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General Topics => Political Discussion => Topic started by: changemyoil66 on October 24, 2024, 10:41:10 AM
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Since we had a 2020 thread, lets start one as it's already happening. Feel free to repost what was already posted in other threads so we can keep track.
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One of the problems with election violations is the Catch 22 embedded in the process.
if you find a violation before the election, you may not have standing to contest the process prior to the vote count.
If you win, there's no harm.
If you wait until the votes are counted, there's no real remedy short of holding a new election for that race.
We are still seeing a ton of 2020 and 2022 cases being decided this year.
Some of the cases involve the states not following their own election laws.
Our elections to a large degree are being relegated to the courts. When the decisions take forever to be handed down, it's simply too little too late.
Pennsylvania and Wisconsin violated their own election laws and procedures in 2020.
These two important rulings emphasize the necessity of the rule of law in elections, in
order to achieve basic election integrity. Elections need to be conducted by the book
so the American people can trust the results.
https://thefederalist.com/2022/07/14/courts-squash-democrats-most-secure-election-lie-swing-states-didnt-follow-their-own-election-laws-in-2020/
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our local election office is on Lehua ave, way back near a homeless village ala Mad Max Thunderdome Captain Walker style
We have the LOWEST voter turnout in the nation. We dont care or are too dumb to vote, hence we have dumb people in charge. Thats why he have the most expensive public works project in the nation. We hired monkeys, gave them Viagra and a football.
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Montana election officials caught a Democrat operative allegedly tampering with a ballot box on Sunday.
Crystal Cole, the Glacier County election administrator, called up the Democrat. He told her he was just testing "to see how secure the box was."
The man in the video is Laszlo Gendler, an employee of the Democratic Senatorial Campaign committee (DSCC) this cycle.
"Poll observers are instructed not to touch ballot boxes. This individual was attempting to ensure a new ballot box was secured to the wall, and neither the ballot box or ballots were affected," David Bergstein, DSCC spokesperson told FOX.
This matter has been referred to the Glacier County Sheriff.
The man was recorded on video grabbing the box with both hands, letting go, walking back a few steps, then touching the box again.
The Montana Senatorial Race is one of the tightest races in the country.
It doesn't have to be a coordinated national conspiracy. If you can convince millions that Trump is the devil, individuals will find their own ways to screw things up.
As Tim asks in this video, since when is it the place for any member of one campaign or party to "test" ballot boxes?
This may be a test of the state's election system overall .... to see if he would get caught were he to actually try to open or take the ballot box.
The Glacier County ballot box can be found in Montana's First Congressional District, the home of Republican Rep. Ryan Zinke, who is running for reelection against Democrat Monica Tranel. The Montana Democratic Party offered “no comment” to Fox News.
A normal person doesn't act like this. He had to have some end game in mind. Did he intend to come back with tools and steal the ballots from the (R) Senator's home district?
https://thepostmillennial.com/dem-operative-caught-allegedly-tampering-with-montana-ballot-box
https://youtu.be/tPtqkD0adyM
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=R7_TFEiCjYE
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https://twitter.com/WallStreetApes/status/1849640032048464117
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=N6WZ3_8YgSU
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Arizona election ballots damaged
after USPS mailbox lit on fire,
suspect arrested
Around 20 mail-in ballots have been damaged in Phoenix after an arson
suspect set fire to a U.S. Postal Service mailbox, officials say.
Dieter Klofkorn, 35, has been arrested on one felony count of Arson to
Property following the incident that unfolded early Thursday morning in
Arizona’s capital.
"Klofkorn stated that he committed the arson because he wanted to be
arrested and that his actions were not politically motivated and not related
to anything involving the upcoming election," the Phoenix Police
Department said in a statement.
https://www.foxnews.com/politics/arizona-election-ballots-damaged-after-usps-mailbox-lit-fire-suspect-arrested
I believe if you start a fire that causes someone to die, even if the deceased was a firefighter, you may be charged with homicide. It doesn't matter if you were only motivated by revenge, a compulsion or insurance fraud.
In the same way, this guy should be charged with federal crimes -- attempted election interference and voter disenfranchisement among others. 20 counts at least.
This may or may bot have been an attempt to destroy ballots, but the ballots were damaged or destroyed all the same.
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Y9Ewz29C8mI
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"Reinforcing concerns that many Americans have with voting that isn't done in-person, at least 12 Colorado mail-in ballots were stolen, filled out with forged signatures, and submitted -- and three of them are going to count anyway."
https://www.zerohedge.com/political/least-dozen-colorado-ballots-stolen-and-mailed-officials-say
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"Reinforcing concerns that many Americans have with voting that isn't done in-person, at least 12 Colorado mail-in ballots were stolen, filled out with forged signatures, and submitted -- and three of them are going to count anyway."
https://www.zerohedge.com/political/least-dozen-colorado-ballots-stolen-and-mailed-officials-say
but the discovery leaves people wondering how many other forged ballots may
have gone undetected elsewhere in the state and across the country.
This has been the entire problem. The standard being used by Democrats has been keeping the problem alive.
They tell us, "the number of proven voter fraud instances is not enough to change the results of the election."
Well, that's because you don't know how many instances are out there undetected. Add to that the cases where there wasn't enough evidence to convict or toss out the ballot. Then add the observed irregularities of counting thousands of ballots after poll observers were told to go home, boxes of ballots without chain of custody proof, etc, etc.
It all adds up to a bucket of votes large enough to matter collected one drop at a time.
The instances we do find out about at the very least cast doubt on the controls and auditing processes used for every election.
This especially matters in local races where the outcomes are often decided by just a few votes.
One ballot voting for the candidate the real voter didn't want would cause a 2 vote swing -- +1 for the candidate the fraudster picked, and -1 for the candidate the voter would have picked.
It can really add up if every stolen ballot causes a 2 vote shift.
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"Reinforcing concerns that many Americans have with voting that isn't done in-person, at least 12 Colorado mail-in ballots were stolen, filled out with forged signatures, and submitted -- and three of them are going to count anyway."
https://www.zerohedge.com/political/least-dozen-colorado-ballots-stolen-and-mailed-officials-say
Apparently there was a 4th that was to be counted, but the registered voter received a notification that their ballot had been received. The voter knew he hadn't receive his ballot yet, so he reported the incident to election officials. It looks like they stopped that one from counting.
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"Mob" rule brings on a new meaning.
One drop out of a million doesn't mean anything. Won't change anything.
A million drops all over the place adds up but according to a particular party it's irrelevant.
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Full statement on previously posted video:
Pennsylvania county halts hundreds of
potentially fraudulent voter registration forms
Officials in Lancaster County in the swing state of Pennsylvania say they
identified hundreds of potentially fraudulent voter registration applications.
"Suspected fraudulent voter registration forms were dropped off at the Board
of Elections Office in two batches at or near the deadline for submission,"
the board said in a statement on Friday. "There are approximately 2,500
voter registration applications total in these two batches."
https://www.npr.org/2024/10/25/nx-s1-5165382/lancaster-county-voter-registration-fraud
https://youtu.be/534TL2FWZQ0
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Full statement on previously posted video:
Pennsylvania county halts hundreds of
potentially fraudulent voter registration formshttps://www.npr.org/2024/10/25/nx-s1-5165382/lancaster-county-voter-registration-fraud
https://youtu.be/534TL2FWZQ0
From 6:38 on from the video reveals the most disturbing aspect of all. And this disturbing aspect is happening in one county. There are 68 counties in the state of Pennsylvania.
There are 3,242 counties in the US, the district of Columbia, and territories.
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ldxdRIb0VI0
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ldxdRIb0VI0
I agree all of this is 100% totally nuts but did Virginia violate the 90 day clause set forth in the National Voter Registration Act of 1993?
Because I always wonder why states try to fix their voting procedures so close to an election. Why couldn't they do it sooner.
Welcome any explanations.
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CgawWGOu4uk
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I agree all of this is 100% totally nuts but did Virginia violate the 90 day clause set forth in the National Voter Registration Act of 1993?
Because I always wonder why states try to fix their voting procedures so close to an election. Why couldn't they do it sooner.
Welcome any explanations.
Most states don't assign enough people to the elections commission until ballots need to be compiled and printed, polling places manned, and votes counted. Lots of those people are volunteers, and the jobs don't require year-round staffing.
So, until it gets close to the election, they don't have the manpower to do these voter role cleanups without more funding.
You also have to consider the fact that cleaning up the roles too soon would potentially delete voters who may not have been permitted to vote when deleted, but would be eligible when the election is held, such as having your 18th birthday, receiving your naturalization as a citizen, having a felony charge expunged, lost or stolen ID or Social Security card, or establishing residency in Hawaii, Any of these criteria can be remedied prior to the election. The sooner you start purging roles, the more of these types of situations will cause the registration to be canceled before the voter's status can be verified as a legal voter.
The state also may not have the people or money to purge the roles sooner. For instance, how do they know someone died or moved away? Lots of crosschecking of records needs to be done so they know they are removing only ineligible registrations -- except for deceased Democrats who vote every election! :geekdanc:
Hawaii's election workers and supervisors are divided into groups:
1. Board of Registration
Each Board of Registration convenes in their respective county on election day.
A Board may also convene at the request of the clerk to hear appeals from registered
voters and remain convened until all appeals are heard.
There are four Boards of Registration representing the following islands:
Island of Hawaii
Islands of Maui, Molokai, Lanai, and Kahoolawe
Island of Oahu
Islands of Kauai and Niihau
Each Board consists of three (3) members appointed by the Governor
serving four (4) year terms. In no case shall any Board consist entirely
of members of one political affiliation.
2. Elections Commission:
Act 57 (Bill No. HB 267, 2004) establishes a nine (9) member panel,
called the Elections Commission, which replaces the Elections and Appointment
Review Panel.
The Elections Commission is composed of the following:
Two (2) members appointed by the Senate President
Two (2) members appointed by the Senate Minority Leader
Two (2) members appointed by the House Speaker
Two (2) members appointed by the House Minority Leader
One (1) member selected by a two-thirds vote of the Elections
Commission to serve as Chairperson
Each group of four (4) Elections Commission members selected
by each house will include (1) member from each of the four counties:
Hawaii, Maui, Kauai, Oahu.
A person from the same county as the departing Elections member
will fill a vacancy in the Elections Commission. If the vacancy is not
filled within fifteen (15) days, the Chief Justice of the Supreme Court
will fill the vacancy.
3. The Statewide Elections Accessibility Needs Advisory Committee
The Statewide Elections Accessibility Needs Advisory Committee ensures
equal and independent access to voter registration, casting of ballots,
and all other election services.
The committee shall meet annually to review election procedures, services,
and technology and access to information, and shall make recommendations
to the Office of Elections.
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The committee shall consist of five (5) members appointed by the governor.
Each member shall identify as a voter with special needs arising from
physical disabilities including visual and hearing impairments that require
an accommodation to vote.
The terms of advisory committee members shall be four years.
The elections could not be conducted without the assistance,
time, and dedication of hundreds of volunteers statewide!
Every even-numbered year, volunteers are needed:
- July through August for the Primary Election
- October through November for the General Election
https://elections.hawaii.gov/voting/volunteer/
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Most states don't assign enough people to the elections commission until ballots need to be compiled and printed, polling places manned, and votes counted. Lots of those people are volunteers, and the jobs don't require year-round staffing.
So, until it gets close to the election, they don't have the manpower to do these voter role cleanups without more funding.
You also have to consider the fact that cleaning up the roles too soon would potentially delete voters who may not have been permitted to vote when deleted, but would be eligible when the election is held, such as having your 18th birthday, receiving your naturalization as a citizen, having a felony charge expunged, lost or stolen ID or Social Security card, or establishing residency in Hawaii, Any of these criteria can be remedied prior to the election. The sooner you start purging roles, the more of these types of situations will cause the registration to be canceled before the voter's status can be verified as a verified voter.
The state also may not have the people or money to purge the roles sooner. For instance, how do they know someone died or moved away? Lots of crosschecking of records needs to be done so they know they are removing only ineligible registrations -- except for deceased Democrats who vote every election! :geekdanc:
Hawaii's election workers and supervisors are divided into groups:
1. Board of Registration
2. Elections Commission:
3. The Statewide Elections Accessibility Needs Advisory Committee https://elections.hawaii.gov/voting/volunteer/
Thanks for the explanation! :shaka:
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If you don't already do so, follow Surfing4Truth on IG.
His work is the main reason so many people are realizing how corrupt our voting system is.
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(https://i.imgur.com/AFwU3Pk.jpg)
Probably because they plan to employ sleepy joe after he's done screwing the country. He counts like he speaks.
Exactly. :rofl:
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https://www.reuters.com/world/us/republican-battleground-state-legal-blitz-falters-ahead-us-presidential-election-2024-10-27/
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If you cannot always win, just change the rules.
https://youtu.be/DavsS6AAjeo
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https://youtu.be/GjwVxOjlqCs
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Democrats will always try to keep America in sh1+ for their own benefit
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Montana election officials caught a Democrat operative allegedly tampering with a ballot box on Sunday.
Crystal Cole, the Glacier County election administrator, called up the Democrat. He told her he was just testing "to see how secure the box was."
The man in the video is Laszlo Gendler, an employee of the Democratic Senatorial Campaign committee (DSCC) this cycle.
***** FOLLOW-UP *****
Democrat Senate campaign org fires employee
accused of ‘tampering’ with Montana ballot box
https://nypost.com/2024/10/23/us-news/democrat-senate-campaign-org-fires-employee-accused-of-tampering-with-montana-ballot-box/
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Ballot drop boxes set on fire in Oregon and Washington
The FBI is investigating after two ballot drop boxes went up in flames in the
Portland, Oregon, area in the early hours of Monday.
Hundreds of ballots were burned in a fire that started outside a park and ride
station in Vancouver, a small city in Washington state less than 10 miles (16km)
from Portland.
Local media reported that a device was stuck to the outside of a ballot drop box.
Meanwhile in the south-east part of Portland itself, investigators said, an incendiary
device was placed inside a ballot box, causing a small fire.
Dedicated ballot drop boxes are used in a number of US states and cities to allow
voters to submit their ballots early without having to wait in a queue on Election Day.
https://www.msn.com/en-xl/news/other/ballot-drop-boxes-set-on-fire-in-oregon-and-washington/ar-AA1t5k6g
You have to be thinking, "Will the FBI be quicker to investigate ballot destruction in (D) areas and slower in others?"
Based on the Hunter Laptop FBI cover up, I'd say there's a very good chance.
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O'keefe Media Group (James OKeefe) has hidden camera footage. OK to "ballot harvest" in AZ as long as it was signed, it's not ballot harvesting. So 1 person can turn in 40 ballots and it's all G.
Much more to come.
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This falls under voter intimidation and threats.
Philly man indicted for threatening PA poll worker
is a Democrat, poll worker supports Trump
Translation:
Democrat Indicted for Threatening
Pro-Trump Poll Worker in Philly, PA
A Philadelphia man was charged with threatening to kill and "skin alive" a woman
who was recruiting poll watchers on social media. If he's convicted, John Pollard
will face 5 years in prison. Pollard made the threats when responding to a social
media post made by a woman who was seeking poll watchers. In her ask, she
had shared her email and phone number. The woman Pollard threatened was a
Trump supporter and Pollard is a Democrat.
Pollard reached out to her, saying he was "interested in being a poll watcher."
When she didn't respond within nine minutes, he sent "I will KILL YOU IF YOU
DON'T ANSWER ME!" A few seconds later, he sent the message "Your days are
numbered, B*TCH!" This was followed by the gruesome "GONNA F*CKING FIND
YOU AND SKIN YOU ALIVE AND USE YOUR SKIN FOR F*CKING TOILET PAPER,
YOU F*CKING KKK*NT!" The last message was sent only 10 minutes after he'd
sent his first inquiry.
https://thepostmillennial.com/exclusive-philly-man-indicted-for-threatening-pa-poll-worker-is-a-democrat-poll-worker-supports-trump
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twitter is showing several instances in PA of dem campaign workers fraudulently posing as poll workers and turning people away from the voting lines, saying the polls are closed because the lines are too long. PA is a major battleground state, swing state. the election outcome will probably depend on PA's slow-as-molasses ballot counting.
and there was the instance in VA where a voting machine had Trump's name mispelled as "Triump", which IMHO, could cause votes to be invalidated. Went on for perhaps 6 hrs before they said they fixed it, or got caught, depending on how you look at it. Dominion anyone? Washington County, VA. way-out-west part of VA. I suspect that's a red county in blue-leaning VA. It always happens that way, right?
maybe we've reached the point where the UN needs to come in and administer our election? but I certainly don't trust them either.
At this rate, I would trust the new president of El Salvador to be the guy to entrust our elections to, hard-core anti-crime, but I don't know, seems he's shipping a lot of their criminals across our southern border.
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twitter is showing several instances in PA of dem campaign workers fraudulently posing as poll workers and turning people away from the voting lines, saying the polls are closed because the lines are too long. PA is a major battleground state, swing state. the election outcome will probably depend on PA's slow-as-molasses ballot counting.
and there was the instance in VA where a voting machine had Trump's name mispelled as "Triump", which IMHO, could cause votes to be invalidated. Went on for perhaps 6 hrs before they said they fixed it, or got caught, depending on how you look at it. Dominion anyone? Washington County, VA. way-out-west part of VA. I suspect that's a red county in blue-leaning VA. It always happens that way, right?
maybe we've reached the point where the UN needs to come in and administer our election? but I certainly don't trust them either.
At this rate, I would trust the new president of El Salvador to be the guy to entrust our elections to, hard-core anti-crime, but I don't know, seems he's shipping a lot of their criminals across our southern border.
It's a fact that more Republican voters turn out in person, while more mail-in ballots come from Democrat voters (and other places yet to be determined).
It makes sense that interfering with voters in line to cast a ballot would effect the GOP side more.
I hope someone is recording these crimes, and the barred voters return to try again.
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VIdeo circulating the net of a cop in PA holding the back of a line and it's 4pm. Polls close at 430. He was turning people away cause there's too many. Cop also stated that the line has been closed since 1:45pm. I guess it's not a as long as you're in line by 430, they have to let you vote. Reminds me of HPD closing the line at 145 cause they want to go home by 3:30.
Is this cop just following orders?
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SCOTUS ruled VA can purge the 1600 non US citizen voters.
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2 for 1 here
Michigan Secretary of State reveals nationwide issue with Dominion machines, meanwhile Colorado Secretary of State leaked 600 BIOS passwords and tried to cover it up.
https://www.zerohedge.com/political/michigan-says-nationwide-issue-certain-dominion-machines-while-colorado-leaked-voting
Jena Griswold
This is the same person who:
-Sent voter registration mailers to 30,000 non-citizens
-Messaged voters to vote after they already voted
-Tried to remove Trump from the ballot
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Coincidence? .....
Bucks County is now the only Republican majority
county in the area. What does that mean for November?
https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/politics/bucks-county-is-now-the-only-republican-majority-county-in-the-area-what-does-that-mean-for-november/ar-BB1qxkxg
Hmmmmmm........
Bucks County ordered to extend on-demand
voting until Friday after Trump lawsuit
The filing with the Bucks County Court of Common Pleas, posted online late
Wednesday morning, alleges that the county violated the state’s election laws
by not allowing some voters to use the “on-demand mail-ballot” option in the
final hours of the mail-in ballot application at 5 p.m. Oct. 29.
On-demand mail voting in Pennsylvania is a process where a registered voter
can apply for, complete and return a mail ballot in one stop, rather than waiting
for their ballot to arrive by mail and then returning it later.
“In other words, by appearing at one of the Board's offices during posted
operating hours and by the application deadline to exercise their On Demand
Mailin-Ballot Option, many of Plaintiffs' members and supporters effectively
attempted to apply for a mail in ballot by the application deadline but the Board
refused to process the same,” attorney Walter Zimolong, based in Delaware
County, wrote in the court documents.
Bucks County Judge Jeffrey Trauger has ordered the Bucks County Board of
Elections to extend its on-demand mail-in ballot deadline until "the close of
business" on Friday, Nov. 1.
https://www.usatoday.com/story/news/politics/elections/2024/10/30/donald-trump-bucks-county-lawsuit-to-extend-mail-ballot-deadline-on-demand-early-voting-pa/75943221007/
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my liberal friend said its OK to cheat a little to stop Trump...
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VIdeo circulating the net of a cop in PA holding the back of a line and it's 4pm. Polls close at 430. He was turning people away cause there's too many. Cop also stated that the line has been closed since 1:45pm. I guess it's not a as long as you're in line by 430, they have to let you vote. Reminds me of HPD closing the line at 145 cause they want to go home by 3:30.
Is this cop just following orders?
According to election officials, there may have been incidents of "miscommunication," :rofl:
....voters have reported being told that computers are not working, polling sites are closing
early and not accepting more voters and that mail ballots will not be counted.
"No voter should be turned away, told an office is closing early, or told they cannot be
accommodated if they appear during the posted business hours," the letter said.
In a briefing on Tuesday, Schmidt said the department "has received many questions about
voters encountering delays at county election offices as they attempt to vote in person by
mail ballot.
"Last week, the Department of State asked counties to plan to ensure every registered voter
who was in line by 5 p.m. today is provided with the opportunity to apply for and submit a
mail ballot application."
https://www.newsweek.com/pennsylvania-early-voting-issues-maga-fury-1977067
What's being reported -- and in some cases verified by state officials -- doesn't match up with what officials said they are supposed to be doing.
PA -- the land of 3AM phantom "almost exclusively Democrat" ballots.
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my liberal friend said its OK to cheat a little to stop Trump...
You have a friend?
Good for you!
:geekdanc: :shaka:
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According to election officials, there may have been incidents of "miscommunication," :rofl:
https://www.newsweek.com/pennsylvania-early-voting-issues-maga-fury-1977067
What's being reported -- and in some cases verified by state officials -- doesn't match up with what officials said they are supposed to be doing.
PA -- the land of 3AM phantom "almost exclusively Democrat" ballots.
Reminds me when HPD closed the road and prevented protestors from crossing in front Real Doctor Greens condo in downtown. Only for them to leave 15 mins later when they realized they're violating peoples 1a.
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GOP in MI stopped 160,000 duplicate balots from being counted. MI has 114,000 registered voters and 279,000 ballots have been cast. 1 voter ID cast 15 ballots. they used different addresses.
How come all this voter fraud is being caught by the GOP and none by the DNC? Does the DNC trust the system, or are they part of it?
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Reminds me when HPD closed the road and prevented protestors from crossing in front Real Doctor Greens condo in downtown. Only for them to leave 15 mins later when they realized they're violating peoples 1a.
The problem with unconstitutional/illegal "oopsies" by government officials is the damage is already done. They got what they wanted, and any punishment after the fact was, in their minds, worth it.
Harry Reid exemplified this perfectly when asked if he regretted lying about Mitt Romney not filing tax returns for 10 years. Harry replied, "Romney didn’t win, did he??"
https://time.com/3765158/harry-reid-mitt-romney-no-taxes/
No integrity -- just win at all costs.
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You have a friend?
Good for you!
:geekdanc: :shaka:
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But the demorats said voter fraud neva happened, Right?
https://youtu.be/DIk70wBW-po
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The DNC is planning the long game. Mail in votes now so they can control things until this option is deleted.
Saw a HHN clip about voting. Had a lady taking the ballot and sleeve out of the envelope then putting the envelop in 1 stack and the sleeve+ballot in another. Assume the ballot was verified prior to this, but if there ever is a audit that turns up invalid voters, how do we know which ballot was in their envelope? This is rhetorical because this was addressed in the 2020 election fraud thread in great detail. Long story short, there is no way.
What if we went to a online instead? You have to either enter your states drivers license or state ID, followed by social, DOB,etc...A server can keep track of who you voted for and if it turns out you're not allowed to vote, then your vote can be purged. This would also keep track of duplicate votes since socials are used.
Now some may say, what if you have none, but a passport? I worked in a bank and the only people who brought a passport was cause they lost their ID's. It's too humbug to carry your passport compared to a plastic card. So they can vote in person.
What if you have no ID, then too bad. You cannot navigate life without an ID. But it would be the same as mail in ballots as there would be no signature to compare the signed envelope to.
Audits could be done much faster as random samples could be pulled to check voter status and stuff.
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Georgia being Georgia
https://www.zerohedge.com/political/there-are-no-watchers-rnc-sues-georgia-counties-over-last-minute-decision-accept-weekend
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Ask yourself why, if there's a need to monitor polls on election DAY, is the Injustice Department not monitoring EARLY voting, too? Are they also not monitoring the counting processes, especially in swing states?
Our country is being stolen by those willing and able to cheat voters from choosing our leaders. The people we expect to enforce the law are turning a blind eye before, during and after the cheaters are exposed.
The report sounds like the DOJ is only monitoring polls for "civil rights violations", such as people being turned away from voting. In other words, they want as many people to vote as possible without interference over minor glitches like not proving citizenship.
I bet they don't care about the civil rights of citizens being violated by states willing to cheat and disobey their own laws.
https://youtu.be/PR1xv0bbP5c
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Looks like Iowa is in play and about to flip to Harris. Please put a lid on misinformation from the Kremlin.
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about to flip?
it's plus 3 harris
focus...
Looks like Iowa is in play and about to flip to Harris. Please put a lid on misinformation from the Kremlin.
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past history has shown us that the polls are unreliable indicators. It's the best that we got in this world of uncertainty, but the likelihood of the polls being 180 off is not zero, somewhere between 0 and unfortunately 50%.
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nope
it's over
rhayder says so...
past history has shown us that the polls are unreliable indicators. It's the best that we got in this world of uncertainty, but the likelihood of the polls being 180 off is not zero, somewhere between 0 and unfortunately 50%.
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Looks like Iowa is in play and about to flip to Harris. Please put a lid on misinformation from the Kremlin.
Election day is Tuesday. This is only Saturday. Sounds like you're experiencing premature election anxiety.
Harris leads 47% to 44% among likely voters, the poll found. This comes
just more than a month after a September poll showed a narrow Trump
lead.
The Register says the poll included responses from 808 likely Iowa voters
and was conducted from Oct. 28-31, with a 3.4 percentage point margin
of error.
Do you know how statistical analysis works?
A 3 point lead in a poll with a 3.4% margin of error means there's a 6.8% spread. If the difference between the candidates is less than 6.8 points (47-44=3%), then the candidates remain statistically even.
Harris has a long way before anything is "flipped". Harris needs to poll 3.8 more points from where she is now to be considered ahead. And Trump would have to remain where he's polling or lower.
Margins are usually expressed in terms of plus or minus (±), because the margin runs above and below the stated poll numbers. That's why the spread is twice the margin.
Educating Democrat supporters is hard work, and it's often a waste of effort. But, maybe we can get lucky now and then.
https://www.kcci.com/article/iowa-poll-results-2024-election-kamala-harris-donald-trump/62793020
P.S. The ONLY poll that matters will be on Tuesday. States are not supposed to count mail-in ballots before the polls close on election day, because if the pre-election totals show a large lead, it can create decreased motivation for taking time to vote for the one who's behind. Even if a state (like GA) wants to count mail-ins early, the tallies have to be protected so they aren't leaked to the public.
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Looks like Iowa is in play and about to flip to Harris. Please put a lid on misinformation from the Kremlin.
Who here is from there or provide examples of what post ur talking about.
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YT had 2 adds of "misinfo" by some young guys. Idk if theyre influencers or not but 1 as went like
"Trump will raise taxes"
The other
"Harris will lower inflation"
Each was a 10 second ad.
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Kremlin agents can get arrested and tried for election interference. I'm more concerned about misinformation from the CIA. Zero consequences so far from four years ago.
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https://youtu.be/w7236DUioHw
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The audit system is a fraud.
Real example
Chinese national in MI registered to vote and voted. Hes being charged for this. But his vote will count as they cant track his vote.
See the problem?
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The audit system is a fraud.
Real example
Chinese national in MI registered to vote and voted. Hes being charged for this. But his vote will count as they cant track his vote.
See the problem?
The problem is we've allowed the inmates to run the asylum.
Nothing will be solved because the people who can fix it are happy with the problems that exist when they help them stay in power.
As I posted before, even when the problem is proven in court, there's no remedy short of passing better laws for future elections. The damage has already been done, and government is reluctant to undo an election months after the cheating occurred.
If one instance is proven, then the problem is proven to exist. but without proving a large number of instances occurred, the potential for cheating is just ignored.
Democrats counting votes at 1:00AM after all observers were told to go home -- that counting is over until 8:00AM -- is something that should be prevented, not just explained away with lies and excuses.
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My hope is that the GOP is ready this year. They need to take every single questionable action exposed during the 2020 election and implement ways to monitor and expose them this year.
When huge boxes of ballots come out from under tables and cloths to be counted after observers were sent home, there needs to be a way to bring in the feds, lock the site down, and interrogate all the poll workers. The ballots are to become evidence, and video showing them feeding the same stacks of ballots in the counting machines multiple times should be used to leverage confessions.
Tired of this lawlessness. Don't piss on my head and tell me it's raining.
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The audit system is a fraud.
Real example
Chinese national in MI registered to vote and voted. Hes being charged for this. But his vote will count as they cant track his vote.
See the problem?
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The plan is working. Screw that Chinese national. They got what they wanted. And planned.
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In Iowa, the Secretary of State issued guidance to poll workers saying more than 2,000 registered voters who stated on their DMV applications they are not US citizens should be provided provisional ballots. Those ballots will remain provisional until the voters present evidence of citizenship.
I don't see anything wrong with that solution. If they have evidence that they are now US citizens, even if they were not when they applied for their license, their ballots ought to be counted. If they can't provide proof, then the provisional ballot will not be counted.
The ACLU has filed a lawsuit requesting an injunction on the Secretary of State's guidance claiming it's unconstitutional.
If the integrity of our voting system is to ever be above question, then the Left needs to stop fighting against obviously common sense solutions to merely ensure only citizens are voting. Why are they so quick to reject any method of ensuring the integrity of elections?
https://youtu.be/yyA0KEbapdY
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Here's somethign interesting. I messed up on my envelope seal. It looks like someone opened it, then re-sealed it. Yet my vote counted.
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In Cambria County, PA, voting hours were extended after issues with scanning machines.
These types of poll issues discourage people from voting, both when they've already waited and now have to wait even longer as well as those arriving and seeing a huge line that may continue well past the original polling place hours.
Let the games begin!
https://youtu.be/6OTQv4skT-c
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Another county in PA .....
Why does this always happen in swing states?
A 2 hour delay? How is that acceptable?
I imagine it's easier to "lose" ballots or claim they were "spoiled" ballots when they weren't scanned immediately.
https://youtu.be/5JxVEfwAnSA
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Here's somethign interesting. I messed up on my envelope seal. It looks like someone opened it, then re-sealed it. Yet my vote counted.
Did you get an email or something?
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Bomb threats at polling locations in Georgia and other states?
Some threats originate from Russian email domains?
None of the threats were found to be credible so far.
Also...
The FBI issued a statement Tuesday warning people of two fake videos using
the agency’s name and insignia to promote election misinformation, as concerns about
misinformation and foreign influence ramp up on Election Day.
https://www.forbes.com/sites/lindseychoo/2024/11/05/fbi-warns-of-fake-videos-election-misinformation/
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Update: poll hours in Cambria County, PA, extended until 10PM.
Always in swing states.
Pittsburg ballots were all defective, and more had to be transported there for people waiting to cast a ballot.
Did I not see numerous reports that all the machines and ballots were double checked to make sure these problems -- which plagued the 2020 election -- had been solved? How does a huge batch of ballots not get QA'ed before the polling day begins?
These instances of incompetence has become a smoke screen for cheating. I guarantee it. When ballots can't be scanned, a PERSON has to enter the votes into the system by hand. While there are observers watching the scanners, there are no observers watching the people entering the votes manually.
https://youtu.be/bFIelc_oCv4
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Update on one polling place Luzerne County, PA. Polling hours extended from 8PM until 9:30PM.
IMO, any polling place that makes people in line wait longer than an extra 30 minutes should be fined $100,000 for every additional 5 minutes. That money should be used to compensate voters who were delayed. Maybe an Amazon gift card. Christmas is fast approaching!
It's like the laws don't matter, because there's never anyone held accountable -- perhaps because some polling locations are encouraged to cause problems that create the need to manually process votes? Just speculating.
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More on the poorly-printed ballot problems causing scanners to be unable to read them.
https://youtu.be/Rb0iZgnyjrM
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remember, they're now at Plan E.
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Did you get an email or something?
No.
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Well, unless there's an obvious reversal like in 2020 at 3AM the day after election day, Trump is once again President. #45 and #47.
I guess this is what it takes -- create such a sizable lead that the other side can't muster enough phantom votes to close the gap & avoid a recount.
Kamala announced she's not going to concede until after the 2AM tallies are published.
Something tells me she's just a lit as Hillary was and can't quite manage to read a teleprompter until she sobers up!
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Went to sleep in 2020 and woke up to magic happening. The apperance of the 2am spike.
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Went to sleep in 2020 and woke up to magic happening. The apperance of the 2am spike.
Trump predicted that spike before the counting was supposedly stopped over night.
Everyone woke up to the PA numbers flipped for Biden with nobody counting ballots. Pretty neat trick!
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Border line fraud, but HI electoral votes was called for Harris before any were counted. But to be fair, Trump didn't have a chance in blue HI anyways. Which is why I say borderline.
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Border line fraud, but HI electoral votes was called for Harris before any were counted. But to be fair, Trump didn't have a chance in blue HI anyways. Which is why I say borderline.
but then they refused to call Alaska for Trump (when it was still 266) even though it was garanz-ballbearinz, and only 3 EV.
yup, that double-standard.
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Hyena shows what kind of leader she is. She left early and called off the event. At least stay and say "hey, we tried and lost. Thanks for coming". Hillary 2.0.
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Hyena shows what kind of leader she is. She left early and called off the event. At least stay and say "hey, we tried and lost. Thanks for coming". Hillary 2.0.
Yep. No class. The supporters left in tears. At the very least acknowledge their support, thank them, and show appreciation.
But no. princess kamala was butthurt so screw them. It's all about me: princess kamala. It was never about you (the American people)
True colors will always come out.
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Border line fraud, but HI electoral votes was called for Harris before any were counted. But to be fair, Trump didn't have a chance in blue HI anyways. Which is why I say borderline.
I looked into that when I first voted in HI -- state was called for the (D) before any votes were counted.
It's a prediction. Historically, there's very little chance for the state's electoral college to go for anyone other than the (D) candidates. 2016 was unexpected. One elector went with Bernie Sanders and a second would have if she'd know it was allowed -- i.e. going against the vote results. They were against casting their vote for Trump, but Hillary was such a bad candidate, they couldn't bring themselves to vote for her either after she literally screwed Bernie over to get the DNC nomination.
Unless there is polling data to the contrary, it's a given HI will cast all 4 votes for whoever the (D) is.
But, we already knew all of this. The live election maps are just accepting it as well.
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but then they refused to call Alaska for Trump (when it was still 266) even though it was garanz-ballbearinz, and only 3 EV.
yup, that double-standard.
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The media just wanted to keep the viewers from turning off the TV and going to bed. It's advertising 101.
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The media just wanted to keep the viewers from turning off the TV and going to bed. It's advertising 101.
I was watching CNN and MSNBC to see if they were ever going to push Trump to over 270. Hours after Fox and many other networks predicted Trump with at least 274-277, those two kept the tally at 266 -- barely shy of the the 270 to win.
I was thinking this was to keep their regular viewers in suspense so they'd keep watching and hoping for another 3AM swing state reversal.
You'll never get them to admit it, but it was probably done partially for the suspense, and partially due to their own denial that Trump actually won.
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I was watching CNN and MSNBC to see if they were ever going to push Trump to over 270. Hours after Fox and many other networks predicted Trump with at least 274-277, those two kept the tally at 266 -- barely shy of the the 270 to win.
I was thinking this was to keep their regular viewers in suspense so they'd keep watching and hoping for another 3AM swing state reversal.
You'll never get them to admit it, but it was probably done partially for the suspense, and partially due to their own denial that Trump actually won.
Google main page was also stuck on 246 for hours when others akready had him over 270
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I was just happy that when I woke up and checked around 5 am that there wasn't a miraculous comeback by Harris. . . Looked at CNN first.
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I also thought the same thing when I went to bed. Am I going to wake up to a (in the words of Gomer Pyle USMC):
SURPRISE, SURPRISE, SURPRISE!!!!
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I also thought the same thing when I went to bed. Am I going to wake up to a (in the words of Gomer Pyle USMC):
SURPRISE, SURPRISE, SURPRISE!!!!
Exactly! Things were looking "good" around 1000 HST. I am fighting a cold so went to bed early, but was like "WTF, not this crap again". Thankfully it wasn't.
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Exactly! Things were looking "good" around 1000 HST. I am fighting a cold so went to bed early, but was like "WTF, not this crap again". Thankfully it wasn't.
Best phrase I've heard for when you go to bed knowing Trump won
but are worried about what you'll find when you wake up:
Nauseously optimistic
(obviously a play on "Cautiously optimistic").
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Per Flapps post, she won 14 of 15 states that require no voter ID. #noteverythingisaconspiracy.
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Open Borders was planned from the beginning of the biden/harris administration.
No voter ID is the plan of a party that needs to cheat to win and retain power.
The 20 million voters that appear and disappear like magic is in their control and most likely will appear again in 2028.
Too many people were watching in 2024.
What happens in 2028 depends on making sure elections are fair, transparent, and according to law.
Oh and get rid of that f*cking mail-in ballot. And re-instate voter ID requirement to include photo.
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Open Borders was planned from the beginning of the biden/harris administration.
No voter ID is the plan of a party that needs to cheat to win and retain power.
The 20 million voters that appear and disappear like magic is in their control and most likely will appear again in 2028.
Too many people were watching in 2024.
What happens in 2028 depends on making sure elections are fair, transparent, and according to law.
Oh and get rid of that f*cking mail-in ballot. And re-instate voter ID requirement to include photo.
This was the DNC plan well before the Brandon admin.
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3am spike didnt work there. But it did in AZ.
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3am spike didnt work there. But it did in AZ.
What do you mean by it worked in AZ? i assume you mean it "succeeded," but it actually failed.
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What do you mean by it worked in AZ? i assume you mean it "succeeded," but it actually failed.
probably referring to the senate race, Kari Lake. Personally, I think it also happened in Nevada, Sam Brown. There was a suspicious spike (to me) in the ballot counting late at night, way after the polls closed.
/tinfoil hat
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probably referring to the senate race, Kari Lake. Personally, I think it also happened in Nevada, Sam Brown. There was a suspicious spike (to me) in the ballot counting late at night, way after the polls closed.
/tinfoil hat
AZ claims their laws prevent them from having the election results any sooner.
Well, who wrote their laws?
It's not that hard to figure out. If other states do it better, what's stopping lawmakers from making improvements?
The longer it takes to count the votes, the less secure the election becomes. More time = more opportunities to fiddle around with every part of the process.
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probably referring to the senate race, Kari Lake. Personally, I think it also happened in Nevada, Sam Brown. There was a suspicious spike (to me) in the ballot counting late at night, way after the polls closed.
/tinfoil hat
This. The 3am spike was similar to Brandons one in 2020.
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What's with the 330am business?
Very odd. About 40something years ago, I had to work the midnight shift.
About 3 to 4am I "hit a wall" every night.
I would get very tired and sleepy. Other guys experienced the same thing.
As it got closer to 5am, I would perk up naturally.
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If we don't remain vigilant these phantom "people" will rise up again (from the dead? :rofl:) to haunt us in 2028.
Too many people watching in 2024.
Fool me once, shame on me.
Try to fool me twice, beware the RED WAVE.
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Soon after Trump won the election, the bad people of the world stated that they wanted to cut a
deal with him. From the Houthi's, Iran, Putin, etc.. it all kinda reminds me of what Sadam Hussein
told the US soldiers when they found him in the spider hole: " I am Sadam Hussein. Let's make a deal ".
Today Trump will be meeting with Biden in the White House. We can expect Joe to make a
similar plea. I would love to be a fly on the wall in that meeting. Will Joe spill his guts on how Trump
was cheated/attacked?
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Soon after Trump won the election, the bad people of the world stated that they wanted to cut a
deal with him. From the Houthi's, Iran, Putin, etc.. it all kinda reminds me of what Sadam Hussein
told the US soldiers when they found him in the spider hole: " I am Sadam Hussein. Let's make a deal ".
Today Trump will be meeting with Biden in the White House. We can expect Joe to make a
similar plea. I would love to be a fly on the wall in that meeting. Will Joe spill his guts on how Trump
was cheated/attacked?
Hunter just this week entered a Not Guilty plea in his tax evasion trial. He already plead Guilty in the felony gun possession trial.
Any bets on Biden pardoning his son on his last day in office?
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Hunter just this week entered a Not Guilty plea in his tax evasion trial. He already plead Guilty in the felony gun possession trial.
Any bets on Biden pardoning his son on his last day in office?
If Brandon was going to pardon, then wouldn't hunter plea guilty to the tax evasion? Hurry get it done and have dad pardon.
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If Brandon was going to pardon, then wouldn't hunter plea guilty to the tax evasion? Hurry get it done and have dad pardon.
I think I may have read an older article and mistook the timing to be this month. He plead Not Guilty in June or July, but changed it to Guilty in September. Sentencing is set for Dec 16.
On December 16, Biden will be sentenced on federal tax-related charges in
Los Angeles after pleading guilty in September and avoiding a trial.
And to make things more mirky, Trump said in a radio interview that pardoning Hunter if he's re-elected is not off the table.
Former President Donald Trump has long criticized both Hunter and President Joe Biden
but recently told the radio host Hugh Hewitt that he hasn't sworn off pardoning Hunter if
he were to win the 2024 presidential election.
"I wouldn't take it off the books," Trump told the conservative radio host Hugh Hewitt in an
interview. "See, unlike Joe Biden, despite what they've done to me, where they've gone
after me so viciously ... And Hunter's a bad boy."
"There's no question about it. He's been a bad boy," Trump added. "But I happen to think
it's very bad for our country."
https://www.newsweek.com/hunter-biden-sentencing-gun-tax-evasion-charges-1976859
I think unless Biden and Trump have an agreement to have Hunter pardoned under Trump's presidency to avoid accusations of nepotism, Biden will do it himself as a final act in office regardless of his comments to the contrary. In the end, I think Hunter gets pardoned.
It's funny and ironic. If Hunter is pardoned, it reenforces the two-tier justice system theory/reality. If Biden claims to respect the judges' and juries' decisions, shouldn't Trump respect it as well? Hunter wasn't targeted out of political malice unlike Trump himself. He broke some serious laws and needs to be held accountable just like every other person in the US.
What has Hunter contributed to the country other than helping to send a few strippers and drug dealers to college? He's probably done more for Ukraine and China than the US!
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biden: Hey, I helped you by throwing kamala under the bus......
Trump: Ok. I'll pardon Hunter.......
Truthfully I feel that presidential pardons should be granted to those who have been incarcerated unlawfully or if new evidence shows they are innocent.
If you have been proven guilty, you should serve your time.
In my opinion that is what presidential pardons should be used for.
The American people must be sick of what's going on with presidential pardons.
Or maybe I just don't know enough about it to understand it.
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biden: Hey, I helped you by throwing kamala under the bus......
Trump: Ok. I'll pardon Hunter.......
Truthfully I feel that presidential pardons should be granted to those who have been incarcerated unlawfully or if new evidence shows they are innocent.
If you have been proven guilty, you should serve your time.
In my opinion that is what presidential pardons should be used for.
The American people must be sick of what's going on with presidential pardons.
Or maybe I just don't know enough about it to understand it.
Trump pardoned a bunch of black prisoners who were serving longer sentences for drug crimes than others served for manslaughter or murder.
Some pardons are intended to add balance into the justice system where the system tends to be biased or unreasonable in its application.
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I think I may have read an older article and mistook the timing to be this month. He plead Not Guilty in June or July, but changed it to Guilty in September. Sentencing is set for Dec 16.
And to make things more mirky, Trump said in a radio interview that pardoning Hunter if he's re-elected is not off the table.https://www.newsweek.com/hunter-biden-sentencing-gun-tax-evasion-charges-1976859
I think unless Biden and Trump have an agreement to have Hunter pardoned under Trump's presidency to avoid accusations of nepotism, Biden will do it himself as a final act in office regardless of his comments to the contrary. In the end, I think Hunter gets pardoned.
It's funny and ironic. If Hunter is pardoned, it reenforces the two-tier justice system theory/reality. If Biden claims to respect the judges' and juries' decisions, shouldn't Trump respect it as well? Hunter wasn't targeted out of political malice unlike Trump himself. He broke some serious laws and needs to be held accountable just like every other person in the US.
What has Hunter contributed to the country other than helping to send a few strippers and drug dealers to college? He's probably done more for Ukraine and China than the US!
I hope he doesn't pardon Hunter (Trump) if he's allowed to. They screwed Trump every day since 2016. But then maybe Trump is being diplomatic about it and pardoning a former POTUS kid is part of this. "Professional courtesy".
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It would be interesting to see if Joe will try to make a deal with the man who
wrote the book on The Art of the Deal.
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PA admits to violating their own state election laws, but they don't care since it helps the Democrat Senate candidate's chances of winning over the present Republican leader in the race.
BTW, that Senate race has already been called for the GOP candidate, McCormick, but the margin of victory was less than 0.5%, so a recount was automatically triggered. This is why the decision to count illegal ballots that do not meet the legal standards set in the state's statutes is so important. You don't do a recount by introducing more ballots. A recount by definition counts the same ballots from the first count.
They are asking for a new count under new rules, not a recount. We went through a month or more of this Democrat recount BS in 2000 until the Supreme Court finally shut it down and said the original counts stand. I suspect this might end the same way, wasting any chance the Democrats had that a fair and proper recount might have helped them.
Diane Ellis-Marseglia, one of the Democrats on the Bucks County board, voted
to count the ballots, saying that "if I violate this law, it's because I want a court
to pay attention to it."
Republicans went to court in Pennsylvania on Thursday to challenge the counting
of undated or incorrectly dated mail-in ballots as votes are still being counted in
the Senate race between Democratic incumbent Bob Casey and Republican
David McCormick.
The lawsuits from the national and Pennsylvania Republican parties are asking
the state Supreme Court to not allow Pennsylvania's counties to count mail-in
ballots where the voter didn't write a date on the return envelope, as is required
by law, or wrote an incorrect date.
The motion "to ensure that Pennsylvania's democratic process is not undermined
by the inclusion of illegal ballots in the final vote count," Republication National
Chair Chairman Michael Whatley said in a statement.
A lower court in Pennsylvania ruled that disqualifying ballots without handwritten
dates on return envelopes is unconstitutional. But the Pennsylvania Supreme Court
on November 1 granted a request from the GOP to block that decision from taking
effect.
They lost, so now the only way to cheat is in broad daylight -- because they don't like losing.
Democrats ADMIT To Illegal Ballot Counting To
STEAL PA Election w/Maureen Bannon | Timcast IRL
https://www.youtube.com/live/tPCMCUtKAM0
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I guess they got that Spirit of Aloha also, in Buck County, PA.
Diane Ellis-Marseglia, one of the Democrats, admitted she knew it was against the law, but voted to count the ballots anyway.
“I think we all know that precedent by a court doesn’t matter anymore in this country. And people violate laws anytime they want,” she said. “For me if I violate this law, it’s because I want a court to pay attention to it.”
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I guess they got that Spirit of Aloha also, in Buck County, PA.
Seems to be a common theme among Democrats. Rules for thee, but not for me.
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And we let them get away with it...then it becomes broken windows....
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So, it's happening.
Democrats are violating the law & a court order in an attempt to steal an election for the US Senate.
This is not a fight over mail-in ballots in general, but rather a fight over whether or not the people who swore to uphold the law must follow it.
There's an estimated time to complete the recount and announce the winner of the race by Nov 27. Math tells me that's 22 days, or 3 weeks & a day, after the election.
They aren't hiding it like they tried to do in 2020.. Now they brag about cheating on video and dare anyone to stop them.
Pennsylvania Democrats openly admit to counting illegal ballots
https://youtu.be/Ik5uJ49TnOA
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So, it's happening.
Democrats are violating the law & a court order in an attempt to steal an election for the US Senate.
This is not a fight over mail-in ballots in general, but rather a fight over whether or not the people who swore to uphold the law must follow it.
There's an estimated time to complete the recount and announce the winner of the race by Nov 27. Math tells me that's 22 days, or 3 weeks & a day, after the election.
They aren't hiding it like they tried to do in 2020.. Now they brag about cheating on video and dare anyone to stop them.
Pennsylvania Democrats openly admit to counting illegal ballots
https://youtu.be/Ik5uJ49TnOA
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These people want to defend Democracy, and then they openly defy the rule of law. This is one big reason they lost the election.
A second State Supreme court ruling is reassuring, but it's no different than the first one.
Election officials from 4 counties openly defied the first ruling. So, the question is, who is going to enforce this second State Supreme Court ruling for the recount?
"Precedent by a Court doesn't matter anymore in this country, and people
violate laws anytime they want. So for me, if I violate this law, it's because
I want a court to pay attention to it."
Sounds like she's applying the Aloha Principle which means courts have no place in deciding what laws are to be followed.
This is a very dangerous game, especially when some challenges can work their way through the court system for years. By then, the damage has been done.
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Three times a charm?
PA Supreme Court has now issued a 3rd court order.
All county boards of elections, including Bucks, Montgomery and
Philadelphia, were told they “shall comply with the prior rulings of
this Court in which we have clarified that mail-in and absentee ballots
that fail to comply with the requirements of Pennsylvania Election
Code ... shall not be counted for purposes of the election held on
November 5, 2024.”
“I write separately to disabuse local election officials of the notion
that they have the authority to ignore Election Code provisions that
they believe are unconstitutional,” wrote Justice Kevin Brobson in
an opinion concurring with the majority. He was joined by Justices
Sallie Mundy and David Wecht.
Pennsylvania Gov. Josh Shapiro issued a statement to The New York
Times, saying he expects election officials to follow the court’s ruling.
“The Department of State had advised counties repeatedly of their
duty to segregate challenged provisional ballots and undated ballots
in anticipation of a ruling by the court,” Shapiro said. “The court has
now ruled on the counting of these ballots specific to the Nov. 5, 2024,
election, and I expect all county election officials to adhere to this
ruling and all the applicable laws governing our elections.”
https://www.yahoo.com/news/pennsylvania-top-court-says-illegal-162711530.html?soc_src=social-sh&soc_trk=ma
So, if the counties saying they will not comply have already started their recount, and they mingled the illegal ballots in with the original ballots, i think the state should do one of two things: (1) exclude those counties' ballots from the recount and only use their original totals, or (2) stop the recount completely and certify the results already tallied.
In addition, every person in those counties which violated the law should be arrested and receive the most severe criminal charges possible with no offers of plea deals. They've already had 3 chances to avoid legal consequences after being told they were violating state election law.
Hypothetically, every single illegal ballot they would have counted represents another voter being disenfranchised. if you accept the vote of someone who did not submit a legal ballot, you are in turn canceling out the vote from someone who submitted a legal ballot but voted for the other candidate. That is election interference and a direct attack on democracy under the guise of "counting every vote." How about we just count every LEGAL vote, and quit acting like the process is too hard for all voters to get it right? It's not that hard to write the date.
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Three times a charm?
PA Supreme Court has now issued a 3rd court order.
https://www.yahoo.com/news/pennsylvania-top-court-says-illegal-162711530.html?soc_src=social-sh&soc_trk=ma
So, if the counties saying they will not comply have already started their recount, and they mingled the illegal ballots in with the original ballots, i think the state should do one of two things: (1) exclude those counties' ballots from the recount and only use their original totals, or (2) stop the recount completely and certify the results already tallied.
In addition, every person in those counties which violated the law should be arrested and receive the most severe criminal charges possible with no offers of plea deals. They've already had 3 chances to avoid legal consequences after being told they were violating state election law.
Hypothetically, every single illegal ballot they would have counted represents another voter being disenfranchised. if you accept the vote of someone who did not submit a legal ballot, you are in turn canceling out the vote from someone who submitted a legal ballot but voted for the other candidate. That is election interference and a direct attack on democracy under the guise of "counting every vote." How about we just count every LEGAL vote, and quit acting like the process is too hard for all voters to get it right? It's not that hard to write the date.
They know that there will be consequences, so why not cheat more/again.
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They know that there will be consequences, so why not cheat more/again.
If they think there's a chance to win, then the ends justifies the means -- and the consequences.
The court needs to tell them, if you cheat, your county will be disqualified.
Good luck with those lawsuits from constituents you caused to lose their legit votes. Qualified immunity should be stripped since they knowingly and willfully are violating elections policy and state law.
And enjoy the job search. Who wants to hire someone who ignores laws to push their personal agenda? Maybe guilty criminals looking for a shady defense attorney? :geekdanc:
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In more rational, common sense dictated times, any member of the government who openly challenges a court ruling would have been immediately fired and replaced.
You work for the people, and you took an oath to uphold and obey the law. You can't then decide which laws are worth following and ignore ones you believe are invalid.
The laws existed well before the election. Where were the challenges then? Only when a Republican wins does the law become unconstitutional.
Fire everyone who voted to count illegal ballots.
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(https://i.imgur.com/aVmh1Gk.jpg)
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Why did the 2024 election have such a small number of election integrity complaints compared to 2020?
Lara Trump
Co-chair of the Republican National Committee
Assumed office March 8, 2024
https://youtu.be/e8EPfhe6ZpE