You must be dying laughing now from your own statement above.

With Trump's overt alienating the US empire's so-called allies in Europe and throwing tariffs on everybody else, how can it now not be clear that it is the US empire that truly has no allies but vassal states that is to be used, abused, and discarded when they are no longer needed.

So, in your mind, European leaders are just a tariff or NATO past-due bill away from severing ties with the US?  And then what?  Join Russia?  Try to replace the support the US supplies on their own?

You should read the little story of how taxes work, and how everyone suffers when the guy who has the most money is demonized.

The 10th man in the story (the richest) would be the US.  The other 9 would be NATO allies.

https://www.widgetcpa.com/wp-content/uploads/2015/03/The-Tax-System-Explained-in-Beer.pdf

So, in your mind, European leaders are just a tariff or NATO past-due bill away from severing ties with the US?  And then what?  Join Russia?  Try to replace the support the US supplies on their own?

No, I don't see Europe joining an alliance with Russia.  What I do see is a Europe finally breaking free of their vassal state status and exercising their respective nation's sovereignty.  In doing so, I potentially see many European nations joining China's ever-growing Belt and Road Initiative and/or even joining BRICS to get what their citizenry needs: gas from Russia and commodities from China without worrying what the US empire says.

You should read the little story of how taxes work, and how everyone suffers when the guy who has the most money is demonized.

You mean like how the much-hated Rockefeller patriarch and Standard Oil was dismantled for the public benefit of Americans?

No, I don't see Europe joining an alliance with Russia.  What I do see is a Europe finally breaking free of their vassal state status and exercising their respective nation's sovereignty.  In doing so, I potentially see many European nations joining China's ever-growing Belt and Road Initiative and/or even joining BRICS to get what their citizenry needs: gas from Russia and commodities from China without worrying what the US empire says.


You mean like how the much-hated Rockefeller patriarch and Standard Oil was dismantled for the public benefit of Americans?

I guess you decided to not read the story since your rebuttal was totally off base.

Well, Zelinkskky came back and agreed to a 30 day cease fire, which can be extended indefinitely.  Putin has to agree to the terms now.

It's a good thing that Trump didn't act the way that you wanted him to.

Is Trump now going to act tough on Putin to force him to the table as well?

How is it a good thing Trump didn't act with integrity by lying about who started the war and praising a dictator who should be in jail for his crimes?

Is Trump now going to act tough on Putin to force him to the table as well?

How is it a good thing Trump didn't act with integrity by lying about who started the war and praising a dictator who should be in jail for his crimes?

Why must you feel the need to add "acting tough"?  Your post here really adds nothing to the convo but you looking like a fool.  For every negotiation, each person must act in the way that gives it the best chance for success.  I remember when the fake news made it a big deal about N.Korea and how Trump said "his button is bigger and it works".  Shortly later, KJU is shaking hands and a cease fire with S. Korea happened.  There was even meetings of regular N and S soliders.

What ever Trump did with Zelkins and JD as well, worked out cause he came back.  IDK why you're now adding in "integrity" to the question as that was never an issue.  We call this goal post moving cause you know that what Trump did worked and won't admit it like usual.

IDK what it will take for Putin to come to the bargaining table, but I have trust in The Art of the Deal. You should too.

Update: Putin is reviewing the terms.  No word yet if he agrees or wants to amend.

So once again EEF added something that wasn't needed about "acting tough".

Putin wants to discuss some issues, but didn't specify.  In the mean time, Zelinskky is poking the bear with his lack of diplomacy,

"Putin “is afraid to tell President Trump directly that he wants to continue this war, that he wants to kill Ukrainians,” Zelenskyy said in his nightly address to the nation. “That is why, in Moscow, they are surrounding the idea of a ceasefire with such preconditions that nothing will come of it — or at least, it will be delayed as long as possible.”"

This is the 2nd time that Zelinkky couldn't keep his mouth shut recently.  This is what happens when an actor is elected who has weak leadership.


Update: Russia stated that they want long term peace.  But nothing released on what they want in order to maintain that. 

i think Putin wanted protections for Russian-speaking people in Ukraine.

so the Ukrainian Parliament is trying to pass a law to make it illegal to speak Russian in Ukraine.

i think Putin wanted protections for Russian-speaking people in Ukraine.

so the Ukrainian Parliament is trying to pass a law to make it illegal to speak Russian in Ukraine.

I think Putin wants a guarantee that he'll have direct land access to Crimea.  That's a very important strategic military and economic objective I'd think.

Zelinskky still talking shit.  It's like this guy doesn't want peace. Poking the bear comes to mind.

So add in his attitude at the WH and now multiple interviews talking shit after the peace deal

Zelinskky still talking shit.  It's like this guy doesn't want peace. Poking the bear comes to mind.

So add in his attitude at the WH and now multiple interviews talking shit after the peace deal

It's not peace its surrender.   He witnessed this many times Russia just uses it to recalibrate and invade again.   

It's not peace its surrender.   He witnessed this many times Russia just uses it to recalibrate and invade again.

Until Russia decides to break the peace agreement, it's peace.  Surrendering would imply that Russia would have control of Ukraine.

You need to also be aware that the UK only promised troops and aircraft when peace is reached.  So there's those additional forces to help prevent Russia from invading again. And until peace is reached, the UK won't do those things.

You need to also be aware that the UK only promised troops and aircraft when peace is reached.  So there's those additional forces to help prevent Russia from invading again. And until peace is reached, the UK won't do those things.

Putin made clear on numerous occasions that any military forces that come from the US empire or NATO are not acceptable and may be subject to being destroyed if stationed in Ukraine.

Putin made clear on numerous occasions that any military forces that come from the US empire or NATO are not acceptable and may be subject to being destroyed if stationed in Ukraine.

He may have said that in the past, but this is now. I mean, the media didn't disclose what part of the peace deal he didn't like.  So that could be 1 part of it.

He may have said that in the past, but this is now. I mean, the media didn't disclose what part of the peace deal he didn't like.  So that could be 1 part of it.

Don't question the forum's political SME.  He knows things nobody else knows.

 

Don't question the forum's political SME.  He knows things nobody else knows.

 

Funny how you make accusations of exactly what you think yourself to be.   

He may have said that in the past, but this is now. I mean, the media didn't disclose what part of the peace deal he didn't like.  So that could be 1 part of it.

If you subscribe to the mainstream democrat or republican leaning media, that may be well what they are sharing.

However, if you review the foreign media not aligned with the US empire or even the domestic independent media, you may get a far more accurate assessment to what is the Russian position to any ceasefire or peace deals regarding the US imperial proxy war against Russia. 

Funny how you make accusations of exactly what you think yourself to be.   

Funny how you didn't deny the accusation.

If you subscribe to the mainstream democrat or republican leaning media, that may be well what they are sharing.

However, if you review the foreign media not aligned with the US empire or even the domestic independent media, you may get a far more accurate assessment to what is the Russian position to any ceasefire or peace deals regarding the US imperial proxy war against Russia.

Why did you choose not to share any of those more accurate assessment sources with us?

Links would be helpful.

If you subscribe to the mainstream democrat or republican leaning media, that may be well what they are sharing.

However, if you review the foreign media not aligned with the US empire or even the domestic independent media, you may get a far more accurate assessment to what is the Russian position to any ceasefire or peace deals regarding the US imperial proxy war against Russia.

Can you post the specifics of what Russia is disputing in the peace deal?