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Title: C&C of Honolulu wants to sue gun manufactorers
Post by: changemyoil66 on April 12, 2024, 09:42:05 AM
https://hnldoc.ehawaii.gov/hnldoc/measure/2918


Just like how the state pased a law, city trying to pass an ordinance.

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Title: Re: C&C of Honolulu wants to sue gun manufactorers
Post by: changemyoil66 on April 12, 2024, 09:44:27 AM
Specifically Glock cause they made the gun in a way a glock witch can attach.

I hope glock cancels hpds contract.

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Title: Re: C&C of Honolulu wants to sue gun manufactorers
Post by: macsak on April 12, 2024, 09:48:09 AM
glock witches are way more scary than regular witches...

Specifically Glock cause they made the gun in a way a glock witch can attach.

I hope glock cancels hpds contract.

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Title: Re: C&C of Honolulu wants to sue gun manufactorers
Post by: ren on April 12, 2024, 10:16:50 AM
The real reason is about money not about "gun safety". Hawaii has a big government to feed as the tax base is shrinking.
Title: Re: C&C of Honolulu wants to sue gun manufactorers
Post by: oldfart on April 12, 2024, 10:30:39 AM
Lawsuit against the company that manufacturers their own service pistol....smart
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Title: Re: C&C of Honolulu wants to sue gun manufactorers
Post by: Flapp_Jackson on April 12, 2024, 11:18:11 AM
This is what the Kamala Harris-lead anti-gun group Office of Gun Violence Prevention is doing.  They are getting the states to try and enact the proposals that have died in the US Congress.

Chicago filed this same lawsuit last month.  If the anti-gunners can get even 10-15 cities and states to file the same lawsuit, they hope the litigation alone will drive the company out of existence.

What this issue actually does is shine a spotlight on their tactics.  They can't stop criminals from making, selling, installing and using banned gun parts, so instead they go after the gun makers. 

Even if Glock spent the time, money and resources redesigning and retooling to prevent today's switches from being used, it is foreseeable the new design will be circumvented eventually.

In Vegas, the only way the slot machine industry was able to stop cheaters was to hope the police could arrest them -- i.e. stop the criminal.  Redesigning the machines just created another challenge for the cheaters, who seemed perfectly happy to do whatever it took to counteract new designs and technologies.
Title: Re: C&C of Honolulu wants to sue gun manufactorers
Post by: zippz on April 12, 2024, 11:56:22 AM
Hmmm... I wonder what attorneys they are referring to retaining ...
Title: Re: C&C of Honolulu wants to sue gun manufactorers
Post by: changemyoil66 on April 12, 2024, 01:18:32 PM
This is very dangerous for everyone.  C&C wants to sue GLock because their guns can fit a Glock switch.  Even though, Glock doesn't make them, and said switches are classified as a "Machine Gun", which makes it illegal for almost everyone who owns one.

That's like suing Toyota because NOS can be installed and it kills someone due to the car going too fast.

HI passed this as state law last year, and now we're seeing why.  Even though this violates the federal protections that gun manufacturer's have.  The corporate counsel that C&C has is a moron, so I expect a much better lawyer to work "pro bono" (paid for by MDA/ET, etc...).

Glock has no choice but to fight this all the way becuase if they settle, then it's open season when CA, NY, and like counties/states do the same.  THen IHope they counter sue and get at least six figures.  Then they break all contracts selling Glocks to any LEO agency in HI.

This is why I like Larue Tactical, basically "if it's not legal for your voters to own, then we won't sell it to your LEO agency", is their policy.
Title: Re: C&C of Honolulu wants to sue gun manufactorers
Post by: eyeeatingfish on April 13, 2024, 10:58:22 PM
I really wish Hawaii could at least be more original than to simply copy everything California tries...
Title: Re: C&C of Honolulu wants to sue gun manufactorers
Post by: QUIETShooter on April 14, 2024, 09:13:31 AM
There is no originality in a coalition of banana republiks. ;)
Title: Re: C&C of Honolulu wants to sue gun manufactorers
Post by: changemyoil66 on April 14, 2024, 06:07:21 PM
I really wish Hawaii could at least be more original than to simply copy everything California tries...
Swwwoooooossshhhhh. CA, cough cough. The same org's who agree with u about red flag laws.

Guess whos funding this lawsuit.

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Title: Re: C&C of Honolulu wants to sue gun manufactorers
Post by: macsak on April 14, 2024, 07:09:49 PM
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pPysSA6wTzA
Title: Re: C&C of Honolulu wants to sue gun manufactorers
Post by: oldfart on April 15, 2024, 12:20:41 AM
As always, my own tax dollars are being used against me.
That is what upsets me the most.
Title: Re: C&C of Honolulu wants to sue gun manufactorers
Post by: oldfart on April 15, 2024, 01:34:42 AM
https://hnldoc.ehawaii.gov/hnldoc/measure/2918


Just like how the state pased a law, city trying to pass an ordinance.

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I submitted testimony but the screen just locked up and I dunno if it took it. ??? :( :shake:
Title: Re: C&C of Honolulu wants to sue gun manufactorers
Post by: changemyoil66 on April 15, 2024, 09:15:55 AM
It's nice how the C&C counts the testimonies and puts it online. So we don't have to do it.
Title: Re: C&C of Honolulu wants to sue gun manufactorers
Post by: hvybarrels on April 15, 2024, 09:37:22 AM
Of course this is from the same city that sued oil companies because they caused climate change, completely missing the point that the petrodollars that they want to get paid in would become worthless because of their actions.
Title: Re: C&C of Honolulu wants to sue gun manufactorers
Post by: oldfart on April 15, 2024, 09:47:02 AM
I wrote a great testimony at 1am and it apparently got lost when I hit the submit button.
 :(
Title: Re: C&C of Honolulu wants to sue gun manufactorers
Post by: zippz on April 16, 2024, 11:56:41 PM
As always, my own tax dollars are being used against me.
That is what upsets me the most.

Rest assured, your tax dollars aren't being used.

You can thank Everytown and Giffords for that.
Title: Re: C&C of Honolulu wants to sue gun manufactorers
Post by: oldfart on April 17, 2024, 02:34:40 AM
Rest assured, your tax dollars aren't being used.
You can thank Everytown and Giffords for that.
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Title: Re: C&C of Honolulu wants to sue gun manufactUrers
Post by: ren on April 17, 2024, 08:20:03 AM
Can we sue politicians for a terrible job?
Title: Re: C&C of Honolulu wants to sue gun manufactUrers
Post by: Flapp_Jackson on April 17, 2024, 09:17:30 AM
Can we sue politicians for a terrible job?

Qualified immunity.

They aren't qualified, so they need immunity.
Title: Re: C&C of Honolulu wants to sue gun manufactorers
Post by: changemyoil66 on April 17, 2024, 10:01:26 AM
Rest assured, your tax dollars aren't being used.

You can thank Everytown and Giffords for that.

I'm sure the org's receive some kind of federal funds. Which is our tax dollars.

Plus at some point, the AG"s office will take time to review things.  Time = money, so our state tax dollars are being indirectly used.

The judge and any court staff involved are paid with our tax dollars.  This should never even go to trial, so this use of their time is wasted.
Title: Re: C&C of Honolulu wants to sue gun manufactorers
Post by: changemyoil66 on April 17, 2024, 11:48:41 AM
https://www.honolulucitycouncil.org/meetings

If antyone wants to watch. We're toward the end. HIFICO is there and so is Logan.
Title: Re: C&C of Honolulu wants to sue gun manufactorers
Post by: changemyoil66 on April 17, 2024, 05:56:18 PM
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uBohQWnEY2E

Fast forward to the last 5 mins or so. HIFICO was there for hours and had to leave because they pushed this bill to the very end.
Title: Re: C&C of Honolulu wants to sue gun manufactorers
Post by: changemyoil66 on April 21, 2024, 02:17:43 PM
HONOLULU – Mayor Rick Blangiardi issued the following statement on Friday directing Corporation Counsel to not proceed with a lawsuit against gunmaker Glock:     
 
“The City Council recently authorized the Department of the Corporation Counsel to initiate litigation against a firearms industry member under the Firearm Industry Responsibility Act. I have instructed the Department of the Corporation Counsel to not move forward with this litigation unless and until a court rules the statute to be constitutional. We are aware that there is currently a federal lawsuit pending about this very issue. The City is not moving ahead unless a court rules the statute to be constitutional.”

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Title: Re: C&C of Honolulu wants to sue gun manufactorers
Post by: eyeeatingfish on April 22, 2024, 09:53:46 PM
Swwwoooooossshhhhh. CA, cough cough. The same org's who agree with u about red flag laws.

Guess whos funding this lawsuit.

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