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General Topics => General Discussion => Topic started by: Glasser on February 13, 2021, 09:46:38 AM

Title: Utah has dropped its gun permit law
Post by: Glasser on February 13, 2021, 09:46:38 AM
https://www.deseret.com/utah/2021/2/12/22252550/utah-drops-concealed-carry-permit-gun-safety-training-constitutional-carry
Title: Re: Utah has dropped its gun permit law
Post by: oldfart on February 13, 2021, 10:16:55 AM
Wow
A state that trusts it's people to behave. :thumbsup:

Disclaimer....
Most of my family are mormon. :D
Title: Re: Utah has dropped its gun permit law
Post by: punaperson on February 13, 2021, 12:32:19 PM
Previously, in "Legal and Activism"...

https://2ahawaii.com/index.php?topic=40087.0

"Utah passes permitless carry, 17th such state... Hawaii still full o' sh*t"

Title: Re: Utah has dropped its gun permit law
Post by: mrgaf on February 13, 2021, 06:02:41 PM
Wonder if Utah will process my Non Resident CCW permit renewal since the state is going to permitless carry... ???
Title: Re: Utah has dropped its gun permit law
Post by: Flapp_Jackson on February 13, 2021, 06:23:01 PM
Wonder if Utah will process my Non Resident CCW permit renewal since the state is going to permitless carry... ???

They will continue to issue both resident and non-resident permits.  Primarily it's to accommodate residents who travel and want to take advantage of CCW reciprocity.  Non-residents can also apply/renew, but if your state issues permits and have a reciprocity agreement with UTAH, you need to send a copy of your home state's CCW permit with the Utah application.

I checked the list, and for some reason Hawaii residents don't need to submit that.  So strange.   :rofl:

You can renew online up to 90 days prior to expiration of your current permit or within 1 year past expiration.

You'll need to watch a suicide prevention/education video, upload a passport photo of yourself, and pay $25.75 as a non-resident.  $0.75 is a "convenience fee" for applying online.

Doesn't look like it's difficult.  No prints, no medical records.  They do run a background check, and processing takes 2 weeks for them to mail you the new permit.

https://bci.utah.gov/concealed-firearm/how-do-i-renew-my-concealed-firearm-permit/

https://bci.utah.gov/concealed-firearm/reciprocity-with-other-states/
Title: Re: Utah has dropped its gun permit law
Post by: drck1000 on February 13, 2021, 07:33:38 PM
If I still was into snow boarding, I would consider living there. A cousin lived near near one of the nicer resorts when I was in college, but never got to visit.
Title: Re: Utah has dropped its gun permit law
Post by: RSN172 on February 13, 2021, 08:08:18 PM
Wonder if Utah will process my Non Resident CCW permit renewal since the state is going to permitless carry... ???
I renewed my UT and AZ permits in Dec 2020.  Both was super easy to do.  Couldn't renew my NV one since that has to be done in state and I wasn't traveling due to Covid, but both the UT and AZ permits are valid in NV.
Title: Re: Utah has dropped its gun permit law
Post by: Lanson on February 14, 2021, 07:11:47 AM
https://www.deseret.com/utah/2021/2/12/22252550/utah-drops-concealed-carry-permit-gun-safety-training-constitutional-carry
That's a great move tbh
Title: Re: Utah has dropped its gun permit law
Post by: Platinum808 on February 14, 2021, 09:05:22 AM
That's a great move tbh
Are the Utah CCW permits for out of state still valid?
Title: Re: Utah has dropped its gun permit law
Post by: Flapp_Jackson on February 14, 2021, 12:10:10 PM
Are the Utah CCW permits for out of state still valid?

Yes, as long as you keep them up-to-date (not expired).

They will continue to issue both resident and non-resident permits.  Primarily it's to accommodate residents who travel and want to take advantage of CCW reciprocity.  Non-residents can also apply/renew, but if your state issues permits and have a reciprocity agreement with UTAH, you need to send a copy of your home state's CCW permit with the Utah application.

I checked the list, and for some reason Hawaii residents don't need to submit that.  So strange.   :rofl:

You can renew online up to 90 days prior to expiration of your current permit or within 1 year past expiration.

You'll need to watch a suicide prevention/education video, upload a passport photo of yourself, and pay $25.75 as a non-resident.  $0.75 is a "convenience fee" for applying online.

Doesn't look like it's difficult.  No prints, no medical records.  They do run a background check, and processing takes 2 weeks for them to mail you the new permit.

https://bci.utah.gov/concealed-firearm/how-do-i-renew-my-concealed-firearm-permit/

https://bci.utah.gov/concealed-firearm/reciprocity-with-other-states/
Title: Re: Utah has dropped its gun permit law
Post by: Platinum808 on February 14, 2021, 01:57:49 PM
 :shaka:
Title: Re: Utah has dropped its gun permit law
Post by: Glasser on February 18, 2021, 01:29:54 PM
You can now add Montana to the list
 They just passed 'constitutional carry'.

HB 102 is NRA-backed legislation that recognizes law-abiding gun owners' right to carry a firearm without first obtaining a permit
Title: Re: Utah has dropped its gun permit law
Post by: 6716J on February 18, 2021, 01:32:03 PM
You can now add Montana to the list
 They just passed 'constitutional carry'.

HB 102 is NRA-backed legislation that recognizes law-abiding gun owners' right to carry a firearm without first obtaining a permit

https://www.nraila.org/articles/20210218/constitutional-carry-passes-in-montana
Title: Re: Utah has dropped its gun permit law
Post by: Rocky on February 18, 2021, 03:11:03 PM
   Not to be tooooooooo anal but Utah does not have CCW permits.

It's called a "Concealed Firearm Permit   (CFP)

   #it'snotaclip     :geekdanc:
Title: Re: Utah has dropped its gun permit law
Post by: punaperson on February 19, 2021, 07:19:51 AM
You can now add Montana to the list
 They just passed 'constitutional carry'.

HB 102 is NRA-backed legislation that recognizes law-abiding gun owners' right to carry a firearm without first obtaining a permit
Montana was already 99+% "constitutional carry". Only a few cities banned it and required a state issued permit. A statewide law was needed because those cities are run by Democrats and there was no chance of gaining control of those legislative bodies and eliminating the restricting laws at the local level.
Title: Re: Utah has dropped its gun permit law
Post by: Glasser on February 19, 2021, 08:37:45 AM
A statewide law was needed because those cities are run by Democrats and there was no chance of gaining control of those legislative bodies and eliminating the restricting laws at the local level.

Sounds like they saw what has been happening in Virginia and decided to stamp out the big city Dems anti-gun BS before it could grow to a real problem.
Title: Re: Utah has dropped its gun permit law
Post by: RSN172 on February 19, 2021, 09:18:57 AM
   Not to be tooooooooo anal but Utah does not have CCW permits.

It's called a "Concealed Firearm Permit   (CFP)

   #it'snotaclip     :geekdanc:
And my AZ permit is a Concealed Weapons Permit.

We all stay kno dey da same ting. You kin carry one gun an no get arrest.
Not lik ova hea, whea dey find one 9MM round insai you pocket an lik make
same same lik you waz stay carrying one gun.
Title: Re: Utah has dropped its gun permit law
Post by: Rocky on February 19, 2021, 10:50:39 AM
And my AZ permit is a Concealed Weapons Permit.
And my Hawaii permit is a  "No can da kine" :crazy:

We all stay kno dey da same ting. You kin carry one gun an no get arrest.
Not lik ova hea, whea dey find one 9MM round insai you pocket an lik make
same same lik you waz stay carrying one gun.
And if get 2, you'ze one mass shoota suspek  :o
Title: Re: Utah has dropped its gun permit law
Post by: Flapp_Jackson on February 19, 2021, 11:17:08 AM
Concealed Weapon can include knives, Tasers, etc.  In states that issue Concealed Firearm Permits and Concealed Pistol Permits (with "Pistol" or "Firearm" in the name), they often prohibit the concealed carry of any other weapon -- lethal or not.

Same for states that choose to omit "Concealed."  Indiana, Pennsylvania, and Minnesota are Permit to Carry states which means, you can choose to have your gun fully concealed or carried in plain view. Others call this LTC or License to Carry.

It's all a state-by-state situation.  Know the laws of each state in which you can carry.  This is especially true if you are using CCW Reciprocity.  Your License to Carry might allow open carry where it was issued, but it might only allow concealed carry in states honoring that issuing state's permit.