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General Topics => Political Discussion => Topic started by: ren on September 18, 2023, 10:26:00 AM
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https://www.foxnews.com/politics/fetterman-blasted-by-conservatives-after-senate-drops-dress-code-stop-lowering-the-bar (https://www.foxnews.com/politics/fetterman-blasted-by-conservatives-after-senate-drops-dress-code-stop-lowering-the-bar)
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anything goes nowadays
Didn't I see a story about CA shoplifting being ok (misdemeanor) up to $950?
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Chicago mayor is entertaining the thought of taxpayer funded supermarkets like how they have in places like North Korea.
This is because all the retailers are hightailing the f*ck out of Chicago.
In the case of congress they lower the bar for one f*ckn guy.
In Chicago they lower the bar for the criminals. Since they no longer have any retail outlets to steal from, they can now steal from outlets subsidized by their own peers.
Way to go Chicago mayor and Fetterman. You guys are the new leadership standard of the future.
God Help Us.
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Chicago mayor is entertaining the thought of taxpayer funded supermarkets like how they have in places like North Korea.
This is because all the retailers are hightailing the f*ck out of Chicago.
In the case of congress they lower the bar for one f*ckn guy.
In Chicago they lower the bar for the criminals. Since they no longer have any retail outlets to steal from, they can now steal from outlets subsidized by their own peers.
Way to go Chicago mayor and Fetterman. You guys are the new leadership standard of the future.
God Help Us.
All those who support socailism should be happy and move there.
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I don't see anything wrong with something less formal than a suit and tie but have some standards at least. A nice collared aloha shirt for example.
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I don't see anything wrong with something less formal than a suit and tie but have some standards at least. A nice collared aloha shirt for example.
You know they secretly told the Sergeant at Arms not to enforce the rule rather than change the rule officially because it was to accommodate one specific democrat: John Fetterman.
He's been circumventing the dress code by casting his votes from the Democrat cloak room just off the floor of the Senate.
If you can't at the very least dress appropriately for your job, then maybe you need a different job? You think the employees working at McDonald's or Burger King don't want to wear shorts and their favorite t-shirts? And they make a hell of a lot less than $174,000 per year.
He's not some political genius whose ideas will save the world if only we can accommodate his preferred manner of dress. He's a brain damaged individual who got elected because the debate was scheduled far enough into the year that most voters had not seen how damaged he really is before they early-voted.
All he is to the Dem party is a loyal member of the Senate who will vote as they tell him. They are willing to ignore centuries of decorum for this one person's vote.
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You know they secretly told the Sergeant at Arms not to enforce the rule rather than change the rule officially because it was to accommodate one specific democrat: John Fetterman.
He's been circumventing the dress code by casting his votes from the Democrat cloak room just off the floor of the Senate.
If you can't at the very least dress appropriately for your job, then maybe you need a different job? You think the employees working at McDonald's or Burger King don't want to wear shorts and their favorite t-shirts? And they make a hell of a lot less than $174,000 per year.
He's not some political genius whose ideas will save the world if only we can accommodate his preferred manner of dress. He's a brain damaged individual who got elected because the debate was scheduled far enough into the year that most voters had not seen how damaged he really is before they early-voted.
All he is to the Dem party is a loyal member of the Senate who will vote as they tell him. They are willing to ignore centuries of decorum for this one person's vote.
My comment was more about re-evaluating what should be the dress code. I think it could be relaxed a little. Not sweat pants though.
Heck, you could even argue doing away with a coat requirement saves money on air conditioning.
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My comment was more about re-evaluating what should be the dress code. I think it could be relaxed a little. Not sweat pants though.
Heck, you could even argue doing away with a coat requirement saves money on air conditioning.
yep. they should all dress like members of the circus
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yep. they should all dress like members of the circus
Touche
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My comment was more about re-evaluating what should be the dress code. I think it could be relaxed a little. Not sweat pants though.
Heck, you could even argue doing away with a coat requirement saves money on air conditioning.
What about Winter time?
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What about Winter time?
They can wear coats if the want to, I wasn't suggesting it was mandatory that people dress a little less formal.
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They can wear coats if the want to, I wasn't suggesting it was mandatory that people dress a little less formal.
Well thank you very much.
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No structure. Just make anykine, anykine. ::) Dress codes are based on discipline and discipline is based on professionalism. And professionalism is required and expected in congress.
There's a reason for structure. And standards. Cannot just change things because one guy is a little bit "strange" and doesn't (or can't?) get with the program. Just because this hoodie guy is a good little democrat and votes the way you tell him doesn't mean you change the program for your little treasure brown noser.
Imagine if we did that in the military. Instead of a Ranger Regiment we'll have a Kumbaya Brigade.
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G-string only.
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G-string only.
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I dont discriminate, hole and heartbrat. All G.....string.
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The only dress code I want for congress
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No structure. Just make anykine, anykine. ::) Dress codes are based on discipline and discipline is based on professionalism. And professionalism is required and expected in congress.
There's a reason for structure. And standards. Cannot just change things because one guy is a little bit "strange" and doesn't (or can't?) get with the program. Just because this hoodie guy is a good little democrat and votes the way you tell him doesn't mean you change the program for your little treasure brown noser.
Imagine if we did that in the military. Instead of a Ranger Regiment we'll have a Kumbaya Brigade.
I did hear some speculation as to whether his physical disability made it hard for him to wear a suit. I don't know the extent of his injuries though. Still you would expect something nicer than sweats though.
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Respect for the institution requires that you dress as such.
https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/opinion/fetterman-dress-code-fail-begs-big-question-about-america-s-steep-decline/ar-AA1gZ6jN?ocid=msedgdhp&pc=U531&cvid=d79badaba96541e486d29bed302b05e5&ei=59
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I did hear some speculation as to whether his physical disability made it hard for him to wear a suit. I don't know the extent of his injuries though. Still you would expect something nicer than sweats though.
Steven Hawking often wore a sports coat and long pants. Just sayin....
Guy who cant think on his feet gets elected. Makes u wonder whos making his flash cards. Another yes man, IMO.
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Steven Hawking often wore a sports coat and long pants. Just sayin....
Guy who cant think on his feet gets elected. Makes u wonder whos making his flash cards. Another yes man, IMO.
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BTW, Fetterman has no "physical disability" that requires comfortable clothing. That has become his trademark, and he's milking the stroke for sympathy so he can continue dressing as he chooses.
He wore a suit when he attended freshman orientation. No limitations kept him from dressing appropriately when he needed to (the rules required it).
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I wonder if Joe Manchin wore a hoodie and shorts would Chuck Shumer allow it.
In my opinion Chuck Shumer is a puke.
No respect for the institution.
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Lack of a dress code in school is one reason kids act all tarantaran in school.
When I was going to school 1955 to 1968, girls had to wear a dress or skirt and blouse. Guys had to wear long pants and a collared top.
Teachers could also give you cracks for misbehaving. Today they cannot even talk harshly to the kids.
This is why so many young people lack respect for authority.
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I wonder if Joe Manchin wore a hoodie and shorts would Chuck Shumer allow it.
In my opinion Chuck Shumer is a puke.
No respect for the institution.
Only person who should be allowed to wear a hoodie in the WH or like offices would be BIll Bellucec. (Patriots head coach). IIRC, he wore a suit when visiting the President.
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Lack of a dress code in school is one reason kids act all tarantaran in school.
When I was going to school 1955 to 1968, girls had to wear a dress or skirt and blouse. Guys had to wear long pants and a collared top.
Teachers could also give you cracks for misbehaving. Today they cannot even talk harshly to the kids.
This is why so many young people lack respect for authority.
I remember the wooden paddle in the vice principal's office.
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Read what the Republicans would have to do before this man would wear a suit on the Senate floor. This guy is not a senator. He's a child.
https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/politics/senate-majority-whip-dick-durbin-breaks-with-schumer-on-fetterman-dress-code-change-need-to-have-standards/ar-AA1h4rlW?ocid=msedgdhp&pc=U531&cvid=49121ab5f7ca4c69a21bf240754e6443&ei=87
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Although the standard has been eased for senators, both visitors and staffers
are still obliged to comply with the traditional dress code and wear business-
appropriate clothing.
Typical Democrat elitism: Rules for thee, but none for me.
If anything, the staffers would benefit more from dressing comfortably, since they do most of the "leg work" for the Senators. All the Senators do is sit for hearings, cast a vote now and then and pose for photos when told.
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Steven Hawking often wore a sports coat and long pants. Just sayin....
Guy who cant think on his feet gets elected. Makes u wonder whos making his flash cards. Another yes man, IMO.
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I wasn't really buying that explanation but I figured better to give him the benefit of the doubt.
I have no idea whether mentally he is sharp as a tac or if he is as bad as when he tries to talk. His back story doesn't inspire any confidence though.
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I remember the wooden paddle in the vice principal's office.
I remember getting swats in front of the whole class. Third grade, California.
As for dress codes Vietnam war protests killed that one off. Kids figured out that they got their way
if they threw a fit collectively.
Democrats still do it to this day.
:wtf:
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I wasn't really buying that explanation but I figured better to give him the benefit of the doubt.
I have no idea whether mentally he is sharp as a tac or if he is as bad as when he tries to talk. His back story doesn't inspire any confidence though.
Hawking reference was a joke.
This senator had a stroke or something that makes it challenging to answer questions on the spot or think on his toes. He can understand what hes being asked and can make a coherant response, but it might take time to accomplish. This was mention when he was asked why he doesnt take part in debates often.
So of all the options for a leader, this was their best. Its not like he has a long history of doing good things in the private sector that this overlooks his mental state.
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For the good of the people, his state, and this country, HE SHOULD QUIT.
I may sound cruel but at the very least, he should offer to do so and if his constituents still want him to serve then so be it.
But I'm very sorry that he suffered his unfortunate stroke.
https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/politics/fetterman-holds-up-his-phone-shows-app-he-has-to-use-to-fully-process-language/ar-AA1h6CD6?ocid=msedgdhp&pc=U531&cvid=7f277b4d560d45fe8521ef4bb94f98f5&ei=24
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For the good of the people, his state, and this country, HE SHOULD QUIT.
I may sound cruel but at the very least, he should offer to do so and if his constituents still want him to serve then so be it.
But I'm very sorry that he suffered his unfortunate stroke.
https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/politics/fetterman-holds-up-his-phone-shows-app-he-has-to-use-to-fully-process-language/ar-AA1h6CD6?ocid=msedgdhp&pc=U531&cvid=7f277b4d560d45fe8521ef4bb94f98f5&ei=24
According to the news, there was a mass search on Google for "How do I change my vote" after the debate he was in. People who voted early/by mail changed their minds after seeing how impaired he actually is -- in contrast with how the media portrayed him.
Given his post-stroke impairment and the post-election depression, and now the refusal to follow the rules of the job he worked so hard to get, I'd be surprised if he could be elected today.
He doesn't act like the type of person who understands how lucky he is -- not even trying to earn the honor he was handed by the voters.
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For the good of the people, his state, and this country, HE SHOULD QUIT.
I may sound cruel but at the very least, he should offer to do so and if his constituents still want him to serve then so be it.
But I'm very sorry that he suffered his unfortunate stroke.
https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/politics/fetterman-holds-up-his-phone-shows-app-he-has-to-use-to-fully-process-language/ar-AA1h6CD6?ocid=msedgdhp&pc=U531&cvid=7f277b4d560d45fe8521ef4bb94f98f5&ei=24
He should have never been elected, but his voters are dumb so...
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He should have never been elected, but his voters are dumb so...
His voters were lied to, and were it not for early voting, i think the results would have been -- not him.
More things at work here than only dumb voters ... but that's probably why the other things were effective, too.
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if Trump did away with the dress code...
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I think all the Republican Senators need to show up in Pro-Life, Pro-Gun and Pro-Trump attire.
See how many Democrats get triggered.
:geekdanc: :thumbsup: :popcorn:
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If you don't believe me when I post that Fetterman has no physical disabilities requiring comfortable clothing,
maybe you can believe Fetterman ...
... and Fetterman's doctor.
This is from October, just before his election.
U.S. Senate candidate Fetterman releases
doctor letter saying he is OK
Democratic U.S. Senate candidate John Fetterman of Pennsylvania released a
doctor's letter on Wednesday that said he was recovering well from a stroke and
has no work restrictions.
Fetterman, the Pennsylvania lieutenant governor who faces Republican celebrity
doctor Mehmet Oz in November's election, has gradually returned to the campaign
trail in recent months after suffering a stroke in May that he said nearly killed him.
"Overall, the Lt. Governor is recovering well from his stroke and his health has
continued to improve," Dr. Clifford Chen wrote in a letter released by Fetterman's
campaign.
Chen said Fetterman "continues to exhibit symptoms of an auditory processing
disorder which can come across as a hearing difficulty," Chen said, adding that
the candidate's communication has improved significantly.
Oz, a television doctor endorsed by former President Donald Trump, has raised
questions about Fetterman's health as the Nov. 8 election approached. The closely
watched Pennsylvania race will help determine whether President Joe Biden's
Democrats hold onto their razor-thin margin in the U.S. Senate.
Fetterman has attended speech therapy since the stroke, takes medication to prevent
future strokes and can walk four to five miles without difficulty, Chen wrote.
Chen said in the letter that Fetterman is committed to maintaining good fitness and
health practices. "He has no work restrictions and can work full duty in public office,"
the doctor said.
https://www.reuters.com/world/us/us-senate-candidate-fetterman-releases-doctor-letter-saying-he-is-ok-2022-10-19/
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And this guy was choking back tears and sobs as he tells of his difficulties administering his duties as a senator.
Cry me a river. :wave: Go on. Knock yourself out, senator. :wave:
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If you don't believe me when I post that Fetterman has no physical disabilities requiring comfortable clothing,
maybe you can believe Fetterman ...
... and Fetterman's doctor.
This is from October, just before his election.
U.S. Senate candidate Fetterman releases
doctor letter saying he is OKhttps://www.reuters.com/world/us/us-senate-candidate-fetterman-releases-doctor-letter-saying-he-is-ok-2022-10-19/
I believe u.
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I believe u.
Thanks for chiming in, but I was addressing at least one forum member who always gives the other side the benefit of the doubt.
I'm blocking him again, or else i would have quoted his post where he said,
"I wasn't really buying that explanation but I figured better to give him the benefit of the doubt."
it takes no time to find sources that answer these questions, like "does Fetterman have any physical disability," but the laziness in them waits to be spoon-fed by the rest of us. Too bad they form (and post) opinions with easily-searched holes in their knowledge. Just makes for never ending arguing.
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He should have never been elected, but his voters are dumb so...
He only won because he had such a crappy opponent. It wasn't that people loved him, they just hated Dr. Oz that much
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He only won because he had such a crappy opponent. It wasn't that people loved him, they just hated Dr. Oz that much
Exactlly, hate =feelings. Feelings >logic.
OZ is a doctor and was able to build himself capitalizing on being on Oprahs show. Not a career politician.
John is a career politician with a mental disability. He should retire.
Im no fan of Oz due to his anti 2a stance.
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Exactlly, hate =feelings. Feelings >logic.
OZ is a doctor and was able to build himself capitalizing on being on Oprahs show. Not a career politician.
John is a career politician with a mental disability. He should retire.
Im no fan of Oz due to his anti 2a stance.
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You don't have to be a fan of either candidate to see that Fetterman was one of 2 key races for the Dems controlling the Senate. They have a 51-49 majority. Had he not been elected, it would have been 50-50, essentially allowing VP Hyena to break any ties -- so basically still Dem controlled.
Control of congress is a chess match -- power is based on numbers. The Dems are playing that game while the Republicans appear to be playing shuffleboard.
:wacko:
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Sad to think that it has to take two level-headed senators that take their job seriously to upsurp the stupidness of Shumer and his willingness to cater to his "yes man" Fetterman.
Fetterman, just quit already.
https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/politics/fetterman-will-no-longer-be-able-to-wear-shorts-and-a-hoodie-in-the-senate/ar-AA1hmHdL?ocid=msedgdhp&pc=U531&cvid=dfa9d4a8462c46089e28d0c3bf04cf6e&ei=20
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Sad to think that it has to take two level-headed senators that take their job seriously to upsurp the stupidness of Shumer and his willingness to cater to his "yes man" Fetterman.
Fetterman, just quit already.
https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/politics/fetterman-will-no-longer-be-able-to-wear-shorts-and-a-hoodie-in-the-senate/ar-AA1hmHdL?ocid=msedgdhp&pc=U531&cvid=dfa9d4a8462c46089e28d0c3bf04cf6e&ei=20
This was Fetterman's response on X:
(https://i.imgur.com/OMRtbj4.jpg)
Such a classless individual. What does a photo of an actor have to do with the US Senate?
Next, they need to formally require all votes be cast on the Senate floor to prevent him from voting in the Democrat cloak room.
#ClosetSenator