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General Topics => Political Discussion => Topic started by: rpoL98 on February 28, 2025, 04:51:37 PM
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wow, that didn't go as planned, especially the last 10 minutes.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ajxSWocbye8 (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ajxSWocbye8)
(https://i.imgur.com/sMkpg3d.jpg)
and here's the Ukranian ambassador to the US (Oksana Markarova, facepalm):
(https://i.imgur.com/qXYCzDa.jpg)
I thought it was EPIC !
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here's the follow-on as President Trump was getting ready to board Marine One.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-XB4x0lQhAA (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-XB4x0lQhAA)
Zelinsky follow-on with Brett Baier on Fox News:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GfqLcBwUT_E (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GfqLcBwUT_E)
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Funniest comment I saw: Putin offers to mediate a peace deal between US and Ukraine.
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Diplomacy is similar to my favorite mantra:
Sometimes you gotta know when to save your bullets.........
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Prior to the press event with Trump, Zelinsky met with US senators from both sides.
Did he get some bad advice from those that wanted the peace deal to fail?
Zelinsky was seen wandering around for an hour after Trump ended the meeting..
Did he want to get a Mulligan?
The Obama/Biden world apology tour is over folks.
https://youtu.be/rYBco37vYjQ
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The left has been doing what they do, trump man bad.
SSHOT has turned to complain about everything trump does.
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People need to know that the US has sent more money to aid Ukraine in it's war with Russia than all of the European countries combined......
Think about that. Europe has more to lose because of this war, yet collectively, they sent less than the US in aid to Ukraine.
This is one of Trump's peeves against European countries and NATO.
Trump means it when he says America First. Obviously past administrations had other things in mind (their pocket book(s)?) ::)
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People need to know that the US has sent more money to aid Ukraine in it's war with Russia than all of the European countries combined......
Think about that. Europe has more to lose because of this war, yet collectively, they sent less than the US in aid to Ukraine.
This is one of Trump's peeves against European countries and NATO.
Trump means it when he says America First. Obviously past administrations had other things in mind (their pocket book(s)?) ::)
And Zelynskky said he doesn't know where half of it is.
The UK promised boots on the ground and aircraft if there is a ceasefire. But nothing to get to that ceasefire besides money. Of course the fake news left that part out. Need step 1 before step 2 can begin.
Before we got involed in WW1 and WW2, the UK was getting worked. I hope there's no WW3 and history repeats itself.
All Zelinskky had to do was show up and say thank you. Word is that he did have a meeting with democrat politicians prior to his meeting with Trump. I wonder if they influenced him to do what he did.
You know you messed up when you get knifehand by the VP.
When JD was saying "with all due respect", I was hoping for a Talidaga Nights type follow up.
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Everyone is either ignoring or flat out not seeing the obvious.
Zelinsky was/is nothing but another puppet in a long line of stooges installed and utilized by the US empire most recently to facilitate his country being the spear of the US imperial proxy war against Russia. Now that Trump is in power, Zelinsky obviously is confused on who he should be taking orders from. On one side you have the Power Okole that is still in-charge of the US empire and all of its vassal states in Europe and Asia behind the scenes and then you have Trump who is doing everything he can to prevent the global war the Power Okole wants.
It is clear Trump wants the US imperial army to leave NATO so WWIII at least in Europe will not happen, but we also see that the rest of the US empire's vassal states are still supporting and flirting with even military intervention against Russia. This back-and-forth game between the Power Okole and Trump is one for the ages and for everyone's sake should hope Trump wins.
The only fear I have now is that the Power Okole will grow tired of Trump's interference with their plans for WWIII and eliminate him.
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wow, only 2 commas in 4 parapgraphs...
Everyone is either ignoring or flat out not seeing the obvious.
Zelinsky was/is nothing but another puppet in a long line of stooges installed and utilized by the US empire most recently to facilitate his country being the spear of the US imperial proxy war against Russia. Now that Trump is in power, Zelinsky obviously is confused on who he should be taking orders from. On one side you have the Power Okole that is still in-charge of the US empire and all of its vassal states in Europe and Asia behind the scenes and then you have Trump who is doing everything he can to prevent the global war the Power Okole wants.
It is clear Trump wants to the US imperial army to leave NATO so WWIII at least in Europe will not happen, but we also see that the rest of the US empire's vassal states are still supporting and flirting with even military intervention against Russia. This back-and-forth game between the Power Okole and Trump is one for the ages and for everyone' sake should hope Trump wins.
The only fear I have now is that the Power Okole will grow tired of Trump's interference with their plans for WWIII and eliminate him.
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Everyone is either ignoring or flat out not seeing the obvious.
Zelinsky was/is nothing but another puppet in a long line of stooges installed and utilized by the US empire most recently to facilitate his country being the spear of the US imperial proxy war against Russia. Now that Trump is in power, Zelinsky obviously is confused on who he should be taking orders from. On one side you have the Power Okole that is still in-charge of the US empire and all of its vassal states in Europe and Asia behind the scenes and then you have Trump who is doing everything he can to prevent the global war the Power Okole wants.
It is clear Trump wants the US imperial army to leave NATO so WWIII at least in Europe will not happen, but we also see that the rest of the US empire's vassal states are still supporting and flirting with even military intervention against Russia. This back-and-forth game between the Power Okole and Trump is one for the ages and for everyone's sake should hope Trump wins.
The only fear I have now is that the Power Okole will grow tired of Trump's interference with their plans for WWIII and eliminate him.
This actually makes sense.
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In the game of political chess, Trump shows he can play it well. He is 10 steps ahead while others are still on step one.
There is no way Putin is going to tolerate Ukraine joining NATO.
Trumps idea of a minerals deal will put American companies and interests in a joint partnership to tap into the supposed mineral riches that Ukraine has. It is a start where Ukraine can start re-building their devastated country and the US can benefit from the mineral riches to off-set the billions spent helping Ukraine.
Putin would be hard pressed if not stopped from entertaining the thought of trying to invade again, because now American people, companies, and assets are established essentially on or near the border with Russia.
There is the security that Ukraine needs while achieving a ceasefire, peace, and the end of the killings of so many soldiers and civilians on both sides.
Makes me wonder if the Europeans, the demorats, and the power elite with filthy money (in my opinion Zelinsky might be one of them) in their pockets don't want peace at all.
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We should team up with Russia and go after China for infiltrating and corrupting our institutions.
Now that Europe cucked out and turned itself into an Islamic republic, Russia is the only remaining foundation of Western culture.
Plus they are pretty cool people to deal with in general as long as you don't try to invade them.
Everyone I know who went to visit Russia loved it, vs China where they report constantly being on alert for rip-offs.
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We should team up with Russia and go after China for infiltrating and corrupting our institutions.
First of all, that line of suicidal reasoning so happens to align perfectly to what the Power Okole, the neocons, and imperialists want, not to mention bring forth the global financial/economic collapse of not BRICS but the US imperial "rules-based-order".
Second, do you really think the Russian Federation would ever by willing to forgive the spilling of Russian blood as a result of the geopolitical goals of the US empire? Russia is a founding as well as one of the most powerful members of BRICS. Do you think Russia would give up its relations with China and the rest of BRICS just to become one of the vassal states of the declining US empire?
BRICS is the future; all of its current and future members from all over the free-World knows it. Moreover, Putin, Xi, and the rest of the free multipolar World knows that once Trump leaves office, its Power Okole business back to normal.
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Everyone I know who went to visit Russia loved it, vs China where they report constantly being on alert for rip-offs.
Just don’t bring drugs, except for legitimate prescription drugs, into Russia or any foreign country.
Anyone who tries to deserves to get locked up.
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We should team up with Russia and go after China for infiltrating and corrupting our institutions.
Now that Europe cucked out and turned itself into an Islamic republic, Russia is the only remaining foundation of Western culture.
Plus they are pretty cool people to deal with in general as long as you don't try to invade them.
Everyone I know who went to visit Russia loved it, vs China where they report constantly being on alert for rip-offs.
On snap. What if their plan was to take over other countries via religion? Think about it. Thousands of muslims came into Europe no questions asked (illegally). Then when people do speak out about it, they get arrested, like reporter Tommy Robinson. These invaders set up shop so big that there are "no-go" zones in various countries. Areas where muslims took over and the police dare not enter, even fire or ambulances. German politicians even denied this and called people crazy, only a few years later to admit there are no go zones, but we wont tell u where they are.
All u have to do is bribe the goverment officals at the top and they protect the invaders. They can control the flow of info and arrest anyone who speaks up.
Recently, the Irish have had enough. Their citizens are now patrolling the streets, to keep it safe for women and children.
How to conquer a population. Control the flow of info, change the religion, change the language. Look what happened to the Hawaiians. I was actually taught the Hawaiian part in high school.
They tried this in China, and China jailed the Muslims. They do the same with any new religion into their country. Falun Gong is another example. China is the extreme, but they see the writing on the wall.
The only country to admit that they messed up was Greece. At the time, Trump was warning Europe and people called him a xenophobe. Only for him to be correct years later.
They are trying to do that here too. Look how Barry let in thousands of Somali's and what happened years later, a Somali born won a seat in DC. But unlike the other countries, the US has the Bill of Rights. Saw a vid a few years ago about the Mall of America and how most of it's customers walking around were of Somali decent.
So in the US, Islam is protected to be practiced (1A). But people coming here illegally is another story.
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It's time to throw the demorat traitors in jail.
I would like to see them in GITMO.
https://youtu.be/sDXq8o3vT3U
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It's time to throw the demorat traitors in jail.
I would like to see them in GITMO.
https://youtu.be/sDXq8o3vT3U
Maybe this was 1 of the hidden benefits to DOGE. A blue traitor would tell Zelinskky to just do what we say, we will find you money.
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All the US politicians taking Chinese bribes were pro-ww3.
The CCP was using us as a proxy to attack Russia.
Hopefully the FIS has a REAL copy of the Epstein list and ends this frienemy charade.
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(https://i.imgur.com/iHH8lUd.jpg)
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All the US politicians taking Chinese bribes were pro-ww3.
So, China bribed US imperial officials in hopes they would bring upon WWIII; thereby, killing off all of China's customers that shop at Temu and Alibaba? ???
The CCP was using us as a proxy to attack Russia.
For you to even offer this notion is insulting to everyone's intelligence and something even the neocons and imperialists would dare not say.
I know the Trump administration made it clear that it wants to destroy BRICS and will try to persuade Russia in becoming one of its vassal states. But Zelinsky is the one addicted to crack and cocaine not Putin. Hence, this let's-be-friends gambit is not fooling anybody in Russia, China, or the other countries in the free World for that matter.
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The bio weapon labs in Ukraine were built by the same people who were running the program in Wuhan
Careful Russia. The CCP has no allies.
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Who ever said the mineral resource deal was ours? Hearing from a couple places that the Uk ate our lunch over there.
https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=0053lqZfA18 (https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=0053lqZfA18)
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https://youtu.be/k3jxxYG0TuU
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Zelinsky could have done better but the performance from Trump and Vance was shameful.
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After this event, Zelins went to the UK. It seems like he didn't get what he wanted, so he came back now stating peace and to make a deal with the US.
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It's time to throw the demorat traitors in jail.
I would like to see them in GITMO.
https://youtu.be/sDXq8o3vT3U
For what? Meeting with Zelinsky and advising him in a manner different than Trump's wishes wouldn't amount to a crime.
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For what? Meeting with Zelinsky and advising him in a manner different than Trump's wishes wouldn't amount to a crime.
SWOOOOSSSHHHHHHHH
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SWOOOOSSSHHHHHHHH
Covering for the fact you don't have anything smart to say?
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Covering for the fact you don't have anything smart to say?
Hahhahahha SWOOOOSSSHHH X2.
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Hahhahahha SWOOOOSSSHHH X2.
I suppose you buy into the "master negotiator" theory then? Trump acts tough on Ukraine and nice to Putin just to get Putin willing to talk? Zelinsky is a dictator who started the war but Putin abducts Ukrainian children and bombs civilian targets and he is a great guy.
Funny how Obama got eviscerated for bowing to an Arab leader but Trump gives a figurative hand-job to Putin and that is ok because it is his master negotiation skills at work. I never believed the story about Trump being on Putin's side but his actions recently have made me second guess that. Trump literally repeats Russian talking points about the war
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I suppose you buy into the "master negotiator" theory then? Trump acts tough on Ukraine and nice to Putin just to get Putin willing to talk? Zelinsky is a dictator who started the war but Putin abducts Ukrainian children and bombs civilian targets and he is a great guy.
Funny how Obama got eviscerated for bowing to an Arab leader but Trump gives a figurative hand-job to Putin and that is ok because it is his master negotiation skills at work. I never believed the story about Trump being on Putin's side but his actions recently have made me second guess that. Trump literally repeats Russian talking points about the war
I haven't followed Barry too much, so IDK what arab leader you're referring to. I"m going to assume he met with many arab leaders in his 8 year term.
I have seen some post that Zelinskky is ready to sign a deal as of 2 days ago. It involves giving up some of Ukraine, which he would have lost anyways if he were to join NATO. Not being a member of NATO, and shared revenue from minerals. IDK how true this is.
And FYI, it's not "master negotiator", it's referred to as "art of the deal".
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I haven't followed Barry too much, so IDK what arab leader you're referring to. I"m going to assume he met with many arab leaders in his 8 year term.
I have seen some post that Zelinskky is ready to sign a deal as of 2 days ago. It involves giving up some of Ukraine, which he would have lost anyways if he were to join NATO. Not being a member of NATO, and shared revenue from minerals. IDK how true this is.
And FYI, it's not "master negotiator", it's referred to as "art of the deal".
Regarding Obama's bow, Obama was meeting with some Saudi leader and he bowed. It was a big news story and it was discussed here in the context that it was inappropriate for a US leader to bow to another leader and was terrible.
Ultimately we will have to wait and see what the final deal is. Maybe Trump can work something respectable for Ukraine, maybe he can't, just have to wait and see.
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Regarding Obama's bow, Obama was meeting with some Saudi leader and he bowed. It was a big news story and it was discussed here in the context that it was inappropriate for a US leader to bow to another leader and was terrible.
Ultimately we will have to wait and see what the final deal is. Maybe Trump can work something respectable for Ukraine, maybe he can't, just have to wait and see.
I think there's nothing wrong with a bow or showing respect to a foreign leader. I'm sure many POTUS bowed to the Japan PM or like leader.
So far, everything the fake news made a big story about, ended up working out well. So if I go by their track record, then a deal will be reached that leads to peace. It's called giving the benefit of the doubt due to the fake news stories.
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Regarding Obama's bow, Obama was meeting with some Saudi leader and he bowed. It was a big news story and it was discussed here in the context that it was inappropriate for a US leader to bow to another leader and was terrible.
Ultimately we will have to wait and see what the final deal is. Maybe Trump can work something respectable for Ukraine, maybe he can't, just have to wait and see.
The problem with that bow is that Obama was educated into Islam while very young and living in Jakarta, Indonesia. He's made statements to the effect that he knows no sweeter sound than that of the call to morning prayer. He's made other statements such as how he was uniquely qualified to bring peace between the US and Middle East because of his Muslim faith and education.
Yet he continued to profess he is a Christian.
With that much uncertainty surrounding his religious beliefs, it's not good optics to be bowing to any Muslim country's leaders -- not when he's representing the most powerful nation since at least WWI. His actions are one factor in why his visit to the Middle East was labeled an Apology Tour.
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I think there's nothing wrong with a bow or showing respect to a foreign leader. I'm sure many POTUS bowed to the Japan PM or like leader.
So far, everything the fake news made a big story about, ended up working out well. So if I go by their track record, then a deal will be reached that leads to peace. It's called giving the benefit of the doubt due to the fake news stories.
I agree on the bow.
As far as a peace deal I am not going to count my eggs before they hatch. I do not approve of Trump's conduct but I must be charitable and leave room for considering maybe it is something he can pull off.
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I agree on the bow.
As far as a peace deal I am not going to count my eggs before they hatch. I do not approve of Trump's conduct but I must be charitable and leave room for considering maybe it is something he can pull off.
Well, Zelinkskky came back and agreed to a 30 day cease fire, which can be extended indefinitely. Putin has to agree to the terms now.
It's a good thing that Trump didn't act the way that you wanted him to.
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Putin has to agree to the terms now.
Does everyone in the US empire thinks the Russians are a bunch of idiots?
According to the ceasefire agreement, the US empire would resume military aid and intelligence sharing for Ukraine to obviously continue the fighting at a later date. With Russia clearly winning all over Ukraine right now, why would they accept a ceasefire just for the promised military aid from the US empire make its way to the frontlines of battle unhindered?
Nyet!
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subject-verb agreement is a thing...
Does everyone in the US empire thinks the Russians are a bunch of idiots?
According to the ceasefire agreement, the US empire would resume military aid and intelligence sharing for Ukraine to obviously continue the fighting at a later date. With Russia clearly winning all over Ukraine right now, why would they accept a ceasefire just for the promised military aid from the US empire make its way to the frontlines of battle unhindered?
Nyet!
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Careful Russia. The CCP has no allies.
You must be dying laughing now from your own statement above.
With Trump's overt alienating the US empire's so-called allies in Europe and throwing tariffs on everybody else, how can it now not be clear that it is the US empire that truly has no allies but vassal states that is to be used, abused, and discarded when they are no longer needed.
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You must be dying laughing now from your own statement above.
With Trump's overt alienating the US empire's so-called allies in Europe and throwing tariffs on everybody else, how can it now not be clear that it is the US empire that truly has no allies but vassal states that is to be used, abused, and discarded when they are no longer needed.
So, in your mind, European leaders are just a tariff or NATO past-due bill away from severing ties with the US? And then what? Join Russia? Try to replace the support the US supplies on their own?
You should read the little story of how taxes work, and how everyone suffers when the guy who has the most money is demonized.
The 10th man in the story (the richest) would be the US. The other 9 would be NATO allies.
https://www.widgetcpa.com/wp-content/uploads/2015/03/The-Tax-System-Explained-in-Beer.pdf
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So, in your mind, European leaders are just a tariff or NATO past-due bill away from severing ties with the US? And then what? Join Russia? Try to replace the support the US supplies on their own?
No, I don't see Europe joining an alliance with Russia. What I do see is a Europe finally breaking free of their vassal state status and exercising their respective nation's sovereignty. In doing so, I potentially see many European nations joining China's ever-growing Belt and Road Initiative and/or even joining BRICS to get what their citizenry needs: gas from Russia and commodities from China without worrying what the US empire says.
You should read the little story of how taxes work, and how everyone suffers when the guy who has the most money is demonized.
You mean like how the much-hated Rockefeller patriarch and Standard Oil was dismantled for the public benefit of Americans?
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No, I don't see Europe joining an alliance with Russia. What I do see is a Europe finally breaking free of their vassal state status and exercising their respective nation's sovereignty. In doing so, I potentially see many European nations joining China's ever-growing Belt and Road Initiative and/or even joining BRICS to get what their citizenry needs: gas from Russia and commodities from China without worrying what the US empire says.
You mean like how the much-hated Rockefeller patriarch and Standard Oil was dismantled for the public benefit of Americans?
I guess you decided to not read the story since your rebuttal was totally off base.
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Well, Zelinkskky came back and agreed to a 30 day cease fire, which can be extended indefinitely. Putin has to agree to the terms now.
It's a good thing that Trump didn't act the way that you wanted him to.
Is Trump now going to act tough on Putin to force him to the table as well?
How is it a good thing Trump didn't act with integrity by lying about who started the war and praising a dictator who should be in jail for his crimes?
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Is Trump now going to act tough on Putin to force him to the table as well?
How is it a good thing Trump didn't act with integrity by lying about who started the war and praising a dictator who should be in jail for his crimes?
Why must you feel the need to add "acting tough"? Your post here really adds nothing to the convo but you looking like a fool. For every negotiation, each person must act in the way that gives it the best chance for success. I remember when the fake news made it a big deal about N.Korea and how Trump said "his button is bigger and it works". Shortly later, KJU is shaking hands and a cease fire with S. Korea happened. There was even meetings of regular N and S soliders.
What ever Trump did with Zelkins and JD as well, worked out cause he came back. IDK why you're now adding in "integrity" to the question as that was never an issue. We call this goal post moving cause you know that what Trump did worked and won't admit it like usual.
IDK what it will take for Putin to come to the bargaining table, but I have trust in The Art of the Deal. You should too.
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Update: Putin is reviewing the terms. No word yet if he agrees or wants to amend.
So once again EEF added something that wasn't needed about "acting tough".
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Putin wants to discuss some issues, but didn't specify. In the mean time, Zelinskky is poking the bear with his lack of diplomacy,
"Putin “is afraid to tell President Trump directly that he wants to continue this war, that he wants to kill Ukrainians,” Zelenskyy said in his nightly address to the nation. “That is why, in Moscow, they are surrounding the idea of a ceasefire with such preconditions that nothing will come of it — or at least, it will be delayed as long as possible.”"
This is the 2nd time that Zelinkky couldn't keep his mouth shut recently. This is what happens when an actor is elected who has weak leadership.
Update: Russia stated that they want long term peace. But nothing released on what they want in order to maintain that.
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i think Putin wanted protections for Russian-speaking people in Ukraine.
so the Ukrainian Parliament is trying to pass a law to make it illegal to speak Russian in Ukraine.
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i think Putin wanted protections for Russian-speaking people in Ukraine.
so the Ukrainian Parliament is trying to pass a law to make it illegal to speak Russian in Ukraine.
I think Putin wants a guarantee that he'll have direct land access to Crimea. That's a very important strategic military and economic objective I'd think.
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Zelinskky still talking shit. It's like this guy doesn't want peace. Poking the bear comes to mind.
So add in his attitude at the WH and now multiple interviews talking shit after the peace deal
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Zelinskky still talking shit. It's like this guy doesn't want peace. Poking the bear comes to mind.
So add in his attitude at the WH and now multiple interviews talking shit after the peace deal
It's not peace its surrender. He witnessed this many times Russia just uses it to recalibrate and invade again.
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It's not peace its surrender. He witnessed this many times Russia just uses it to recalibrate and invade again.
Until Russia decides to break the peace agreement, it's peace. Surrendering would imply that Russia would have control of Ukraine.
You need to also be aware that the UK only promised troops and aircraft when peace is reached. So there's those additional forces to help prevent Russia from invading again. And until peace is reached, the UK won't do those things.
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You need to also be aware that the UK only promised troops and aircraft when peace is reached. So there's those additional forces to help prevent Russia from invading again. And until peace is reached, the UK won't do those things.
Putin made clear on numerous occasions that any military forces that come from the US empire or NATO are not acceptable and may be subject to being destroyed if stationed in Ukraine.
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Putin made clear on numerous occasions that any military forces that come from the US empire or NATO are not acceptable and may be subject to being destroyed if stationed in Ukraine.
He may have said that in the past, but this is now. I mean, the media didn't disclose what part of the peace deal he didn't like. So that could be 1 part of it.
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He may have said that in the past, but this is now. I mean, the media didn't disclose what part of the peace deal he didn't like. So that could be 1 part of it.
Don't question the forum's political SME. He knows things nobody else knows.
:shaka: :geekdanc: :rofl:
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Don't question the forum's political SME. He knows things nobody else knows.
:shaka: :geekdanc: :rofl:
Funny how you make accusations of exactly what you think yourself to be. :geekdanc:
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He may have said that in the past, but this is now. I mean, the media didn't disclose what part of the peace deal he didn't like. So that could be 1 part of it.
If you subscribe to the mainstream democrat or republican leaning media, that may be well what they are sharing.
However, if you review the foreign media not aligned with the US empire or even the domestic independent media, you may get a far more accurate assessment to what is the Russian position to any ceasefire or peace deals regarding the US imperial proxy war against Russia.
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Funny how you make accusations of exactly what you think yourself to be. :geekdanc:
Funny how you didn't deny the accusation.
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If you subscribe to the mainstream democrat or republican leaning media, that may be well what they are sharing.
However, if you review the foreign media not aligned with the US empire or even the domestic independent media, you may get a far more accurate assessment to what is the Russian position to any ceasefire or peace deals regarding the US imperial proxy war against Russia.
Why did you choose not to share any of those more accurate assessment sources with us?
Links would be helpful.
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If you subscribe to the mainstream democrat or republican leaning media, that may be well what they are sharing.
However, if you review the foreign media not aligned with the US empire or even the domestic independent media, you may get a far more accurate assessment to what is the Russian position to any ceasefire or peace deals regarding the US imperial proxy war against Russia.
Can you post the specifics of what Russia is disputing in the peace deal?
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Funny how you didn't deny the accusation.
Why should I address something that I never referred myself as being? ???
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Can you post the specifics of what Russia is disputing in the peace deal?
We should wait to hear from Putin himself after his meeting with Trump tomorrow.
However, there are many non-US and domestic sources that essentially share the same thing. Below is Judge Napolitano's recent meeting with Russian Foreign Minister Sergey Lavrov which is one such source.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nNJOUy_luDM
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Why should I address something that I never referred myself as being? ???
For the same reason you addressed me as something I never referred to myself as being.
Duh.
And again, you failed to deny the accusation. So whether or not you "referred to yourself as being," it's normal to respond to someone when they accuse you of being something you aren't.
The lack of denial is deafening.
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We should wait to hear from Putin himself after his meeting with Trump tomorrow.
However, there are many non-US and domestic sources that essentially share the same thing. Below is Judge Napolitano's recent meeting with Russian Foreign Minister Sergey Lavrov which is one such source.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nNJOUy_luDM
Did you watch the entire video? It's an hour and a half long.
Which parts of the video answers our questions?
Also, how is Judge Napolitano considered a non-US source? I specifically asked for your non-US sources.
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Why must you feel the need to add "acting tough"?
Because Trump likes to act tough. I figured that was obvious.
Your post here really adds nothing to the convo but you looking like a fool. For every negotiation, each person must act in the way that gives it the best chance for success. I remember when the fake news made it a big deal about N.Korea and how Trump said "his button is bigger and it works". Shortly later, KJU is shaking hands and a cease fire with S. Korea happened. There was even meetings of regular N and S soliders.
I forgot how much you believe in Trump's master negotiator status BS. But maybe you are right, every negotiation the person must act in a way that gives the best chance for success. We will see if Trump's coddling of Putin's balls was what it really took.
What ever Trump did with Zelkins and JD as well, worked out cause he came back. IDK why you're now adding in "integrity" to the question as that was never an issue. We call this goal post moving cause you know that what Trump did worked and won't admit it like usual.
So you don't care about integrity in a president. Gotcha.
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Because Trump likes to act tough. I figured that was obvious.
I forgot how much you believe in Trump's master negotiator status BS. But maybe you are right, every negotiation the person must act in a way that gives the best chance for success. We will see if Trump's coddling of Putin's balls was what it really took.
So you don't care about integrity in a president. Gotcha.
U forgot what I posed about "integrity" and then further made yourself look foolish again by using "gotcha".
This is what happens when you move goal post and refuse to admit when wrong when presented with facts, you forget things. You should know better, when interviewing or interrogating someone, a lie is hard to rememeber. Same same.
BTW, it did workout because both are talking about peace. So "gotcha".
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Because Trump likes to act tough. I figured that was obvious.
I forgot how much you believe in Trump's master negotiator status BS. But maybe you are right, every negotiation the person must act in a way that gives the best chance for success. We will see if Trump's coddling of Putin's balls was what it really took.
So you don't care about integrity in a president. Gotcha.
Trump holds the most powerful elected position in the world -- again.
He's not "acting tough." He's fulfilling his role. Stop whining and post something that's better than Orange Man bad.
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U forgot what I posed about "integrity" and then further made yourself look foolish again by using "gotcha".
This is what happens when you move goal post and refuse to admit when wrong when presented with facts, you forget things. You should know better, when interviewing or interrogating someone, a lie is hard to rememeber. Same same.
BTW, it did workout because both are talking about peace. So "gotcha".
I was unaware that your coddling of Trump's balls amounted to facts in your mind.
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Trump holds the most powerful elected position in the world -- again.
He's not "acting tough." He's fulfilling his role. Stop whining and post something that's better than Orange Man bad.
Fulfilling what role? Making the USA look bad? Praising a dictator and blaming the start of the war on the country that was invaded?
Trump could take a dumb in the oval office and you would find a way of turning it into an example of his brilliance.
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I was unaware that your coddling of Trump's balls amounted to facts in your mind.
Annnddd right on que. Cant admit hes wrong, so refers to homosexual statements. Thanks for playing.
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Fulfilling what role? Making the USA look bad? Praising a dictator and blaming the start of the war on the country that was invaded?
Trump could take a dumb in the oval office and you would find a way of turning it into an example of his brilliance.
Fulling the role of making fools look more foolish all by themselves. Read above "acting tough" post.
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I was unaware that your coddling of Trump's balls amounted to facts in your mind.
Your objectivity has died a slow and painful death.
On the plus side, it was already on life support.
#MercyKilling
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Fulfilling what role? Making the USA look bad? Praising a dictator and blaming the start of the war on the country that was invaded?
Trump could take a dumb in the oval office and you would find a way of turning it into an example of his brilliance.
Obama and Biden took care of making the US look bad with never-ending wars and the Weekend at Biden's for 4 years.
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i think you've already cornered the market in taking a dumb...
Fulfilling what role? Making the USA look bad? Praising a dictator and blaming the start of the war on the country that was invaded?
Trump could take a dumb in the oval office and you would find a way of turning it into an example of his brilliance.
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i think you've already cornered the market in taking a dumb...
He's not stopping at one. He's .taking a dumb and dumber.
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Fulling the role of making fools look more foolish all by themselves. Read above "acting tough" post.
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You are the one trying to dress up a turd by claiming despicable behavior is good negotiation.
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Your objectivity has died a slow and painful death.
On the plus side, it was already on life support.
#MercyKilling
Swoosh
Objectivity doesn't mean I can't have opinions.
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Obama and Biden took care of making the US look bad with never-ending wars and the Weekend at Biden's for 4 years.
#whataboutism
Not sure if you realize it but criticizing Trump doesn't mean I can't also criticize Biden and Obama right?
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#whataboutism
Not sure if you realize it but criticizing Trump doesn't mean I can't also criticize Biden and Obama right?
you need to learn the difference between rationalizing what Trump is doing and defending what he does by using what others did as examples of what should not be done. Trump isn't doing anything near what others have done.
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You are the one trying to dress up a turd by claiming despicable behavior is good negotiation.
Hahaha proving my point as i thought u would. Thanks for playing.
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Swoosh
Objectivity doesn't mean I can't have opinions.
Hahahha "objectivity" aka whataboutism.
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you need to learn the difference between rationalizing what Trump is doing and defending what he does by using what others did as examples of what should not be done. Trump isn't doing anything near what others have done.
Doing something bad isn't more or less bad based on what others have gotten away with. If you compromise your principles because the other side goes low then you have no principles.
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Doing something bad isn't more or less bad based on what others have gotten away with. If you compromise your principles because the other side goes low then you have no principles.
Based on your definition above, you are 100% against using lethal force to defend yourself against a lethal threat.
in principle, if killing someone is wrong, how can you justify killing someone you merely believe is a threat? Maybe they only shot you because they saw you as a threat when you tried to defend yourself?
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Based on your definition above, you are 100% against using lethal force to defend yourself against a lethal threat.
in principle, if killing someone is wrong, how can you justify killing someone you merely believe is a threat? Maybe they only shot you because they saw you as a threat when you tried to defend yourself?
Non-sequitur.
I never said killing someone is wrong.
You are trying to justify Trump's actions by pointing to bad things the Democrats have done. That doesn't make what Trump does ok.
If you are playing against another team in sports and they cheat, do you cheat too or do you maintain your integrity and refuse to cheat?
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Non-sequitur.
I never said killing someone is wrong.
You are trying to justify Trump's actions by pointing to bad things the Democrats have done. That doesn't make what Trump does ok.
If you are playing against another team in sports and they cheat, do you cheat too or do you maintain your integrity and refuse to cheat?
I can tell you what I wouldn’t do. I wouldn’t make any “good faith” concessions for the people who tried to kill me.
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I can tell you what I wouldn’t do. I wouldn’t make any “good faith” concessions for the people who tried to kill me.
Not sure what good faith concessions you are referring to.
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Not sure what good faith concessions you are referring to.
Did you skip right over the word "any"? It's significant to the meaning.
I can tell you what I wouldn’t do. I wouldn’t make any “good faith” concessions for the people who tried to kill me.
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Doing something bad isn't more or less bad based on what others have gotten away with. If you compromise your principles because the other side goes low then you have no principles.
Bad? You've shown your morality to be situational -- changing with the circumstances (it depends). That's not principled. That's Liberalism.
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Bad? You've shown your morality to be situational -- changing with the circumstances (it depends). That's not principled. That's Liberalism.
You can't defeat the argument so you have to attack my use of "depends"
I'll take that over your whataboutism
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You can't defeat the argument so you have to attack my use of "depends"
I'll take that over your whataboutism
Hahahahhahaa. Someones ego is kicking in more than usual today.
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Hahahahhahaa. Someones ego is kicking in more than usual today.
Awww, did your ego get hurt?
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Awww, did your ego get hurt?
OMG, you're still trying to play. Hahahhahahahah.
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OMG, you're still trying to play. Hahahhahahahah.
I am just waiting for you to bring out the banger "I know you are but what am I" since that is you style.
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I am just waiting for you to bring out the banger "I know you are but what am I" since that is you style.
Wrong again. U try to be funny, but end up being wrong...again.
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Wrong again. U try to be funny, but end up being wrong...again.
It would be interesting to see in your mind and find out how you think these comebacks are worth anything.
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It would be interesting to see in your mind and find out how you think these comebacks are worth anything.
I thought you can read minds? Now you can't? Figures.
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It would be interesting to see in your mind and find out how you think these comebacks are worth anything.
SWOOOOSSSHHHHHH
Hahahahhaha