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Tools and Uses => Firearms and Accessories => Topic started by: bknaka on April 02, 2013, 07:31:11 PM
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Im in the market for a 22lr handgun and I was wondering which one would be the best. I would be using it for target shooting and plinking. I dont really care much for the look of the rugur 22/45. I would like it to look more like a typical semi auto handgun for example s&w m&p 22
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I chose the Sig Sauer 1911 22LR pistol. Nice "1911-ish" feel. Heavier than you would think for a .22. Got a good deal at the Gun Show -- brand new from local gun shop.
I just picked it up on Monday, so looking forward to breaking it in this weekend.
This pistol is branded for Sig by GSG, the actual manufacturer. Here's a very in-depth review of the GSG 1911-22:
http://www.thefirearmblog.com/blog/2011/08/27/review-of-the-gsg-1911-22-pistol/ (http://www.thefirearmblog.com/blog/2011/08/27/review-of-the-gsg-1911-22-pistol/)
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I'm gonna guess most people gonna say neos based on what you want
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+1 for the 1911 22 or maybe a 22 revolver, those are sweet
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as mentioned the m&p22 and sig 1911-22 are good modern looking rimfires for about 400. im looking at picking up a walther ppk .22 the next time i find a centerfire handgun i gotta have.
i dont care for the neos at all. rather have a browning buckmark hunter...although its almost double the price of a neo.
i have the m&p22 and its a good gun. you can try it out on the 11th. usually needs high velocity ammo if you dont want to modify springs and do heavy polishing to help cycle the action.
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S&W Model 41 - You could split a mongooses nuts at 100yds. I got one in '91 and it works flawlessly like its factory new after 22yrs and 1000's of rounds.
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S&W Model 41 if you can find one.
Walther PPK in 22LR (mine got stolen) (never get a TPH)
I dont really like modern 22LR pistols. They dont make them like they use to.
I have a Walther P-38 with a 22LR conversion. This is my favorite.
I shot a Sig 226 with the 22 conversion. It is good. But the gun i used needed some trigger work.
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I chose the Sig Sauer 1911 22LR pistol. Nice "1911-ish" feel. Heavier than you would think for a .22. Got a good deal at the Gun Show -- brand new from local gun shop.
I just picked it up on Monday, so looking forward to breaking it in this weekend.
This pistol is branded for Sig by GSG, the actual manufacturer. Here's a very in-depth review of the GSG 1911-22:
http://www.thefirearmblog.com/blog/2011/08/27/review-of-the-gsg-1911-22-pistol/ (http://www.thefirearmblog.com/blog/2011/08/27/review-of-the-gsg-1911-22-pistol/)
I've been thinking of picking one up, let me know how you like it once you've shot it. :shaka:
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S&W Model 41 - You could split a mongooses nuts at 100yds. I got one in '91 and it works flawlessly like its factory new after 22yrs and 1000's of rounds.
Damn I miss mine. It made a bad shooter look good. It was so accurate. When I had it I the Ruger Mark 1 was a joke....now might have to buy a Mark III because I cant find a deal on a 41
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I was told a Ruger Mark III
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I was told a Ruger Mark III
Those are great 22LR Pistols also
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If you have a centerfire pistol, then I would recommend getting a .22 conversion kit. It would be a cash and carry deal or you could order online. No 3 trips to HPD for the long wait. You get the the same feel and trigger pull of your big gun with the ammo cost of a .22.
If you feel the need for another handgun, the best guns for accuracy is the S&W 41, Hammerli 208, Walther SSP/GSPs, and the Morini competition pistols at the steep prices.
Good accuracy pistols are the Ruger MKIII or 45/22, Browning Challengers, Beretta Neos, S&W 22A, HIgh Standard Citation and Trophy models.
Typical looking guns are less accurate, but are more compact and handier.
It all depends on what you plan to use it for.
I personally shoot a Ruger MKII Bull Barrel with a Volquartsen trigger kit and extended mag release for bulleye competition.
My Ruger SP101 .22 revolver with 4" barrel is my plinker/trainer and practice gun for my SP101 in 357Mag
My North American Arms Mini revolver in .22 is my good luck charm.
I also have a Kimber .22 conversion for my 1911 and a Ciener ,22 conversion for my Beretta 92F.
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I've shot a ruger mkii, very nice pistol, but I like the Colt Woodsman better.
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Take your pick:
22's rock and don't get the respect they deserve with the younger guys... They don't know what they are missing.
Smith Model 17
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22/45 Clark Custom
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Smith Model 41...picked up at the recent gun show. Registered today.
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Ruger Mark II Government. Great balance for offhand shooting. No picture...
I shoot this one every day in my back yard. 40 shots from 1 co2 cartridge. As accurate as anything you will find at the range and I have to say it might be my favorite pistol.
http://www.mac1airgunshop.com/mki-ld-limited-edition-airpistol-p/10mkildle.htm. (http://www.mac1airgunshop.com/mki-ld-limited-edition-airpistol-p/10mkildle.htm.)
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Got this one when I was 14...back when a kid could buy a gun. No paperwork...no nothing. I spent many, many days shooting this puppy. It will shoot anything you feed it and requires hardly any care.
Rugers are great. I would suggest a trigger job though. The full Clark Custom models pop up on Gun Broker once in a while. I recall seeing them in the $500 range before the frenzy.
Even without the trigger job they are darn great plinkers.
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These guys are the masters.
http://www.clarkcustomguns.com/rug22pcn.htm (http://www.clarkcustomguns.com/rug22pcn.htm)
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Hey that sig, is it the one with the rosewood grips? I was looking at that over at kona guns. It is heavy for a 22 but i like it let me know how it shoots
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Rugers are great.
Ruger MK II Target
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I have a Beretta Neos.
fun gun to shoot, and its cheap.
rail on top to mount optics.
i've put 500+ rounds thru it, no problems.
i also have a Ruger LCR 22
not great at longer distances. its a short barrel DAO.
but i like it for what it is.
i hear the Ruger SR22 is a nice gun.
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Nice Bunker. What grips? I like.
I put some Herrett stocks on mine recently and not sure if I'll keep them on.
(https://lh6.googleusercontent.com/-FRQ9PuQ6sng/UVxuU-FubyI/AAAAAAAACoo/9uh3gDf3mb0/s800/IMG_3639.JPG)
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I had a Clark trigger job and Bo-Mar style rear sight installed. It's a sweet shooting machine.
Dave
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M&P (well Walther produced) 22 here. It's been an excellent gun for plinking/range fun and teaching as well. Ammo is cheap and the gun is relatively inexpensive. I bought mine in the $380 range. The Beretta Neo is another gun I'd like to try, but I probably won't get another 22 handgun for a while. Maybe a 22 lr revolver next though.
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Nice Bunker. What grips? I like.
I put some Herrett stocks on mine recently and not sure if I'll keep them on.
I had a Clark trigger job and Bo-Mar style rear sight installed. It's a sweet shooting machine.
Dave
Wow VERY nice gun! I'm a big fan of .22LR as well. Some people love it, some people hate it, but I really enjoy shooting my 22/45 with a red dot. It will eat any ammo I throw at it, including that really dirty Winchester stuff from Sports Authority.
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i'm a big fan of the 22. everyone needs at least a couple of them.
these days, a 22 revolver is a very practical option. ;)
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i'm a big fan of the 22. everyone needs at least a couple of them.
these days, a 22 revolver is a very practical option. ;)
A single shot .22lr handgun might be the best option in these hard-to-find ammo days.
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Does anyone know where i can find CCI Standard Velocity (blue box)?
Thanks,
Dave
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Love my Ruger SR22. It's a modern looking gun and it fires just about any .22 ammo. The range officers always freak out when I let my son shoot it because they think its a center fire hand gun. Little they know my son shoots my glock .40 when their not looking.
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S&W Model 41 if you can find one.
Walther PPK in 22LR (mine got stolen) (never get a TPH)
I dont really like modern 22LR pistols. They dont make them like they use to.
I have a Walther P-38 with a 22LR conversion. This is my favorite.
I shot a Sig 226 with the 22 conversion. It is good. But the gun i used needed some trigger work.
I was looking into the 22 conversion for my p226. I'm finding out that about half of them are giving consistent FTF and FTE issues. Its a roll the dice kinda thing when you get it. I would expect more out of it because its a $280 conversion. BTW do you have any 22 conversions for the 226 in stock or available to order.
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Does anyone know where i can find CCI Standard Velocity (blue box)?
Thanks,
Dave
For the time being, a better question would be "does anyone know where I can find ANY 22lr ammo?"
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For the time being, a better question would be "does anyone know where I can find ANY 22lr ammo?"
SEC just got a shipment in.
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Hey super dave did u send the gun to clarke? Or did you buy the drop in parts? I wanna do the same to my mkii comp target
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I sent it to Clarks since I'm not very handy. Plus, I wanted them to change out the sights. I'm grew up in Louisiana so I'm partial to dealing with them. Good guys to deal with. Takes little while though.
Put the red dot on tonight...ready for the range this Sunday. I hope it's not finicky.
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I sent it to Clarks since I'm not very handy. Plus, I wanted them to change out the sights. I'm grew up in Louisiana so I'm partial to dealing with them. Good guys to deal with. Takes little while though.
Put the red dot on tonight...ready for the range this Sunday. I hope it's not finicky.
(https://lh4.googleusercontent.com/-uHDEBNsk_w0/UV0oIj1gA8I/AAAAAAAACrE/5sBrX3uTXCQ/s800/IMG_3649.JPG)
Wow that is a nice gun. If you don't mind me asking how much did you pick that up for?
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I sent it to Clarks since I'm not very handy. Plus, I wanted them to change out the sights. I'm grew up in Louisiana so I'm partial to dealing with them. Good guys to deal with. Takes little while though.
Put the red dot on tonight...ready for the range this Sunday. I hope it's not finicky.
(https://lh4.googleusercontent.com/-uHDEBNsk_w0/UV0oIj1gA8I/AAAAAAAACrE/5sBrX3uTXCQ/s800/IMG_3649.JPG)
thats pretty cool
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Paid $600 for the Model 41....plus a day and a half of registration.
I don't think I will buy another gun until the lines at HPD calm down.
Dave
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Wow you know I'd think honolulu would be better than big island but every time I needed to go to PD there's only around 10 people or so and firearms are only open 2 hrs a day
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Nice Bunker. What grips? I like.
Dave
I bought the pistol new in 1985 and I believe off the top of my head they are Hogue grips. You may not see the same exact grips anymore but there are several available that come close to it.
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Can't go wrong with a Ruger 22/45 or mark III.
I also didn't like the look of it at first but now it's a sweet looking pistol thats accurate.
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Hey that sig, is it the one with the rosewood grips? I was looking at that over at kona guns. It is heavy for a 22 but i like it let me know how it shoots
Okay, here's my review of the Sig Sauer 1911-22, since a couple people here expressed an interest.
LOOK & FEEL
Very nice feel to it. It's so close to the size and weight of a larger caliber 1911, many instructors use this (or the GSG-branded version), to teach students proper use and for practice. I let my friend try it, and he preferred the feel over the Ruger Mark III he tried. Well balanced, very smooth, and enough "pop" to enjoy the shooting!
OPERATION
The mags have a little catch that you can use to pull the follower down while reloading. This really saves on your fingers, prevents decapitating poorly seated rounds, and you don't have to buy a speed loader for it. The downside: only one mag came with the gun. YG had extras ... $49.99 each (I did buy 2 more .. never wanna be without at least one in the grip plus a spare!). This pistol is not overly hefty, yet it's substantial enough to develop good muscle memory for operating any 1911.
PERFORMANCE
Accuracy was so-so, depending on the ammo fired. I had several 3 & 4 shot groups in the 3-inch range, while others seemed to be randomly good-good-flyer-flyer-good. Could be just the shooter, but I think the ammo was a big factor. The action was very, very smooth, and I only had 5 FTF ... all with the same non-HV ammo (see below). All-in-all, a very fun shooter!
STAY TUNED LATER
I ordered some replacement parts for this gun last week after reading that some parts are a little loose in tolerance and can cause the barrel to droop in the front bushing. There is a barrel adjustment screw to compensate, but after the new parts, that screw gets tossed! It's the torque screw in the pic below ... right-most circle under "GERMANY". I ordered the PERFORMANCE ENHANCEMENT SYSTEM (No, not the one from Smilin' Bob!!), from CW Accessories. This replaces the bushing, spring plug, and recoil spring. I'm also replacing the plastic guide rod with an all-stainless one. Here are the links:
http://www.cwaccessories.com/Performance-Enhancement-System.html (http://www.cwaccessories.com/Performance-Enhancement-System.html)
http://www.cwaccessories.com/Other-Upgrades.html (http://www.cwaccessories.com/Other-Upgrades.html)
Now that I've tried the stock pistol, I can see how much the new parts improve accuracy and consistency. I'll let you know next weekend .... tracking says my order is already in Mililani after shipping out Thursday! :geekdanc:
AMMUNITION
I tried 3 types of ammo:
CCI Blazer: This had 5 FTF. Ejected the fired cartridge okay, just didn't have enough umpf to completely send the slide to the rear and pick up the next round. The slide locked open (empty chamber), so all I had to do was rack the slide, and it was ready to keep firing. Accuracy was spotty, and I think these were the least consistent of the three types.
CCI Mini-Mag HV: These operated flawlessly and had good accuracy and consistency. Every once in a while, I would see a round hit 2-3 rings higher than the POA. Still, not sure if I'm the cause, but it seemed to happen most often when I shot this ammo and the Blazer.
Winchester Super-X HV: These cycled perfectly and had the best accuracy and consistency. Good groups and had the most bull/red ring hits compared to the other ammo.
Hope that's helpful. If you have specific questions, please feel free to ask! :D
Here is what the manual and the engraving on the pistol have to say about ammunition to use. I would follow their recommendations, based on my first experience: