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General Topics => Off Topic => Topic started by: QUIETShooter on September 22, 2025, 07:29:13 PM
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What do you think? Am I on point here?
Unbelievable what's going on out there on the internet.
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What do you think? Am I on point here?
Unbelievable what's going on out there on the internet.
After all the Cop body cam videos i've watched the last few weeks, I have to say there are people in the country who thInk they know their rights and are willing to fight Cops to get their way.
This is being taught in schools. Kids get out of class to go to protests for Liberal causes. The same is not true for Conservative causes.
ANTIFA was hatched on college campuses using kids who were happily living off their parents or student loans. Once the reality of making their own money slapped them in the collective face, they began looking for some way to live under the lies they were fed. Paid protestor? Why not?
History shows that there's a formula for starting a civil war, and that civil war is how people fundamentally change their country.
Those are the words Obama used:.
Here’s Obama’s original statement, in an October 2008 campaign visit to Columbia, Mo:
"Now, Mizzou, I just have two words for you tonight: five days. Five days.
After decades of broken politics in Washington, and eight years of failed
policies from George W. Bush, and 21 months of a campaign that's taken
us from the rocky coast of Maine to the sunshine of California, we are five
days away from fundamentally transforming the United States of America."
You don't seek to fundamentally transform a nation unless you first destroy that nation. Unless people are totally pissed at their lives, they have no reason to want to see significant changes to the foundation of the nation.
If you can convince 500 million people that a senile man is a better choice than a lifelong successful businessman, then you can also convince them that the only way to obtain the changes needed to make the country better is to eliminate the opposition.
Our US Civil War would not have happened if the Federal Government had allowed the states the option of seceding from the union and forming their own collection of states. One could argue that one decision not only caused that civil war, but the current situation might have been the result of that war and the cause of the next one.
imagine if half the nation lived on one side of the continent, and the other half lived on the other side. Each can have their own constitution. No guns allowed on the Left Coast, but gun rights protected on the Right Coast. An illegal alien sanctuary on the Left, and secured borders on the Right. Transgender affirming care paid for by the state on the Left, but not on the Right. Trans athletes can compete in women's sports on the Left, but not on the Right.
Make a list of every issues the Left champions, and they would have the power to make those things reality. On the Right, they would also have the power to govern as the majority sees fit.
If someone on the Right wanted to switch sides, they would be welcomed across the Left's open borders. Entry into the Right side would be strictly controlled and visas enforced.
So, yeah. Having already divided the nation instead of having a war might have worked better in the long term. Slavery would have died long ago regardless, because it's really not needed to make a profit and most Western nations abolished it without a war.
Great thought experiment. Which side will have been more prosperous? Would there be a 2 party system on the Left, or more like Socialism? Would the right have any Liberals living there and running for office, or would the Right expect them to immigrate to the Left? Would we be able to stop the infiltration of Leftism into the Right side, or is it inevitable? Will we make better laws that protect our values, or keep making the same mistakes that brought us here?
It almost reminds me of East and West Berlin. The Socialist side failed (East), in case you need to be reminded. :thumbsup:
A wall had to be built and guarded to stop people from fleeing East Berlin. Imagine that. :geekdanc:
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What do you think? Am I on point here?
Unbelievable what's going on out there on the internet.
No. All that’s changed is that they’re now uncontrollably showing what they really are. Started with Covid, now with Trump reelected in a national landslide, after they did their level best to destroy him with one Soviet-style show trial after another, they are in an existential crisis. The entire country is now starting to hunt them.
This why they are becoming increasingly violent.
All we have to do is keep on keeping on, and every day, pound that wooden stake further through their black hearts.
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If you think folks are not handling it well now wait until the market nukes.
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If you think folks are not handling it well now wait until the market nukes.
Market? What is this thing you call “market”?
If NASA announces tonight that they have discovered a huge object on an unavoidable collision path with earth, which will surely result in a planetary extinction event, the “market” will be limit-up when futures open, ‘cause emergency Fed rate cut on deck…
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So many different ways to approach that question. In some ways definitely, in other ways not at all.
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So many different ways to approach that question. In some ways definitely, in other ways not at all.
Useless answer.
Care to elaborate, or were you just trying to appear included?
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"adding nuance"
because in his/her/it's mind "maybe it it, maybe it isn't" is nuance...
Useless answer.
Care to elaborate, or were you just trying to appear included?
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I'd say half has and the other hasn't. Ill let you guess which side.
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Useless answer.
Care to elaborate, or were you just trying to appear included?
Vague question gets a useless answer .
Do I need to feel included? Nope, you already make me feel included every time you troll me :thumbsup:
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Vague question gets a useless answer .
Do I need to feel included? Nope, you already make me feel included every time you troll me :thumbsup:
Projection is a real "thing".
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Vague question gets a useless answer .
Do I need to feel included? Nope, you already make me feel included every time you troll me :thumbsup:
Someone doesn't know what "troll" means.
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Vague question gets a useless answer .
Vague question? Then don't respond, your highness.
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Vague question? Then don't respond, your highness.
LOL! That's like telling a fish not to breathe water.
Also, he didn't answer my question. I asked for him to elaborate. Instead, he gets snarky.
The question was from the OP (you). Just making that clear in case people thought I posted a vague question.
His response was more vague than the question, and 100% ambiguous.
In other words, useless!
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What we are experiencing is the political parties asserting control over the population for power. Americans are void of critical thinking anymore and because of ubiquitous social media we react on feelings. It's the easy button. Call someone a "Nazi" and peoples' heads explode. Rage. No stepping back when that is released. All critical thought is washed away. Problem is that political elites have been hitting that button every time they need to rally support or don't have an answer.
We lost our minds and principles.
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We lost our minds and principles.
Don’t forget our access to cheap energy. Pretty soon we are going to find out what a gallon of gas really costs, and the communists are busy trying to lock everything down so they can maintain control when it happens.
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What we are experiencing is the political parties asserting control over the population for power. Americans are void of critical thinking anymore and because of ubiquitous social media we react on feelings. It's the easy button. Call someone a "Nazi" and peoples' heads explode. Rage. No stepping back when that is released. All critical thought is washed away. Problem is that political elites have been hitting that button every time they need to rally support or don't have an answer.
We lost our minds and principles.
I think it’s important to remember that the vicious slanders of “Nazi” & “Fascist” being trotted out again against all those who wish to conform our current government to our country’s founding principles and the rule of law (rather than the shadow deep state globalist/Marxist tyranny seeking to seize all levers of power) are Communist terms. I.e. those using them are clearly and unequivocally Communist useful idiots herded by the larger tyranny mentioned above.
In other words, it’s not WE who have lost our minds and principles. Rather we have an implacable enemy at war with us who wants to destroy our country and civilization, and drag us back into slavery.
It is Communist ideology that they are using to accomplish this here. Check out the stats on the percentage of college age people who somehow now believe Socialism is the answer - something like 50%.
https://nypost.com/2025/09/21/us-news/many-college-students-praise-cuba-over-us-poll-shows/
This does not happen by accident - I believe things are getting pretty clear here for everyone.
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We could be using all this wasted energy towards inventing real stuff. You know things we haven't invented before. Get off social media and create a warp drive...or time machine...
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Humanity is a broad concept.
What I see is too many in the country who are:
offended by everything others do,
embarrassed by nothing they do,
and are entitled to whatever they want or need.
The government categorizes various victims into classes by race, gender, skin tone, sexual preferences, age, and now mental illnesses (gender dysphoria).
The common denominator is they can all claim to be part of the largest protected class in the country: The Victim Class.
Victims not only get a pass on bad behavior and poor judgement, they also are entitled to anything they demand. Doesn't matter if it's the government providing housing, food, healthcare, or cell phones. it can also be private businesses where you shoplift or squat in someone's house without owing a cent.
It always comes to the haves vs. the have nots, but in this iteration, the have nots are unwilling to even try to support themselves. They've seen too many examples of how people can game the systems in place to help those truly in need.
I don't know that you can label that a problem with humanity from the "victims'" perspective, but it is a problem from the "free stuff and services" side. The less you require of people in oder to receive basic needs, the fewer that will offer to try and earn those basic needs themselves. No different than feeding stray cats. Are you being charitable, or are you preventing them from learning how to fend for themselves?
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We could be using all this wasted energy towards inventing real stuff. You know things we haven't invented before. Get off social media and create a warp drive...or time machine...
The vast majority of American warfare over the past century has been an elaborate money laundering scheme. So was covid, TARP, Obamacare, etc. Basically every time you hear someone say “omg it’s an emergency we need to print more money” it’s time to preemptively bust out out the anal lube because we’re about to get…
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This is what we get when the people choose a senile, lifelong political crime family boss over a man who said offensive words.
When you see politicians getting rich during their "public service," and hard working Americans are being forced to pay more and more for federal, state and local taxes, it's easy to start wondering why you're working so hard and stressing out over living expenses while the people taking your money are living the life of luxury.
At $1 trillion, Biden-Harris the most
wasteful administration ever
The Congressional Budget Office (CBO) recently announced that the
2024 fiscal-year federal budget deficit — the amount the government
spent over and above what it received in total revenue — was $1.8 trillion.
That makes the Biden-Harris administration by far the biggest deficit
spenders in modern history. Worse yet, Biden-Harris also wasted more
money than any other administration, roughly $1 trillion, according to the
Government Accountability Office (GAO).
The Biden-Harris four-year deficit total was $7.65 trillion — roughly 50
percent more than Donald Trump’s four-year deficit total of $5.56 trillion,
and that figure included $3.13 trillion spent in FY2020, the first year of the
pandemic. Had Trump’s fourth year deficit been in the general range of
his first three years, his total deficit spending would have been about $3.25
trillion, less than half of Biden-Harris’s actual four-year deficit.
To be sure, some of the Biden-Harris deficit spending was also because
of the pandemic, but then Biden used the pandemic as a catch-all excuse
to ladle out money he was eager to spend anyway.
But with great spending should come increased efforts to minimize fraud
and waste. And that’s where Biden-Harris really failed. Last April the GAO
released its “improper payments” assessment, and Team Biden has the
dubious distinction of wasting more taxpayer money than any previous
administration.
“Improper payments” aren’t all fraud, though fraud makes up a significant
portion. The GAO defines improper payments as “those [payments] that
should not have been made or were made in the incorrect amount.” So, for
example, if Medicare overpaid a hospital for its services, that would be an
improper overpayment. But there is also a lot of outright fraud in health care
and several other federal programs, areas where payments “should not have
been made.”
The GAO says that in FY2023, Medicare and Medicaid together accounted
for more than $100 billion in improper payments. Another $43.6 billion in
improper payments went to Pandemic Unemployment Assistance, $21.9 billion
was for the Earned Income Tax Credit, and $18.7 billion was for the Paycheck
Protection loan forgiveness program.
https://thehill.com/opinion/4933701-biden-harris-deficit-spending/
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Vague question? Then don't respond, your highness.
It is an interesting question, you just need to narrow it down a bit. If you don't want to take a friendly suggestion I certainly can't and wont force you to do so.
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What we are experiencing is the political parties asserting control over the population for power. Americans are void of critical thinking anymore and because of ubiquitous social media we react on feelings. It's the easy button. Call someone a "Nazi" and peoples' heads explode. Rage. No stepping back when that is released. All critical thought is washed away. Problem is that political elites have been hitting that button every time they need to rally support or don't have an answer.
We lost our minds and principles.
I hesitate to think human behavior has evolved that quickly that we lose critical thought. I wonder if the speed and breadth at which we receive information (cell phones, social media, etc) is what causes what we are seeing. A small population or ideology can seem so much bigger and scarier these days.
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I hesitate to think human behavior has evolved that quickly that we lose critical thought.
Hahahahhaa.
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It is an interesting question, you just need to narrow it down a bit. If you don't want to take a friendly suggestion I certainly can't and wont force you to do so.
I didn't think your suggestion was friendly. Maybe it's just me.
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I didn't think your suggestion was friendly. Maybe it's just me.
I nearly always approach a fresh conversation from a positive or neutral angle. I do not bring any baggage from previous debates/disagreements/discussions.
To answer your original general question I would so no, we are not losing our humanity, generally speaking.
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I nearly always approach a fresh conversation from a positive or neutral angle. I do not bring any baggage from previous debates/disagreements/discussions.
To answer your original general question I would so no, we are not losing our humanity, generally speaking.
Wow. i think we're seeing the real problem now:
So many different ways to approach that question. In some ways definitely, in other ways not at all.
in neither post did you bother to offer any discussion whatsoever -- only your answers.
Your conclusions appear inconsistent, if not contradictory. You started out with "yes and no," but now you are answering "no."
Without context, it would appear none of us knows what your answer is -- including yourself!
:wacko:
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Wow. i think we're seeing the real problem now:
in neither post did you bother to offer any discussion whatsoever -- only your answers.
Your conclusions appear inconsistent, if not contradictory. You started out with "yes and no," but now you are answering "no."
Without context, it would appear none of us knows what your answer is -- including yourself!
:wacko:
I see, you want me to post a longer discussion so you can find something more to argue with. It's not like you seriously care about whatever reasoning I may come up with.
If the OP wants more meat to my answer he can certainly ask me to elaborate.
If my answers appear inconsistent to you that is your shortcoming, I clearly qualified my answers to indicate one was a general answer and the other could be answered in the affirmative or the negative depending on the specific situation. If you want a contextual answer, ask a contextual question.
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I see, you want me to post a longer discussion so you can find something more to argue with. It's not like you seriously care about whatever reasoning I may come up with.
If the OP wants more meat to my answer he can certainly ask me to elaborate.
If my answers appear inconsistent to you that is your shortcoming, I clearly qualified my answers to indicate one was a general answer and the other could be answered in the affirmative or the negative depending on the specific situation. If you want a contextual answer, ask a contextual question.
Deflection. All those words, and they add nothing to the topic.
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I see, you want me to post a longer discussion so you can find something more to argue with. It's not like you seriously care about whatever reasoning I may come up with.
Paraphrasing here - “Know yourself and know your enemy: In a thousand battles no danger.”
Chinese Patton of the 6th century BC ::)
Perhaps you’ve already read this book … - I highly recommend the Roger T. Ames translation, it’s perhaps the best out there!
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Paraphrasing here - “Know yourself and know your enemy: In a thousand battles no danger.”
Chinese Patton of the 6th century BC ::)
Perhaps you’ve already read this book … - I highly recommend the Roger T. Ames translation, it’s perhaps the best out there!
Are you suggesting Flapp is trying to get to know his me better?
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Are you suggesting Flapp is trying to get to know his me better?
No, I’m just saying the comment of yours I highlighted characterizes a strategic assessment, and strategy is e v e r y t h i n g.
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No, I’m just saying the comment of yours I highlighted characterizes a strategic assessment, and strategy is e v e r y t h i n g.
Oh, haha. Not sure if that is a compliment or not so I will take it as a complement!
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Are you suggesting Flapp is trying to get to know his me better?
What an imagination today.