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Title: honolulu firearms rapidfire
Post by: armsinc on February 01, 2013, 11:56:45 PM
I want to practice shooting my pistols does Honolulu Farms allow rapid fire... I know they suck in price... But I got a friend who's paying ... :D.... I basically want practice double ;) tap
Title: Re: honolulu firearms rapidfire
Post by: 230RN on February 02, 2013, 03:27:12 AM
If they do have a rapid-fire restriction, an imperfect substitute, just to develop the muscle memory, is to load a dummy under or after the live round and click away.

The main practice element there is the recovery from the first recoil... at least, that's the way I see it.

Hadda do that at one range a long time ago.  I still do it once in a while just to save ammo when "refreshing" with a long-unused gun.  I load dummy, live, dummy, live, dummy, live, to the mag or cylinder capacity, making sure the last round (first one in the mag) is a dummy.

For them double-action revolvolatin' guns you have to think about it a second or two more, and remember the direction of cylinder rotation*.  First time I did this with a 7-rd revolvolator it confused me, but it worked out OK.

Terry, 230RN

* Smiths rotate counterclockwise from the rear of the gun, Colts rotate clockwise.  Rugers go counterclockwise, too.
Title: Re: honolulu firearms rapidfire
Post by: armsinc on February 02, 2013, 04:03:44 AM
If they do have a rapid-fire restriction, an imperfect substitute, just to develop the muscle memory, is to load a dummy under or after the live round and click away.

The main practice element there is the recovery from the first recoil... at least, that's the way I see it.

Hadda do that at one range a long time ago.  I still do it once in a while just to save ammo when "refreshing" with a long-unused gun.  I load dummy, live, dummy, live, dummy, live, to the mag or cylinder capacity, making sure the last round (first one in the mag) is a dummy.

For them revolvolatin' guns you have to think about it a second or two more, and remember the direction of cylinder rotation*.  First time I did this with a 7-rd revolvolator it confused me, but it worked out OK.

Terry, 230RN

* Smiths rotate counterclockwise from the rear of the gun, Colts rotate clockwise.
haha ..... the only thing is if i (my friend ) is going to pay a premium to shoot there I want to do double tap or something along that sort of lines....
Title: Re: honolulu firearms rapidfire
Post by: 230RN on February 02, 2013, 04:07:43 AM
Well, that's what I was getting at.  If you can't do rapid fire double taps, do rapid-fire bang-clicks with dummy second rounds.

My experience is range officers pay extra attention to members with guests, so be extra diligent on the rules.

Terry, 230RN
Title: Re: honolulu firearms rapidfire
Post by: mving4ward on February 02, 2013, 09:51:53 AM
been there, lots. double-tap, triple, from the holster, kneeling. be safe.
Title: Re: honolulu firearms rapidfire
Post by: bass monkey on February 02, 2013, 09:59:54 AM
Well, that's what I was getting at.  If you can't do rapid fire double taps, do rapid-fire bang-clicks with dummy second rounds.

My experience is range officers pay extra attention to members with guests, so be extra diligent on the rules.

Terry, 230RN

Thats a good technique.  You get to feel like your double tapping, feel the trigger reset, get your second "shot" off, practice malfunction drills, etc.
Title: Re: honolulu firearms rapidfire
Post by: Kingkeoni on February 02, 2013, 11:50:48 AM
I double tap all the time and mag dump pistols all the time at HF.

They're ok with it as long as you're safe.
Title: Re: honolulu firearms rapidfire
Post by: Gorilla25 on February 02, 2013, 02:04:43 PM
I done double-taps and mag dumps. never got in trouble before. also while in the show room, they just chuckle it off when they hear anyone dumping mags in the range.
Title: Re: honolulu firearms rapidfire
Post by: SpeedTek on February 02, 2013, 03:08:33 PM
Used a slidefire there a few months back. Just gotta warn everyone first
Title: Re: honolulu firearms rapidfire
Post by: sic_semper_tyrannis on February 02, 2013, 03:28:57 PM
What store has the slidefire stocks? OGC and HF didn't have them. Or did you just order on-line?
Title: Re: honolulu firearms rapidfire
Post by: bass monkey on February 02, 2013, 03:41:09 PM
What store has the slidefire stocks? OGC and HF didn't have them. Or did you just order on-line?


trick question. X ring has them. (usually) or can order it for you
Title: Re: honolulu firearms rapidfire
Post by: SpeedTek on February 02, 2013, 06:52:40 PM
What store has the slidefire stocks? OGC and HF didn't have them. Or did you just order on-line?

X-Ring stocks them normally. They have a shipment coming in next week

Title: Re: honolulu firearms rapidfire
Post by: ren on February 02, 2013, 08:00:32 PM
SOmeone was doing double taps today at Kokohead. ROs stopped it though. Glad they did cuz some people need to learn how to shoot first ;D
Title: Re: honolulu firearms rapidfire
Post by: GreenStomper on February 02, 2013, 10:16:54 PM
HF prides themselves on the rapid fire at their range. Ive got a bad habit of fondling firearms when I go window (display case shopping).  Every time at HF they tell me about discount range time when you buy. And the fact they allow rapid fire.
Title: Re: honolulu firearms rapidfire
Post by: sliver on February 03, 2013, 01:21:54 AM
can someone tell me where this honolulu farms is? 
Title: Re: honolulu firearms rapidfire
Post by: WCMTWS on February 03, 2013, 01:38:03 AM
Does KHSC have a valid reason for not allowing 'rapid fire'...or more then five rounds?
Title: Re: honolulu firearms rapidfire
Post by: Gd4udog on February 03, 2013, 01:44:16 AM
Ward ave and Queen st just off of ward diamond head side on queen
Title: honolulu firearms rapidfire
Post by: hnl.flyboy on February 03, 2013, 01:45:09 AM
can someone tell me where this honolulu farms is?

Honolulu Firearms and Range, formerly Magnum Firearms. A couple blocks down from the main police station and around the corner from Sports Authority.
Title: honolulu firearms rapidfire
Post by: hnl.flyboy on February 03, 2013, 01:46:18 AM
Does KHSC have a valid reason for not allowing 'rapid fire'...or more then five rounds?

Many people can't control rapid fire and with a trail nearby.............

As for 5 rounds, you got me.
Title: Re: honolulu firearms rapidfire
Post by: 230RN on February 03, 2013, 04:11:26 AM
Thats a good technique.  You get to feel like your double tapping, feel the trigger reset, get your second "shot" off, practice malfunction drills, etc.

Hey, I've been around the block with firearms a couple of times.  Listen to the old man.

Oh, and marriages, too.

Terry, 230RN

Title: Re: honolulu firearms rapidfire
Post by: GZire on February 03, 2013, 10:25:46 AM
Does KHSC have a valid reason for not allowing 'rapid fire'...or more then five rounds?
Many people can't control rapid fire and with a trail nearby.............

As for 5 rounds, you got me.

One reason for 5 rounds is the fact that some people should not be working on their own firearms.  I've seen a couple of rifles fire bursts due to issues with their firearms.  Sometimes it's from guys doing their own work to lighten trigger pull, some times it's a genuine mechanical break down. 

Figuring some people cannot even control the firearm when they are prepared and even a skilled person won't have the reaction time when they aren't prepared means you could have a runaway. 

That being said, it would probably only be a couple of rounds and without sufficient resistance from a properly shouldered firearm, it would probably jam.
Title: Re: honolulu firearms rapidfire
Post by: macsak on February 03, 2013, 11:27:02 AM
was there first thing this morning
rapid fire ok
i guess they still have free range fees on sunday, but i did go with a member, so i don't know if that made a difference
9mm was 18.40 a box with the member discount (on second thought, maybe it was 18.40 before discount)
i'll have to check with my friend at the super bowl party and confirm the proces

Honolulu Firearms and Range, formerly Magnum Firearms. A couple blocks down from the main police station and around the corner from Sports Authority.
Title: Re: honolulu firearms rapidfire
Post by: Teichi on February 03, 2013, 04:27:54 PM
Per NRA and CMP rules, rapidfire is 5 rounds in 10 seconds at the 25 yardline shooting one-handed for Bullseye Pistol.

For High Power Rifle, it is 10 rounds (2 magazines loaded with 2/8 or 5/5), sitting position, iron sights, 200yards, 60 seconds. At 300yards you get 70 seconds in the prone position.

Much of Koko Head rules were modeled from NRA and CMP style shooting
Title: Re: honolulu firearms rapidfire
Post by: g4z808 on February 03, 2013, 05:35:06 PM
Does HF allow 12ga birdshot ?

i need to function test my Saiga without emptying my wallet on slugs
Title: Re: Re: honolulu firearms rapidfire
Post by: fstbckgt on February 03, 2013, 06:10:55 PM
Does HF allow 12ga birdshot ?

i need to function test my Saiga without emptying my wallet on slugs
Use birdshot at khsc. But fire over the berm
Title: Re: honolulu firearms rapidfire
Post by: SpeedTek on February 03, 2013, 06:26:37 PM
When art was there we could. I dont know now
Title: honolulu firearms rapidfire
Post by: drck1000 on February 03, 2013, 06:26:42 PM
Does HF allow 12ga birdshot ?

i need to function test my Saiga without emptying my wallet on slugs
They allowed us to shoot both buck and slug, but that was during a class, so not sure what their policy is during typical open range time.
Title: Re: Re: honolulu firearms rapidfire
Post by: g4z808 on February 03, 2013, 08:31:59 PM
Use birdshot at khsc. But fire over the berm

so i can grab a lane and just shoot above all the targets ?

i was hoping HF would allow it so i can try rapid fire. i also need to see if i can cycle birdshot yet. last time i was at the skeet range my saiga wasnt cycling birdshot at all  >:(
Title: Re: Re: Re: honolulu firearms rapidfire
Post by: fstbckgt on February 03, 2013, 10:48:49 PM
so i can grab a lane and just shoot above all the targets ?

i was hoping HF would allow it so i can try rapid fire. i also need to see if i can cycle birdshot yet. last time i was at the skeet range my saiga wasnt cycling birdshot at all  >:(
Yeah I did for my 1897 copy, I asked the ro and he said no problem firing over the targets
Title: Re: honolulu firearms rapidfire
Post by: Kingkeoni on February 03, 2013, 10:57:04 PM
Does HF allow 12ga birdshot ?

i need to function test my Saiga without emptying my wallet on slugs

Yes, they're ok with all shotgun ammo.

Bird, buck & slug
Title: Re: Re: honolulu firearms rapidfire
Post by: Kingkeoni on February 03, 2013, 10:58:03 PM
so i can grab a lane and just shoot above all the targets ?

i was hoping HF would allow it so i can try rapid fire. i also need to see if i can cycle birdshot yet. last time i was at the skeet range my saiga wasnt cycling birdshot at all  >:(

Have you installed a reliability kit on the Saiga?
Title: Re: Re: honolulu firearms rapidfire
Post by: g4z808 on February 04, 2013, 02:52:34 PM
Have you installed a reliability kit on the Saiga?

so far only reliability upgrade i did was a new adjustable gas plug. i just did a FCG conversion. i want to see fi ti will cycle low brass, if not im going to get new spring and puck , or send my bolt off for polishing
Title: Re: honolulu firearms rapidfire
Post by: GZire on February 04, 2013, 06:56:03 PM
Yes, they're ok with all shotgun ammo.

Bird, buck & slug


Jeebus I thought you were saying a slug is ammo to shoot birds.
Title: Re: honolulu firearms rapidfire
Post by: danwrx on February 06, 2013, 03:55:11 PM
can someone tell me where this honolulu farms is?

Farms? LoL  :shake: :rofl: :shake: :rofl:
Title: Re: honolulu firearms rapidfire
Post by: SpeedTek on February 06, 2013, 04:07:50 PM

Jeebus I thought you were saying a slug is ammo to shoot birds.

It would what bird? If u hit it!
Title: Re: honolulu firearms rapidfire
Post by: GZire on February 11, 2013, 06:06:54 AM
It would what bird? If u hit it!


It's KK he might be hunting ostriches or Big Bird........................maybe a Snuffalufagus or two also.....................
Title: Re: honolulu firearms rapidfire
Post by: CSaladino on February 12, 2013, 10:37:42 AM
 ;D
Title: Re: honolulu firearms rapidfire
Post by: Kingkeoni on February 12, 2013, 05:38:53 PM

It's KK he might be hunting ostriches or Big Bird........................maybe a Snuffalufagus or two also.....................

Ostrich tastes real good.
Title: Re: honolulu firearms rapidfire
Post by: Bigkahuna808 on February 13, 2013, 12:14:32 PM
Can u use a bumpfire stock in thier range?
Title: Re: honolulu firearms rapidfire
Post by: dirtylickins on February 13, 2013, 05:03:02 PM
Good question i would like to know the answer to that.

Title: Re: honolulu firearms rapidfire
Post by: MasterYensi on February 13, 2013, 05:21:21 PM
Used a slidefire there a few months back. Just gotta warn everyone first

I think your question was answered earlier in the post...
Title: Re: honolulu firearms rapidfire
Post by: g4z808 on February 13, 2013, 06:18:08 PM
their site says you can only used ammo purchased from them on their range. is this true ?
Title: Re: honolulu firearms rapidfire
Post by: macsak on February 13, 2013, 06:31:42 PM
yes
they can kick you out if they catch you with outside ammo
when the changeover first took place, i heard they even searched some people's bags

their site says you can only used ammo purchased from them on their range. is this true ?
Title: Re: honolulu firearms rapidfire
Post by: ManaSpark on February 13, 2013, 10:37:02 PM
Not to mention, it also has to be purchased then and there.  Even if you bought ammo and didn't use it all, moment it leaves the store it's considered "Outside" ammo.