Post by: macsak on February 14, 2024, 04:46:18 PM
Post by: hvybarrels on February 14, 2024, 04:49:07 PM
Post by: randay on February 14, 2024, 05:07:36 PM
Post by: hvybarrels on February 14, 2024, 05:14:01 PM
Post by: oldfart on February 14, 2024, 05:20:29 PM
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I never thought of moving to another state before.
Until today.
Post by: QUIETShooter on February 14, 2024, 05:26:05 PM
Honolulu's Finest will protect us.
When they come around to it. I guess. Maybe.
Post by: macsak on February 14, 2024, 05:38:46 PM
2 members excused (at least one would've been a no)
here's the testimony (will likely be added to later with more late testimony)
https://www.capitol.hawaii.gov/sessions/session2024/Testimony/SB3196_TESTIMONY_PSM_02-14-24_.PDF
legislature does not provide counts
but an impressive amount of female representation...
thats to be expected. dudes not gonna kill his own bill. we need details like amendments, vote counts and testimony numbers.
Post by: ren on February 14, 2024, 05:48:45 PM
Post by: groveler on February 14, 2024, 06:16:51 PM
(https://i.postimg.cc/05LMhF4s/SMH.gif) (https://postimages.org/)You don't seriously think Hawaii cops or their bosses are good people?
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I never thought of moving to another state before.
Until today.
>:D
Post by: groveler on February 14, 2024, 06:20:15 PM
passed 3-0Heather Kimball is my wife's county council critter.
2 members excused (at least one would've been a no)
here's the testimony (will likely be added to later with more late testimony)
https://www.capitol.hawaii.gov/sessions/session2024/Testimony/SB3196_TESTIMONY_PSM_02-14-24_.PDF
legislature does not provide counts
but an impressive amount of female representation...
Heater is an idiot.
Post by: macsak on February 14, 2024, 08:00:57 PM
this was state senate
oh, that's right, you pretend not to live here anyways...
Heather Kimball is my wife's county council critter.
Heater is an idiot.
Post by: zippz on February 14, 2024, 08:43:53 PM
Heather Kimball is my wife's county council critter.
Heater is an idiot.
I actually met with her prior to the HI County sensitive places hearings. She said it's my policy to not meet with organizations like yours and the only reason I'm meeting with you is because my staff setup the meeting. She was pretty hostile, but the staff were nice and interested in what I had to say. I feel sorry for her staff having to work for her.
In the last council hearing for bill, she basically took over the county council and restored all the things I was able to take out of it, and tried to add even more restrictions. She had their county counsel talk about the legal defenses for the restrictions. It was almost like she was mind-controlling the attorney.
Post by: ren on February 14, 2024, 08:56:19 PM
https://www.civilbeat.org/2020/06/report-on-bullying-by-state-senator-surfaces-as-tension-mounts-over-hawaii-recovery-plan/
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Post by: eyeeatingfish on February 14, 2024, 10:38:05 PM
(https://i.postimg.cc/05LMhF4s/SMH.gif) (https://postimages.org/)
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I never thought of moving to another state before.
Until today.
Really? Seems par the course...
Post by: aletheuo137 on February 15, 2024, 07:12:28 AM
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Post by: rpoL98 on February 15, 2024, 03:55:01 PM
Really? Seems par the course...no, it's getting worse.
might be better that it passed out of committee, unamended. it's so draconian, might make it too drastic for moderates.
and it's when we start getting the amendments, that our 2A rights get whittled away, one cut at a time, death by a thousand cuts.
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(https://i.postimg.cc/05LMhF4s/SMH.gif) (https://postimages.org/)https://www.gunsandammo.com/editorial/best-states-for-gun-owners-2022/463592 (https://www.gunsandammo.com/editorial/best-states-for-gun-owners-2022/463592)
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I never thought of moving to another state before.
Until today.
Post by: macsak on February 15, 2024, 07:43:08 PM
You don't seriously think Hawaii cops or their bosses are good people?
>:D
Post by: ren on February 15, 2024, 08:54:29 PM
This is THE wake up call to all the gun shops that also said they cannot. This bill will take a big chunk out of your business.
Post by: changemyoil66 on February 16, 2024, 01:23:23 PM
Disappointed in some of my shooting friends / peers who said they cannot submit testimony. I know some are lurking here. This is THE TIME to step up! There may never be a next time ever in your life. Everything in your safe will turn to worthless paper weights.
This is THE wake up call to all the gun shops that also said they cannot. This bill will take a big chunk out of your business.
I only read half the test and Young Guns, Danger Close (in person), SEC, Peter Abraham submitted. I've seen IG post about it from HGS, Firearms International, Kaneohe Gun Shop. IDK if these submitted because sometimes, they submit under their names and not as the store. Again, I only read half the test.
Post by: tim808 on February 16, 2024, 05:20:23 PM
WA - I haven’t done any research but it seems that firearms you owned were grandfathered….you can’t get more. I don’t know if they have to be converted to a perm magazine
I’m guessing we will be more like CA…I heard that Hawaii generally follows CA. So like ar pistols, perm mag for ar rifles…I assume 10 rd maximum
Post by: changemyoil66 on February 16, 2024, 05:31:44 PM
CA allowed "assault rifles", but they either had to be registered or go "featureless". Fast forward a few years and they changed the law.
Post by: groveler on February 16, 2024, 05:55:24 PM
focusI was referring to her comments on the senate bill.
this was state senate
oh, that's right, you pretend not to live here anyways...
She is a Hawaii county Council member and a rabid anti-gun type.
Her comments to her fellow elected Democrats will carry more weight than yours.
That is why I commented about her.
The bill SUX, but my comments on the bill won't count.
Post by: randay on February 17, 2024, 04:41:13 AM
my comments on the bill won't count.
Is it because you are a coward?
You happily share your comments with us, but you wont lift a finger when it comes to helping any cause.
Dont bother answering, we already know your answer.