I don't agree with most of your perspectives and opinions but I can see your point in this post.

+1 don’t know about nation states but I do see a schism akin to the north vs south. Maybe not in my lifetime but I do believe it will happen... :-\