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General Topics => General Discussion => Topic started by: caseyscrat on March 16, 2013, 05:36:16 PM
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I am in the military and need a sample commanders memo that states that I have been trained to use a hangun. Does anyone know where I can find one?
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I think OGC had a sample.
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Got my sample from Young Guns.
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Not sure if this is what your looking for, got this from Kaneohe Gun Shop's website.
http://www.kaneohegs.com/classes.htm (http://www.kaneohegs.com/classes.htm)
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Not sure if this is what your looking for, got this from Kaneohe Gun Shop's website.
http://www.kaneohegs.com/classes.htm (http://www.kaneohegs.com/classes.htm)
^^thats the one you'll need^^ (at least for the Army)
Just remember to get it notarized!!
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^^thats the one you'll need^^ (at least for the Army)
Just remember to get it notarized!!
+1, couple friends got denied at HPD because they did not have their letter notarized even though the CO signed it.
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hpd needs to fix themselves a military commanding officer's signature is a notarization.
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hpd needs to fix themselves a military commanding officer's signature is a notarization.
This is just my understanding (navy). The XO has notarization authority, in turn he passes that authority to his admin personnel(one designated person in this instance) and they do the notarization of the letter after the CO signs. That's at least what happened in my situation. But hey, what do I know.... I'm just a enlisted guy :geekdanc:
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hpd needs to fix themselves a military commanding officer's signature is a notarization.
No it's not.
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hpd needs to fix themselves this registration hassle is stupid
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No it's not.
10 USC § 936 - Art. 136. Authority to administer oaths and to act as notary
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10 USC § 936 - Art. 136. Authority to administer oaths and to act as notary
+1. Since it was my Platoon Sergeant signing "By Direction," we took it to base legal to get it notarized just in case. If your CO doesn't want to do it as a notary, then base legal should do it for free.
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If I'm reading this website correctly under notes and amendments, the power for a commander to act as a notary was removed in 1990. Which makes sense since in each Army Battalion there is a paralegal assigned who does notaries. Wouldn't need one if commanders could do it.
http://www.law.cornell.edu/uscode/text/10/936 (http://www.law.cornell.edu/uscode/text/10/936)
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Dang fellas why can't you guys use these skills and get us some approved ccw. :shaka:
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How can you be a notary to your own signature? The notary is suppose to be someone with authority to witness the signature other than the person signing the document.
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Dang fellas why can't you guys use these skills and get us some approved ccw. :shaka:
There's only so much stupid you can scrub off.
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How can you be a notary to your own signature? The notary is suppose to be someone with authority to witness the signature other than the person signing the document.
A commander would be notarizing the fact that you completed such training.
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I take it in the past, a commander could observe and notarize a document someone else signed. Therefore in the past, 2 commanders would have to sign a gun training document. One is the Soldiers commander verifying training, the second is a different commander notarizing the document.
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The CO signature is good as long as you are dealing only with the Military. Once that document goes outside the Military into the civilian sector, the documents must be signed by a notary.
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The CO signature is good as long as you are dealing only with the Military. Once that document goes outside the Military into the civilian sector, the documents must be signed by a notary.
I've heard that, too, but then been told in no uncertain terms that whether the state likes it or not, the CO notary thing is valid.
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I've heard that, too, but then been told in no uncertain terms that whether the state likes it or not, the CO notary thing is valid.
It is possible I guess...I know my S-1 is a notary and often notarizes documents that my LTC signs. I can ask tomorrow and see what they say...
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In the early days of the exception, a CO's signature was sufficient for HPD. That is until some high speed individuals without primary command overstepped their authority and started writing up letters for anyone that asked. So now theres the additional B.S. step of getting a civil notarization.
The CO signature is good as long as you are dealing only with the Military. Once that document goes outside the Military into the civilian sector, the documents must be signed by a notary.
Correct. There is a difference in standards for military and civil notarial services.
I've heard that, too, but then been told in no uncertain terms that whether the state likes it or not, the CO notary thing is valid.
Who ever told you that has been misinformed. Within the US, all military notarial services are subject to the laws of the jurisdiction involved. Refer to 10 USC §1044a and AR 27-55.
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I am in the military and need a sample commanders memo that states that I have been trained to use a hangun. Does anyone know where I can find one?
If the person you ask does not already have a sample/template for the letter, then they might not have the authority to sign off on it.