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Title: Sandy Hook hoax
Post by: abakja1 on December 31, 2012, 04:55:10 AM
So ive been watching more and more YouTube videos of how "suppossed parents" and witnesses and victims are really actors and have been on CNN and other news reports.  Also, that Sandy Hook has been used in the past for crisis drills for the same mass murder scenario.  The forensic doctor interview was a joke, and the whole event was a staged crisis event to get the publics reaction and the government to bring up the the legal arms issue.  Even Victoria Soto a suppossed teacher who died sacrificing herself to protect her students had a facebook page claiming here dead with a RIP tribute to her before the Sandy Hook event.  Her FB site has been since deactivated.

How will Obama and the US government answer to the validity of Sandy Hook and still pursue getting weapons banned or restricted?  Its a disgrace our govt for the people and by the people stooped so low to bring up an argument to restrict and/or ban our 2nd amendment right.
Title: Re: Sandy Hook hoax
Post by: mongoose on December 31, 2012, 05:32:04 AM
 ??? ???
Title: Re: Sandy Hook hoax
Post by: 1shot on December 31, 2012, 08:02:08 AM
One thing with the government is that they can get away with whatever. I think if it was all fake people would find out eventually somehow someway. The government wouldn't take that chance. Even if they planned it, they would just have someone actually do the shooting for real instead of faking it.
Title: Re: Sandy Hook hoax
Post by: SpeedTek on December 31, 2012, 08:43:37 AM
http://beforeitsnews.com/alternative/2012/12/absolute-proof-sandy-hook-was-staged-2525578.html (http://beforeitsnews.com/alternative/2012/12/absolute-proof-sandy-hook-was-staged-2525578.html)

http://beforeitsnews.com/alternative/2012/12/sandy-hook-conspiracy-the-actors-lies-fraud-hoax-scam-false-flag-2525290.html (http://beforeitsnews.com/alternative/2012/12/sandy-hook-conspiracy-the-actors-lies-fraud-hoax-scam-false-flag-2525290.html)

http://beforeitsnews.com/alternative/2012/12/emilie-parker-found-2-days-after-shooting-2525288.html. (http://beforeitsnews.com/alternative/2012/12/emilie-parker-found-2-days-after-shooting-2525288.html.) This is spooky!
Title: Re: Sandy Hook hoax
Post by: abakja1 on December 31, 2012, 09:04:18 AM
One thing with the government is that they can get away with whatever. I think if it was all fake people would find out eventually somehow someway. The government wouldn't take that chance. Even if they planned it, they would just have someone actually do the shooting for real instead of faking it.

That would be way too extreme to "actually" murder children.  As was posted in this thread, one of the children presumed killed in the tragedy is actually.still alive and a picture was taken with Obama after the incident.   In some of the videos in YouTube, ambulances and fire trucks were parked at the fire department up the road from Sandy Hook school and not in front of the school.  Why?  So that when media shots from helicopters are taken, it looks like they are at the scene, when they are actually up the road from the school.  In fact som many cars are blocking the access from the school, ambulances and emergency vehicles coukdnt get to the school anyways. 

Finally, has anyone verify any bodies?  Video show covered bodies in white on the news, but that is suspect and the interview with the medical examiner was a total joke.  Non-professional and he didnt seem to know what he was talking about and often giggling and laughing through the interview.  this scandal is tragic and embarrassing to the US for all the world to see.
 Again FALSE FLAG!!
Sandy Hook Shooting False Flag- Bad Actors Used to Take Away the Second Amendment (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yNODtxeuaug#)
Sandy Hook Official Story DEBUNKED (All evidence I compiled) (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_EEKqcRELz4#)
Title: Re: Sandy Hook hoax
Post by: SpeedTek on December 31, 2012, 10:48:32 AM
Maybe it was a ploy by the NRA to raise gun sales? <<< overheard at sports authority by 2 lolos talking.
Title: Re: Sandy Hook hoax
Post by: roadster99 on December 31, 2012, 12:29:30 PM
In light of the opinions arising in regard to "false flag" events of any nature, here is an opinion (http://www.lewrockwell.com/roberts/roberts384.html) concerning our personal liberties being stripped away by both the left and the right by use of agenda over truth.  It was posted on LewRockwell.com.  Aside from what your thoughts of whether or not our government is capable of committing a false flag event are, it's a great article pertaining to how government wastes no time jumping on the agenda bandwagon every time an event such as Sandy Hook is committed and slowly, but surely, strips away our rights as individuals.  It's worth the 5 minutes, at least in my own personal opinion.  Links to references are given throughout the article as well.
Title: Re: Sandy Hook hoax
Post by: SpeedTek on December 31, 2012, 12:38:40 PM
http://knowthelies.wordpress.com/2012/12/31/absolute-proof-sandy-hook-was-staged-emily-parker-found-alive-and-well-2-days-after-her-reported-death/ (http://knowthelies.wordpress.com/2012/12/31/absolute-proof-sandy-hook-was-staged-emily-parker-found-alive-and-well-2-days-after-her-reported-death/)
Title: Re: Sandy Hook hoax
Post by: Izanagi on December 31, 2012, 02:26:39 PM
So do you guys really think it's a hoax?  I'm trying not to believe it but the evidence provided by those who believe it is a hoax is pretty convincing.  However i haven't researched it much since i'm at work and could just be a victim of propaganda right now.
Title: Re: Sandy Hook hoax
Post by: SpeedTek on December 31, 2012, 07:12:19 PM
Emilie Parker (5/12/06) is listed on the official victim list so this confirms that this girl should be dead, right? well look at this interesting photo that has been put together. The top photo was released by the family to the MSM and the below photo that was so released by the media; of Obama supporting the families and children of the Sandy Hook school (After the Tragedy). But this photo raises some new questions!
Title: Re: Sandy Hook hoax
Post by: SpeedTek on December 31, 2012, 07:21:59 PM
http://usahitman.com/mritshv/ (http://usahitman.com/mritshv/)

Best coverage of a hoax
Title: Re: Sandy Hook hoax
Post by: Funtimes on December 31, 2012, 08:33:14 PM
You guys must hear shit from aliens.  Seriously.   Your tin foil hatness is a waste of energy, just stop lol.  ::)

That is all we need now is gun owners trying to say that this was a staged hoax.  It makes you sound ignorant, unaware, and really just uneducated.  For onlookers, it just makes them want to work against you even more.
Title: Re: Sandy Hook hoax
Post by: ren on December 31, 2012, 08:41:48 PM
What the fuck did you guys do, wear double layers of aluminum? Step away from the computer and hit the range. Practice shooting. Vet your sources. Why don't you cite the National Enquirer as well?
Title: Re: Sandy Hook hoax
Post by: Cougar8045 on December 31, 2012, 08:51:30 PM
Gents, let's get hold of ourselves, here.  According to the "hoax", if that's what you choose to believe, 20 kids need to play dead.  Let's say, conservatively, that each kid has both sets of grandparents, three sets of aunts/uncles with two kids apiece, and of course mom and dad.  That's 18 extended family members who are first cousins or closer to each pretend victim.  For the moment we'll discount all the adult victims and the friends, friends of friends, and so on.  That's 360 people who are intimately acquainted with each child, 360 people who need to either be in on the hoax or lied to.  That's an awful lot of people already.  Now we'll suppose that each minor victim has 10 friends.  Shit, now we're up to 3,600 people who need to either be convincingly lied to by people they know very well, or who are in on the hoax.  That's an ass-ton of people who are in the secret of the second gunman on the grassy knoll, and we haven't even counted all the police officers, faculty members, morgue staff, hell, I don't know who else who would have first-hand knowledge of what happened. 

Do we really believe that 3,000 people could be lied to/bought off/whatever without a single one of them saying, "They're saying my best friend Johnny got shooted at the school, but I seen him get in a black hellercopper and fly away!"
Title: Re: Sandy Hook hoax
Post by: SpeedTek on December 31, 2012, 09:08:48 PM
I believe part of it is fabricated.

There is more misinformation than anything about this. Stuff is coming out slowly.

Tht MSM will never tell us the truth.

And i dont trust Obama for sh*t.
Title: Re: Sandy Hook hoax
Post by: ren on December 31, 2012, 09:13:05 PM
I believe part of it is fabricated.
There is more misinformation than anything about this. Stuff is coming out slowly.
Tht MSM will never tell us the truth.
And i dont trust Obama for sh*t.

What is the "MSM"?
Did you pass the mental health check? seriously, are you on meds?
Title: Re: Sandy Hook hoax
Post by: Heavies on December 31, 2012, 09:29:50 PM
I really dont think this is where we need to be right now. We need to be focused on protecting our RIGHTS.

Title: Re: Sandy Hook hoax
Post by: Cougar8045 on December 31, 2012, 09:32:24 PM
I believe part of it is fabricated.

There is more misinformation than anything about this. Stuff is coming out slowly.

Tht MSM will never tell us the truth.

And i dont trust Obama for sh*t.
Certainly there are unanswered questions about what happened, but the whole false-flag operation is pretty far out there.  My biggest question is whether the AR was found in the trunk or was it used in the school?  There were two separate reports that the AR was recovered from Lanza's trunk, and then the ME says a rifle was used and that's the end of the story.  As I've said before, it's a " :wtf:" moment, but it doesn't mean the whole thing was staged for Obama's nefarious purposes.  That guy is bad enough without turning him into a Dr. Evil super genius (and making ourselves look like paranoid lunatics in the process.)
Title: Re: Sandy Hook hoax
Post by: Funtimes on December 31, 2012, 10:41:29 PM
Certainly there are unanswered questions about what happened, but the whole false-flag operation is pretty far out there.  My biggest question is whether the AR was found in the trunk or was it used in the school?  There were two separate reports that the AR was recovered from Lanza's trunk, and then the ME says a rifle was used and that's the end of the story.  As I've said before, it's a " :wtf:" moment, but it doesn't mean the whole thing was staged for Obama's nefarious purposes.  That guy is bad enough without turning him into a Dr. Evil super genius (and making ourselves look like paranoid lunatics in the process.)

It was *not* an AR-15 in the Trunk.  Watch the video.  Unless the AR has a side charging handle.... and tosses out a 1/2 inch shell.
Police Find Long Gun In Trunk Of Car In Sandy Hook Parking Lot: Newtown Connecticut School Shooting (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wLrxSgkqJQc#ws)


Be careful though, this is probably the MSM way of tricking us.  It might not even by the CT shooting!!!!!  :shake:
Title: Re: Sandy Hook hoax
Post by: Cougar8045 on December 31, 2012, 10:53:53 PM
It was *not* an AR-15 in the Trunk.  Watch the video.  Unless the AR has a side charging handle.... and tosses out a 1/2 inch shell.
Be careful though, this is probably the MSM way of tricking us.  It might not even by the CT shooting!!!!!  :shake:
No argument here, I saw the same thing.  My question is, why were two separate statements made to the press on two separate occasions that the AR was not used, and then the ME says it was, and that's the end of the story.  I'd like to know if the ME is correct or not, and if he is, why was it reported to the media *twice* that the AR was not used?  I'm not buying the false flag bullshit, but why were so many diametrically opposed statements released to the press?
Title: Re: Sandy Hook hoax
Post by: Funtimes on January 01, 2013, 12:04:49 AM
No argument here, I saw the same thing.  My question is, why were two separate statements made to the press on two separate occasions that the AR was not used, and then the ME says it was, and that's the end of the story.  I'd like to know if the ME is correct or not, and if he is, why was it reported to the media *twice* that the AR was not used?  I'm not buying the false flag bullshit, but why were so many diametrically opposed statements released to the press?

The only report I really saw was some crap video from the 19th.  The overwhelming reports were that it was a bushmaster AR-15 recovered next to his body.   Rifle wounds do not look like handgun wounds, so I am pretty certain the ME woudl be able to tell.
Title: Re: Sandy Hook hoax
Post by: SpeedTek on January 01, 2013, 12:10:10 AM
The videos of the ME is a joke. Why is he babbling all kinds of crap?

http://beforeitsnews.com/alternative/2012/12/sandy-hook-hoax-medical-examiner-wayne-carver-2521848.html (http://beforeitsnews.com/alternative/2012/12/sandy-hook-hoax-medical-examiner-wayne-carver-2521848.html)
Title: Re: Sandy Hook hoax
Post by: SpeedTek on January 01, 2013, 12:31:42 AM
What is the "MSM"?
Did you pass the mental health check? seriously, are you on meds?

Main Stream Media

Obviously you have anger issues.
Title: Re: Sandy Hook hoax
Post by: Hunter1007 on January 01, 2013, 12:35:36 AM
with so much scrutiny from this investigation and "the full weight of the president's power" supposedly behind this whole situation that we do not hear any definitive conclusion? all we hear is that the investigation is on going. if memory serves me well the Arizona shooting was pretty clear cut and all the facts were out to the press rather quickly. furthermore if the bushmaster was really found in the school next to lanzas body why is there no report of the shotgun in the car? it's just not adding up. they can't say nothing was found in the car cause there is video
Title: Re: Sandy Hook hoax
Post by: ren on January 01, 2013, 01:12:05 AM
Main Stream Media

Obviously you have anger issues.
Nope, like I said I can't stand basement dwelling, panic mongers like yourself.
Title: Re: Sandy Hook hoax
Post by: Funtimes on January 01, 2013, 07:58:09 AM
with so much scrutiny from this investigation and "the full weight of the president's power" supposedly behind this whole situation that we do not hear any definitive conclusion? all we hear is that the investigation is on going. if memory serves me well the Arizona shooting was pretty clear cut and all the facts were out to the press rather quickly. furthermore if the bushmaster was really found in the school next to lanzas body why is there no report of the shotgun in the car? it's just not adding up. they can't say nothing was found in the car cause there is video

There are plenty of reports that talk about the "shotgun"/ "Fourth Gun"  it's just because it wasn't used in the crime that it really isn't that big of deal.  Also, what's going to sell - "assault rifle" or "hunter's gun" lol
 
Title: Re: Sandy Hook hoax
Post by: GPAGAP on January 01, 2013, 08:30:48 AM
This thread is full retard status.

Especially this bit about Emilie Parker going around-

Emilie Parker (5/12/06) is listed on the official victim list so this confirms that this girl should be dead, right? well look at this interesting photo that has been put together. The top photo was released by the family to the MSM and the below photo that was so released by the media; of Obama supporting the families and children of the Sandy Hook school (After the Tragedy). But this photo raises some new questions!

I guess we've never seen children that wear hand me down clothing and look like an older sibling...
Emilie Parker obviously had 2 younger sisters in the top photo. It should be apparent that the girl posing with the Pres is Emilie's sister, wearing Emilie's dress. How is this unthinkable?

How many of the folks who are crying "HOAX!" also believe the holocaust didn't happen? ::)
Title: Re: Sandy Hook hoax
Post by: Kevin on January 01, 2013, 08:54:43 AM
Well on the hoax note, remember this (moon hoax). I would have to say if landing on the moon 1st during the space race was a hoax it was a hoax that put the U.S. at the top of the food chain. So if you believe in the moon hoax I guess Sandy Hook could be a hoax too. If not then hopefully someone here is planning to do some investigative first hand journalism to give us first hand facts.

http://www.apfn.org/apfn/moon.htm (http://www.apfn.org/apfn/moon.htm)
Title: Re: Sandy Hook hoax
Post by: Colt808 on January 01, 2013, 09:45:22 AM
You guys must hear shit from aliens.  Seriously.   Your tin foil hatness is a waste of energy, just stop lol.  ::)

That is all we need now is gun owners trying to say that this was a staged hoax.  It makes you sound ignorant, unaware, and really just uneducated.  For onlookers, it just makes them want to work against you even more.

THIS! [though I don't find it to be a laughing matter]

Obviously you have anger issues.
Dex, I've pretty much bit my tongue when it comes to your posts and this is not in defense of ren (he can speak for himself), but I'm just going to be blunt here...it might have something to do with the stupid assed crap that you insist on pushing.

I'll admit the first few "conspiracy" posts (birther stuff ,ect) were mildly amusing and maybe intriguing, but when you start going on about faking dead babies? That's just disgusting and incredibly infuriating to anyone with a bit of sense in their head. You might think it's just free speech...okay, sure. BUT at this point you've crossed a line and become downright offensive. I truly believe you've got some issues that prevent you from seeing things rationally. Take the picture for example: You choose to see it as a picture of the Emile Parker and there's no other possible explanation...it's a conspiracy! Well, as GPAGAP said, it could be a hand-me-down dress. I pose the possibility that ALL three sisters have the exact same dress, because that's pretty common for families that have children very close in age (as in this case).

Now take a moment and think...what's more likely? Faking the deaths of 20 children or 3 sisters having the same dress (maybe bought for a family picture)? What's next...demanding proof? Need to see autopsy photos? Hell, it's just going to be an endless and irrational circle.

I'll close with this, you claim your "views are not that of the shop" (or something along those lines). I'll tell you this: You are a representative of the shop and to most, that disclaimer doesn't matter. I know I'm not the only one that doesn't want to be around if the guys with butterfly nets come for you or if you crack and run around screaming of black helicopters. So please take this as constructive advice: give it a rest or at least tone it down a little. I truly believe oddball stuff like this is hurting the 2A community and in your case, business.

No response is necessary, but feel free to come at me with a "Whatevas" or that I have some issue/need help if that makes you feel better.
Title: Re: Sandy Hook hoax
Post by: Hunter1007 on January 01, 2013, 10:52:54 AM
You guys must hear shit from aliens.  Seriously.   Your tin foil hatness is a waste of energy, just stop lol.  ::)

That is all we need now is gun owners trying to say that this was a staged hoax.  It makes you sound ignorant, unaware, and really just uneducated.  For onlookers, it just makes them want to work against you even more.

I wouldn't go so far as to say everything was staged but you have to admit the media has reported this incident in such a way that it plays into the hands of the president's political agenda.  To say that everything that has been reported in the media is unbiased and objective is crazy but that's the media for you. The point I'm trying to make is how many people in the country take whatever they see on the news as 100% fact without even exploring all the facts? Do you remember Orson Well's radio announcement on the radio years ago about aliens attacking the Earth for the "War of the Worlds" movie. Some people actually believed that we were indeed being invaded by aliens. Fast forward to today and the media has demonized pratically all guns.

 Case and point recently a non-gun owner coworker asked me about what handguns I have. He is not an anti-gunner just had no experience in the matter. I told him that I owned a Glock and before I could go on he made the comment "Ohh I better not make you mad then". I asked what he meant from that and he replied "That's what all the shooters have used" refering to Sandy Hook and Virgina Tech. Here the media, whether it intended to or not (imho the former), influenced my coworker to be somewhat averse to Glocks.

Bottom line is that the media will always report news in way that plays into current public opinion. A portion of the population will jump on the emotion bandwagon, a portion will reserve judgement and a portion will be naysayers. All I'm saying is that is people should at least entertain all the info and come to their own conclusions. That may take them to the moon with a tin foil hat but thats their opinion.
Title: Re: Sandy Hook hoax
Post by: roadster99 on January 01, 2013, 12:07:30 PM
I wouldn't go so far as to say everything was staged but you have to admit the media has reported this incident in such a way that it plays into the hands of the president's political agenda.  To say that everything that has been reported in the media is unbiased and objective is crazy but that's the media for you. The point I'm trying to make is how many people in the country take whatever they see on the news as 100% fact without even exploring all the facts? Do you remember Orson Well's radio announcement on the radio years ago about aliens attacking the Earth for the "War of the Worlds" movie. Some people actually believed that we were indeed being invaded by aliens. Fast forward to today and the media has demonized pratically all guns.

 Case and point recently a non-gun owner coworker asked me about what handguns I have. He is not an anti-gunner just had no experience in the matter. I told him that I owned a Glock and before I could go on he made the comment "Ohh I better not make you mad then". I asked what he meant from that and he replied "That's what all the shooters have used" refering to Sandy Hook and Virgina Tech. Here the media, whether it intended to or not (imho the former), influenced my coworker to be somewhat averse to Glocks.

Bottom line is that the media will always report news in way that plays into current public opinion. A portion of the population will jump on the emotion bandwagon, a portion will reserve judgement and a portion will be naysayers. All I'm saying is that is people should at least entertain all the info and come to their own conclusions. That may take them to the moon with a tin foil hat but thats their opinion.

This post embodies the crux of my argument.  I will admit that I've added my share of "controversial" posts.  As always, it isn't meant to insult (so I apologize if I have), but to garner thought.  The main point being the media spinning the truth to push their agenda.  In all honesty, I don't believe that there are kids out there faking their own deaths.  What I hate is how the media misinforms the public, reports inaccurate stories just to be able to say, "We had it here first!" which in turn creates the "hoax" argument by allowing people to reference inaccurate stories by sources deemed accurate.  But, I do believe that questions should always be asked.  When there are inconsistencies or information that just doesn't make sense, you should always question it.  In fact, there are a bunch of networks who still publish and air documentaries concerning the events of 9/11.  Just because they're questioning the facts concerning the events, does that make them crazy?

The fact that the media creates inconsistencies and the government does nothing to refute those inaccuracies stokes the flame of the "false-flag" believers.  One of the main reasons why I go to "fringe" websites and read articles such as the ones I've posted in the past is because I already know mainstream report on it.  And it's pumped full of agenda.  I read opinions of the opposite extreme and try to find ground somewhere in the middle.  Which is why, in the end, I'll post controversial content.  Seeing and understanding the other side of the coin is very important for me to have a balanced approach to events such as these.  Which is why I share it. 
Title: Re: Sandy Hook hoax
Post by: Funtimes on January 01, 2013, 12:09:27 PM

 Case and point recently a non-gun owner coworker asked me about what handguns I have. He is not an anti-gunner just had no experience in the matter. I told him that I owned a Glock and before I could go on he made the comment "Ohh I better not make you mad then". I asked what he meant from that and he replied "That's what all the shooters have used" refering to Sandy Hook and Virgina Tech. Here the media, whether it intended to or not (imho the former), influenced my coworker to be somewhat averse to Glocks.

You should have just pulled out a piece a paper and mumbled his name as you wrote it down.

As far as the media goes, it's the media - what is one to expect?
Title: Re: Sandy Hook hoax
Post by: roadster99 on January 01, 2013, 12:28:52 PM
As far as the media goes, it's the media - what is one to expect?

People rely on them for their daily dose of information.  What's troubling is when the information they're getting is inaccurate.  It's pushed to make the populace believe a certain way, then they reap the fruits of their labor when it comes to election day.  I would love some semblance of truth coming from them.  I believe it's their job to provide journalism without agenda.  Not a one-sided delivery, as it is today.  The reason why we're even having this debate in this thread is a direct result of the media.  And we're all on common ground in this forum.  How can we possibly convince those that don't feel the same way when we're not only fighting against the beliefs of the people, but the agendas of the MSM?  It just feels like a race where the finish line just keeps getting pushed back again, and again.
Title: Re: Sandy Hook hoax
Post by: Hunter1007 on January 01, 2013, 12:39:33 PM
People rely on them for their daily dose of information.  What's troubling is when the information they're getting is inaccurate.  It's pushed to make the populace believe a certain way, then they reap the fruits of their labor when it comes to election day.  I would love some semblance of truth coming from them.  I believe it's their job to provide journalism without agenda.  Not a one-sided delivery, as it is today.  The reason why we're even having this debate in this thread is a direct result of the media.  And we're all on common ground in this forum.  How can we possibly convince those that don't feel the same way when we're not only fighting against the beliefs of the people, but the agendas of the MSM?  It just feels like a race where the finish line just keeps getting pushed back again, and again.

Yeah its like what happened in this last election. Mainland news was reporting that Hirono won in a landslide before the polling places were closed. Granted thats eventually what happened but if you recall there were tons of people still in line to vote. Who's to say that a good portion of these people heard the news and said we already lost so no need stay in line to vote. Its revisionist history or in that case outright sabotage.
Title: Re: Sandy Hook hoax
Post by: SpeedTek on January 01, 2013, 12:41:20 PM
Quote
The massacre in Connecticut that's taken the lives of at least 26 people was reportedly perpetrated with a .223 caliber rifle, a Glock pistol and a Sig Sauer pistol, according to NBC:

The shooter was using one Sig Sauer and one Glock pistol, according to CNN. Later details emerged that the primary weapon was the Bushmaster "assault-style" rifle.

Altogether, though, it doesn't matter what type of weapon the shooter used. The bottom line is that it was likely a magazine fed, semi-automatic, with enough rounds to shoot "100 shots" in a matter of minutes, as quoted in USA Today.

different media sources. Cant even get the story straight!
Title: Re: Sandy Hook hoax
Post by: Hunter1007 on January 01, 2013, 12:49:32 PM
different media sources. Cant even get the story straight!

Lanza could have easily done the same with a double barrel shotgun and a box of bird shot. All he had to do was block the door way of a classroom and shoot. A classroom of 5 year olds  are sitting ducks.
Title: Re: Sandy Hook hoax
Post by: xer 21 on January 01, 2013, 01:26:19 PM
People rely on them for their daily dose of information.  What's troubling is when the information they're getting is inaccurate.  It's pushed to make the populace believe a certain way,
i dont think its that sinister.

im pretty sure they;re doing it because inciting controversies gives them weeks of high ratings.
Title: Re: Sandy Hook hoax
Post by: xer 21 on January 01, 2013, 01:27:41 PM
different media sources. Cant even get the story straight!

im struggling to see the differences between those two.

all of them mention a rifle, a sig and a glock.  what are you getting at?
Title: Re: Sandy Hook hoax
Post by: SpeedTek on January 01, 2013, 01:31:27 PM
What was used and how was used.  Then trying to blame the Bushy.  Was it in the trunk or was the shotgun?
Title: Re: Sandy Hook hoax
Post by: xer 21 on January 01, 2013, 01:41:37 PM
What was used and how was used.  Then trying to blame the Bushy.  Was it in the trunk or was the shotgun?

Quote
The massacre in Connecticut that's taken the lives of at least 26 people was reportedly perpetrated with a .223 caliber rifle, a Glock pistol and a Sig Sauer pistol, according to NBC:

The shooter was using one Sig Sauer and one Glock pistol, according to CNN. Later details emerged that the primary weapon was the Bushmaster "assault-style" rifle.

these are saying the exact same thing, in different wordings.

you;re confusing yourself, dude.
Title: Re: Sandy Hook hoax
Post by: Funtimes on January 01, 2013, 09:20:52 PM
What was used and how was used.  Then trying to blame the Bushy.  Was it in the trunk or was the shotgun?

I'm almost 99% positive that is a semi-auto shotgun. Whatever it was, it had a side charging handle and a pretty big cartridge get ejected from it.
Title: Re: Sandy Hook hoax
Post by: clshade on January 16, 2013, 10:48:45 AM
Have you guys seen this summary of the evidence?

The Sandy Hook Shooting - Fully Exposed (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Wx9GxXYKx_8#ws)

30 minutes long but a good watch if you're interested in the subject.

Excuse me... I have to go check on the stock prices of tin foil...
Title: Re: Sandy Hook hoax
Post by: dirsh on January 16, 2013, 06:49:31 PM
question everything
Title: Re: Sandy Hook hoax
Post by: armsinc on January 16, 2013, 07:31:51 PM
So ive been watching more and more YouTube videos of how "suppossed parents" and witnesses and victims are really actors and have been on CNN and other news reports.  Also, that Sandy Hook has been used in the past for crisis drills for the same mass murder scenario.  The forensic doctor interview was a joke, and the whole event was a staged crisis event to get the publics reaction and the government to bring up the the legal arms issue.  Even Victoria Soto a suppossed teacher who died sacrificing herself to protect her students had a facebook page claiming here dead with a RIP tribute to her before the Sandy Hook event.  Her FB site has been since deactivated.

How will Obama and the US government answer to the validity of Sandy Hook and still pursue getting weapons banned or restricted?  Its a disgrace our govt for the people and by the people stooped so low to bring up an argument to restrict and/or ban our 2nd amendment right.

Your tinfoil hat / underwear is coming off!   This is the most fucked up thing I've read today!!!  I know somebody through a friend who actually lost their daughter in this horrible tragedy!!!  Those were real bodies and real people!!!

The fact that some crazy lunatic killed his own mother and stole her firearms to commit this atrocity is not reason enough to restrict lawful order ship of modern sporting rifles.... The points we should be making about living in a free society, is that we cannot base certain laws on what somebody who's willing to kill their own mother would do!!! 


This is appalling!!!!

If you have a shred of humanity you will not spread this crap!!!
Title: Re: Sandy Hook hoax
Post by: Jl808 on January 18, 2013, 12:43:29 AM
Been thinking about this... some of the stuff presented in this video especially about the Parker dad and the photos of Emily Parker just didn't make sense.

Here's another simple and possible explanation...

Could there just have been fake actors that acted out the news reels we saw afterwards to shape public perception after the tragedy happened? 

Why?  I don't know... to coverup some details of the actual incident?  News sensationalizing?  Fitting a gun ban agenda?  not sure... too many conflicting and suppressed information.
Title: Re: Sandy Hook hoax
Post by: Heavies on January 18, 2013, 05:23:26 PM
Folks. Better now to concentrate on the hard battles we have ahead of us. Nothing right now will come of any conspiracy theories. It is all just a diversion to keep the eye off of the real issues we face right now. Concentrate all energies on fighting the insane laws that are being put forth. After those battles are won we can call for whatever investigations are warrented. Keep as one!
Title: Re: Sandy Hook hoax
Post by: roadster99 on January 19, 2013, 10:07:12 PM
Now let me get one thing straight.  I'm not saying the shooting didn't happen.  But my argument is, and always has been, the misinformation that the MSM dishes out to the general pubic in order to push the liberal/socialist agenda as far as they can.  Do I believe that the Sandy Hook shooting occurred?  Yes, I do.  It was a horrific event cause by a psychopath with a gun(s).  Do I believe that Sandy Hook was a hoax?  No.  How can a tragedy of that magnitude be faked?  Has the media been truthful with the content they're distributing?  No, I don't believe so.  In fact, my opinion is that there are blatant lies being spread in order to sway public opinion fueled off of emotions spurred by the event.  What makes the situation worse and helps fuel the conspiracy fire is that the government shows no interest in putting out those fires either.  I just wish that there was more truth in reporting.  It's frustrating when it's difficult to trust what's considered reputable news sources.

Sorry to add to the conspiracy theories.  Take a look at this article, watch the videos and compare the photographs.

http://theintelhub.com/2013/01/19/sandy-hook-smoking-gun-revealed-factions-of-government-law-enforcement-and-mainstream-media-including-anderson-cooper-engaged-in-treason-against-the-united-states-and-its-citizens/ (http://theintelhub.com/2013/01/19/sandy-hook-smoking-gun-revealed-factions-of-government-law-enforcement-and-mainstream-media-including-anderson-cooper-engaged-in-treason-against-the-united-states-and-its-citizens/)

So who's right?  Who's wrong?  What do we believe and what do we brush off as wacko?  Do we take everything from CNN, FOX, NBC at face value and give them the benefit of the doubt?  Or do we listen to fringe websites like this and believe the total opposite?  How do we come to an honest conclusion, not just on Sandy Hook, but on everyday, relevant news matters which affect our lives on a daily basis without being inundated with biased information?
Title: Re: Sandy Hook hoax
Post by: clshade on January 19, 2013, 10:57:30 PM
Meh. Inconsistent footage isn't necessarily a smoking gun. "Live" footage isn't always live and news outlets run BS footage all the time.

That's one of the reasons you can't really trust footage. So they took a shotgun out of a car. We have only the word of the reporter that the footage in question is the actual car, or anything other than stock footage.

I work in video. :shrug: Stuff gets taken out of context all the time.

edit - I should add that this isn't (necessarily) done to mislead but to present the most visually gripping images.
Title: Re: Sandy Hook hoax
Post by: BUD on January 22, 2013, 03:28:26 PM
If you read the biography of William Randolph Hearst, you will see that the news ceased to be the news some time ago. 
Title: Re: Sandy Hook hoax
Post by: nf9648 on January 22, 2013, 04:32:30 PM
Doesnt everybody know that "gullible" isnt in the dictionary?