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General Topics => Legal and Activism => Topic started by: Volcano_man111 on February 28, 2023, 05:06:48 AM
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I can’t find any info on this regarding the law in Hawaii. For example a Keltec sub2000 that uses Glock mags. Technically a carbine so can we use 10+ Glock mags?
Sorry if this has been discussed before.
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I believe the law bans any mags that can be used in a pistol with a capacity with more than 10 rounds. So in this case even if going into a carbine since it could also be used in a pistol it is technically not allowed.
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I believe the law bans any mags that can be used in a pistol with a capacity with more than 10 rounds. So in this case even if going into a carbine since it could also be used in a pistol it is technically not allowed.
This is correct.
Some people get around this by permanently modifying the carbine and magazines, where it only fits that and not pistols.
Though since you cannot have the pistol mags initially, it has to be modified out of state or by a ffl or Leo in Hawaii
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This is correct.
Some people get around this by permanently modifying the carbine and magazines, where it only fits that and not pistols.
Though since you cannot have the pistol mags initially, it has to be modified out of state or by a ffl or Leo in Hawaii
Interesting. How would you modify a mag to not work in a pistol but in the carbine?
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Interesting. How would you modify a mag to not work in a pistol but in the carbine?
I think he means mod it to 10rds because it would be illegal for you to posses, even though your intention is to weld it later.
HIFICO already has a lawsuit. Abbott vs. Lopez (Shikada/Connors).
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no, he meant what he said...
I think he means mod it to 10rds because it would be illegal for you to posses, even though your intention is to weld it later.
HIFICO already has a lawsuit. Abbott vs. Lopez (Shikada/Connors).
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Interesting. How would you modify a mag to not work in a pistol but in the carbine?
That usually entails adding a screw, pin or other material to the mag that prevents inserting it into any pistol.
You could drill a hole in the mag and epoxy a pin into it. Then you'd need to cut a groove or slot into the magwell of the carbine to align with that pin so it can be fully inserted. Sort of an "insert Tab A into Slot B" mod.
You won't be able to insert the modified mag into any unmodified firearm without removing the mod to the mag or modifying the firearm. However, you will still be able to use unmodified mags in the carbine.
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That usually entails adding a screw, pin or other material to the mag that prevents inserting it into any pistol.
You could drill a hole in the mag and epoxy a pin into it. Then you'd need to cut a groove or slot into the magwell of the carbine to align with that pin so it can be fully inserted. Sort of an "insert Tab A into Slot B" mod.
You won't be able to insert the modified mag into any unmodified firearm without removing the mod to the mag or modifying the firearm. However, you will still be able to use unmodified mags in the carbine.
Very cool. Thanks for the info
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Has to be done the right way too. For example if you mod a Glock 17 mag to a carbine, it can't fit in the smaller grip of. A Glock 26 either.
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Has to be done the right way too. For example if you mod a Glock 17 mag to a carbine, it can't fit in the smaller grip of. A Glock 26 either.
I covered that by saying "prevents inserting it into any pistol".
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possession is only a misdemeanor. if you insert it into a pistol it becomes a felony.
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possession is only a misdemeanor. if you insert it into a pistol it becomes a felony.
How many misdemeanors have you had?
"Only"? :rofl: :rofl: :rofl:
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How many misdemeanors have you had?
"Only"? :rofl: :rofl: :rofl:
I identify as criminal, they have more rights than worthless law abiding civilians.
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I identify as criminal, they have more rights than worthless law abiding civilians.
Hawaii seems hell bent on making laws that will turn law abiding citizens into criminals if they even fart while concealed carrying.
Meanwhile the criminal element is being released on no bail to commit crimes again and when they don't show up for court the courts just look at each other and say oh well........we are log jammed.....
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Sorry to revive an old thread. I was looking at the PSA AR 9mm colt style lowers. I’m guessing those 10+ mags will be allowed in Hawaii as they are for ARs and not pistols.
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Sorry to revive an old thread. I was looking at the PSA AR 9mm colt style lowers. I’m guessing those 10+ mags will be allowed in Hawaii as they are for ARs and not pistols.
Yes, Colt or Colt style 9mm AR-15 mags are good to go in Hawaii. I have several 20 and 32 rounders for my Colt 9mm AR-15.
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Sorry to revive an old thread. I was looking at the PSA AR 9mm colt style lowers. I’m guessing those 10+ mags will be allowed in Hawaii as they are for ARs and not pistols.
Although the magazines you mentioned are allowed in Hawaii, PSA will not ship any magazines with capacity over 10 to Hawaii.
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Although the magazines you mentioned are allowed in Hawaii, PSA will not ship any magazines with capacity over 10 to Hawaii.
Brownells has shipped them in the past and Kaneohe Gun Shop stocks them when he can get them.
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Ive used Brownells and Midway with no issues for magazines.
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Yes, Colt or Colt style 9mm AR-15 mags are good to go in Hawaii. I have several 20 and 32 rounders for my Colt 9mm AR-15.
Awesome. Thanks for sharing
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Awesome. Thanks for sharing
Technically, the law says any rifle mags that can function in a pistol is prohibited -- including AR platforms.
HOWEVER, HI law also says any AR pistol can't have a removable magazine and/or a semi-auto action. That disables the characteristics that would allow it to function as a removable magazine in a legal AR pistol.
So, logically, >10rd mags are okay for AR rifles. Additionally, the 10rd mag limit hasn't been enforced since I've been here (22 yrs).
I'd give you a 98% chance that you're safe -- at least until HI law changes to ban all >10rd mags in all firearms.
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Yes, Colt or Colt style 9mm AR-15 mags are good to go in Hawaii. I have several 20 and 32 rounders for my Colt 9mm AR-15.
late to the party, sorry.
IMHO, the Colt-style Metalform mags, with the metal followers are better (more reliable feeding), than the ASC mags with the plastic/polymer follower. and yes, the Metalforms are harder to get. They do get rebranded on occasion by Brownells and PSA. Barrel feed-cone geometry has a lot of influence on reliable feeding, some barrel brands do it better than others. Rudy at Macon Armory is able to work magic on problematic barrels, but his prices have gone up significantly for this service, as have prices for damn-near everything else.
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late to the party, sorry.
IMHO, the Colt-style Metalform mags, with the metal followers are better (more reliable feeding), than the ASC mags with the plastic/polymer follower. and yes, the Metalforms are harder to get. They do get rebranded on occasion by Brownells and PSA. Barrel feed-cone geometry has a lot of influence on reliable feeding, some barrel brands do it better than others. Rudy at Macon Armory is able to work magic on problematic barrels, but his prices have gone up significantly for this service, as have prices for damn-near everything else.
Can you explain how this applies to whether > 10rd mags are prohibited or not? I must have missed something you implied, which is why i'm probably not invited to many parties.
:shaka:
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Can you explain how this applies to whether > 10rd mags are prohibited or not? I must have missed something you implied, which is why i'm probably not invited to many parties.
:shaka:
I thought it had already been agreed upon that the Colt-style 32rd 9mm mags were GTG for the Colt-style 9mm AR carbine in Hawaii. I thought that horse had already been beaten dead. so was just providing some additional insight. that's all.
I guess I completely missed the party, darn-near necro thread.
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