Law regarding mag capacity for 16 inch carbine that shoots 9mm (Read 5911 times)

Volcano_man111

Law regarding mag capacity for 16 inch carbine that shoots 9mm
« on: February 28, 2023, 05:06:48 AM »
I can’t find any info on this regarding the law in Hawaii. For example a Keltec sub2000 that uses Glock mags. Technically a carbine so can we use 10+ Glock mags?

Sorry if this has been discussed before.

Tacozfail

Re: Law regarding mag capacity for 16 inch carbine that shoots 9mm
« Reply #1 on: February 28, 2023, 05:17:39 AM »
I believe the law bans any mags that can be used in a pistol with a capacity with more than 10 rounds. So in this case even if going into a carbine since it could also be used in a pistol it is technically not allowed.

zippz

Re: Law regarding mag capacity for 16 inch carbine that shoots 9mm
« Reply #2 on: February 28, 2023, 10:40:19 AM »
I believe the law bans any mags that can be used in a pistol with a capacity with more than 10 rounds. So in this case even if going into a carbine since it could also be used in a pistol it is technically not allowed.

This is correct.

Some people get around this by permanently  modifying the carbine and magazines, where it only fits that and not pistols.

Though since you cannot have the pistol mags initially, it has to be modified out of state or by a ffl or Leo in Hawaii

Volcano_man111

Re: Law regarding mag capacity for 16 inch carbine that shoots 9mm
« Reply #3 on: February 28, 2023, 10:50:47 AM »
This is correct.

Some people get around this by permanently  modifying the carbine and magazines, where it only fits that and not pistols.

Though since you cannot have the pistol mags initially, it has to be modified out of state or by a ffl or Leo in Hawaii
Interesting. How would you modify a mag to not work in a pistol but in the carbine?

changemyoil66

Re: Law regarding mag capacity for 16 inch carbine that shoots 9mm
« Reply #4 on: February 28, 2023, 11:20:37 AM »
Interesting. How would you modify a mag to not work in a pistol but in the carbine?

I think he means mod it to 10rds because it would be illegal for you to posses, even though your intention is to weld it later.

HIFICO already has a lawsuit. Abbott vs. Lopez (Shikada/Connors).

macsak

Re: Law regarding mag capacity for 16 inch carbine that shoots 9mm
« Reply #5 on: February 28, 2023, 12:04:43 PM »
no, he meant what he said...

I think he means mod it to 10rds because it would be illegal for you to posses, even though your intention is to weld it later.

HIFICO already has a lawsuit. Abbott vs. Lopez (Shikada/Connors).

Flapp_Jackson

Re: Law regarding mag capacity for 16 inch carbine that shoots 9mm
« Reply #6 on: February 28, 2023, 12:42:52 PM »
Interesting. How would you modify a mag to not work in a pistol but in the carbine?

That usually entails adding a screw, pin or other material to the mag that prevents inserting it into any pistol.

You could drill a hole in the mag and epoxy a pin into it.  Then you'd need to cut a groove or slot into the magwell of the carbine to align with that pin so it can be fully inserted.  Sort of an "insert Tab A into Slot B" mod.

You won't be able to insert the modified mag into any unmodified firearm without removing the mod to the mag or modifying the firearm.  However, you will still be able to use unmodified mags in the carbine.
The reasonable man adapts himself to the world;
the unreasonable one persists in trying to adapt the world to himself.
Therefore, all progress depends on the unreasonable man.
-- George Bernard Shaw

Volcano_man111

Re: Law regarding mag capacity for 16 inch carbine that shoots 9mm
« Reply #7 on: February 28, 2023, 01:21:45 PM »
That usually entails adding a screw, pin or other material to the mag that prevents inserting it into any pistol.

You could drill a hole in the mag and epoxy a pin into it.  Then you'd need to cut a groove or slot into the magwell of the carbine to align with that pin so it can be fully inserted.  Sort of an "insert Tab A into Slot B" mod.

You won't be able to insert the modified mag into any unmodified firearm without removing the mod to the mag or modifying the firearm.  However, you will still be able to use unmodified mags in the carbine.
Very cool. Thanks for the info

zippz

Re: Law regarding mag capacity for 16 inch carbine that shoots 9mm
« Reply #8 on: February 28, 2023, 04:02:34 PM »
Has to be done the right way too.  For example if you mod a Glock 17 mag to a carbine, it can't fit in the smaller grip of. A Glock 26 either.

Flapp_Jackson

Re: Law regarding mag capacity for 16 inch carbine that shoots 9mm
« Reply #9 on: February 28, 2023, 04:09:28 PM »
Has to be done the right way too.  For example if you mod a Glock 17 mag to a carbine, it can't fit in the smaller grip of. A Glock 26 either.

I covered that by saying "prevents inserting it into any pistol".

 
The reasonable man adapts himself to the world;
the unreasonable one persists in trying to adapt the world to himself.
Therefore, all progress depends on the unreasonable man.
-- George Bernard Shaw

randay

Re: Law regarding mag capacity for 16 inch carbine that shoots 9mm
« Reply #10 on: February 28, 2023, 06:19:10 PM »
possession is only a misdemeanor. if you insert it into a pistol it becomes a felony. 

Flapp_Jackson

Re: Law regarding mag capacity for 16 inch carbine that shoots 9mm
« Reply #11 on: February 28, 2023, 08:34:02 PM »
possession is only a misdemeanor. if you insert it into a pistol it becomes a felony.

How many misdemeanors have you had?

"Only"?   :rofl: :rofl: :rofl:
The reasonable man adapts himself to the world;
the unreasonable one persists in trying to adapt the world to himself.
Therefore, all progress depends on the unreasonable man.
-- George Bernard Shaw

randay

Re: Law regarding mag capacity for 16 inch carbine that shoots 9mm
« Reply #12 on: March 01, 2023, 12:31:25 PM »
How many misdemeanors have you had?

"Only"?   :rofl: :rofl: :rofl:

I identify as criminal, they have more rights than worthless law abiding civilians.

QUIETShooter

Re: Law regarding mag capacity for 16 inch carbine that shoots 9mm
« Reply #13 on: March 01, 2023, 01:42:10 PM »
I identify as criminal, they have more rights than worthless law abiding civilians.

Hawaii seems hell bent on making laws that will turn law abiding citizens into criminals if they even fart while concealed carrying.

Meanwhile the criminal element is being released on no bail to commit crimes again and when they don't show up for court the courts just look at each other and say oh well........we are log jammed.....
Sometimes you gotta know when to save your bullets.

Volcano_man111

Re: Law regarding mag capacity for 16 inch carbine that shoots 9mm
« Reply #14 on: June 03, 2023, 03:15:36 PM »
Sorry to revive an old thread. I was looking at the PSA AR 9mm colt style lowers. I’m guessing those 10+ mags will be allowed in Hawaii as they are for ARs and not pistols.

dogman

Re: Law regarding mag capacity for 16 inch carbine that shoots 9mm
« Reply #15 on: June 03, 2023, 03:32:52 PM »
Sorry to revive an old thread. I was looking at the PSA AR 9mm colt style lowers. I’m guessing those 10+ mags will be allowed in Hawaii as they are for ARs and not pistols.
Yes, Colt or Colt style 9mm AR-15 mags are good to go in Hawaii. I have several 20 and 32 rounders for my Colt 9mm AR-15.

HeliosRX8

Re: Law regarding mag capacity for 16 inch carbine that shoots 9mm
« Reply #16 on: June 03, 2023, 03:44:40 PM »
Sorry to revive an old thread. I was looking at the PSA AR 9mm colt style lowers. I’m guessing those 10+ mags will be allowed in Hawaii as they are for ARs and not pistols.

Although the magazines you mentioned are allowed in Hawaii, PSA will not ship any magazines with capacity over 10 to Hawaii.

dogman

Re: Law regarding mag capacity for 16 inch carbine that shoots 9mm
« Reply #17 on: June 03, 2023, 03:58:01 PM »
Although the magazines you mentioned are allowed in Hawaii, PSA will not ship any magazines with capacity over 10 to Hawaii.
Brownells has shipped them in the past and Kaneohe Gun Shop stocks them when he can get them.

HeliosRX8

Re: Law regarding mag capacity for 16 inch carbine that shoots 9mm
« Reply #18 on: June 03, 2023, 05:39:31 PM »
Ive used Brownells and Midway with no issues for magazines.

Volcano_man111

Re: Law regarding mag capacity for 16 inch carbine that shoots 9mm
« Reply #19 on: June 03, 2023, 06:43:21 PM »
Yes, Colt or Colt style 9mm AR-15 mags are good to go in Hawaii. I have several 20 and 32 rounders for my Colt 9mm AR-15.
Awesome. Thanks for sharing