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General Topics => General Discussion => Topic started by: Kingkeoni on April 30, 2013, 06:23:13 AM
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I've noticed that a lot of people are trying to dump the guns, ammo and magazines that they hoarded during the latest scare.
I've also noticed the inflated prices people are trying to sell them for.
Some of the people selling got gouged and now realize that they overpaid. They're trying to sell now to minimize their losses.
Others are still trying to gouge.
In the meantime most people are irritated with the high prices.
Based on forum rules however, you can not voice your opinion on someone's overpriced for sale ad, or risk getting banned.
Here's the solution.
Stop buying overpriced shit.
Don't even respond to their overpriced ads. They can lower the price to a proper price or can suck on their overpriced stuff.
Responding negatively to their ads only starts fights. I should know, I start half of them.
The truth though is that you'll see people bumping their own for sale ads one trillion times till they realize that every single gun store in America is selling the same thing for less than their inflated price.
I know it's frustrating but some of us predicted this exact same thing would happen.
When people couldn't find a gun or magazine because people hoarded them, you swore that you'd never help them get out from under their hoard.
Bottom line, let their ad grow cobwebs till they get a clue. :closed:
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Yep.
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Well Said kk :thumbsup:
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Yep, told all my friends this day would be here soon.
Now if we wait another couple months when even more starts showing up and people start getting more desperate because of their big CC bills prices are going to start hitting rock bottom.
Perfect time to buy. ;)
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KK I like buy some of your stuff...........for cheap.........
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Well said. I'm hoping ammo starts being available at the regular price again...
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I've noticed that a lot of people are trying to dump the guns, ammo and magazines that they hoarded during the latest scare.
I've also noticed the inflated prices people are trying to sell them for.
Some of the people selling got gouged and now realize that they overpaid. They're trying to sell now to minimize their losses.
Others are still trying to gouge.
In the meantime most people are irritated with the high prices.
Based on forum rules however, you can not voice your opinion on someone's overpriced for sale ad, or risk getting banned.
Here's the solution.
Stop buying overpriced shit.
Don't even respond to their overpriced ads. They can lower the price to a proper price or can suck on their overpriced stuff.
Responding negatively to their ads only starts fights. I should know, I start half of them.
The truth though is that you'll see people bumping their own for sale ads one trillion times till they realize that every single gun store in America is selling the same thing for less than their inflated price.
I know it's frustrating but some of us predicted this exact same thing would happen.
When people couldn't find a gun or magazine because people hoarded them, you swore that you'd never help them get out from under their hoard.
Bottom line, let their ad grow cobwebs till they get a clue. :closed:
Here is the solution: PM the guy your feelings and move on. No like price, no buy. No sense bustin his balls cuz he made a mistake. Keep it private and respectful, Two months ago if you wanted something you paid for it. Period. There were no deals. If you made a mistake, all you can do is try to get back some of your $$. If no one likes the price, no one will buy. I don't see why people can't send the guy a PM instead of publicly chastizing him.
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I see kk point and i guess i too get emotional yelling at the computer saying your outtayour mind. But when you try to sell your stuff on a forum full off people in the know its kind of embarrassing i think thats what kk is trying to point out. If im wrong about it well then thats how i feel then. You would be better off doing it to somebody like yourself who was happy when they overpaid and said i dont care iwant it but thats hard pressed here on a forum that um well tries to keep up , support , and defend the 2a or just plain loves those guns but oh well. Sorry ill just PM myself to shutup
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Blame Obama!
And evveryone who voted for him.
Pray that the ban never happens. Its not dead issue yet. They can pull this crap every year. Vote more dems out in the senate.
Then we will have a lame duck president. Hopefully.
Hes already killing us from the inside. Ammo shortages. Credit problems for gun companies. And other headaches
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I see kk point and i guess i too get emotional yelling at the computer saying your outtayour mind. But when you try to sell your stuff on a forum full off people in the know its kind of embarrassing i think thats what kk is trying to point out. If im wrong about it well then thats how i feel then. You would be better off doing it to somebody like yourself who was happy when they overpaid and said i dont care iwant it but thats hard pressed here on a forum that um well tries to keep up , support , and defend the 2a or just plain loves those guns but oh well. Sorry ill just PM myself to shutup
I agree with you both (lickins and KK). My only point is to handle it via PM. It is the considerate and respecful thing to do. :shaka: :closed:
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My following thoughts do not apply only to this forum, but looking through the classifieds here for the past few months was painful. I actually only purchased one item. Out of respect for myself I didn't even bother making offers on certain items. Just waited to see if the seller would come down on their own. Unfortunately there are too many ignorant consumers buying at the inflated prices. Having said that, I am more irritated by those sellers or companies who purchased low or had products and intentionally attempted to gouge others during the recent months. We can talk free and current market, supply and demand, blah, blah, blah, but you can put lipstick on a pig and you still have a pig. The public was fast to vilify companies who did that, I see no difference if it was a company or an individual who attempted the same. There is a difference in someone who reacted out of rash ignorance and got scalped and is now trying to re-coup and someone who purposely preyed on the situation. One is ignorant the other is a colorful adjective omitted and are not the friend of the firearm culture or enthusiast. I will not forget those users / companies and will not buy from them in the future. Period.
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I certainly do hope prices go back down though I do suspect it will be like gasoline prices.. they never just fall to what they were.
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BUMP
Price drop to $ 1,000,000.
Oops, sorry wrong forum.. >:D
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too bad there was not a forum which showed the msrp prices for guns so that people can see how much more expensive these used guns are going for. Even if you have never shot the gun, its used and there is no way in hell I would ever end up paying full price for a used gun! I mean why should I when I can pay full price for a brand new gun with a full warranty from the manufacture. Who the hell knows what kinda reloads you have used in that brand new gun of yours... the only gun I'd even consider paying anywhere near full price for is a Hi-Point (best warranty in the business, not the most accurate guns with a 3.5 inch barrel or the pretties but mines have always gone bang when you pull the trigger!).
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Blame Obama!
And evveryone who voted for him.
Pray that the ban never happens. Its not dead issue yet. They can pull this crap every year. Vote more dems out in the senate.
Then we will have a lame duck president. Hopefully.
Hes already killing us from the inside. Ammo shortages. Credit problems for gun companies. And other headaches
Obama care, do I have to say anything else? Everyone with a paying job is paying 2% more right now for it and in about 9 months you will be paying 4% more for it!!! Not only are you also receiving less medical care, your also receiving worst medical care because MD's just don't give a shit any more as they aren't getting paid for their services. Welcome to socialism!
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KK....you right! Crazy prices some peeps asking! Fricken dumb!
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too bad there was not a forum which showed the msrp prices for guns so that people can see how much more expensive these used guns are going for. Even if you have never shot the gun, its used and there is no way in hell I would ever end up paying full price for a used gun! I mean why should I when I can pay full price for a brand new gun with a full warranty from the manufacture. Who the hell knows what kinda reloads you have used in that brand new gun of yours... the only gun I'd even consider paying anywhere near full price for is a Hi-Point (best warranty in the business, not the most accurate guns with a 3.5 inch barrel or the pretties but mines have always gone bang when you pull the trigger!).
isnt there a Blue book for guns?
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isnt there a Blue book for guns?
If there is I have never seen it. Everyone buying a gun should know just about how much they cost (we are all on the internet, how hard is it to punch in the model you are looking for and check out the prices? There is more then just porn for your computer on the interwebs.). A used stock worn glock should not cost 500-650 when you can buy a brand new one for less then that. A 10/22 takedown should not cost 500 bucks when a brand new one cost 350. A M&P 22 should not cost 500-550 when a brand new one down at ogc tatical cost $400. An ar-15 shoudl not cost 2-3k for a stock one which cost 800-1000 brand new. I don't get how some people figure thier guns are worth so much. they much have gold inlay in them or something odd. There is no gun ban or high cap mag ban yet people still think they can sell these used/worn guns for 2+ X the normal price of a brand new one! It boggles the mind!!!
It's like people which sell their cars in hawaii for 2-3X the bluebook cost. Why not just buy a car on the mainland for a resonable price, pay a grand, and ship it back here? I laugh at them personnaly. Can't find a gun locally? Just buy it online and have it shipped to your FFL.
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There is a blue book for guns.
The blue book is a general guide and not necessarily indicative of the actual value of the firearm.
I understand that prices fluctuate based on current market conditions.
The part that bothers me is when people complain when you offer them a fair price for something.
The funniest part is that I routinely offer what I believe a (gun, mags, ammo) is worth. Then all the whiners bitch and moan. However, the seller usually PM's me with a "ok, I'll take that price." I meet them and all the whiners are sitting there with their thumbs up their ass.
You can ask whatever the hell you want for your stuff. But when you're ridiculed, get a clue.
This is the world we live in nowadays and it's sad.
"Everybody is a winner" "Don't disparage my overpriced stuff"
We're so politically correct that no one can tell the truth without hurting anyone's feelings.
This is why we as a country allow terrorists to come to America and plan attacks on U.S. soil and everybody is afraid to say "kick all those bastards out of the country"
:stopjack:
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I concur with everything KK said.
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Here is the solution: PM the guy your feelings and move on. No like price, no buy. No sense bustin his balls cuz he made a mistake. Keep it private and respectful, Two months ago if you wanted something you paid for it. Period. There were no deals. If you made a mistake, all you can do is try to get back some of your $$. If no one likes the price, no one will buy. I don't see why people can't send the guy a PM instead of publicly chastizing him.
My thought on this is that they deserve public admonition because they got suckered. Now they're hoping they can find another sucker to take the loss for them. If someone wanted to pay $30 a pop for beat-to-hell used USGI mags during Firearmageddon, more power to them, but I'm with KK on being annoyed that now those same people are doing their level best to keep prices overinflated by refusing to take a loss on their investment. There were plenty of us saying "Yo, dawg, don't buy those overpriced mags. Get on Midway's backorder list for P-Mags, or order some E-Landers from Mako Group and pay a reasonable price." That's what I did; I got twelve brand-new standard capacity AR mags for the standard price, right in the middle of Firearmageddon. Now, if I decide to sell some of my overstock, (lol, overstock? I'll never sell any of them, and I'll probably buy more! :D) I don't feel like I need to get 200% of the MSRP in order to break even--and most importantly, I won't be contributing to the extension of artificially inflated prices!
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I have faith in the market, it will set the price according to curent market conditions. Buy low and sell high is always the rule IF you are seeking a profit. If you think the fall from buying into firearms, ammunition and the like when prices were high - its not bad as doing the same mistake in trading stocks. The only admonishment is in your accounts. Day trading for example is a zero sum game. Equal amount of winners and losers. The next day is a whole new game, no time for tears, no time for high fives. Move on.
If you bought high then the loss is only realized when you sell low. The difference between what you paid and what the current market can offer is your sentiment to that product/service etc.
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Well stated KK! :thumbsup:
You are a trouble maker. :D
"Hoarded" is the key word . . .
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HELL YAH!!!! my sentiments exactly.....
let all the hoarders reap the benefits of not being able to sell on this forum.... crazy prices for guns and ammo...
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too bad there was not a forum which showed the msrp prices for guns so that people can see how much more expensive these used guns are going for. Even if you have never shot the gun, its used and there is no way in hell I would ever end up paying full price for a used gun! I mean why should I when I can pay full price for a brand new gun with a full warranty from the manufacture. Who the hell knows what kinda reloads you have used in that brand new gun of yours... the only gun I'd even consider paying anywhere near full price for is a Hi-Point (best warranty in the business, not the most accurate guns with a 3.5 inch barrel or the pretties but mines have always gone bang when you pull the trigger!).
Gunbroker is such a place. It tells you what the actual market price is for things.........how much people are actually spending on things.
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.................oh KK......................
http://2ahawaii.com/index.php?topic=8351.0 (http://2ahawaii.com/index.php?topic=8351.0)
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My thought on this is that they deserve public admonition because they got suckered. Now they're hoping they can find another sucker to take the loss for them. If someone wanted to pay $30 a pop for beat-to-hell used USGI mags during Firearmageddon, more power to them, but I'm with KK on being annoyed that now those same people are doing their level best to keep prices overinflated by refusing to take a loss on their investment. There were plenty of us saying "Yo, dawg, don't buy those overpriced mags. Get on Midway's backorder list for P-Mags, or order some E-Landers from Mako Group and pay a reasonable price." That's what I did; I got twelve brand-new standard capacity AR mags for the standard price, right in the middle of Firearmageddon. Now, if I decide to sell some of my overstock, (lol, overstock? I'll never sell any of them, and I'll probably buy more! :D) I don't feel like I need to get 200% of the MSRP in order to break even--and most importantly, I won't be contributing to the extension of artificially inflated prices!
You guys sound like the Govt telling people what to charge and such. I'm all for free market. If someone is asking too much, let them accumulate cobwebs until they decide to ask a more reasonable price. However, due to the stated rules of the classifieds, the proper method is to PM. PM your offer, accepted or declined. That simple. Even KK said half the time they respond "OK" to his reasonable market value offers. So really no need to whine about the whiners. What really bothers me the most is that most of the guys that chime in with the rude remarks have no interest in the item anyway. If you are interested, you have a legitimate gripe. If not intersted, no grumble. Forum rules.
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I have faith in the market, it will set the price according to curent market conditions. Buy low and sell high is always the rule IF you are seeking a profit. If you think the fall from buying into firearms, ammunition and the like when prices were high - its not bad as doing the same mistake in trading stocks. The only admonishment is in your accounts. Day trading for example is a zero sum game. Equal amount of winners and losers. The next day is a whole new game, no time for tears, no time for high fives. Move on.
If you bought high then the loss is only realized when you sell low. The difference between what you paid and what the current market can offer is your sentiment to that product/service etc.
well said
I can't agree 100% with KK. And I will admit I took advantage of the market. I bought low and sold high. Do you hate me? I don't give a flying F. You can kick rocks for all I care. I've always said an item is only worth what someone is willing to pay. In the end if the buyer and seller is happy I could care less what a 3rd party thinks of me. My first priority is my family and as long as I am earning money legally I don't owe any forum or it's members anything. However, I have always negotiated when someone asked to come down in price. Most times I met in the middle and other times it was a deal breaker. No hard feelings on either party.
Finally I didnt do nothing different than what Honolulu Ford would do with a Shelby Mustang. I took MSRP on a hard to find item, added a little for profit, left enough wiggle room and made money. Do you bitch and ridicule a dealership for doing that? Sure you do but guess what that Shelby still got sold for an additional profit.
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You guys sound like the Govt telling people what to charge and such. I'm all for free market. If someone is asking too much, let them accumulate cobwebs until they decide to ask a more reasonable price. However, due to the stated rules of the classifieds, the proper method is to PM. PM your offer, accepted or declined. That simple. Even KK said half the time they respond "OK" to his reasonable market value offers. So really no need to whine about the whiners. What really bothers me the most is that most of the guys that chime in with the rude remarks have no interest in the item anyway. If you are interested, you have a legitimate gripe. If not intersted, no grumble. Forum rules.
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The peanut gallery is very active here. Everybody has an opinion. :wacko:
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The peanut gallery is very active here. Everybody has an opinion. :wacko:
it's called 1a homie :shaka:
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it's called 1a homie :shaka:
Somehow, i think the framers had "civil discourse" in mind, not heckling for the fun of it!
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the exception here is that the opinions of the peanut gallery are against forum rules
and the first amendment doesn't apply in a private forum
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The peanut gallery is very active here. Everybody has an opinion. :wacko:
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let he without sin cast the first stone...... KK you do NOT qualify to make this post since you yourself did the same thing. nuff said.
so should we have OGC, Xring, SEC, WGS all sell at the cost we can get them online? no. its supply and demand......
for my parts i can sit all i want. if i wanna have them collect dust then its my choice? if i wanna give it away its my choice? at the same time you have a choice to pm me for a different price.... worst i or anyone can say is no
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Remember before you type furiously.......... Would you say what you type to that person's face? Lets all be civil here. There is so much more to focus energy on like those dingbats in office. What is the famous W.A.R. song? Why can't we be friends? :shaka:
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everyone has the freedom of speech.... just like our freedom to bare arms....
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my arms are bare right now ;D
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My thought on this is that they deserve public admonition because they got suckered. Now they're hoping they can find another sucker to take the loss for them. If someone wanted to pay $30 a pop for beat-to-hell used USGI mags during Firearmageddon, more power to them, but I'm with KK on being annoyed that now those same people are doing their level best to keep prices overinflated by refusing to take a loss on their investment. There were plenty of us saying "Yo, dawg, don't buy those overpriced mags. Get on Midway's backorder list for P-Mags, or order some E-Landers from Mako Group and pay a reasonable price." That's what I did; I got twelve brand-new standard capacity AR mags for the standard price, right in the middle of Firearmageddon. Now, if I decide to sell some of my overstock, (lol, overstock? I'll never sell any of them, and I'll probably buy more! :D) I don't feel like I need to get 200% of the MSRP in order to break even--and most importantly, I won't be contributing to the extension of artificially inflated prices!
lol. we should start a club called "Never Bought a Pmag for more than 20 dollars".
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Remember before you type furiously.......... Would you say what you type to that person's face? Lets all be civil here. There is so much more to focus energy on like those dingbats in office. What is the famous W.A.R. song? Why can't we be friends? :shaka:
that's silly. In my opinion, the anonymity of the internet is what makes forums fun. no pretenses, more truthful expression, and figuring out how to work with that.
as long as no one gets takes things to seriously, i think a little more openess makes this a better place.
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everyone has the freedom of speech.... just like our freedom to bare arms....
you mean bear arms right? I though everyone had a right to a pair of bear arms after they hunt it down and shoot one for themselves...
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let he without sin cast the first stone...... KK you do NOT qualify to make this post since you yourself did the same thing. nuff said.
so should we have OGC, Xring, SEC, WGS all sell at the cost we can get them online? no. its supply and demand......
for my parts i can sit all i want. if i wanna have them collect dust then its my choice? if i wanna give it away its my choice? at the same time you have a choice to pm me for a different price.... worst i or anyone can say is no
Well that's the thing, we all know the local shops are selling for an increased price and most of us can understand they have to increase it a bit to cover the cost of rent and employees. I think most of us are laughing/pissed at the guys in the classified section selling used and worn guns for 50-100% more then the local shops are selling for new (which have the same guns in stock!)!
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Well that's the thing, we all know the local shops are selling for an increased price and most of us can understand they have to increase it a bit to cover the cost of rent and employees. I think most of us are laughing/pissed at the guys in the classified section selling used and worn guns for 50-100% more then the local shops are selling for new (which have the same guns in stock!)!
right, some of the ads were making Honolulu Firearms look cheap.
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right, some of the ads were making Honolulu Firearms look cheap.
holy shit, that is saying something!
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The market of supply and demand will tell each seller if they can succeed or fail with their price postings. I saw a Glock 17 for sell for the same price that I was asking. not three days ago, and I figured that I would give it a try and see if I could get the same price, especially since it came from the lgs the same day as the posting. And yes I was actually able to get that price for the item, why, because the buyer actually wanted a two tone pistol.
I understand what the OP was trying to get at, but when it comes down to it, it is the individual person that sees the value in the item. I seem to remember a posting back in January that one post actually lambasted local gun stores for raising rates on items, and that some members actually wanted them to disclose what the store's individual costs were for those items. Are we now required to post our actual buying costs and then discount from there forward before we put them up for sale?? Maybe we just should form a dedicated pricing chart that all members must abide by when we try to sell our items. I do not mean to be a smart ass, but this could easily get out of hand.
I do appreciate all the help that each forum members imparts in helping to educate me on this important, and fun, 2a right that we all were born with.
P.
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There's one point I'd like to make. This is NOT GunBroker-Hawaii, it's NOT AMMO-R-US, and it's NOT GREGSLIST_FOR_FIREARMS! This is the 2aHawaii forum: Hawaii's Firearm, Shooting, and Hunting Community.
The Classified Boards are a convenience provided by the forum operators to help community members find things they need or offer things others need. As the rules state, The transaction is between the interested buyer(s) and the seller (or traders). If the main attraction for you here is the classifieds, then maybe you aren't really part of the 2A community? Maybe you just LIKE guns and are looking to score sweet deals on hard-to-find firearms, accessories, and ammo?
Whatever your primary reason to be here, it should jive with the stated objective of the forum. If it doesn't, then gripes are sorely misplaced.
This is a valuable source of information and support for those of us looking to protect our 2nd amendment rights. It can also be a valuable means of locating difficult to find equipment or shooting supplies. Let's not make that feature the primary reason we are here.
It's easy to lose sight of what's important when greed, fear, and frustration are running rampant. I suggest we all look at the forum as a GIFT from the OPS to the community. We should all treat it as such and be grateful for this valuable resource and all the wisdom and experience our members represent.
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Amen, KK. Well said.
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let he without sin cast the first stone...... KK you do NOT qualify to make this post since you yourself did the same thing. nuff said.
What are you talking about?
This post is about people that cry like pussies when someone tells them that they're charging too much for something.
Show me 1 solitary instance where I whined about someone telling me I'm charging too much.
I didn't think so.
So if you are just talking out of your ass, keep your comments to yourself.
Remember before you type furiously.......... Would you say what you type to that person's face?
Absolutely, anyone wants to talk to me face to face, I'm in.
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Take it easy folks. I am sure this can be discussed without shit slinging.
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let he without sin cast the first stone...... KK you do NOT qualify to make this post since you yourself did the same thing. nuff said.
Not exactly but I remember the e-thuggish ruggish drama from the early days of 2A and it still goes on via PM.
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I know it's sort of a weird outlook on the situation, but I see the temporary high prices as a good sign.
Those new gun owners that are trying to sell will have to take a good hard look at any gun control laws when they can't sell their firearms at anything but a loss.
The longer this hike in prices lasts, the more people who just can't sell will decide to keep their guns. If they do sell at an inflated price, it will be to someone not in the know, like a still panicking new gun buyer.
So now the number of gun owners has swelled. Inflated prices are annoying, but good for the cause.
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that's silly. In my opinion, the anonymity of the internet is what makes forums fun. no pretenses, more truthful expression, and figuring out how to work with that.
as long as no one gets takes things to seriously, i think a little more openess makes this a better place.
Xer, well said. but it all hinges on that last sentence in you post. :thumbsup:
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Absolutely, anyone wants to talk to me face to face, I'm in.
Agree with your initial thread post. This was more of a general comment. Have fun and don't take things too seriously, except when you're purchasing something. :rofl:
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I think that the OP is just expressing his feelings, which is his right, and he is doing it in a proper way.
He clearly stated that we should all follow the forum rules, and not to repond in a negative manner.
If you feel offended by the price points, just don't buy it.
The same should be said here, If you don't like what is being said, move on.
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Agree with your initial thread post. This was more of a general comment. Have fun and don't take things too seriously, except when you're purchasing something. :rofl:
The last guy that wanted to meet me face to face from this forum got what he deserved...
A plate lunch and a beer.
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I think that the OP is just expressing his feelings, which is his right, and he is doing it in a proper way.
He clearly stated that we should all follow the forum rules, and not to repond in a negative manner.
If you feel offended by the price points, just don't buy it.
The same should be said here, If you don't like what is being said, move on.
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The last guy that wanted to meet me face to face from this forum got what he deserved...
A plate lunch and a beer.
Deserve's got nothin' to do with it.
-- William Munny, Unforgiven
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The last guy that wanted to meet me face to face from this forum got what he deserved...
A plate lunch and a beer.
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Where is my plate lunch & beer. Lmk I live kunia but can meet anywhere for said 2 items ;)
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Plate lunch and a beer? Count me in...if we just have one beer, we can then go to Koko Head and shoot some!
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We're so politically correct that no one can tell the truth without hurting anyone's feelings.
This is why we as a country allow terrorists to come to America and plan attacks on U.S. soil and everybody is afraid to say "kick all those bastards out of the country"
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well said braddah
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lots of stuff for sale on 2a now....
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lots of stuff for sale on 2a now....
i just want to revisit this topic and say alot of these sales on 2a are newbie posts and well. There needs to be a flag thread or something for the benefit of the forum members. Am i out of line for stating this? Or how about a anonymous thread without saying the obvious but key words that subtly lets us know when we see it??? Huh what about that. Like " hey watch out for all the speed bumps at the top get like 8 of them". ;D
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i just want to revisit this topic and say alot of these sales on 2a are newbie posts and well. There needs to be a flag thread or something for the benefit of the forum members. Am i out of line for stating this? Or how about a anonymous thread without saying the obvious but key words that subtly lets us know when we see it??? Huh what about that. Like " hey watch out for all the speed bumps at the top get like 8 of them". ;D
Out of line for stating this :shaka:
Really up to the buyer to decide if he needs/wants it then by all means BUY IT!!! from a newbie
Don't blame a newbie for we were once one or to say still is one. :stopjack:
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Another forums I go to requires at least 10 posts before being able to post in the classified section. This allows them to get to know the community better and prevents the 1 post wonder looking to make a quick sell.
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Another forums I go to requires at least 10 posts before being able to post in the classified section. This allows them to get to know the community better and prevents the 1 post wonder looking to make a quick sell.
Most forums work this way.
But what usually happens is they post 10 stupid posts just to raise their count.
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Another forums I go to requires at least 10 posts before being able to post in the classified section. This allows them to get to know the community better and prevents the 1 post wonder looking to make a quick sell.
ahh this makes sense so if ten is to easy then 25 should be a good start then.
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ahh this makes sense so if ten is to easy then 25 should be a good start then.
So, 25 stupid, one-word or icon posts is better than 10?
I would suggest a user has to register and wait a certain length of time before being able to start a WTS ad. They can participate in other Classifieds, but they can not start their own for maybe 2 weeks? 30 days? That makes more sense than using the number of posts. ;D
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So, 25 stupid, one-word or icon posts is better than 10?
I would suggest a user has to register and wait a certain length of time before being able to start a WTS ad. They can participate in other Classifieds, but they can not start their own for maybe 2 weeks? 30 days? That makes more sense than using the number of posts. ;D
Maybe they should sign up and say what they would specifically like to post. Then wait two weeks and come back and see if what they are going to post is OK to post. Once they are OK to post they can post, but then they have to come back again to make sure what they posted was what they initially said they were going to post. How does that work? :thumbsup: HPD style!
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Most forums work this way.
But what usually happens is they post 10 stupid posts just to raise their count.
There are many sites that deter BS quota posts by requiring mod approval for them to count. It's a lot of work...
Personally, I just choose to deal with people who've put up some "quality" posts that contribute to the community. It doesn't matter how good a deal is...I'd rather spend my money with people who are going to be around (and actually supports 2A) instead of some "hit and run" seller. :thumbsup:
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I don't see how this really matters. Let's say a "newbie" (which we all were at one point) joins just to try to sell something...who cares? Either buy it or don't buy it. Maybe that one and only post that they post is that something that you have been hoping someone would come on here and sell forever. Generally speaking, most of us put two values on our guns, the first is the actual cost of the gun and the second is the emotional value we place on our stuff. All of the LGS around here purchase items, mark them up and sell them to us. Buying from a private seller is really no different. Based on our preferences and what not, we all think different things are worth different amounts. For example, I wouldn't buy an AK for 50 bucks. I don't like how they feel or how they shoot. It is just my preference. I guess all that I am trying to say is that the one post seller is not really hurting anything...either buy or don't.
Now I think I am off to X-ring to see a man about a AR build (I'm a Soldier, that platform is what I know and comfortable with)! :shaka: :shaka:
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I get the buy or don't buy I guess my biggest issue is the sellers ettiquet and manner in which they come across.
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exactly
and if a one time poster has 12 posts because of "BTT" posts, it's up to the buyer to decide whether or not to buy from that seller
I don't see how this really matters. Let's say a "newbie" (which we all were at one point) joins just to try to sell something...who cares? Either buy it or don't buy it. Maybe that one and only post that they post is that something that you have been hoping someone would come on here and sell forever. Generally speaking, most of us put two values on our guns, the first is the actual cost of the gun and the second is the emotional value we place on our stuff. All of the LGS around here purchase items, mark them up and sell them to us. Buying from a private seller is really no different. Based on our preferences and what not, we all think different things are worth different amounts. For example, I wouldn't buy an AK for 50 bucks. I don't like how they feel or how they shoot. It is just my preference. I guess all that I am trying to say is that the one post seller is not really hurting anything...either buy or don't.
Now I think I am off to X-ring to see a man about a AR build (I'm a Soldier, that platform is what I know and comfortable with)! :shaka: :shaka:
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Supply is slowly catching up with demand as the "rush to buy before it is banned" dies down = prices are coming down. Just look at the availability of PMAGs and pricing close to pre-panic buying. :thumbsup:
Should have some great deals for firearms soon . . . :geekdanc: